I wish to contribute to this list some excerpts from "THE HISTORICAL MAGAZINE" Vol IX, January 1871, issue 1. I made a trip to the LOC in DC to obtain this it was written by my gguncle Alfred Letteer. It provides inspect into daily camp life, starting with the Raiders. ANDERSONVILLE DIARY OF A PRISONER Page l. Thursday June 29th, 1864> Soon after our rations began coming in this afternoon the commander of the Camp issued an order that not another load of rations should enter Camp until the party or orgganization or Raiders were fereted out and placed in his hands. About a dozen guards entered the Stockade and with the assistance of Some informers began picking up some of the leaders, which caused an imense excitement. They got somewhere near 25 of the most desperate and will keep them until tomorrow whin some action will be taken with them either by the Confederate Military authorities or by our own civil laws as control our camp. Just at evening two or three of them were turned into Camp sigly to let the men do with (them) as they thought fit. They were all three beat and pounded so badly that they cannot get over it. To be continued Dave Letteer, Charlotte NC

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Hi, I am new to the list. I have been looking for a book regarding Andersonville Prison. The title is: Personal Narratives/Biographies: H. Clavreul, Diary of...with the Names of Dying Federal Soldiers to Whom he ministered at Andersonville, GA, July and August 1864. n.p. CT Assoc of Ex POW, 1910. E612A5C55. I would be grateful for any help. Thank you, -- jean schmidt nandj@sttl.uswest.net

Some years ago I corresponded with a party who stated the Subject was not listed among the prisoners. Evidence in his widow's and orphans' Pension file: Widow's application No. 106,268 of 8 May 1865 states she, Mrs. Sarah Amos, then Sarah Price, married Perry G. Amos 19 January 1860 at her father's home in Wetzel County, WV (by Rev. James Edgel). She was widow of Perry G. Amos who died at Mullin, Georgeia, on or about 15 Nov. 1864 by reason of Diareha and from Confinement in a rebel prison. Mrs. Amos stated that their two children, residing with her in Wetzel County near Beaty's Mills in Marion Co., were Francis Marion Amos, born 25 October 1860, and Mary Jane Amos, born 14 June 1863. Her application for increase of 7 May 1867 gave the same residence, names, and dates. Mrs. Amos submitted an affidavit dated 1 July 1865 from Eli B. Dotson, Corporal, G Company, 14th West Virginia Infantry, which stated that he knew Perry Amos at the Millen, Georgia prison, and saw his body. A muster roll of Capt. Henry Ice's Company, 14th WVI for 17 June 1865 states that Perry Amos was captured at Cloyd's Mountain, May 9, 1864, and that he died in Rebel Prison Andersonville, Ga Sept. 16, 1864. The application of the children's Guardian, Samuel Price, then aged 57, and of Grant Twp., Wetzel County, for Orphans' pension, dated 22 Aug. 1871, states that the father of the children died of dysentery at Andersonville, and that their mother died on May 20, 1871. Other affidavits and documents in the file support the statements regarding the marriage, parentage and births of the children. Would be glad to hear from descendants interested in further documentation, ancestry of Perry G. Amos and Sarah (Price), his widow, and other members of H Company, 14th WVI. J. A. Longley jalongley@cwix.com P. O. Box 5334, Dearborn MI 48128-5334

Hello List, I just subscirbed this evening and would like to know if anyone among us knows how to find this book? I even called the Andersonville museum library and they never heard of it. I would really like to get ahold of it. PERSONAL NARRATIVES/BIOGRAPHIES Clavreul, H. Diary of...with the Names of Dying Federal Soldiers to Whom he Ministered at Andersonville, Ga., July and August 1864. n.p.: CT Assoc of Ex- POW, 1910. E612A5C55. Thanks in advance, John C Oester

Thank you Beverly. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

For those of you who have access to the History Channel, Tuesday evening at 8 pm Eastern Standard Time, there will be a one hour program on the sinking of the Sultana, the boat that blew up carrying many Andersonville ex-prisoners home after the war.

Darn fingers -- typing before thinking. :>) My only excuse is that I was thinking of Tom Lincoln's remarrying another Kentucky woman after Nancy Hanks Lincoln died of the milk sickness in Indiana. Bob Bob Huddleston Serving Denver's Real Estate Needs Since 1978 Metro Brokers Adco Associates Office: (303) 457-9300 Toll Free: (888) 451-6376 E-Mail: adco@rmi.net <http://www.realtorads.com/denver/bobhuddleston> Hi Bob, Couldn't help but see "wives" in relation to Tom Lincoln. Did he have more than one? Was he Morman? ANDERSONVILLE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Judy, > > You are correct, I suspect (how's that for being wishy-washy!). > > The most famous immigrants from slave states to free states would have been > Tom Lincoln, moving his family of wives, daughter and a young son named > Abraham, from Kentucky to Indiana. Of course, under the Northwest Ordnance > of 1787, slavery was forbidden in the area North of the Ohio. > > Bob > > Bob Huddleston Serving Denver's Real Estate Needs Since 1978 > Metro Brokers Adco Associates Office: (303) 457-9300 > Toll Free: (888) 451-6376 E-Mail: adco@rmi.net > <http://www.realtorads.com/denver/bobhuddleston> >

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Hi Bob, Couldn't help but see "wives" in relation to Tom Lincoln. Did he have more than one? Was he Morman? ANDERSONVILLE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Judy, > > You are correct, I suspect (how's that for being wishy-washy!). > > The most famous immigrants from slave states to free states would have been > Tom Lincoln, moving his family of wives, daughter and a young son named > Abraham, from Kentucky to Indiana. Of course, under the Northwest Ordnance > of 1787, slavery was forbidden in the area North of the Ohio. > > Bob > > Bob Huddleston Serving Denver's Real Estate Needs Since 1978 > Metro Brokers Adco Associates Office: (303) 457-9300 > Toll Free: (888) 451-6376 E-Mail: adco@rmi.net > <http://www.realtorads.com/denver/bobhuddleston> >

Dick Hudson, I very much enjoyed your recent email about forebearers involvement in the underground railroad and your gggrandfather's involvement with Elijah Lovejoy. I was born in Alton IL . You might be interested in the Alton Webpage at www.altonweb.com I am pleased to see that Alton is now more involved in the restoration of it's historical sites and homes as well as it's rich history. You will find some interesting articles on their webpage about Elijah Lovejoy and Alton's involvement in the Civil War as well as a recent article about the preservation of local underground railroad sites. A few years ago they had a reinactment of the Lincoln-Douglas Debate which occurred in Alton and it was aired on Public Television along with other reinactments of those debates which occurred throughout Illionois. They used local actors in each area's debate and it was most interesting. I highly recommend the Alton Webpage. There was a time when Alton did not value it's rich history and I am proud to see it change. There is also an article on their webpage about the Alton Prison where confederate soldiers were confined. I can recall as a youngster seeing that stack of old blocks at the edge of a parking lot in downtown Alton which had a small sign indicating it was the remains of the prison, but no real value on it's historical significance at the time. It was just a pile of old blocks. There is also a monument in the North Alton area which I stumbled across as a kid riding my bicycle down a side street one day. Inscribed in it's sides are the names of the confederate soldiers who died at the prison. Again, it was of little value and I doubt if most people even knew it was there. Now it is clearly marked. Again, I recommend the interesting webpage for Alton with many wonderful articles about it's history in the Civil War at www.Altonweb.com It also happens to be the home of Robert Wadlow, the tallest man, and there is an article about him as well. As a teenager, I once sat in a recliner chair that had been specially built for him. My feet didn't even reach the end of the seat. P.S. I'm a McGregor on my mother's side, but having great difficulty tracing that line back. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

Curtis, I am a Macdonald of Sleat as you are a Macdonald, either of Ardnamurchan or of Glencoe. My Welsh forebears were most active in the underground railroad and my GGGrandfather was Elijah Lovejoy's chief lieutenant. He was with Lovejoy at Alton, IL when Lovejoy was murdered as they were defending their Freedom Press. I am aware that some Scots were much against slavery but others were equally delighted with it. The man that wrote Amazing Grace penned the hymn on the deck of the very slave ship on which he was captain. He subsequently repented this dreadful occupation and became a minister opposing slavery. This was not always the case. I am descendent of a patriot McLean who is buried in North Carolina. My branch of the family went north and became both abolitionists and Union officers and soldiers. Others remained in the south and became CSA officers and men. Nothing is ever very simple. I am currently living in middle Tennessee and a member of the Highland Rim Scottish Society as well as a Convenor for Clan Donald of Tennessee. Most of my compatriots in both organizations are descendent of Confederate soldiers. I genuinely wish that I could reach out my mind to some grand Scottish or Welsh (since I am both) sense of fairness and decency but, alas, they were people. I must say, I have never understood the enormous number of Scots, that had just been beaten into the ground by the English at Culloden in 1745, choosing to be Loyalists in the Revolutionary War. I admit that some didn't, including my forebear but huge numbers were Tories. I certainly don't want to step on romantic illusions but history simply doesn't bear out your saying, "Scots were not in favor of people living in bondage." Perhaps your Rankin forebears despised slavery, and I applaud them, but they would be an exception rather than the rule. Warm regards, Dick Hudson

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Judy, You are correct, I suspect (how's that for being wishy-washy!). The most famous immigrants from slave states to free states would have been Tom Lincoln, moving his family of wives, daughter and a young son named Abraham, from Kentucky to Indiana. Of course, under the Northwest Ordnance of 1787, slavery was forbidden in the area North of the Ohio. Bob Bob Huddleston Serving Denver's Real Estate Needs Since 1978 Metro Brokers Adco Associates Office: (303) 457-9300 Toll Free: (888) 451-6376 E-Mail: adco@rmi.net <http://www.realtorads.com/denver/bobhuddleston> To Dick Hudson or Tom Ledoux, I was wondering if either of you could help me with some information. Dick mentioned in his email that the " anti-secessionists from elsewhere in the state migrated west or north". My ancestors left Virginia for Ohio abt. 1858 and I have long wondered if they left because of the growing differences with the north or was there something else that drew them to Ohio at that time---like land offers, etc. They joined the Union side from Ohio, so it couldn't have been that they wanted to avoid the fighting---and they were Irish, so fighting was not something they ran from. Do you have any ideas on this? Was there talk of war as early as 1858 in Virginia? Did people head north at that time because of that? Thanks for you help. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com >

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Hi Judy, Ohio was assuredly not frontier as late as 1858, hence I have doubts about 'land offers' occurring there. Personal sentiments regarding secession might have motivated one to leave secessionist states. As for talk of war, it was in the wind almost immediately after the Revolutionary War. A great deal of it was kindled in the formulation of the Constitution and subsequent congressional quarrels over acquisition of new territory as free states. Congressional debates, even at the very beginnings of the 1800's broke out in fisticuffs right in the halls of congress, and resulted in duels fought elsewhere around DC. There were Irish brigades in the Civil War, but I seem to recall that they were formed on both sides. In the Carolinas the Scots couldn't put aside their ancient "right" to prey on one another as long as no one else was preying on them (I am a descendent of Carolina Scots, so I think I can safely tell this). I would think that something like family ties ought to be explored regarding your ancestors' migration. Certainly, talk of war was seething and war was viewed as unavoidable by 1858. Some may have felt that the both the lack of population and industry would cause the South to lose such a conflict. They wouldn't have realized that a lack of generals would cause the North to lose three times as many men in the ensuing war. I've tried very hard to find the concomitant history which attends my own family's genealogy. It's very difficult to trace but I feel quite necessary. How else does one tell 'The Story'? I'm inclined to look for 'small' reasons nearer to the ground, rather than to assume that my ancestors were motivated to migrate because of things happening on a grander national scale. At least I would look closer within my family, e. g., a brother who had migrated earlier and urges his younger sibling to follow. In your case, Ohio was developing its industrial nature to a great degree in 1858. A poor Virginia farm boy might have found factory work in Ohio. As much as the North belonged to industrial land barons, the South belonged to plantation owners. I suppose I would first look at economic factors for the move. Warm regards, Dick Hudson

To Dick Hudson or Tom Ledoux, I was wondering if either of you could help me with some information. Dick mentioned in his email that the " anti-secessionists from elsewhere in the state migrated west or north". My ancestors left Virginia for Ohio abt. 1858 and I have long wondered if they left because of the growing differences with the north or was there something else that drew them to Ohio at that time---like land offers, etc. They joined the Union side from Ohio, so it couldn't have been that they wanted to avoid the fighting---and they were Irish, so fighting was not something they ran from. Do you have any ideas on this? Was there talk of war as early as 1858 in Virginia? Did people head north at that time because of that? Thanks for you help. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com >

I missed the beginning of this discussion, but I assumed VRC was Veteran Reserve Corps (invalid Union soldiers with disabilities precluding their continuation in combat units, but not too ill to do paperwork, serve as prison guards, etc.). The 22nd Regiment Veteran Reserve Corps served as follows: Organized at Washington, D.C., January 12, 1864, by consolidation of the 74th, 91st, 122nd, 126th, 130th, 134th, 175th, 183rd, 184th and 192nd Companies, 1st Battalion. Mustered out by detachments July 1 to November 19, 1865. (Source: http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unvetres1.htm, Dyer, volume 3). Tom Ledoux webmaster Vermont in the Civil War http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/1861/vt-cw.htm -----Original Message----- From: Richard P. Hudson <dick@therapist.net> To: ANDERSONVILLE-L@rootsweb.com <ANDERSONVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:39 PM Subject: Re: 22nd VRC >I'm going out on the proverbial limb and say that I believe this is >probably a Virginia unit and, as such should be CSA. I base the latter >on the fact that anti-secessionist Virginians occurring with any great >degree of concentration would have come from the western part of the >state, hence, West Virginia. Anti-secessionists from elsewhere in the >state migrated west or north. > >Warm regards, > >Dick Hudson > >

I'm going out on the proverbial limb and say that I believe this is probably a Virginia unit and, as such should be CSA. I base the latter on the fact that anti-secessionist Virginians occurring with any great degree of concentration would have come from the western part of the state, hence, West Virginia. Anti-secessionists from elsewhere in the state migrated west or north. Warm regards, Dick Hudson

Is this a CSA unit. My ancestor on my mother side was a Hugh McLAIN Corpal served with this unit. Their was no date given ! Ross A MCCLAIN http://members.tripod.com/~Lem_Lem/flag_usa.gif