lOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON FAMILY NAME OF FLUEHR. THANKS

Hey Greg------thanks for all the good websites. Wow, I can't wait to explore all those interesting sites and learn more about the Sultana disaster. Thanks again. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A8F36EA438FDC2CE5095F264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI & for Heather --------------A8F36EA438FDC2CE5095F264 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <SULTANA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from deimos.flash.net (deimos.flash.net [209.30.0.43]) by centurion.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18210; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:18:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by deimos.flash.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05636; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:17:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17029; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:17:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:17:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:16:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <l0313035cb29417ca83db@[208.142.248.59]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Old-To: SULTANA-L@rootsweb.com From: Greg Reeves <greg@rapidnet.com> Subject: Top Sultana web-sites! Resent-Message-ID: <"8jXMmC.A.fJE.4Twb2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: SULTANA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: SULTANA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <SULTANA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/125 X-Loop: SULTANA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SULTANA-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi all! Since we've recently had several new, curious subscribers to SULTANA-L-----and I'm now being contacted a few times every week by folks wanting to learn more about the 1865 Sultana disaster-----I decided that I'd save us *all* some time, and compile and upload onto our SULTANA-L mailing list a collection of URL's to what appears to me to be the *best,* most relevant webpages currently available to anyone who's interested... [Please note: I've tried herein to assemble the most relevant Sultana websites I can find and------ while I've purposefully tried to list sites detailing the experiences of "Sultana individuals" near the top -----the actual listing of websites should not be misconstrued as a preference for, or a bias against, any given site] At any rate, here are the URL's: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- The Sultana Association http://sultana.org/ Death on the Dark River http://bak-12.rootsweb.com/~genepool/sultana.htm The Sinking of the Steamer... http://www.ionet.net/~cousin/dale4.html Sgt. Robert Talkington http://www.ionet.net/~cousin/dale38.html Cp. Emanuel Hush Yiesley http://www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/yeiseman.htm Maj. James W. Carlin http://www.klahanie.com/carlin.htm Passenger Anna Annis http://members.aol.com/ahutchnsn/index/aa.html Lt. Thomas B. Reeves http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom/ 51st Ohio Infantry http://user.aol.com/Shortyhack/ohio51.html 115th Ohio Infantry http://www.infinet.com/~lstevens/a/cw115.html ---------------------------------------------------- I can't and won't "vouch" for the following sites, but they too each address the 1865 Sultana in some manner or another: Center for Archive Collect... http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/ms0330.html Various.doc http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/RefBibs/ships/various.htm USA History: At least 1547... http://www.usahistory.com/trivia/historical/he02d.htm sol1 http://religionworld.org/dd/archiv/1989.htm Save the Franklin Battlefield... http://www.franklin-stfb.org/ebsstfb.htm SA Shipping Lists 1847-1886 http://www.users.on.net/proformat/ships47.html Stories, Listed by Author http://www.sff.net/locus/s373.html Artifacts Three http://www.vic.com/tnchron/Artifact/art3.htm April 27 http://shoga.wwa.com/~mjm/almanac2/april/0427.html Mississippi River History http://www.gemsites.com/mississippimud/history.html Gabriel Wade, 1831-... http://www.genforum.com/wade/messages/176.html end65 http://ac.acusd.edu/History/classes/civilwar/end65.html Genealogy Books & Access... http://www.peg.apc.org/~frasertravel/hervey/family/ 440 Internationa...April 27 http://www.440.com/twtd/archives/apr27.html SURVIVORS http://members.aol.com/samcasey/ancestors/survivors.html JTR's Colorful Family History http://bl-12.rootsweb.com/~genepool/ 46 USC CHAPTER 33... http://fatty.law.cornell.edu/uscode/46/ch33.html In Search of...Sultana Video http://amrvideo.com/new/SOE1/SOE-40378.htm The Sultana http://www.disastercity.com/sultana/ Untitled http://www.greatriver.com/sultanapx.htm The Sultana Disaster http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5278/cwsultana1865.html SABOTAGE & SUBVERSION... http://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/arch/academic/history/marshall/military/mil_hist_inst/ s/S.asc 36% MICHIGAN CW MONUMENTS http://suvcw.org/mi/mcwm2.html Steamboats on the Mississippi http://www.port-aransas.k12.tx.us/HS/HIST/bin/andrist.html Sultana-Tennessee Connection http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/sultana.html William Boston Diary http://www.clements.umich.edu/Webguides/Schoff/B/Boston.html CIVIL WAR REFLECTIONS - PART TWO http://www.sirius.com/~jcartan/history/harvey2.html ********************************************************************* Well. Gotta go. 'Hope this will be a significant help to our newer subscribers and-----for the rest of us; well: check out some of these URL's! Take care & enjoy! Greg Reeves SULTANA-L and ANDERSONVILLE-L Listowner GGG Nephew of Lt. Tom REEVES: http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom greg@rapidnet.com --------------A8F36EA438FDC2CE5095F264--

I am researching my ggrandfather, Anfin ERSLAND. He was from Story county, Iowa and served in an unknown unit. He was captured and according to my father, who heard his stories as a young boy, was sent to Andersonville. He had his leg amputated there and survived to return to Iowa after the war. My father's most vivid memory of what his grandfather told him was that he had survived in large part because he had befriended a Confederate guard. They apparently shared a passion for chess and also were both Masons. Apparently this guard would give my ggrandfather extra food now and again, that he would share later with his mates. If anyone could point me in the right direction to find out more information on my ggrandfather, I would appreciate it. Thank you John Tendall

Heather, I would recommend that you read the book, "John Ransom's Andersonville Diary", by John L. Ransom, published by Berkley Books, New York. I found my copy at the Barnes & Noble Bookstore. It's a very detailed account of life in Andersonville Prison written by someone who was there and lived it. It's a small book and can be read quickly. It's in paperback and you should be able to find it in the Civil War section of the bookstore----or probably at most any library. It's a very famous book. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

Hi, Heather, Have you tried doing searches online for Andersonville material? I know I've stumbled onto some fascinating sites with a wealth of information that way. Also, between your school library and town library, you should be able to come up with numerous magazine/journal articles by searching the Readers Guide to Periodicals. Both libraries should have it. Good luck! Karen

Hi Heather - Yes, there are many sites on the web where you will find resource material. Here are two //www.rootsweb.com/~ILCIVILW //carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi The last is a US Army project to collect and preserve Civil War information. The first is an Illinois state page devoted to Ill. citizens who served in the Civil War. More particularly, on the Ill site, check out the picture, bio etc of my Great Grandfather, Davidson McCampbell. He was a prisoner in Andrsonville, died there in July 1864 and is buried there. The page also contains some excerpts from a letter he wrote to his sister, kind of interesting, from an individual's perspective. Also you can obtain a lot of material from the Visitor's Center at the site. Don't know what you time line is, but if you have time - that's a valuable resource. Hey - you guys out there with the CD ROM - You have lot's of material Heather could use, fill her in. Thanks ( BTW I have a copy of your CD - Great ! ) The rest of you folks out there - let's support Heather ! It's GREAT to see our young people engaged in positive endeavors. Go for it Heather ! Bob K in Phoenix

Dear List members, I am a high school student doing a report in Social Studies on Andersonville prison. I have had difficulty finding source material in my high school and town library. I have requested interlibrary loan on some books on the subject, but I am afraid they will not come in time for my report. My first draft is due in 10 days. Is there anyone monitoring this list who can send me articles or book excerpts on this subject? They could be on any aspect of the prison or personnel imprisoned there. I would only ask if you have an article(s) to send, that you let me know the source of the material, as all sources must be documented. Thank you for your consideration. Heather

I thought this information might be useful to some people on the Andersonville site. I got it from the Veterans Administration webpage. For more information, go to: http://www.cem.va.gov/hm.htm TOMBSTONES AND MARKERS There are specific styles of upright headstones and flat markers to mark the graves of Union and Confederate Civil War and Spanish-American War dead. Proof of military service prior to World War I requires detailed documentation, such as muster rolls, extracts from State files, pension documents or land warrants, to be considered for a Government-provided headstone or marker. Memorial markers are not usually provided for Civil War soldiers. The mere fact that the whereabouts of the grave is not known is not reason enough for issuing a government headstone or marker. The circumstances surrounding the soldiers’ death should be such that it is assumed the remains were unrecoverable or unidentifiable due to burning, drowning or burial in a mass grave. If, however, there is documentation the soldier was buried in a mass grave, but the actual location of the body is unknown, VA will provide a memorial marker for placement in a national, state veteran or private cemetery. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

Hi Everyone! 'Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who's been visiting my "Andersonville Books" and "Sultana Books" pages lately at URL's: http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom/Books.html and http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom/SultanaBooks.html respectively! Judging from logged activity on those pages, many of you this holiday season not *only* are visiting, but are ordering books too from there. Those of you ordering from my sites are enjoying up to 30% savings off the titles offered, fast, secure, online-ordering, and ultra-fast deliveries! Obviously, I'm thankful for these sales-----be assured, my commissioned Amazon.com Associate proceeds will be used wisely to further commerate those at Andersonville Prison ----but it's also apparent that many of you are ordering one, or more, of the current books on Andersonville Prison because they make such nice Christmas gifts for someone you love who similarly wants to learn more about history and your family. I couldn't agree more; both books make for wonderful, and enduring, Christmas present Again, thanks for support, now and always! Greg Reeves ANDERSONVILLE-L and SULTANA-L Listowner GGG Nephew of Lt. Tom REEVES: http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom greg@rapidnet.com

Yeaaaaa---Jane. You go girl! I'll go into battle with you anytime. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

I know perfectly well where the delete button is on my computer; however, spam is an internet-wide problem and there are defenses in place to handle it. I don't think it's cowardly to stand up for a community free of spam. I agree that the list-owner volunteers are to be commended. We all benefit from their efforts and I certainly appreciate their willingness to put up with us. Karen Denis Adams writes: Gosh, if a person can't use delete then they have no business on line to begin with.

I can't believe that you guys are all laying down your arms and surrendering just because of one sniper firing from the cover of the bushes! Your ancestor and mine would be ashamed of you for giving up the battle so easily! Left up to all of you, the Civil War would have been over in one day! Yes, I am calling you a coward! Now, get up out of those trenches and get into the battle. If you are not willing to, then I'll just go by myself and blow that sniper to kingdom come by myself! But, know before I go that I am ashamed of each and every one of you for laying down your arms without so much as a skirmish. When I meet my ancestor someday, I want to meet him gladly knowing that I fought a brave battle and didn't turn tail and run like a scared rabbit! I'm so disappointed in all of you. I just recently received my CD on Andersonville and I was so looking forward to being able to help look up some of the names that were being requested as lookups but if you all disappear there will be no one left for me to help. Guess no one is interested in winning purple hearts nowdays! Jane Ashley Benson jbenson@airnet.net

Judy I signed on to Andersonville just to 'see what I could see". I have never posted anything on this list. However, my husband's great-great grandfather, Robert Webb of TN died in Andersonville in 1864. So, I have mostly 'watched' as others posted their info. ALL of it being very interesting. I also am 58, or will be in a few days. AND, I do enjoy very much, 'traveling' everywhere and anywhere on the 'net'. It must have been an marvelous sight to witness the space shuttle 'blasting off to new things'! DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU WERE WHEN MAN FIRST WALKED ON THE MOON? I DO! I was at home here in Tennessee with some elderly neighbors watching with us. They are gone now. But how amazing it was to them. And how amazing things are to me now. Please excuse my ramblings, but I had to get my 2 cents in! Thanks Julie

I totally agree with Judy and the other individual who posted yesterday ion regards to this spam attach. Gosh, if a person can't use delete then they have no business on line to begin with. And while I'm at it, I want to give a big THANK-YOU to the volunteers who run these list. In my book they have NOTHING to apologize for. Thank you all! Denis Adams 2665 Favor Rd. Apt 2-E5 Marietta, GA. 30060 www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/6962 dadams@atlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Judy Wick <JWick@compuserve.com> To: ANDERSONVILLE-L@rootsweb.com <ANDERSONVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 5:24 PM Subject: Let Us Remember >I am absolutely amazed at the anger directed at the Andersonville site >because of the recent spamming. The spamming has occurred on some other >rootsweb sites too, not just this site. It's the work of those hackers >who have no respect for our privacy. So be it. But I was surprised that >it would upset anyone on this website. > >I assume most of you are descendants of those brave souls who endured >months of hell at Andersonville. My great-grandfather endured nine >months there and because of that I am here today. He would turn over in >his grave if I let a mere skirmish with a spammer get me down. Come on >folks! It's just WORDS ! And I can delete it with no pain. I'll be >darned if I'm going to let them chase me out of any website. The >problem is being handled by rootsweb, I can hang in there. > >Judy Clark-Wick >JWick@compuserve.com > >

Thank you Christina, I agree with your view of the future --- the New Frontier. I think the Internet is a marvelous way to explore without ever leaving your home. What an exciting age we live in. I live in Florida and I was able to watch the space shuttle streak through the night sky just a few days ago carrying a piece of the new International Space Station. One day, we'll be able to look at the sky and actually see it with the naked eye. Perhaps the Internet will one day connect us with those who live permanently on the space station or who knows---the Moon or Mars. Already we have begun a new venture that will require structure, rules, cooperation. I think the day will come when teachers will teach via the Internet to children at home or perhaps on the space station. Sure would solve our problems with rundown schools, busing, too many children in classrooms, a need for more teachers. Children can work at their own pace. In a way, it's already being done with home schooling. With a camera on your computer, a modem, a microphone, live voice communication will draw us even closer in the future. As you said, it's about an exchange of information between people who have never met. We learn, we share, we grow, it's what life is all about. You go with the flow and see where it takes you. Makes life a lot more exciting than staying stuck in the NOW. I'm 58 and if I can still flow along, all "you youngins" should be able to do it! Thanks again for the comments. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

Thank you, Judy. Especially today, December 7, 1998. Here's a thought for all of us today. "The beginning of the end of War lies in Remembrance." - Herman Wouk My Remembrance is Davidson McCampbell, Andersonville, Section J, Grave 3100. Robert Kroon

Dear Judy, I second your missive regarding spam. It strikes me that the Internet IS A FRONTIER and we are all pioneers. As with any new human endeavor, we are in the process of coming to terms with our environment, setting limits, creating rules of conduct, forming societies, entering into contracts, implied or otherwise, and so on, just like our forebears. The uniqueness of the net is that most of us don't actually know each other and will probably never meet, so our social contacts and contracts will center around the exchange of information. There are going to be skirmishes along the way, and through these, we LEARN! We start with what appears to be chaos, and impose order on it. As a teacher, I find it fascinating to watch this evolution of a new social structure. Christina Bradley San Rafael, CA Searching for ANSTINE, BRADLEY, CARLSON, CRAIG, DAILEY, GUSTAFSON, HARTMAN, HAYDEN, HOLMES, PEARSON, RYDELL, SCHAEFFER, SILVER, SIMS

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I am absolutely amazed at the anger directed at the Andersonville site because of the recent spamming. The spamming has occurred on some other rootsweb sites too, not just this site. It's the work of those hackers who have no respect for our privacy. So be it. But I was surprised that it would upset anyone on this website. I assume most of you are descendants of those brave souls who endured months of hell at Andersonville. My great-grandfather endured nine months there and because of that I am here today. He would turn over in his grave if I let a mere skirmish with a spammer get me down. Come on folks! It's just WORDS ! And I can delete it with no pain. I'll be darned if I'm going to let them chase me out of any website. The problem is being handled by rootsweb, I can hang in there. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com