This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Wl.2ADIB/9478 Message Board Post: The migrant ship Constitution arrived in Sydney Australia on 27 May 1855 from London under Capt George Farmer Trader. The surgeon superintendent was Dr Alexander Cumming. David ANDERSON was British aged 22 and was 2nd Mate. There were many deaths on the voyage & later in quarantine. The ship was not cleared from quarantine until mid July. A monument was erected at the North Head Quarantine Station to commemorate the voyage & those who died. A reunion of surviving passengers was held in 1905 at the memorial site. The monument survives, see http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an23816980 . The 150th anniversary of the voyage is to be celebrated on 17 July 2005 at the North Head Quarantine Station, Manly NSW. The celebration is to be opened by the Governor of NSW & a book about the voyage will be launched. Contact Rob Wills, 30 Samarinda Way, Point Lookout QLD 4183 Australia. Phone 07-3409 8168, e-mail rob.syd.wills@bigpond.com for info. See these sites for the crew & passenger lists, h! ttp://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1855/07/042con.htm & http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ (assisted immigrants to Sydney & Newcastle 1844-1859). A number of passengers said they had relatives in NSW, Vic & SA & may have gone to these colonies.

Cumming and Anderson sound like Scottish names. Scots and Irish seaman used to have to sign themselves as British, while English seaman could sign themselves as English. As a former Merchant Seaman I used to witness many rows and near riots on this, especially as we had to have shore passes for the US and I found the US immigration cops more sympathetic to the Celts demands not to be classed as "British" (particularly in one incident in Galveston, Texas). Many Scots and Irish immigrants had to sail through English ports. Some Scots through Irish ports and some Irish through Scottish ports, which may add to confusion. Like today England liked to maintain a monopoly on passage form their seas and airports, forcing Scots to travel that way, as some will experience when trying to fly to Scotland and having to land at London airports. Donald Anderson Glasgow Scotland From: <ianberick@picknowl.com.au> To: <ANDERSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:27 AM Subject: [ANDERSON-L] David ANDERSON - 2nd Mate on ship Constitution to Sydney 1855 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Wl.2ADIB/9478 > > Message Board Post: > > The migrant ship Constitution arrived in Sydney Australia on 27 May 1855 > from London under Capt George Farmer Trader. The surgeon superintendent > was Dr Alexander Cumming. David ANDERSON was British aged 22 and was 2nd > Mate. There were many deaths on the voyage & later in quarantine. The > ship was not cleared from quarantine until mid July. A monument was > erected at the North Head Quarantine Station to commemorate the voyage & > those who died. A reunion of surviving passengers was held in 1905 at the > memorial site. The monument survives, see > http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an23816980 . The 150th anniversary of the voyage > is to be celebrated on 17 July 2005 at the North Head Quarantine Station, > Manly NSW. The celebration is to be opened by the Governor of NSW & a book > about the voyage will be launched. Contact Rob Wills, 30 Samarinda Way, > Point Lookout QLD 4183 Australia. Phone 07-3409 8168, e-mail > rob.syd.wills@bigpond.com for info. See these sites for the crew & > passenger lists, h! > ttp://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1855/07/042con.htm & > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ (assisted immigrants to Sydney & Newcastle > 1844-1859). A number of passengers said they had relatives in NSW, Vic & > SA & may have gone to these colonies.

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald anderson" <donald.scotrepublic@ntlworld.com> To: <ANDERSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [ANDERSON-L] David ANDERSON - 2nd Mate on ship Constitution to Sydney 1855 > Cumming and Anderson sound like Scottish names. Scots and Irish seaman > used to have to sign themselves as British, while English seaman could > sign themselves as English. As a former Merchant Seaman I used to witness > many rows and near riots on this, especially as we had to have shore > passes for the US and I found the US immigration cops more sympathetic to > the Celts demands not to be classed as "British" (particularly in one > incident in Galveston, Texas). > > Many Scots and Irish immigrants had to sail through English ports. Some > Scots through Irish ports and some Irish through Scottish ports, which may > add to confusion. Like today England liked to maintain a monopoly on > passage form their seas and airports, forcing Scots to travel that way, as > some will experience when trying to fly to Scotland and having to land at > London airports. > Donald Anderson > Glasgow > Scotland > > > From: <ianberick@picknowl.com.au> > To: <ANDERSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:27 AM > Subject: [ANDERSON-L] David ANDERSON - 2nd Mate on ship Constitution to > Sydney 1855 > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Wl.2ADIB/9478 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> The migrant ship Constitution arrived in Sydney Australia on 27 May 1855 >> from London under Capt George Farmer Trader. The surgeon superintendent >> was Dr Alexander Cumming. David ANDERSON was British aged 22 and was 2nd >> Mate. There were many deaths on the voyage & later in quarantine. The >> ship was not cleared from quarantine until mid July. A monument was >> erected at the North Head Quarantine Station to commemorate the voyage & >> those who died. A reunion of surviving passengers was held in 1905 at the >> memorial site. The monument survives, see >> http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an23816980 . The 150th anniversary of the >> voyage is to be celebrated on 17 July 2005 at the North Head Quarantine >> Station, Manly NSW. The celebration is to be opened by the Governor of >> NSW & a book about the voyage will be launched. Contact Rob Wills, 30 >> Samarinda Way, Point Lookout QLD 4183 Australia. Phone 07-3409 8168, >> e-mail rob.syd.wills@bigpond.com for info. See these sites for the crew & >> passenger lists, h! >> ttp://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1855/07/042con.htm & >> http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ (assisted immigrants to Sydney & Newcastle >> 1844-1859). A number of passengers said they had relatives in NSW, Vic & >> SA & may have gone to these colonies. > > > ==== ANDERSON Mailing List ==== > Try this link to <a > href="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~anderson/virginia.html">Colonial > Virginia Anderson Families</a> > >