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    1. [AOH] ADMIN: change in "from" address
    2. Lynne via
    3. Hello all A few months ago a number of Internet Service Providers changed the way they process incoming email and rejected any messages coming from mailing lists with the subscribers's email address in the "From" field. The change was made by the ISPs in order to reduce spam by those faking the "From" field. Unfortunately, this change caused a number of subscribers to be unsubscribed from RootsWeb lists since their ISPs were rejecting list mail. To ensure RootsWeb mail gets delivered to all subscribers, there's been a change in the way the "From" field displays in RootsWeb messages. The change means that when you send mail to the list, the "From" field will display the name you've set up in your own email program followed by "via" and then the list's email address. This change may also affect how you reply to the list. To avoid problems, when replying to list messages be sure to select "Reply All" and then double-check that the list's address appears in the "To" field. My apologies for informing you after the fact, but list administrators were not notified in advance of this change so we were unable give subscribers a heads-up. Best wishes, Lynne

    07/24/2014 04:04:42
    1. [AOH] ADMIN - Recent RootsWeb Outage
    2. Lynne
    3. Hello everyone We're baaaaaaaack! As you may have noticed, messages have started flowing on RootsWeb mailing lists following the distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack on Ancestry. The Help Desk personnel have not posted a status message on the Help page (http://rootsweb.custhelp.com/) nor has staff let administrators know what's going on with the mailing lists, so we don't know what has happened with messages that were sent to the lists but not delivered over the last week and a half. Am keeping my fingers crossed that messages that went astray during the outage will eventually be distributed. Until we know that everything is copasetic, it would be wise to keep copies of messages you send to the lists in your email Sent folder and double-check that the messages actually reached the list by checking that you received list copies or that there's copies in the list's archives. Thanks for your patience. Happy researching! Lynne list admin.

    06/27/2014 03:05:45
    1. AOH historical images
    2. Lynne
    3. >From Wellcome Images (http://wellcomeimages.org/): "... As of today, all historical images that are out of copyright and held by Wellcome Images are being made freely available under the Creative Commons Attribution (CC BY) licence. This means that they can be used and manipulated freely, for commercial or personal purposes, so long as the original source is acknowledged. High-resolution files from the historical collections can now be downloaded directly from the Wellcome Images website." Perhaps you'll find something relative (pun intended) to your ancestors or the place(s) they lived. Happy searching! Lynne

    01/25/2014 03:45:25
    1. AOH Admin: Season's greetings
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear Listers, A card awaits you at <http://preview.tinyurl.com/n3brp6l> To all of you who celebrate the holiday, I wish you a very happy Christmas. Kindest regards, Lynne

    12/23/2013 03:35:23
    1. Re: Irish Genealogy Service
    2. Before you try a professional genealogist, have you exhausted free rootsweb sources, like the county lists and the Ireland-Genealogy-Newbies list? If you don't know the counties your ancestors came from, I'd suggest the Newbies list for starters. Diane

    10/31/2011 01:59:01
    1. Irish Genealogy Service
    2. Hi everybody I am looking for some advice tracing my Irish roots. I have hit a brick wall in my irish ancestry and have been thinking of trying a professional irish genealogist service. One friend has told me of the website MY IRISH ANCESTORS whose address is http://www.myirishancestors.co.uk He says that they helped him discover Irish roots in Cork during the 1800's. I wonder if anyone else has came across this genealogical service? and if so what service did you get from them thanks and regards, Martin Williamson

    10/31/2011 07:35:33
    1. Re: Donna Holland email
    2. Kay Wright
    3. There is some confusion here. It looks like this email is going to the people on the list individually instead of through ancient order of hibernians site. Kay

    07/26/2007 02:43:31
    1. AOH: Irish Cultural S.F. / ShamrockSac.
    2. C.J. Kennedy
    3. Hello Frank Bell, I am C.J. Kennedy, Vice President of The Shamrock Club of Sacramento. Some of us were thinking about a day trip to the United Irish Cultural Center. Would you or AOH have any suggestions to our S.F. travel agenda?, that would be of Irish Historical interest that we can see when we are in the city?. CJ. Kennedy ------------------------------------------------------------ Frank Bell wrote: The AOH site is www.aoh.com Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Wright wrote: There is some confusion here. It looks like this email is going to the people on the list individually instead of through ancient order of hibernians site. Kay AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2007 01:47:01
    1. Re: Donna Holland email
    2. Donna Holland
    3. you are exactly right , you are the second person that i have received on this web site mine is Holland name, the last one was Redmond, wish i knew how to get off. Donna Kay Wright <Mktadhg@net.bluemoon.net> wrote: There is some confusion here. It looks like this email is going to the people on the list individually instead of through ancient order of hibernians site. Kay AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Donna Holland

    07/26/2007 12:48:41
    1. Re: Donna Holland email
    2. Frank Bell
    3. The AOH site is www.aoh.com Frank Kay Wright <Mktadhg@net.bluemoon.net> wrote: There is some confusion here. It looks like this email is going to the people on the list individually instead of through ancient order of hibernians site. Kay AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/26/2007 12:00:41
    1. RE:
    2. dave redmond
    3. Hi Donna, There seems to have been some confusion. I went onto Roots Web and joined a mailing list relating to people who thought that their Irish family members may have been members of the fraternal organisation of the Order of the Hibernians. I sent that e-mail to ORDER-OF-THE-HIBERNIANS@rootsweb.com which can be seen from the communication information at the top of the e-mail. If you are not the administrator of this list then I strongly suspect that you have subscribed to recieve all e-mails sent to the administrator. If you are the administrator then it is likely that your group is misadvertised and I apologise for any inconvenience I might have caused you and request that I be removed from the list. All the best Dave Redmond > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:52:47 -0700> From: holland-donna@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: > To: ancient-order-of-hibernians@rootsweb.com> > Dave, who are you? where did you get my e-mail? who are the Redmond's and why do you think i have information on them? my e-mail to the Hibernians is not the Redmond's> > dave redmond <bigdaveredmond@hotmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether any Redmonds or Healys of Bunclody/Newtownbarry or Enniscorthy, Co.Wexford were members of this order?> > In particular an Owen Redmond (tailor) or his son Ignatius Redmond (tailor, born 1835 of Main Street, Newtownbarry, Co. Wexford) or his grandson (also a tailor, born 1868 also of Main Street, Newtownbarry).> > Any information would be much appreciated.> > All the best> Dave Redmond > _________________________________________________________________> The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail> http://www.newhotmail.co.uk> AOH > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > Donna Holland > AOH > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

    07/26/2007 03:01:58
    1. RE:
    2. Donna Holland
    3. Sorry Dave could not figure it out. my husbands family is Irish and his Uncle was a officer in the Hibernians from 1902 to his death in 1912. guess no one else wanted the job. anyway i was trying to see if his g-grandfather was a member but can not come up with a membership of people who belonged. hope you can do better then i am.Donna dave redmond <bigdaveredmond@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Donna, There seems to have been some confusion. I went onto Roots Web and joined a mailing list relating to people who thought that their Irish family members may have been members of the fraternal organisation of the Order of the Hibernians. I sent that e-mail to ORDER-OF-THE-HIBERNIANS@rootsweb.com which can be seen from the communication information at the top of the e-mail. If you are not the administrator of this list then I strongly suspect that you have subscribed to recieve all e-mails sent to the administrator. If you are the administrator then it is likely that your group is misadvertised and I apologise for any inconvenience I might have caused you and request that I be removed from the list. All the best Dave Redmond > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:52:47 -0700> From: holland-donna@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: > To: ancient-order-of-hibernians@rootsweb.com> > Dave, who are you? where did you get my e-mail? who are the Redmond's and why do you think i have information on them? my e-mail to the Hibernians is not the Redmond's> > dave redmond wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether any Redmonds or Healys of Bunclody/Newtownbarry or Enniscorthy, Co.Wexford were members of this order?> > In particular an Owen Redmond (tailor) or his son Ignatius Redmond (tailor, born 1835 of Main Street, Newtownbarry, Co. Wexford) or his grandson (also a tailor, born 1868 also of Main Street, Newtownbarry).> > Any information would be much appreciated.> > All the best> Dave Redmond > _________________________________________________________________> The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail> http://www.newhotmail.co.uk> AOH > -------------------------------> To u! nsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > Donna Holland > AOH > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Donna Holland

    07/26/2007 12:46:54
    1. dave redmond
    2. Can anyone tell me whether any Redmonds or Healys of Bunclody/Newtownbarry or Enniscorthy, Co.Wexford were members of this order? In particular an Owen Redmond (tailor) or his son Ignatius Redmond (tailor, born 1835 of Main Street, Newtownbarry, Co. Wexford) or his grandson (also a tailor, born 1868 also of Main Street, Newtownbarry). Any information would be much appreciated. All the best Dave Redmond _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

    07/25/2007 03:17:41
    1. Re:
    2. Donna Holland
    3. Dave, who are you? where did you get my e-mail? who are the Redmond's and why do you think i have information on them? my e-mail to the Hibernians is not the Redmond's dave redmond <bigdaveredmond@hotmail.com> wrote: Can anyone tell me whether any Redmonds or Healys of Bunclody/Newtownbarry or Enniscorthy, Co.Wexford were members of this order? In particular an Owen Redmond (tailor) or his son Ignatius Redmond (tailor, born 1835 of Main Street, Newtownbarry, Co. Wexford) or his grandson (also a tailor, born 1868 also of Main Street, Newtownbarry). Any information would be much appreciated. All the best Dave Redmond _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Donna Holland

    07/25/2007 01:52:47
    1. Re: AOH references follow-up
    2. Frank Bell
    3. If you like we can put the photo of your family and the sash on the AOH site. Frank Bell AOH DLCulhane@cs.com wrote: Good work, Charlie. If you or anyone else finds records for the Chicago chapter, I'd appreciate a lookup for my grandfather John Fergus Kerrigan. I know he was an officer around 1905 or so, as we have a portrait of him with his wife, children, and AOH sash. I've asked the local chapters, but they don't seem to have anything. Diane AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/09/2007 10:35:46
    1. Re: AOH references follow-up
    2. Good work, Charlie. If you or anyone else finds records for the Chicago chapter, I'd appreciate a lookup for my grandfather John Fergus Kerrigan. I know he was an officer around 1905 or so, as we have a portrait of him with his wife, children, and AOH sash. I've asked the local chapters, but they don't seem to have anything. Diane

    03/09/2007 08:53:58
    1. Re: AOH references follow-up
    2. frances heidel
    3. See, we're a GREAT group of men and women. Best of luck. Fran On Mar 9, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Charlie and Donna wrote: > Hello AOH listers, > > A couple of weeks ago I posted a bit of a rant on the > unavailibility of records and lack of assistance to genealogy > researchers from the AOH and the LAOH. My apologies to all, I > should always reread messages before hitting the send button. > > Ro, one of the list members responded, posting a message she had > received from Michael J. Cummings back in 2003. This message > listed 4 resources for AOH records. I contacted them all and here > is a break down of the responses for those who may be interested. > > 1. Cushwa Center, Notre Dame University - refered me to the > University Archives at archives.1@nd.edu. The University Archivist > replied that "we have som CD-ROMs sent to us by the National AOH" > but there was nothing for my particular search area. He refered me > to the AOH National Archivist, Michael Cummings at > saoirse@hotmail.com. (he was the person who responded to Ro) > > 2. NYS Irish American Heritage Center - http:// > www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org this organization has offices > in Albany, NY and the museum is located in East Durham, NY. They > have copies of The National Hibernian and The National Hibernian > Digest, which they offered to let me physically search. > > 3. Catholic University, Washington, D.C. - http://www.cua.edu/ > they hold the following in the Manuscript collection: > Hibernians, Ancient Order of (A.O.H.). Collection.1905-2003. 1 > box, 6 microfilm reels; 1 1/2 feet. Donors: James J. O'Connor, > Charles Vaughn, Marion Rafferty, 1994 - 2006. > > This collection has two parts. The first consists of six 35mm > microfilm reels preserving the official organ of the A.O.H. and > Ladies Auxiliary: the National Hibernian (1905-1947) and the > National Hibernian Digest (1947-1993). The second has several items > from the Ladies Auxiliary (LAAOH) of Warren County, NJ, that > includes a framed charter (1943), membership applications > (1943-1961), monthly meeting minute book (1992-1996), expense > account book (1973-1996), and a brief LAAOH history (1983, 2003). > > 4. Balch Institute for Ethical Studies - is now merged with the > Historical Society of Pennsylvania http://www.hsp.org/. This > organization, as you can guess by the title, focuses on > Pennsylvania History which is not my area of interest. > > Back to my claims of the non-responsive AOH leadership. I > contacted the AOH National Archivist, Michael Cummings (at the > email address above, as well as by snail mail). He has responded > to both. As St Patricks's Day and Easter are approaching, he is > quite busy, but he has searched two record data bases (mostly AOH > officer lists) and has two more to go. He has also enlisted me to > search Roman Catholic churches and look for gifts to the church > from the AOH. This is mainly in the form of stained glass windows, > but can also be bells, altars, statuary etc. This is an ongoing > AOH project. > I have also heard from the President of the Westchester Co., NY, > LAOH. They have nothing of a historical nature, but they did respond. > > So, I retract my earlier claim that the AOH and LAOH never > respond. Although the information they have is scant, they have > responded and I appreciate that. > > But, what I am learning is that for an organization as old > (established in 1836) and widespread as the AOH, there does not > seem to be any records available for those searching their Irish > ancestry. No doubt there would be important clues to the immigrant > member's family, townland, parish and county of origin in Ireland > and quite possibly information about dates of arrival etc which are > important as well. Its too bad that all this information seems to > have been lost. Maybe some of this information still in exsists. > I think it would be a worthwhile national project for the AOH and > LAOH to identify, collect, organize and make this information > available to the public, before it is gone forever. It would help > promote Irish Heritage and maybe boost your membership in the process. > > OK, I'll climb down off my soap box. > > My best wishes to all. > > Charles Steele in NY > AOH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER- > OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/09/2007 04:45:36
    1. AOH references follow-up
    2. Charlie and Donna
    3. Hello AOH listers, A couple of weeks ago I posted a bit of a rant on the unavailibility of records and lack of assistance to genealogy researchers from the AOH and the LAOH. My apologies to all, I should always reread messages before hitting the send button. Ro, one of the list members responded, posting a message she had received from Michael J. Cummings back in 2003. This message listed 4 resources for AOH records. I contacted them all and here is a break down of the responses for those who may be interested. 1. Cushwa Center, Notre Dame University - refered me to the University Archives at archives.1@nd.edu. The University Archivist replied that "we have som CD-ROMs sent to us by the National AOH" but there was nothing for my particular search area. He refered me to the AOH National Archivist, Michael Cummings at saoirse@hotmail.com. (he was the person who responded to Ro) 2. NYS Irish American Heritage Center - http://www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org this organization has offices in Albany, NY and the museum is located in East Durham, NY. They have copies of The National Hibernian and The National Hibernian Digest, which they offered to let me physically search. 3. Catholic University, Washington, D.C. - http://www.cua.edu/ they hold the following in the Manuscript collection: Hibernians, Ancient Order of (A.O.H.). Collection.1905-2003. 1 box, 6 microfilm reels; 1 1/2 feet. Donors: James J. O'Connor, Charles Vaughn, Marion Rafferty, 1994 - 2006. This collection has two parts. The first consists of six 35mm microfilm reels preserving the official organ of the A.O.H. and Ladies Auxiliary: the National Hibernian (1905-1947) and the National Hibernian Digest (1947-1993). The second has several items from the Ladies Auxiliary (LAAOH) of Warren County, NJ, that includes a framed charter (1943), membership applications (1943-1961), monthly meeting minute book (1992-1996), expense account book (1973-1996), and a brief LAAOH history (1983, 2003). 4. Balch Institute for Ethical Studies - is now merged with the Historical Society of Pennsylvania http://www.hsp.org/. This organization, as you can guess by the title, focuses on Pennsylvania History which is not my area of interest. Back to my claims of the non-responsive AOH leadership. I contacted the AOH National Archivist, Michael Cummings (at the email address above, as well as by snail mail). He has responded to both. As St Patricks's Day and Easter are approaching, he is quite busy, but he has searched two record data bases (mostly AOH officer lists) and has two more to go. He has also enlisted me to search Roman Catholic churches and look for gifts to the church from the AOH. This is mainly in the form of stained glass windows, but can also be bells, altars, statuary etc. This is an ongoing AOH project. I have also heard from the President of the Westchester Co., NY, LAOH. They have nothing of a historical nature, but they did respond. So, I retract my earlier claim that the AOH and LAOH never respond. Although the information they have is scant, they have responded and I appreciate that. But, what I am learning is that for an organization as old (established in 1836) and widespread as the AOH, there does not seem to be any records available for those searching their Irish ancestry. No doubt there would be important clues to the immigrant member's family, townland, parish and county of origin in Ireland and quite possibly information about dates of arrival etc which are important as well. Its too bad that all this information seems to have been lost. Maybe some of this information still in exsists. I think it would be a worthwhile national project for the AOH and LAOH to identify, collect, organize and make this information available to the public, before it is gone forever. It would help promote Irish Heritage and maybe boost your membership in the process. OK, I'll climb down off my soap box. My best wishes to all. Charles Steele in NY

    03/09/2007 04:30:58
    1. Re: AOH references follow-up
    2. Donal O'Kelly
    3. Thank you Charles. Thank you for taking the bit in your mouth and running with it. As admin I have been concerned about where the records are and how we can access them. As a researcher I am working on the other end to provide a database to which we can add data if we can transcrivbe it by the county and categorize what we find. The roadmap is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ which lists what the categories are and provides a database to which we can post information collected and sorted for each county in Ireland. PLEASE BOOKMARK THIS SITE. Thank you all again for working so hard to find cousins, where they lived, and what they did for Ireland and the irish causes. If you have anything to add by way of presently held databases, I can have them put up to the database my next day off, next Monday, or you can directly contact the county database coordinator who will put them up. This is great news, and thanks again Charles. Donal O'Collaigh O'Kelly Please SNIP your headers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Donna" <cndsteele@verizon.net> To: "ANCIENT-ORDER-0F-HIBERNIANS@rootsweb.com" <ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:30 AM Subject: AOH references follow-up > Hello AOH listers, > > A couple of weeks ago I posted a bit of a rant on the unavailibility of > records and lack of assistance to genealogy researchers from the AOH and > the LAOH. My apologies to all, I should always reread messages before > hitting the send button. > > Ro, one of the list members responded, posting a message she had received > from Michael J. Cummings back in 2003. This message listed 4 resources > for AOH records. I contacted them all and here is a break down of the > responses for those who may be interested. > > 1. Cushwa Center, Notre Dame University - refered me to the University > Archives at archives.1@nd.edu. The University Archivist replied that "we > have som CD-ROMs sent to us by the National AOH" but there was nothing for > my particular search area. He refered me to the AOH National Archivist, > Michael Cummings at saoirse@hotmail.com. (he was the person who responded > to Ro) > > 2. NYS Irish American Heritage Center - > http://www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org this organization has offices > in Albany, NY and the museum is located in East Durham, NY. They have > copies of The National Hibernian and The National Hibernian Digest, which > they offered to let me physically search. > > 3. Catholic University, Washington, D.C. - http://www.cua.edu/ they hold > the following in the Manuscript collection: > Hibernians, Ancient Order of (A.O.H.). Collection.1905-2003. 1 box, 6 > microfilm reels; 1 1/2 feet. Donors: James J. O'Connor, Charles Vaughn, > Marion Rafferty, 1994 - 2006. > > This collection has two parts. The first consists of six 35mm microfilm > reels preserving the official organ of the A.O.H. and Ladies Auxiliary: > the National Hibernian (1905-1947) and the National Hibernian Digest > (1947-1993). The second has several items from the Ladies Auxiliary > (LAAOH) of Warren County, NJ, that includes a framed charter (1943), > membership applications (1943-1961), monthly meeting minute book > (1992-1996), expense account book (1973-1996), and a brief LAAOH history > (1983, 2003). > > 4. Balch Institute for Ethical Studies - is now merged with the > Historical Society of Pennsylvania http://www.hsp.org/. This > organization, as you can guess by the title, focuses on Pennsylvania > History which is not my area of interest. > > Back to my claims of the non-responsive AOH leadership. I contacted the > AOH National Archivist, Michael Cummings (at the email address above, as > well as by snail mail). He has responded to both. As St Patricks's Day > and Easter are approaching, he is quite busy, but he has searched two > record data bases (mostly AOH officer lists) and has two more to go. He > has also enlisted me to search Roman Catholic churches and look for gifts > to the church from the AOH. This is mainly in the form of stained glass > windows, but can also be bells, altars, statuary etc. This is an ongoing > AOH project. > I have also heard from the President of the Westchester Co., NY, LAOH. > They have nothing of a historical nature, but they did respond. > > So, I retract my earlier claim that the AOH and LAOH never respond. > Although the information they have is scant, they have responded and I > appreciate that. > > But, what I am learning is that for an organization as old (established in > 1836) and widespread as the AOH, there does not seem to be any records > available for those searching their Irish ancestry. No doubt there would > be important clues to the immigrant member's family, townland, parish and > county of origin in Ireland and quite possibly information about dates of > arrival etc which are important as well. Its too bad that all this > information seems to have been lost. Maybe some of this information still > in exsists. I think it would be a worthwhile national project for the AOH > and LAOH to identify, collect, organize and make this information > available to the public, before it is gone forever. It would help promote > Irish Heritage and maybe boost your membership in the process. > > OK, I'll climb down off my soap box. > > My best wishes to all. > > Charles Steele in NY > AOH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

    03/09/2007 01:56:11
    1. Re: ROLLCALL
    2. M�che�l � Doibhil�n
    3. I am learning a lot about the AOH from this discussion - thanks. I am not a member, and knew/know nothing of its structure or organisation. My great-grandfather was in Dublin - is that any help? Certainly my uncle, who told me about 'his' sash, said that it was handed in to 'the Dublin branch' for safekeeping. He said it was a loan, so obviously no-one disabused him of this idea! Another reply suggest that possibly the Royal (Irish) Academy accepts these items now. One wonders did they in the past? I had thought the Dublin Civic Museum might have taken the records etc. of the AOH in Dublin when it closed down (when? What year?) but that is itself now closed for refurbishment and almost all records and artifacts are now locked away for safe-keeping. Based on another reply, do I now take it that my great-grandfather was an 'officer' of some kind (sorry - I don't know the titles) as he had a sash? Once again, thanks for your help and information. Micheal O Doibhilin ----Original Message Follows---- From: Frank Bell <bell.frank@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: ancient-order-of-hibernians@rootsweb.com To: ancient-order-of-hibernians@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ROLLCALL Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:08:04 -0800 (PST) Hi Micheal, usually the Sargent-at-arms is responsible for the regalia of the division. I share your frustration at the seeming lack of for sight about what happens to things over the years.I have had the same problem in the San Francisco area. The charter and things purchased by the division are the property of the AOH. The problem is that over the years people do not follow the rules and keep things and they are lost when the member dies and the family just tosses them out. This problem is rampant in all fraternal organizations not just the AOH. Do you know the division number your great-grandfather was a member of? Frank Mícheál Ó Doibhilín <odoibh_m@hotmail.com> wrote: I don't know if this is relevant to the current topic, but here in ireland we have a major problem with the AOH - mainly, it does not exist, and getting information about it or its history is impossible form the AOH. My great-grandfather was a proud member of the AOH and, after his death, his sash and, possibly, other memorabilia was (were) loaned to the Dublin branch. Now we would like to know what happened to these items, where they are and - possibly - get them back. But no-one can tell us anything about what are, in fact, some of the extremely few item that still exist to connect us to our great-grandfather, or even where the records and artifacts of the Dublin AOH are. Our suspicion is that they have been thrown out or disposed of (e.g. sold off) without our knowledge. All I can say is HELLLLLLLP! Micheal ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Donal O'Kelly" Reply-To: ancient-order-of-hibernians@rootsweb.com To: Subject: Re: ROLLCALL Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:31:51 -0800 Thank you Frank. The caution of course was to keep individual posts under 40kb AND not try to attach photos to listmail. The Rootsweb program strips out attachments. But everything else was good news to me and I would like to see photos. My private email program can take multiple attachments....so no problem there. I'll just start an AOH file folder. Thanks again Frank Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Bell" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: ROLLCALL >I thought we were all on the same page about the history of the AOH. I am >not sure about the caution heading. If anyone wants to see the photo of the >San Mateo AOH from 1915 please email me and I will send it. I did not know >it would be deleted from my, "good faith" posting. The AOH is not just a >group from the past it is alive and well in many parts of the county. It is >the largest Irish Catholic Organization outside of Ireland. > > Frank > > Frank Bell wrote: > If any one has photo's of AOH meetings, uniforms, regalia or any thing > that has AOH on it maybe we can help identifying it. If you are in an area > that has an active division your may be able to get a bit of help. If the > info was not sent to the National group they of course would not have a > record. If I might make a suggestion make an oral history of your > families. My cousin did this for her mother and it was a real eye opener > about the Irish in San Francisco in the 1900's. The AOH is now working on > identifying stained glass and other church items that have been donated by > the local Divisions. The windows may have info on them or your might have > it do some research with the pastor. We have found over two hundred so > far. There is a DVD of them if you would like to see what has been > uncovered so far. > > The file attached is a photo of the AOH in my town, San Mateo, from 1915. > Sent by the son of Br. Bruke. 2nd row third from the left. > > Happy hunting. > > Frank Bell(Donohue) > AOH > > "Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal" wrote: > Here is an email from a gentlemen regarding my direct request in 2003: > > "Dear Ms McGrath > I searched our National Directories for 1884 and 1902 and 1904. It only > lists officers and their addresses. The only McGraths(or McGraw as the > name sometimes went) amongst the officers were a Patrick McGrath > Treasurer, 211 W. 29th St, NY County and a Peter McGrath, 64 Henry Street, > Kings CO. Both were in the 1884 Directory. I even tried the ladies (in the > 1903,4 directories) in the event a sister was active or a widow but to no > avail. > We have records and photos in four depositories---Cushwa Center, Notre > Dame University, Catholic University, NYS Irish American Heritage Museum > and the Balch Institute ib Philadelphia---where there are microfilms of > our National newspaper which date back to 1892 and our convention > proceedings which are a little later. That would be a tedious job and > would only be a bit of luck if there was a reference to Laurence...an > obituary, a delegate motion he made etc. Check every once in a while on > our website as we hope to add new search capabilities to it in the near > future and we are hoping to add many more photos. > Sorry I couldn't be more help." > > > > > > > Michael J. Cummings > > 12 Marion Avenue > > Albany, New York 12203-1814 > > 518-482-0349-H > > 518-447-4802-O > > > > Maybe this will help someone...let us know what your results are please. > Ro > > > > Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > AOH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > AOH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Find accommodation FAST with MSN Search! http://search.msn.ie/ AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message AOH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ANCIENT-ORDER-OF-HIBERNIANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN Ireland! http://ie.msn.com/

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