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    1. [AMXROADS] Pushing the envelope!
    2. Jim Cookman, Adelita Chirino
    3. Now I'm really confused. Bryant Gumbel, God and Billy Graham's daughter? Who are these individuals and where are they from? Anyone seen any birth records? Pardon my skepticism, please. An overpaid sportscaster, the daughter of possibly the second or third most dangerous man in America and the collective wishful figment of all our weakest moments? Why are we trotting these out as some sort of justification for anything? History is the tale told by the victors. History rarely records the good folk, or only mentions them in passing; they're only a birth record, a death record, a recorded land transaction. Jackson, Lincoln, Sherman, Grant, even Washington (who couldn't strategize his way out of a paper bag) were all arguably sonsofbitches. It is precisely this that plants them firmly in history. Life is short, and then your heirs throw out all your boxes of genealogy materials. Why should we waste our time being apologists for anybody? Zealous replies cheerfully accepted! Regards, Jim Cookman PasaPeruva@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/11/01 4:00:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << From: josie bass <jbass@digital.net> > To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Apology > > Carolyn, thank you for the apology, i have one request. Please leave out > disparaging heated remarks about the South including Jackson from your > post. It is very hurtful. I can't help but take exception to it. If you > do say something please present the other side for balance. >> > > Josie, please let the dead stay dead and sleep in pease. They deserve this > as well as we need to think good thoughts of them regardless of North or > South -- Black -- > Brown -- Red or White. > When you speak of wrong doing just remember who came here looking for a place > to buy spices and did not find that. > Who sent people to these shores as crimenals for stealing a loaf of bread, an > apple from a tree. These things are documented in legal journals in England. > Who kept pushing and traveling west when the King of England said not to > travel acorss the mountains as that land west belonged to the Indians, Native > Americans and people that were droped off from a ship and told to sink or > swim to the eastern shores of this land we now call America. > Many times I am ashamed of the color of my skin, it is white, but underneath > it is many colors but I bleed red blood as do all humans. If you read true > history men and women all intermarried a lot. Red, white, black, brown, > yellow, cream and it is still going on. Now however they do not hide behind > a door or stay away from crowds, they mingle. Children learn to mingle and > only when an adult steps in do they learn to be mean to someone different > from themselves. > If we as people do not start to let the old hurts dye our children will pick > up the gauntlet and carry it. The following came to me and I pass it along > for what all of the list to read and put their own meaning to it. Beej > > Subj: Bryant Gumbel was silent. > Date: 11/11/01 5:10:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time > > "...if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves > and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will > I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." > 2 Chronicles 7:14 > > Bryant Gumbel recently interviewed Billy Graham's daughter. > > Gumbel: "Why didn't God stop this or do something about this?" > > Billy Graham's daughter: "For years we have told God we didn't want > Him in our schools. We didn't want Him in our government and we > didn't want Him in our finances; and God was being a perfect > gentleman in doing just what we asked Him to do. We need to make > up our minds -- do we want God or do we not want Him? We > cannot just ask Him in when disaster strikes." > > Bryant Gumbel was silent. > > End of 2 cents worth....................... > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

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