Exactly Jim, Beej since you criticized me directly in your message and you bev me tooed below is for you! Beej and Beverly, when you say: "Many times I am ashamed of the color of my skin, it is white", I feel sorry for you. For God's Sake, Go to Hamlins website (black talk show host of Denver Colorado) and get your self a Guilt Free Certificate. josie At 09:50 AM 11/13/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Now I'm really confused. Bryant Gumbel, God and Billy Graham's >daughter? Who are these individuals and where are they from? Anyone >seen any birth records? > >Pardon my skepticism, please. An overpaid sportscaster, the daughter of >possibly the second or third most dangerous man in America and the >collective wishful figment of all our weakest moments? Why are we >trotting these out as some sort of justification for anything? History >is the tale told by the victors. History rarely records the good folk, >or only mentions them in passing; they're only a birth record, a death >record, a recorded land transaction. Jackson, Lincoln, Sherman, Grant, >even Washington (who couldn't strategize his way out of a paper bag) >were all arguably sonsofbitches. It is precisely this that plants them >firmly in history. > >Life is short, and then your heirs throw out all your boxes of genealogy >materials. Why should we waste our time being apologists for anybody? >Zealous replies cheerfully accepted! >Regards, >Jim Cookman > > >PasaPeruva@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 11/11/01 4:00:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > > AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > << From: josie bass <jbass@digital.net> > > To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Apology > > > > Carolyn, thank you for the apology, i have one request. Please leave out > > disparaging heated remarks about the South including Jackson from your > > post. It is very hurtful. I can't help but take exception to it. If you > > do say something please present the other side for balance. >> > > > > Josie, please let the dead stay dead and sleep in pease. They deserve this > > as well as we need to think good thoughts of them regardless of North or > > South -- Black -- > > Brown -- Red or White. > > When you speak of wrong doing just remember who came here looking for a > place > > to buy spices and did not find that. > > Who sent people to these shores as crimenals for stealing a loaf of > bread, an > > apple from a tree. These things are documented in legal journals in > England. > > Who kept pushing and traveling west when the King of England said not to > > travel acorss the mountains as that land west belonged to the Indians, > Native > > Americans and people that were droped off from a ship and told to sink or > > swim to the eastern shores of this land we now call America. > > Many times I am ashamed of the color of my skin, it is white, but > underneath > > it is many colors but I bleed red blood as do all humans. If you read true > > history men and women all intermarried a lot. Red, white, black, brown, > > yellow, cream and it is still going on. Now however they do not hide > behind > > a door or stay away from crowds, they mingle. Children learn to mingle and > > only when an adult steps in do they learn to be mean to someone different > > from themselves. > > If we as people do not start to let the old hurts dye our children will > pick > > up the gauntlet and carry it. The following came to me and I pass it along > > for what all of the list to read and put their own meaning to it. Beej > > > > Subj: Bryant Gumbel was silent. > > Date: 11/11/01 5:10:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time > > > > "...if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves > > and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will > > I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." > > 2 Chronicles 7:14 > > > > Bryant Gumbel recently interviewed Billy Graham's daughter. > > > > Gumbel: "Why didn't God stop this or do something about this?" > > > > Billy Graham's daughter: "For years we have told God we didn't want > > Him in our schools. We didn't want Him in our government and we > > didn't want Him in our finances; and God was being a perfect > > gentleman in doing just what we asked Him to do. We need to make > > up our minds -- do we want God or do we not want Him? We > > cannot just ask Him in when disaster strikes." > > > > Bryant Gumbel was silent. > > > > End of 2 cents worth....................... > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238