In a message dated 6/22/02 6:00:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << However, Ancestry has re-formatted most of their most useful databases, adding a "I am related" and "Comments," after each entry, which makes it impossible to simply copy by outlining the information from the page with the mouse and pasting it into your word processor so that it can be compared with other regional entries, for instance the other land owners along a watercourse. Had I enough time, I would be adding plenty of comments to these entries, but there are simply too many to tell Ancestry what I think of this practice. Computer and internet genealogy is supposed to make research easier rather than complicate it, especially when you're paying for the services, which is the case at Ancestry. Also annoying at Ancestry, while I'm ranting, is the offensive advertising which now permeates their pages -- doubly annoying for a subscription service. >> Carolyn: You are correct that Ancestry does not make research easy for researchers. I pd. the yr. several yrs. ago I could get in all the free stuff great but the pd databases was something else. I wrote and wrote about my problems and nothing they said helped me as my son could not phathom what they were saying. Then when my yr had two monthss to go they came back and said that I needed cookies in order to research in ancestry.com correctly. My son had felt I did not need cookies cluttering up my machine so he cut accepting them. We live and learn. Ancestry also gets on the long list of links for free pages and you click on a title and here is ancestry saying that the database if for paid subscription. This burnes me to a crisp to say it mildly. I have a pd sub to the census on ancesty and I forget which yr. it was but for the state of IN, Henry Co., the township of Wayne is not there. This is the township Knightstown, IN is in and where I am supposted to find my mother's mother as a child living with family friends. No answer as to why this twp. has been left out. Where do they get off if advertising complete, 'COMPLETE, census of a state when one missing twp. can mess up genealogy research. I pd. good money to sit home to do my census and not limp around a busy library to get the microfilm, run it on the viewer, undo it limp many yds. to the copy alcove, wait inline to get it copied, then retarce my limping steps to the viewer and go on from there and when I find someone else do the same proceedure again. This makes me want to invest in my own viewer for my home with a printer attached. Yes, they have microviewers with printers attached, as New Castle, IN has one in their Public Library. They are neat, and microfilm research is enjoyable there. You know why ancestry wants notes when you find someone of your family and you leave a note? This gives them more info on that person you are researching and they can add you to thier database and charge others for what you just gave them freely, this is not right. I know there are those that swear by Ancestry to be excellant bar none. Me I will no longer be a sheep to follow them around and give them info on my family that takes me time plus money to find and get. When I got the Census thru Ancestry.com it was the free 14 day trial. Guess what on the thirteenth day (13th) they subed me into the census subscription and it was three days before I found out and they would do nothing about my not wanting the 'service'? Oh, well we peons live, learn and lose money. These are my personal views, I force it on no one but the fact is I do not believe that Ancestry.com is totally honest with the world. Carolyn: I want to thank you for the web URL, I have not been there yet as wanted to reply to your post. I have been to seminars and they have all said to copy names 10 before and 10 after your ancestor in order to get a concensus of possible inlaws, and family members that might be living close by. Indexs I don't do this as an index is just that alpha listing and does not mean any relationship to each name in order at all. I am looking forward to getting into the Census Study and sure I will find much info to learn from. You took time from your regular business at hand to be of help to me and I trully appreciate it. Carolyn you are the BESTEST friend, cousin and teacher any on this list could ask for. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS. Send me your mothers address and I will send her some picture postcards from my state that at this moment is buring up and not sun temperature either. I am sure that you have all seen this in the news. I am not close to the area as it is, what we call, above the 'rim' so far. It is gets to Payson it will be below the 'rim' area and it would not surprise me that it is (the rim) 2000 ft above the vallely were Payson happens to be. It is a sad time for those people, I have sat and watched and wondered how many were doing genealogy and lost it ALL. I have note books, file cabinet, sm. plastic crates with hanging files I have researched the past 5 yrs. , CDs and research books that I have emassed in the past yr or two that I would be devistated if I were to loose them. These people probably never thought this would happen to them. A once in a livetime happening. Was in the 1800s since the last devistating fire hit AZ. Like earth quakes, they do happen, even rarely, and we have no idea when or where. I was ready to close a long time ago but as I told my new cousin I get started and it is hard for me to quit my brain from functioning. Also Carolyn, thank you for agreeing with me on the copy/paste post I made. Thank you all for reading to the end of my dissertation or exertation how ever you see it. Beej