Carolyn, Is this Valentine Material only avaialble when one subscribes to the annual fee indicated? If so, so be it. But, is that the only way to have access to this work? If so, in a year of so, one could drive to Nashville, phoptcopy the whole Woodson pages for the cost of the subscription, that would need to be renewed in a year. What is your take on this? Best wishes, William Woodson ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel <cmacdee@centurytel.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: [AMXROADS] Birthdays, Babies, and Valentines > Dear Cousins! > Today is my birthday, and don't ask! I'm at the age when I don't want to admit to how many. Too many fingers to hold up and so many candles the cake would fry! I was feeling pretty down in the dumps this morning, but my son-in-law Daniel called this morning to announce the early arrival of my Granddaughter -- tentatively Victoria -- but I have suggested Victoria Carolyn instead. Daniel said his brother Ron suggested Ronald. I don't know what that means, but probably that they're not going to name her Victoria Carolyn. > This is a small miracle in our family. Andrea and Dan have been married 18 years, (longer than both of my failed marriages) and had finally consulted a fertility specialist in order to conceive. Our baby was supposed to be due the 16th of January, after I arrived in Maryland! I said she's showing my characteristics already -- she arrived when she decided it was right. I am so elated. What a blessed gift. > The next news is the addition of the Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers at Ancestry.com. I suggested this work several years ago after I first subscribed to Ancestry, and also suggested that if they indeed published them, they should award me copies of the 4 volumes work. (They haven't yet!) This is an indispensible tool for the Virginia researcher. Mr. Valentine copied records for 34 core Virginia families: Allen, Bacon, Ballard, Batchelder, Blouet, Brassieur, Cary, Crenshaw, Dabney, Exum, Ferris, Fontaine, Gray, Hardy, Isham, Jordan, Langston, Lyddall, Mann, Mosby, Palmer, Pasteur, Pleasants, Povall, Randolph, Satterwhite, Scott, Smith, Valentine, Waddy, Watts, Winston, Womack, and Woodson. In providing the records for these families Mr. Valentine's research also gives records pertaining to a variety of allied families and neighbors. > The Virginia family I believe is MY Smith family is Mr. Valentine's Smith family which he researched so diligently until his early death in 1908. His collection was published posthumously, to the very great benefit of untold descendants of these families. I disagree with Mr. Valentine's conclusions regarding Francis Smith's family, but have not yet completed the research. I hope to publish a paper on this research, for this family is at the heart and soul of the Virginia Frontier families. Francis Smith's daughter Susanna married William Preston, whose position, influence, and family touched literally every early Frontier Virginia settler from the mid-1700's to the end of the century. In turn, their descendants became judges, governors, state and federal office holders into the 20th century. Your Virginia (and beyond!) research will be greatly enhanced through examining Mr. Valentine's massive, (nearly 3000 pages, including the index,) brilliant work. > (You may need to copy and then paste this address) > http://www.ancestry.com/search/locality/dbpage.htm?t=2&c=49&co=0&y=0&dbid=60 58 > > Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear WW and Cousins: For those of us in the backcountry, who cannot drive to a library easily, and who access huge amounts of data via a subscription service like this, the cost is not prohibitive, and access is very easy and comfortable in one's own home (i.e., at midnight when I can't sleep.) Also, when the databases first become available at ancestry, they permit free access for ten days. BUT, you are right in many ways. Another method is getting the books through interlibrary loan. It is time consuming but effective, and you can make photocopies. A VERY big advantage at Ancestry is the huge variety of databases which are not so easily accessed elsewhere, for instance the census images they are offer, the mlitary records, the land records, etc. Since these are searchable, it saves many frustrating hours of trying to check page numbers, run to the photocopier, etc. But, garbage in, garbage ou!!. Ancestry has not indexed some works properly, and so relying on the search engine means that one might miss just the key record one needs. In the Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers at Ancestry, Kate Markham who married Thomas Smith does not turn up on the Markham search. Neither does PARKE SMITH, whom I believe may well be my ancestor. The whole Brasieur family doesn't show up! AND, worser and worser!! when a fantastic hit is made, asy a will, or these EPV papers, Ancestry has recently taken to adding a HTML coded "Comment" behind every few lines which means that copying the stuff is practically impossible. THIS IS NOT the service I pay for, and had I not renewed prior to their doing this, I would have questioned renewing at some length. There is a subscription service available for the William and Mary Quarterly, which I used as a student, through JSTOR, and I can highly recommend it. The search feature is highly effective, eliminating many many frustrations of trying to find a particular name in a particular journal (since they've been publishing for over a decade) and then finding the person is not really the John Smith one hoped to locate. Many good hearted souls are transcribing the early WMQ articles containing parish records and the like, and which are no longer subject to copyright, and publishing them on the Rootsweb archived pages. . http://www.wm.edu/oieahc/JSTOR.html This is a real good question, WW., thanks for asking. Does anyone else have any different take on this? Or additional comments?? Love, Your Courin, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: William Woodson <wwoodson@lorettotel.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Birthdays, Babies, and Valentines > Carolyn, > Is this Valentine Material only avaialble when one subscribes to the annual > fee indicated? If so, so be it. But, is that the only way to have access > to this work? If so, in a year of so, one could drive to Nashville, > phoptcopy the whole Woodson pages for the cost of the subscription, that > would need to be renewed in a year. What is your take on this? Best > wishes, William Woodson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carolyn McDaniel <cmacdee@centurytel.net> > To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 7:37 PM > Subject: [AMXROADS] Birthdays, Babies, and Valentines > > > > Dear Cousins! > > Today is my birthday, and don't ask! I'm at the age when I don't want > to admit to how many. Too many fingers to hold up and so many candles the > cake would fry! I was feeling pretty down in the dumps this morning, but my > son-in-law Daniel called this morning to announce the early arrival of my > Granddaughter -- tentatively Victoria -- but I have suggested Victoria > Carolyn instead. Daniel said his brother Ron suggested Ronald. I don't > know what that means, but probably that they're not going to name her > Victoria Carolyn. > > This is a small miracle in our family. Andrea and Dan have been > married 18 years, (longer than both of my failed marriages) and had finally > consulted a fertility specialist in order to conceive. Our baby was > supposed to be due the 16th of January, after I arrived in Maryland! I said > she's showing my characteristics already -- she arrived when she decided it > was right. I am so elated. What a blessed gift. > > The next news is the addition of the Edward Pleasants Valentine > Papers at Ancestry.com. I suggested this work several years ago after I > first subscribed to Ancestry, and also suggested that if they indeed > published them, they should award me copies of the 4 volumes work. (They > haven't yet!) This is an indispensible tool for the Virginia researcher. > Mr. Valentine copied records for 34 core Virginia families: Allen, Bacon, > Ballard, Batchelder, Blouet, Brassieur, Cary, Crenshaw, Dabney, Exum, > Ferris, Fontaine, Gray, Hardy, Isham, Jordan, Langston, Lyddall, Mann, > Mosby, Palmer, Pasteur, Pleasants, Povall, Randolph, Satterwhite, Scott, > Smith, Valentine, Waddy, Watts, Winston, Womack, and Woodson. In providing > the records for these families Mr. Valentine's research also gives records > pertaining to a variety of allied families and neighbors. > > The Virginia family I believe is MY Smith family is Mr. > Valentine's Smith family which he researched so diligently until his early > death in 1908. His collection was published posthumously, to the very great > benefit of untold descendants of these families. I disagree with Mr. > Valentine's conclusions regarding Francis Smith's family, but have not yet > completed the research. I hope to publish a paper on this research, for > this family is at the heart and soul of the Virginia Frontier families. > Francis Smith's daughter Susanna married William Preston, whose position, > influence, and family touched literally every early Frontier Virginia > settler from the mid-1700's to the end of the century. In turn, their > descendants became judges, governors, state and federal office holders into > the 20th century. Your Virginia (and beyond!) research will be greatly > enhanced through examining Mr. Valentine's massive, (nearly 3000 pages, > including the index,) brilliant work. > > (You may need to copy and then paste this address) > > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/locality/dbpage.htm?t=2&c=49&co=0&y=0&dbid=60 > 58 > > > > Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >