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    1. [AMXROADS] The Baltimore Perimeter
    2. Dear Cousins, I apologize for my long silence. I've been really stymied due to health difficulties, and also due to Internet Server Provider failures. I've only managed to access my old personal account at 2 or 3 in the morning, and then only long enough to retrieve e-mail messages. I've therefore been unable to manage the website because I'm shut down before I can get files uploaded. I started getting a new ISP and now they are 0 for 3 in attempts to get the new DSL service installed! Soooo, temporarily I am trying out AOL and you can reach me personally at twocatherd@aol.com In the interim, I have not accomplished a great deal at the website. I've uploaded a new page on the Baltimore Perimeter which locates Philadelphia Perimeter families who began moving further into the frontier reaches of the western shore. You can reach this page at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Balto/index.html I will try to get the associated lists and pages up soon, but I am no longer making predictions. Stuff I had hoped to have up in January (particularly) in regard to the NW/SW Perimeter (NC and VA) still is not up. Mea Culpa, Jim! There are a variety of tax lists for the Baltimore County Hundreds beginning in 1701, which approximates the time frame for the initial settlers in the Baltimore Perimeter. Please examine these pages, and go back and examine the Philadelphia Perimeter pages. Delve into allied families. You will almost certainly find Surname roots of your 19th century KY, NC, SC, TN, etc. families. In the case of my own family beginnings, almost all of the later settlers in the South, Southwest and Midwest (KY, OH, WVA, etc.) came out of this region around the Delaware River. Originally I thought my McDaniels and Watts families emanated from Virginia to begin with, but the more I search, the clearer it becomes that the Backcountry or Frontier culture that kept migrating into the 19th century, came from the Philadelphia Perimeter. Complicating the research along the way is the general mis-identification of families and individuals through sloppy, endless repetitions of the most basic research errors. The principal mistake is never finding and using primary documents. Using secondary sources, "family information," or statements like, "many people think," "it is believed by most researchers," should set off flashing red lights and mega-decibel submarine Yah-oooooo-gah! warnings! Here is a long standing example. Edward Beeson (Beason/Beastin) was an immigrant to Pennsylvania in the first waves of Penn's Quaker settlers in the 1680's. His first wife Rachel is identified as a Pennington and her birthdate and birthplace are given in (secondary) records as Lancaster, Lancashire, England, where Edward was also born. This makes sense! Not much else about Edward and his wives does make sense. His 1st wife Rachel is plopped smack into the middle of Isaac Pennington's family (the Quaker writer, whose stepdaughter Guilielma Maria Springett married William Penn.) Now, this defies all logic and all genealogical basic principles. First, Isaac had no daughter Rachel. He did not live in Lancashire, and none of his children were born there. So why do people go endlessly on perpetuating this nonsensical lie about Rachel Pennington's roots? One webpage I visited which is connected with the Pennington "Research" Association reasons that because Edward Beeson willed a property purchased from Daniel Wharley/Worley to his children, and because Daniel Wharley was married to Isaac Pennington's daughter Mary, the writer concludes Voila! It is true that Rachel Pennington was Isaac's daughter! The truth is, Mary Pennington Wharley was Isaac and Mary's only daughter, and Guilielma (Isaac's stepdaughter) was married to William Penn. Penn gave many pieces of property to the Penningtons, to Daniel Ellwood, and additionally there were various purchasers who never came to America. Although there were various Wharleys in the Philadelphia Perimeter, I have found nothing that indicates Daniel and Mary (Pennington)Wharley ever came to America. Our (other) Cousin Jim descends from Isaac Pennington's son Edward who married Sarah Jennings, left one son Isaac, and died within two years after his arrival in Philadelphia. The research in this area is complicated further by the great mobility of the Quakers and their kinship families, by persons going back and forth between counties and colonies, and by our lack of recognition of individuals because of misspellings. Edward Beeson died with a will in Chester County, PA in 1712. He first lived at New Castle, which is now in Delaware. There are other Beasons (etc.) to be found in Cecil and Anne Arundel Counties, MD. Edward's son Richard was one of those who migrated to Hopewell MM in Frederick County, VA (first Orange) and later to Guilford County, NC. As we unravel errors, mysteries and missing links about one family who was an elemental part of the Backcountry Culture, we will find that other family puzzles will be solved as well. This is our AMXROADS mission, should you choose to accept it! I hope to be more efficient in pointing directions as my personal problems become resolved. Love, Your Cousin Carolyn twocatherd@aol.com

    03/24/2001 10:23:16
    1. [AMXROADS] Hi Cousins
    2. Marilyn Kucera
    3. Dear Cousins, It was so good to see your posting today, Carolyn. Glad you are able to add more to the Crossroads site. I always look forward to your articles. For the past week I have been typing up the Quaker marriage certificates from Sadsbury MM in Lancaster Co., PA. It's a tough project, the copies are hard to read, some are illegible. The ones I am currently working on date from 1810-1830. This time frame seems to be difficult to find marriage records for. Anyone interested in seeing the work can check out the web address at the bottom of the page. Wanted to let you all know that our friend and list member, Mary Yarnell, was in the hospital in Mesa all of last week. They moved her to rehab last night and she expects to be there about 2 weeks. Your prayers and good wishes for her would be most appreciated. Keep up the good work Carolyn. We all appreciate it so much. Marilyn http://www.rootsweb.com/~paslchs/smmarr2.html

    03/24/2001 08:56:52
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Long Silence
    2. Mary Yarnell
    3. Greetings, Carolyn - - Just remember it's supposed to be darkest before the dawn! These "internet machines" are a real blessing -- until they foul up on us, which happens to 'most everyone sooner or later. Hang in there! MCY

    03/07/2001 11:57:05
    1. Re: [AMXROADS]"Rivers of the Eastern Shore"
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear John O, and Cousins on the List: He's the one, but he's not mine! just one I have looked up. At one time before my brain was completely fried, I did correspond with a lady who descended from him, who lived in Maryland. One of our Marilyns may know. Also, our Cousin Georgia has Grubbs, too. P. S. thanks for the tombstone picture. I forwarded it to Georgia Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

    03/07/2001 03:59:50
    1. [AMXROADS] Traders, etc.
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear HERMAN! and Cousins on the List: Those traders were fabulous. I had read the Lancaster stuff re Cresap, and incorporated it in the Cresap part of my Cecil county essay I had originally written. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Homecoming/cecil.html Continuing along the Potomac, (aren't we?) this time on the Maryland side, I am doing some similar things with Christopher Gist and the Ohio Company. I have documents from the book "George Mercer Papers Relating to the Ohio Company," which gives the original source for Christopher Gist's date of death. p. 611 Annotation #513 "Christopher Gist died of smallpox 'on the road from Williamsburg' to Winchester, on July 25, 1759 -- Captain James Gunn to John Tulleken, July 31, 1759, British Museum Additional Manuscripts, 21644, f. 266; printed in the Bouquet "Papers," 21644, pt I, pp 216-17. A terribly irony to die of smallpox, which as I remember he got from the Indians he was assisting. Also I looked at some webpages some time ago on Early Settlers of Washington County, (MD) and tried to refind them a couple of days ago: many of you will find them interesting. Charles Friend, two Bealls, Robert Wells ---- and Larkin Pierpont for you two Maineacs! This page contains a HUGE plat map, and 10 indices of early deeds. http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/MD/washington/plats/platmap.html One of George Beall's properties, "Beall's Chance" was purchased by William Boone, the founder of Boonesboro, MD, along with his brother George Boone. William Boone was the son of William Boone and Sarah Lincoln, and was married to Susanna Parks, another surname I search in conjunction with Smith. (The Smiths were connected to the Ohio Company, and the Patton/Preston family of Augusta County, VA.) Arthur Hopkins has put up a page about his kith and kin, and includes these pages on William Boone. http://www.coinet.com/~arthopkins/wboone.htm You might want to take a look at the American Crossroads page on the Boones, created (with permission) from the information Bill Scroggins submitted to the USgenweb on this family. It also takes a long time to download (mea culpa!). I need to rework it to make it load faster. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Boone/index.html Happy Trails! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

    03/07/2001 03:45:07
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] CORRECTION
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Jim, and Cousins, I didn't realize Edward was ACTUALLY a surveyor. I thought that was one of those Titles in Name Only! He was called the Surveyor General, I think, for Penn's new government. Yes, he was unfortunate, in coming here and only living such a short time. His (yours) is one of the most interesting lineages. I am interested in your Stephenson connections in this line, because there are continued Stephenson connections with the Penningtons in Maryland. The Stephensons were connected with land development and were in the thick of re-settlements wherever they went. They seem to be connected in ways yet unknown to Abraham the Trader, at least by locality, and later with the mysterious Josias whose mill was on the Jones Falls in the heart of Baltimore. Josias was the son-in-law of Jonathan Hanson, another land speculator (and whose family were the owners, along with John Coles, of what would become Baltimore.) They came out of New York, married heavily with the Jennings sisters at Burlington, and owned property around Baltimore too. Then they get hazy. I don't accord significance to the "nn" or "n" business in Pennington because it does not seem to have any insofar as the root family goes, or perhaps I should say, the blood relationships. In general it was written at the whim of the writer, even though your particular brand seems to have written themselves down with one "n." Also, it makes it difficult to find them in any computer or internet searches, so I use "nn" generically. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

    03/06/2001 04:16:57
    1. Re: [AMXROADS]"Rivers of the Eastern Shore"
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. >Hulbert Footner's "Rivers of the Eastern Shore" 1944 -17 Md Rivers >I have hunted this book to review the Sassafras and Bohemia Rivers,and to >retrieve Footner's quote,page 358. "I have determined to omit the Elk [River] >because >people of that neighborhood have little connection with the Eastern Shore." >Footner's says Head of the Elk was on the main route between north and South, >and devoloped a difdferent culrute than the Eastern shore,which is remote,on >a side way. >Henry Bennington m a Harris lived just west of the Susquehanna in Harford Co. >Indeed, my wife's Alexander Hill and Jacob Giles posted his 1740 estate bond. >Jacob Giles owned,among others,"Brotherly Love". Dick Mattson will tell you >how his Wm Loftin,and a Wm Logsdon, owned a tract named "Brotherly Love'. >1751,O'DELL,ON 212,says a Wm Loftan adjoined Abraham Pennington,near >Berryville,Md. Pg 124 O'dell, Wm Loftan gave Moses Teague power of attorney >to sell land on the Chesapeake in OLD Baltimore Co,Md . 1750's? >Wm Teague,of Baltimore Co,MD SOLD ,171`4,ABRAHAM, PENNINGTON ,OF CECIL CO,160 >A AT HEAD OF A BRANCH OF cONEWINGO EAST OF THE SUSQUHANNA. P 125 O'dell. Hi Herman, and cousins! I'm attempting to keep up with Herman, and get the rest of the pages up! Not sure I'll make it. Herman, the idea I'm going to harp on for awhile, is to keep an open mind when we look at secondary sources, and remember even if they are excellent which ODELL IS! (I think it's the best genealogy and history I've come across in many years, and of the same caliber and reliability as the Kegley books of SW Virginia. My highest praise!) The point is when someone injects a qualifier into a record such as Odell did in calling Catherine Pennington Abraham's "second wife," he inflicts an identity there which may start, or keep us thinking about those people in a straight-jacket way. We won't find answers for these travellers if we look at them in traditional ways. I find it best not to inject these kinds of qualifiers into the records without including the reasons why I think it is correct. For instance, calling the generations in a lineage JR, SR, etc. inflicts a parental and generational bias which simply may not be there. AND there is another problem. Abraham JR, for example might not be junior to Abraham SR! In Cecil County, among the Sassafras River Penningtons, a Henry Jr. (he was always called Henry Junior in the records, it was not injected by a researcher) was thereupon put into defective lineages as being son of Henry who d. 1702. When Henry Jr. had the Buntington Resurvey done, his survey clearly states that he was the son of Robert who d. 1709. Robert (will prob. 1709) and Henry (will prob. 1702) were brothers, and sons of the first Henry. To get back to ODELL, the point is this: We need to be imaginative when we examine these people and not think of them in stereotypical ways, especially not in stereotypical ways injected by others. This is what the mindless cloning of each others' gedcoms does, and it wipes out any ability to straighten out the kinks in the chain. I think Abraham Pennington was born about 1675, married a Mary, who was dead before he left Cecil County, because he states he is "solely seized" of his properties when he sold them. I don't think he remarried. I think that Mary was likely Swede/Finn and/or Quaker connected. I think his son Abraham was the person principally mentioned in the Frederick County records. I believe this son Abraham with wife Catherine went on to SC and died there in 1756, and brothers Isaac and Jacob went there with him, and they died in about the same time frame. Although Thomas Cresap, that fiesty old frontiersman, lived a long long life, most of the people in this era did not. I don't think Abraham the Trader did. His brother John died in 1739, (will prob. Sept) and we know Abraham was likely still alive then because he was to receive 5 pounds from John's estate. I hope to get some of this up today! I am quite interested in your locale, Herman. (Also Cousins Dick and Iz lived there quite awhile, and still have a son there.) My great-grandfather William Marion Pennington, b. 1852 (son of Marion Loveless/Lovelace Pennington; grand-son of John Penington of the War of 1812 from Reisterstown, Balto county) was born "near" Cincinnati from the family Bible, mis-read in many things, and now missing in action. I have yet to determine the county. His mother was Emily Williams. I have yet to determine WHICH Williams family. When those garbage trucks rumble by, try finding some info on them for me! Those Harford County Benningtons?? I think they were Penningtons! The E. Pennington, surveyor? Maybe Ephraim, of York county, d. ca. 1813, had son Timothy. (Possibly son of another Henry Pennington, and possibly the Ephraim who is mentioned in the George Washington papers during the Revolutionary War. There was an Elias floating around later in Harford county. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

    03/06/2001 03:59:26
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Penningtons in Center and Clearfield Co., PA
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Becky, and Cousins on the List, As far as I know, no one here is currently researching those Centre County Penningtons, but that may change soon. Our cousin Georgia and our Cousin John O. Pennington are both moving in directions with their families that may show Robert Pennington (who went to Centre County) connection. The best thing to do would be to make contact with Judith Pennington whose father Robert worked hard to determine the ancestry of Robert of Centre County, and was at one time President of the PRA, and a wonderful, kind, giving, considerate person. Robert (Bob) Pennington died three years ago, and the PRA couldn't even be bothered to write an acknowledgement of him. I would guess, from the locale of yours, that you might want to direct your research toward his. There was a great deal of work done on that family, a marker was placed in Potter township, etc. The research was done by a lady named Dora Hatley, who lived here in Oregon, along with Bob Pennington. There was quite a bit published in Pennington Pedigrees, but I don't have access yet to most of my copies (they're still packed up -- somewhere) due to moving for the last three months. I'll work on trying to find a way for you to contact Judith Pennington. She doesn't live that far from you, near Annapolis, MD, the last I heard about her. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://backcountrycrossroads.com

    03/06/2001 02:41:15
    1. [AMXROADS] Long Silence
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins on the List: I have been having severe problems with my local server. It takes me about 50 tries to get online, then I'm cut off -- sometimes immediately, sometimess before a message can be sent or received. It is a frustrating and irritating situation. I have been unable to upload files to the website because of being cut off all the time. I have arranged for new service, but before I could get it, my new DSL modem got lost, and finally when it got here I haven't been able to get it installed properly, and the tech help says I need a faster CPU! I have 166, and they say I need 200 for the modem to work. Well, I was stretching my budget to get the DSL service, let alone a new CPU. So this is what is going on. I am sorry for the silences, and hope to have things rearranged soon. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/06/2001 02:07:28
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Analyzing Records
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Herman, what I was saying, is that it is impossible to pin the culture down. That they were comprised from many backgrounds and areas of the Old World -- and that when they started migrating, they went to Virginia from a complex area, that they had been moving back and forth and around within a large perimeter whose boundaries were not confined with states and counties as we see them now. The boundaries were disputed and it was hard to tell where they were even when they stayed put, which they didn't! As Quakers, (called non-conformists and recuscants) in England, as Church of England, as Catholics, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and "heathens" they didn't fit into a mold either. I was not trying to make O'Dell seem error-ridden, for I believe that he (as I said) did an excellent job. I miscopied Largent myself from the MD archives, and I don't think that is a mistake, but a mis-interpretation of a letter that is written in a way that it can go either way. With Largent, it simply means that the name has been misinterpreted according to whomever has done the most research on it, and knows it. If it was further north in New England, for example, I would have been hard pressed to write it Largent, but now that we know better, we want to correct it. You may have hit on the key to the whole Pennington thing in that Graham-Stephenson marriage. But I'm too tired to dwell on it now. It's 3:30 in the AM and something woke me up. Love, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/06/2001 11:19:40
    1. [AMXROADS] Analyzing Records
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, As we continue to share records and pursue tantalyzingly elusive ancestors, we come to what I feel is the most critical element of the research: anlaysis of what the records mean. These backcountry families we're pursuing are unique. They do not fit into convenient little pockets with neat and tidy labels. They were NOT "Scotch-Irish" as has so often been proclaimed for the first large migration into the Valley of Virginia. They were NOT from Pennsylvania as has also been proclaimed. They were a melange, a real melting-pot of humanity. They were complex, and their research is complex. The researhc involves not only finding PRIMARY documents, but examining them with new vision: seeing trees in each forest. We have to keep remembering that this was a whole new culture in the making. These people, and their research will not fit into standard containers. They do not reflect one culture, simply moving from one locale to another. There are no pat, easy answers for them or their genealogy and history. They cannot be historically stereotyped (by works of history which ignore the genealogy) and they cannot be researched by genealogists which ignore their history. As we read George Washington's 16 year old commentary about the area where the first pioneers had come to settle, we can learn a great deal about them and their environment: The Germans and Indians mingling together there in Northern Virginia! The Penningtons and their crude frontier lifestyle! Harsh reallities of a harsh time for an aristocratic Boy/Man journeying into the mountains and adulthood. The way we can come to understanding of this unique culture is through the PRIMARY records for them and for their kinship groups, and interpreting these with historical perspectives. Odell's "Pioneers of Old Frederick County" is an excellently conceived and written, great resource for those of us still in the outback, but remember it is Odell's interpretation of those PRIMARY records. His book is a SECONDARY source. An example of this is his commentary, on Abraham Pennington's wife, Catherine, whom he ascribes as Abraham's second wife. Now this is where one man's opinion steps up to the plate to confront one woman's opinion standing out on the pitcher's mound, about to fire a hot one at him! I don't think Catherine was Abraham "The Trader" Pennington's second wife. I believe she was the wife of Abraham The Trader's son Abraham, who is known to have had a wife Catherine. I think the will of Abraham, written in 1755, probated in 1756 in SC is for the son, not the father. As we comb through the records and analyze them I think my thesis may be borne out. Another mis-identity in ODELL (I think) is the name Largent and the deeds referring to the Largent/Sergent etc. connections between the Pennington records in Cecil county and the ones in VA and SC. "Thomas Largent is a boy I brought up," is also mentioned in Abraham's 1756 will. The Sergeant's etc., are actually Largents, as evidenced by the descendants from Hampshire county who later moved to Ohio. I have one correspondent Randall Largent who is among these. Further records of these people are contained at the very wonderful Frederick County Virginia usgenweb site. Wilmer Kerns -- a local genealogist, has very generously put up the early Frederick tax records. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafreder/fredbook.htm#The%20Frederick%20Count y%20Fee (You will have to cut and paste this address, or go directly to the Frederick County page. You can create your own databases for analysis on these kinds of FACTS by copying data such as the Kerns list, plopping them into a spreadsheet such as MS Excel, and then adding comparative data from other sources. Timelines are great, but making timelines through use of data lists is even better, and easier, and you can always keep enhancing them to zero in on IDENTITY. These ideas will be expanded on in the Abe Study pages. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/06/2001 03:49:43
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Frederick Co VA
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Bill and Cousins on the List: This is just great stuff! It is not repetitive, for all! And I can recopy the actual extracts onto the pages. I am making the Abraham Study page with comparisons of the deeds, and the important things are the inclusions of the witnesses, and others who are mentioned within them. I think these comparisons will prove out my theory that Abraham the Trader's Identity has been merged with his son Abraham, who was the one who went on to SC. I'm interested in any reference to these Penningtons for the Abe study, and then we will show the links back and forth between locales. The other families will be handled essentially the same way, but within the specific pages -- in this case, starting with N VA and if there are known links and references to other areas, then we will show those as well. It might be best to send any lengthy information by attachment to my personal e-mail and then I can re-format it on the pages as I go. I found Hardin information near my Pennington/Pembertons in Carroll COunty, MD, and I think they are Harbins in Harrison County, OH with a Loveless Pennington whom I believe is incorrectly shown as a Female, and who is probably my great-great Grandfather. Take a look at my Kinship Page at American Crossroads: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Kinship/index That page needs a bit of updating. I wrote that I had never met many of the friends and relatives I have come to love dearly. But through my American Crossroads efforts I was able to meet Cousins John Orr Pennington, Ric Blake, and Sybil and Dick Coburn in January, and it has meant so very much to me. I hope before long we will be able to start arranging and planning for similar AMERICAN CROSSROADS "Homecomings," as we reconnect with one another through discovery of our mutual ancestry and kinship. Thanks so much, Bill, this is wonderful help. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/05/2001 10:29:42
    1. [AMXROADS] New Pages
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, Two new pages are up, and after I take a nap, I will be getting two more edited and uploaded. The two that are operational are: George Washington Slept Here, which has been re-done and re-formatted, AND, the first page of the Abraham Pennington study. These in turn will have two linked pages of families of Northern Virginia, and the initial layout and analysis of the problems of Abraham Pennington's descendants lineages, starting with the new ideas I have about the earliest arrangement of Maryland Pennington families -- where I think Abraham Pennington came from, and how I believe his descendants and allied families fit into The Great Scheme Of All Things Genealogical. Now for that nap. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Potomac/GWslept.html http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Abestudy.index.html Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads ---

    03/05/2001 05:57:15
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Re: Abe Pennington+Lindsey's+Andersson's
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, This is very exciting to have this kind of coordination and sharing taking place. I've been dreaming of some of these things coming together for a long time. This is just wonderful. NOW all you have to do is buy all your future books on the new website, and I'll be able to keep American Crossroads going! Bill, your information on the families of Lydia King and Thomas Lindsay is just the kind of thing we need to do some comparisons of ages. It is my belief that Abraham the Trader was much older than previously thought, and that his identity has been confused and mixed in with his son Abraham. I've just written Rod Pennington a couple of days ago about the Abraham Study that I think needs to be done to start clarifying not just Abraham's family, but the other Maryland Penningtons as well. Further, I think we will find when we start detailing and tightening up identity for one, a whole host of other skewed identities also will fall into place. I think this is well demonstrated through the information sent over the last several days as we have begun sharing each family's information. So, although I call this the Abraham the Trader study, please remember that is a blanket term for the study of all these associated families. I think the "Abraham the Trader Study" can be an icon for the community and the era. I'm busy on the pages which will reflect the records I have collected, about him, and the Old Frederick county pioneers. (Our Cousin Dick Coburn's folks were there too! Dick is known as the husband of the woman who loaned me all the books.) If we learn about and interpret the history of these families and their interconnections we will soon be on our way to solve the identities of the later families in Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri and on and on. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

    03/04/2001 11:49:13
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Re: Abe Pennington+Lindsey's+Andersson's
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear HFAGLEY, Bill Trott and Cousins on the List, NOW we're getting somewhere! I haven't done the genealogy on the Lindsay's and the Andersons, but I am very interested in them because of their proximity to Abraham Pennington. Just yesterday I started a webpage to interpret these very people, AND Nathanial Dougherty, AND Christopher Beelor. Add in the Teagues, Thomas Johnson (who is likely connected to my Watts and Markham families), George and John Hardin, and attempt to unscramble the Multiple Williams, Bakers, and Davises, and we will have a Beginning! Charles Anderson (and/or a variety of Andersons who seem to be of him) figured prominently in the Pennington family after they moved to South Carolina, where they had a fort in the vicinity of the Enoree and Tyger rivers. I think it is likely that Charles Anderson was of the Swedish family of Christopher Mounce/Mounts Anderson, who is one of those who broke out of the patronymic system, but in doing so, confused things even more. Some of the descendants used Mounce or Mounts, and some used Anderson without the qualifying name in the middle. I think Mounce/Mounts was (like Hance) the interpretation of Mons or Mans (with the little o over the vowel.) Go back to your well-worn copy of PSC's "Swedes on the Delaware," and check out his information on the Mounce's etc.; he doesn't get into the Anderson connection with Christopher. There are good records at Maryland Archives (online) on Naturalizations, and I have a page that maybe someday I will find the time to get put up on all of them, and their connections. Axel Stille, Otho Othoson, Mathias Mathiason (als Freeman) Hendrickson, etc., -- many many of the Swede/Finns and others. Often an Old Country location is given, and sometimes a birthplace. Bill, this is a real good book and wonderful information you've come up with. I need to study what you've written and do some comparisons. I'm just getting ready to do a beginning study on Abraham the Trader. Keep it coming! Great work! Go Team! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: HFAGLEY@aol.com <HFAGLEY@aol.com> To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Re: Abe Pennington+Lindsey's+Andersson's >I'm looking at my well worn copy of Cecil O'Dell's "Pioneers of Old >Frederick Co,Va" at Abraham Pennington,of the Berryville,Va area, >"and" his neighbors. The names of several of his neighbors have been >mentioned an AMXROADS-L recently. Let me ask about 2 other neighbors >who also migrated to SC . The Lindsey's,and the Anderson's. A dear friend is >from >an Edmund Lindsey,who was paret of a SC->SW Ohio COLONY. Edmund married >Barbara,of my own Fisher's. Edmund settled near Hezekiah Lindsey,who migrated >via >sw of Pittsburg,Pa to sw Oh. Hez's daus m Elijah Mattox,Jesse Swem,Jousha >Brown,and Barbara Fisher's brother,John. >2nd,my wife's from John Anderson,of Charles. I think Berkley Co+ Cecil >Co,Md's indian trader,Charles Anderson, was father of Charles Anderson,of >very sw Pa > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/04/2001 07:45:26
    1. [AMXROADS] Re: HANCE surname origins?
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Hi Richard, This is just my idea, but I think "Hance" was simply another interpretion and variation on Hans. When they wrote it, it was sometimes Hans, sometimes Hance, sometimes Hanson. The name Hans could be Scandanavian, or Dutch, maybe even Germanic. When they were in one spot a usual means of interpretion seemed to take hold for specific individuals, but let them move to where there were new interpreters writing it, and it became something else. For instance, I found Hukil (a Dutch name) was usually written Hukil or Hukill in the Cecil County Maryland records, but when Hukill Guilder moved to Frederick county, Virginia he was known as Huckle Guilder. But he's the same guy from Cecil county! To determine and verify the correct origins in specific cases, deeds are an excellent resource, and then follow up with corroborative records. The Maryland archives are putting their (printed) published records online, which is referred to as Archives of Maryland. You might want to check that out. I found a case involving Peter Hance, referred to as a Dutchman in VOl 65, and in the same proceeding he is called John Hance. Maybe just a slip on the pen on the part of the clerk. Then there are records in VOl 54; p29 in which "Hans Hanson, my oldest sonne" is bound over to Joseph Weekes," by an impoverished widowed mother. In Vol 65; p 512 Hance Hanson, "of Kent County," is summoned by Robert Wells in a lawsuit, which may be the same Hans Hanson. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/homepage/html/refserv.html -----Original Message----- From: Richard D. Reddick <rreddick@tcsn.net> To: cmacdee@centurytel.net <cmacdee@centurytel.net> Date: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: HANCE surname origins? >Carolyn: >Son of Hans statement gets me to thinking: >Any opinion as to the origin of the surname "Hance?" >All indications point to Scandinavian/Germanic, although >some say English/Irish (but not before about 1700). >I read in an L.A. newspaper genealogy column that >"Hans, Hantz and Hance" were from Dutch-speaking lands. >Thanks for your opinion. >Richard > >

    03/03/2001 10:57:38
    1. [AMXROADS] Van Winkle OR Walling; Hanson, et al
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, The most interesting (and most terribly mind-bending) genealogical study of backcountry people comes from the variants that evolved as each group of persons tried to blend into the greater body of settlers. In examining early deeds and comparing them with Peter Stebbins Craig's "The 1693 Census of Swedes on the Delaware," I have been trying to come up with some additional clues as to who was whom. The Van Winkles, who have been allied with my Watts family over a couple of centuries used the name Walling, but appended the Van Winkle ("from Winkle" in Holland) to it in early times and thus became simply Van Winkle later. Some are therefore found with both in early times i.e., "Jacob Walling Van Winkle" or some stubborn ones "Jacob Walling," and some, "Jacob Van WInkle." Keep in mind, all nomenclature refers to the same family. As these families took hold and grew, the variants kept changing. There are Wallers in Virginia whom I have speculated might well have been Van Winkles. They were in the same areas of interest where the Watts and other migrants located in Virginia, but this may simply be coincidence. Alley is another (possibly) Dutch allied family of the Van Winkles, found both in in the Delaware River Valley as well as SW Virginia, and seems to have also been spelled Ailing, and Alling. Jim Van Winkle's pages contain some interesting commentaries on the history and the genealogical connections of these early settlers: http://www.wgn.net/~jimvw/index.html http://www.wgn.net/~jimvw/geneolgy/settle.html One of the multi-named families that particularly intrigue me is that of Jonathan Hanson whose real estate speculations (along with the Cole(s) family produced the area of what is now Baltimore City. A couple of generations later this family became allied with Josias Pennington who is the "elite" part of the Maryland Penningtons. Jonathan Hanson's was Quaker, and his ancestry is shown in several sources (Barnes' "Baltimore Families," for one as Timothy of Philadelphia, with wife Barbara. Timothy is shown in Hinshaw's Quaker Encyclopedia, but little else is revealed about him. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Josias/index.html There is a Timothy Hanson who appears in the records of Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, and the following record from Duck Creek MM ("Vital Records of Kent and Sussex Counties Delaware 1686-1800" by F. Edward Wright, yes THAT Mr. Wright!) shows the confused and confusing relationships and ties that ensue from the backcountry culture families: "Barbary Hanson, mother to Timothy and Samuel Hanson Jenkins and Mary Barrat died 11-6-1718, and bur - 8 - by Little Creek Meeting House Kent County." (Kent County, DE) There are a variety of other records for both TImothy Hanson, Samuel Hanson Jenkins, Samuel Hanson (whose identity seems to be that of Timothy's son) and for Jabesh Jenkins (who seems to be a son of Samuel Hanson Jenkins). The given names of Jonathan, Timothy, Samuel, Thomas and William appear in these Hanson/Jenkins families, along with the wild card Jabez/Jabesh. None of the Delaware Jonathans is early enough to be the Jonathan Hanson of Baltimore fame. I have speculated he is a brother of Timothy and Samuel Hanson Jenkins, and that Barbary was his mother as well. He may be unnmentioned because he was disowned, or simply because he was not residing in the Duck Creek and Little Creek areas. Further complication regarding the Hansons comes from the name being confused with English Hansons, who produced a later, famous JOHN Hanson in the Maryland Revolutionary times, and in the Delaware area, the Hanson surname is a patronymic for "Han's son," which John Hance/Hans Steelman used. He is shown as #142 in Dr. P. S. Craig book: "John Hansson Steelman the eldest son of Hans Mansson and Ella Stille." There are simply too many of these to adequately describe them via e-mail, and I will be putting them on the website. This goes to the very heart of establishing identity, and are quite fascinating and quite mind boggling. John Hans Steelman functioned at the Indian village of Sahakito, which became Elkton, the county seat of Cecil County. His property there is being restored. There is great information about him and the Hollingsworths as well at the Historic Elk Landing Organization site: http://www.elklanding.org/ Love, Your Swedish-Addled Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/02/2001 07:58:17
    1. [AMXROADS] Cecil Co,Md< w Philadelphia
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. The migration to the Upper Potomac was also heavily Quaker, as it was to every frontier area. Steelman died in the area of Adams county. HFAGLEY@aol.com wrote: > > There was a migration to the Upper Potomac from,roughly,Harper's Ferry > WEST,IN THE late 1720's..They formed a turkey-foot-some down the n > Shenadoah,and some west on the Potomac,and some north up the Antedium. > Actually,Steelman and Friend were earlier,but about Fairfield,now Adams > Co,Pa-Md line. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    03/02/2001 06:19:09
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Cecil Co,Md< w Philadelphia
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. John Wheeler was a Brit, however, and a soldier. Maybe it was the soldier business that (possibly) made him an unfit husband! What is interesting is that this divorce took place in the 17th century. Each (possibly) had early childhood and young adulthood separation and abandonment issues. Maybe he John Pennington, the brother of Abraham the trader, was married to a woman named Sequence, who also may have had Swede/Finn connections. I've tried in vain to find a variant for that name. The "ence" or "ance" ending is sometimes substituted for "ants" and/or "ents" and I've looked through Peter Stebbins Craig's book (Thank you Isabel for the loan of it -- okay, I'm putting a cork in it after this) in vain for a suitable name beginning with "S" and haven't found anything. There is a Syberants, and I thought MAYBE I had misinterpreted the "Seq" in Sequence for "Sy" in Syberants, but its quite a reach. Easier done if one's had a few! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn . >Swedes drank. What else is news? >

    03/02/2001 06:14:09
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Cecil Co,Md< w Philadelphia
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear HFagley, and Cousins, I think Otho Othoson may have come from either the Otters, or the Garrettsons. His father was Garret Othoson. I believe he likely was connected to many of the families you mention. Trying to figure them out is difficult even with an excellent interpreter like Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig. But here is what we know, applying the theory of relativity (!) John Wheeler was English but married to a Swedish woman. She divorced him in 1674, as indicated in an indenture recorded among the Cecil county Land records, which I extracted Lo! these many years ago: 1674 CECIL WHEELER Land Record Book 1 Folio 72 MARY WHEELER lately counted wife unto JOHN WHEELER, planter, of Cecil Ccounty due disowne him as my husband in all respects till Death Departs and that I [and] my heirs have nothing to demand upon any account or interest whatever from the said JOHN WHEELER SENIOR or his heirs. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seall this 23 Oct 1674. SSDip JOHN GILBERT and SAMUEL (h.m.) WHEELER. s/MARY (h.m.) WHEELER. Examined by SWITHIME WELLES, Clk. 1674 CECIL John WHEELER Land Record Book 1: Folio 72 JOHN WHEELER, SENIOR, Cecil County, planter to dear and well beloved son JOHN WHEELER, JUNIOR for divers good causes and reasonable consideration, all of Wheelers Point, my now dwelling plantation on E. Side of Chesapeake Bay on N. side of Sasfras River on Wheelers Creeke, 250 A. SSDip EDWARD JONES; GEORGE HORBOY. Exam. by Swithime Welles, Clk. 1676 CEC IL JOHN WHEELER; Land Record Book 1: Fol. 82 JOHN WHEELER of Sasafrax, planter to Nicholas Allome, planter for cons. 10,000 lbs. tobacco all that land called Wheelers Point on E. side of Chesipeck Bay on N. side of Sasafrax River on Wheelers Creek. 250 A. SSDip Eli William; _____ Eldersley. x/John Wheeler (his mark, a circle with spokes) Pres. Augustin Harman; Joseph Hopkins. Rec. 20 Mar 1676 Swithime Welles, Clk. and then, 1704 25 Dec OTTORSON, Otho and MATTHIASON, Mary, widow were married by license by Mr. Richard SEWELL, St. Stevens Into the Cecil County Garrettson, Wheeler, Othoson stew are thrown Hendrick Mattison / Matson, who anglicized himself as Freeman. the Seversons/Seffersons, Clawsons, Hanson, Williams, Johnson, Evert Evertson, and on and on. The association between Abraham Pennington and John Hance Steelman (and variants), who were both Indian Traders, is established by several Abraham deeds that John Hance Steelman witnessed both in Cecil County and Frederick County, MD. Israel Friend, another Indian Trader, was also from this same Swede/Finn origin. Additionally, there is an unidentified John Pennington listed among the Swede/Finns in another Delaware River list in 1693. This 1693 Tax record and another one for 1697, are among archived records at the New Castle County website on the USGenweb. This John is in the right place and the right time to be the father of Abraham and his brother John of Northeast, in Cecil County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/de/newcastl.htm The general belief among Pennington researchers has been that Abraham (and therefore, his brother John) was born about 1690. I have felt he was older than that, because his brother John's will was probated in Cecil County in the 1730's. I recently found Abraham's Cecil County patent of his plantation seat of Greenbury in 1695, which renders a whole new approach to his identity, which I feel has been intermeshed with his son Abraham. I believe that the patents in Frederick County Virginia reflect his son Abraham. This Swede/Finn aspect of the backcountry people is vital to the identity of the many descendants who ended up in the south, midwest and west in the 1800's. I really appreciate your comments and interest, and hope that we can begin untangling the early mysteries of these wonderfully intriguing and interesting families. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

    02/28/2001 02:38:53