Dear Cousins, I am so excited I can hardly type! Last fall I applied for a scholarship from GENTECH, Inc. which is the organization devoted to improvement and excellence in Genealogical technology. I am a real bug about this, as you all know. I didn't know I had won until tonight. I thought the scholarships had gone to someone else. This is a very great affirmation of American Crossroads, and I'm enclosing Mr. Sharbrough's e-mail to me so that you all -- my kinship group! can share in this. Love, Your Grateful Cousin, Carolyn Dear Carolyn, Thank you for your application for a GENTECH Scholarship. I am pleased to announce that a GENTECH Scholarship has been awarded to you. It is a credit to you for the work and creativity that you have shown. Usually the award would have been made at our conference in January. This year I had to chase the sponsors longer, so I was not able to confirm the award at the preferred time. However, we have gotten the details squared away now and I'd like to move ahead as follows. The National Genealogical Society is holding their annual conference in Portland OR 16-19 May, 2001 at the Oregon Convention Center (777 NE Martin Luther King Jr Blvd). There is a GENTECH-sponsored luncheon at 1145am on the 16th, presumably at the Convention Center. GENTECH is offering you a complimentary registration for that conference. I would like for you to attend the GENTECH luncheon as our guest, there to receive a certificate recognizing your accomplishment and the first $500 of your award. We would expect you to continue to work on the project described in your application, and to continue to progress in your school work. In January of 2002, we will pay your expenses to attend the GENTECH 2002 conference in Boston, MA. You will present a 20 minute talk about your project during the "Tech Sessions" on Thursday of the GENTECH conference. At the GENTECH Banquet on the Friday night of that conference, you will be awarding a certificate to a GENTECH Scholar from the next year. Again, Carolyn, thanks for your application, and congratulations on your elevation to the status of GENTECH Scholar. Sincerely, Beau Sharbrough President, GENTECH Inc. PS. Please let us know about your acceptance of the NGS conference registration that we're offering - we'd like to fill out the paperwork right away. Thanks!

Barb, Thank you ! The surnames are Wilcox (RI) and Gillet (CT). Richelle

Dear Richelle, I thought your message was clear and well-written. I have only one question though. What are the surnames of those two families you mentioned? Barb Temple

Dear Josie and listmembers, I have to be sure to clarify that when I said I had read that the Iroquois helped the Quakers in Upstate New York, this was more a query than a statement because I have no idea if it is true or where I read it. So take it with a grain of salt till we can find more evidence that it was actually a fact. I'll keep looking and post if I find anything to support the information. Sorry. Thanks for the kind words, Josie, and when I'm looking for stuff on Bedford, Co.VA, I'll keep an eye out for your Whitely's and Maynard's. Barb Temple

In Bedford Co. VA, I am searching for the surname of my gggm Elizabeth A. ? m. to Francis L. WHITELY b 1814 in Bedford, son of Wm Whitely & Millie Haynes who are listed as married in Quaker vol 6. on ancestry.com. It would be something if she turned out to be Mohawk? never thought of that. There was a Samuel Whiteley who Doris Estes pub. book of his line (over 16,000 Whiteley's) who is found married to Indian and lived in Jackson Co. AL for a few years in 1830s then moved on to Arkansas, Texas. So far I have not connected to this Sam Whiteley, and do not know what tribe his MAYNARD wife was from. thanks for your interesting info. josie At 04:00 AM 4/5/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hi folks, >I was thinking of perimeters and immigration patterns and one of my old >mysteries popped into my head. I had put it on hold some time back. My >Mom always said, insisted, that her Dad told her that the oral tradition >passed down from his mother was that her family came from Canada to >Upstate New York down thru PA westward down thru Ohio and ultimately to >Illinois. My Great-Grandmother who was the source of this information is >first found in Pulaski Co.KY but several of her children listed her >birthplace as Illinois on several different Censuses. Also, some of her >children's death certificates listed her birthplace as Illinois. Her >father and mother married in Pulaski Co.KY in 1830, their dau. was born >ca. 1832--1833. Her mother died, and her father remarried in 1836 in >Wayne Co.KY near Pulaski Co. Her mother's family were Martin's who had >been Quakers. They did come from PA. I find this on Moses Martin's RW >Pension Application at the Sons of the American Revolution Library in >Lou.KY. > >l have wanted, since I was a child, to find something on my Mohawk >heritage. As an adult, I thought it might help to trace their migration >from Canada on downward. That has proven harder than I expected. I have >these Martin's in PA and the Pension Appl. states that Moses said he >moved his family from VA down to TN and up into KY. I can't figure out >how Illinois figures in. I have one clue, one Census says that my Gr-GM >was born in Missouri. I wondered if she was born near where the 3 >states, KY-MO-IL meet. This is not too far from where the Ohio and >Cumberland Rivers meet and the Cumberland leads to Pulaski Co.KY. I must >also state that my Moses Martin was b. in Bedford Co.VA per his Pension >Appl., >in 1755. So how could they migrate westward as Mom said, yet be in VA in >1755. > >I read somewhere that the Iroquois Indians were friendly with Quakers in >Upstate New York and helped protect them during the RW. Does anyone have >any information on this? > >Mom said that Grandpa told her a number of family stories like this one, >because his Mother said that it was the Mohawk way, to pass on family >history orally. Mom said he was telling her the stories because she was >interested and would pass it on to her child or children who would be >most likely pass it on. That was me in our family. So it seems like my >Martin's went two ways, southwest to Illinois and southward to VA. I >have a conflict here. Any suggestions? > >Barb Temple > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog ___________________________________________________________________ josiebass@zxmail.com 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 Home of the *HARRISON* Repository http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/ My Southern Family WWW: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/ LINDSAY & HARRISON Surnames & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List GENCONNECT: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Data Managed by beautiful daughter Becky Bass Bonner and me, Josephine Lindsay Bass

Dear Carolyn and fellow listers: I have only been researching my family for six months and joined this list to learn more about migrations. When I started the research, I was searching for two family lines who ended up in Ohio. I had a few pieces of information, a few names, some birth years and states, a (possible) maiden name or two. As I searched websites for the different surnames in the respective states, I began to notice patterns with names. For example, the family names from Rhode Island showed up in different areas of New York State than the family names from Connecticut to New York State. I began looking for web sites with migration patterns, but didn't find very much. So I just kept searching through states and counties, trying to identify patterns. Searching for names and connections to names that I knew for certain had settled in my Ohio location, I came upon another family that had my surname of interest through two marriages. After some time, I was connected to a cousin who has also been researching one family ... only to discover that through the traditional records, the family I had found was already well-documented, and indeed did settle in my Ohio location. At first, I felt stupid because the work had already been done and in the acceptable method; but I now realize that I was on the right track with the migrations idea....I found the same information by following the family migration. I still have not been able to document the actual family I am looking for, but I believe if I keep studying the migrations and naming patterns, I will. All I know is they started in Rhode Island, passed through New York and settled in Ohio. But I believe part of this research will be studying the Holland Land Purchases and Beekman Patents, reasons why people moved into Ohio and evolution of county and state borders. Once I identify specific locations, I believe I can locate source documents. If anyone can point me in the direction of sources of info on migrations from Rhode Island through New York to points west, preferably Ohio, I would appreciate it. In the meantime, I am really enjoying American Cross Roads. I hope this was intelligible !! and forgive me, if in my "newness", I sound naive. Richelle

Welcome to the list, you will find lots of good ideas for furthering your research in this group. I seldom post because I always seem so busy, but I read everything that is sent to the group. You certainly did not sound naive to me. I have been doing family research for 30 years and still make some big boo boos. Currently I am in the process of transcribing some old Quaker marriage records and posting them to the Southern Lancaster County Historical society web site. If I can be of any help, feel free to ask. Carolyn does such a wonderful job with this web site and she should be commended highly for taking on this project. It is really a big under taking Marilyn

Hi folks, I was thinking of perimeters and immigration patterns and one of my old mysteries popped into my head. I had put it on hold some time back. My Mom always said, insisted, that her Dad told her that the oral tradition passed down from his mother was that her family came from Canada to Upstate New York down thru PA westward down thru Ohio and ultimately to Illinois. My Great-Grandmother who was the source of this information is first found in Pulaski Co.KY but several of her children listed her birthplace as Illinois on several different Censuses. Also, some of her children's death certificates listed her birthplace as Illinois. Her father and mother married in Pulaski Co.KY in 1830, their dau. was born ca. 1832--1833. Her mother died, and her father remarried in 1836 in Wayne Co.KY near Pulaski Co. Her mother's family were Martin's who had been Quakers. They did come from PA. I find this on Moses Martin's RW Pension Application at the Sons of the American Revolution Library in Lou.KY. l have wanted, since I was a child, to find something on my Mohawk heritage. As an adult, I thought it might help to trace their migration from Canada on downward. That has proven harder than I expected. I have these Martin's in PA and the Pension Appl. states that Moses said he moved his family from VA down to TN and up into KY. I can't figure out how Illinois figures in. I have one clue, one Census says that my Gr-GM was born in Missouri. I wondered if she was born near where the 3 states, KY-MO-IL meet. This is not too far from where the Ohio and Cumberland Rivers meet and the Cumberland leads to Pulaski Co.KY. I must also state that my Moses Martin was b. in Bedford Co.VA per his Pension Appl., in 1755. So how could they migrate westward as Mom said, yet be in VA in 1755. I read somewhere that the Iroquois Indians were friendly with Quakers in Upstate New York and helped protect them during the RW. Does anyone have any information on this? Mom said that Grandpa told her a number of family stories like this one, because his Mother said that it was the Mohawk way, to pass on family history orally. Mom said he was telling her the stories because she was interested and would pass it on to her child or children who would be most likely pass it on. That was me in our family. So it seems like my Martin's went two ways, southwest to Illinois and southward to VA. I have a conflict here. Any suggestions? Barb Temple

Hello, I hope these interest someone out there or helps in some way. 1. If you acquire information from someone else, ask if you may pass it on, and whether the person wants their name attached to the data. If they say no, don't do it. If you then go out to the record repositories, i.e. courthouse, etc, and find it yourself with documentation, you can then compile that info and attach your name as the researcher. If the first person had helped you out and didn't mind having their name used, credit their contribution. 2. Don't send family trees to individuals or most especially not to lists, unless you have good documentation. It is common on lists today to see good people send family lists with a disclaimer at the top or bottom, stating that the data is not proven. It is a rare researcher who will remember that, once they see what they have been looking for, even if it turns out not to be true. They are well intentioned, just busy and hopeful. 3. If you send bits of data to anyone, send the documentation along with it. That way, you can decide if the documentation is adequate, and they can decide if it is adequate to them. Each is responsible for the documentation of their own data. If you receive data with no documentation, don't use it and don't share it. Try to find documention to prove it, and then share both. If you can't, share it only with close buddies, and make sure they feel as you do about preserving the data recorded on the old records. 4. Since we all receive a lot of data that is not documented, just save it until you or someone else comes up with documentation to prove it. Since it often gives clues as to where the true data exists, and you want to share that, just make sure to label it prominently as "go-with" data, not to be used as proven. Write that all over it. Of course, if you are the recipient, treat it as the sender indicated, just for clues. 5. Don't put a person or a fact into your primary family file on one of the gen. programs, unless you also record the source with all the information you have, to allow anyone reading it to go straight to the source to verify the data. For instance, if you say 1850 Census or 1850 Census of Pulaski County, KY, the reader must duplicate your own work in order to verify your data. Give the E.D., the household #, the township, etc. Help out a fellow researcher. We'll all have more time to break down brick walls with the time saved. You can always start any number of "working" files to use until you have enough evidence to move a fact or person over to your primary file. This is only my own method and others have found similar methods that work for them. 6. Think long and hard before submitting your gedcom to an internet site, free or paid. Choose one that allows you to update your data when needed. If you do otherwise, your data will end up misleading others, being attributed to you, and you won't be able to do a thing about it. 7. If you find inaccurate information attributed to me, be kind, and think that it is probably some of that early work and very outdated. I will be grateful. Thanks, Barb Temple

Hello Carolyn and listmembers, Thanks, Carolyn, for the excellent discourse on effective research. Several thoughts went thru my mind as I read. One thought is that field researchers do a lot of work, spend a lot of hours, pay a lot of money, walk miles and miles of cemeteries and courthouses and other record repositories. This is for as long as the records last, and someday they will deteriorate, be stolen, be lost, and otherwise cease to be available. This will also last only so long as there are folks who are willing and able to make these sacrifices to get at that information. Here's my main point. After the field researcher does their part, doing their work and putting it all together as best they can, they usually share the product of their work with non-field researchers. These folks then circulate the data to others who then circulate it some more. This helps by utilizing the brainpower and resources of a large group of people to come up with credible conclusions on these mysteries of ours. In all these transactions, many times, esp. now with the internet, the data becomes corrupted. Sometimes it is still credited to, or blamed on, the original field researcher. Sometimes it has been claimed by a succession of folks who believe that since they "discovered" it on the internet, in a book, or from talking with other folks, that it is now theirs so their name gets attached. Sometimes someone adds their opinions as fact before passing it on. In any case, inquiring folks get shortchanged by incorrect data and this has all kinds of consequences for them. My guess is that a lot of this happens because documentation is not fun and is time-consuming. However, without it, one should never be thought of, or think of themselves, as genealogists. Someday, not too far off, this will be all we will have to use as documentation. It is imperative that folks who do know how to document, and those who care about the truth, use documentation effectively, and talk to other researchers about its importance. Some good folks like the thrill of gallopping with their information, adding, combining, and ultimately corrupting their own, and others' research. Fast is more fun. It reminds me of the play and movie, "The Little Shop of Horrors" where the plant keeps demanding more and more food from the hero, Seymour, "Feed me Seymour, feed me!". The plant isn't particular about what kind of meat he eats. Please note that I am not speaking of anyone or any particular family. I've been plagued by these realities for years now. I have found inaccurate files submitted on the internet on my families, checked the submitter's source and found they'd listed me. Huh? I didn't give folks permission to use that material or share it with anyone and now it is outdated with my name still attached. Always, the submitter is someone I have never talked with. That old junk is still making the rounds. I have some suggestions to make that would sure help me out a lot. Maybe others, too. But this is now too long so I'll start another message so anyone who is really getting bored, or out of time, can just delete the rest. I'll understand, folks do want to find actual genealogy info on these lists. Thanks, Barb Temple

Dear Richelle and Cousins on the List: Barb asked my next question! I have Gillett(es) myself, and the Wilcox(en) family is connected to the Boones, Penningtons, etc. The next questions are, where in Ohio, and what are the time frames? Local History will tell you much about the settlers and the time frames will provide answers about the nature of the migrations. Yes, the Gilletts went to New York. Mine were allied with my Enos family who were French/Belgian Huguenots who immigrated first to England and then to Connecticut and into Rhode Island. I haven't made a study of the Gillets, but their name certainly suggests a French beginning. Common migration was into Ohio and Illinois via the Great Lakes and by foot, into the Western Reserve Lands. My Tucker and Emerson family are recorded in the county histories as making the overland treks. The Western Reserve Lands in Ohio were set aside for Connecticut soldiers. The newly formed United States gave land as a means of repaying their soldiers, and provided us with many wonderful records we otherwise wouldn't have. That's one of the few good things I see coming from the wars. Using Google.com and typing in "Western Reserve Lands," I found the following site: http://www.bway.net/~oldnews/wehavemail.htm This site begins by stating: "It's fascinating to see how Yankee families grew, migrated, married, built, diversified, and dispersed over two centuries of time. Also to discover how searching for roots has fostered an interest in American history among these family historians—and how the Internet is helping to carry their connections across both time and space." This is a fine sentiment. I couldn't have put it better myself. This site is maintained by a Day and Hoskin descendant whose family (like my Eno(s) family) settled in the Windsor/Simsbury area of Connecticut. Using the same Google search criteria, you will find dozens more sites, maps, and history about the Western Reserve, the Fire Lands, and the Ohio Company, all of which tell stories of early Ohio settlement by different perspectives. It sounds likely that you will find some soldiers of the Revolution or the War of 1812 and thereby some good individual information. Usgenweb.com is putting up lots of complete census information online. They have this included in the county archives, accessible either via the main usgenweb pages or through the individual counties. This is a marvelous help. You can also use their search engine by state, which yields up further actual data. Be careful of the non-data information. (not too much of this anymore at usgenweb.) I am writing an AMXROADS article for the website on the Ohio Company which was created by Virginians, and whose (first white) explorations were made by Christopher Gist. This will also address the Five/Six Nations (Onondaga, Mohawk, Oneida, Cayuga, and Seneca tribes, joined by the Tuscaroras in 1803), Joseph Brandt the great Indian Leader, the French and Indian War, the Wyoming Massacre in Central Pennsylvania, and settlement west of the Appalachians. Wow, great dialogues! Thanks Marilyn, and Barb, and Richelle. I agree, you don't sound naive at all. Keep letting us know what we can do to help. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To send a message to the American Crossroads List: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

Dear Barb and Cousins on the List: Thanks Barb, for your comments, and your dedication to the process. It is very disheartening to many people to find that ethical standards in the collection and dissemination of genealogy (which after all, reflects our family values) are not what they should, or even could be. We have to take our lumps and get back up on the horse. Don't beat yourself up with what other people do -- it only reflect who they are, not who you are. I find that the errors that we made when we were beginning are totally forgiveable. Last week I was delighted to have the opportunity to meet one of our cousins, Georgia, and she was despairing because with the enthusiasm of the beginning searcher she had submitted a gedcom that was almost all family memories, and she hadn't found the documentation for it. We've all done that, Georgia! And being thrilled over discovering our history and our families' part in it is a wonderful thing. Wanting to share it and progress further by finding cousin-searchers is wonderful too. We learn as we go. We make mistakes. We get better and make fewer mistakes. I still have things haunting me that I wrote up when I was beginning, and I still encounter them in others' gedcoms occasionally. It's embarassing, but I hope forgiveable, too. What is not so forgiveable are those who have their errors pointed out and still perpetuate them or argue that they are not wrong. Barb, your suggestions are great. From time to time I point out the standards of the National Genealogical Society which can be found at their website. (P. S. The NGS annual meeting is being held here in Portland this year. I can't afford it, but if anyone else can, please give me a holler -- I would just love to meet you if you attend.) I would also point out that there are just two types of records: Primary and Secondary. Very broadly put, primary records are those created at the time of the event. A deed, a will, a military discharge are examples. Secondary records are those created after the fact -- often books. Documenting the event requires proper citations of the primary or secondary source, as Barb points out. Merely stating "such and such book," is not a proper reference any more than saying "the 1850 Census," is. Giving authors, page numbers, is necessary for proper documentation. I know I've seen several hundred gedcoms that give the name of a person as a source. That's nice, but Dearhearts, it's not documentation. Thanks again Barb for your input, and your desire for quality, not quantity. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To send a message to the American Crossroads List: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

Dear Cousins, I raised a number of issues about re-evaluating identity, kinship, and relationship in my last e-mail. I used Penningtons as the focus of this identity crisis, because Penningtons have been at the heart of my research since I began looking up my families in 1969, and it has been the Pennington surname association's methods (and lack thereof) which raised my hackles enough to form American Crossroads. My point is, whether we are focusing on Penningtons or some other family, if they are part of the American Backcountry Culture that began in the Delaware Valley and moved south and west of the Appalachian mountains, they will have similar movement, be associated with the same perimeter localities, intermarry in the same families, and keep ranging south and westward in the same ways the Penningtons did. The methodology will be the same: History + Locality + Kinship = Identity. I believe that just as I was able to find information for Josie's families who are interconnected in northern Virginia, each Crossroads searcher will be able to find information on their surnames, using the same methodology. I got an answer from my pal Pete Pennington this morning, suggesting that maybe the many Levi Pennington answers/documentation do not exist in the records. Au contraire, mon cher ami/Cuz! I think it exists but we don't know where to look, and who to look for. This is at the heart and soul of creating American Crossroads as a means of applying new concepts of research to old genealogical problems. First, you have to understand the history of the region (and the people) in order to understand how to search for documents. Let's take the equation and apply it first to Old Frederick County, VA. History: Briefly, Frederick County was formed in 1734 from Orange, which was formed from Spotsylvania, etc. The original settlements were by some Germans led by the Stover family, the Quakers establishing Hopewell Monthly Meeting, and a land developing group led by Jost Hite with Isaac and John VanMetre. The Quakers' area was called Hopewell, and the area of Jost Hite and the VanMetres was referred to as Sherrando, (later written Shanandoah, after the River that defined the Watershed of the area.) My webpage about these Sherrando and Hopewell, along with the earliest patentees, is at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Migrations/virginia.ht ml Locality: First, the changes in the Virginia counties are enough to make someone go absolutely bonkers. (NC too.) One needs to examine the counties made before Frederick (Orange and possibly Spotsylvania) as well as counties made afterward in order to thoroughly search for records pertaining to Frederick County. Additionally, you have to keep in mind that the waterways were the key to migration and settlement. The Potomac River separated this section of Virginia from Maryland. The Maryland localities on the other side of the Potomac have to be taken into consideration when delving into the genealogy of people of this region. Online, visit the genweb pages for each of the counties involved and follow their suggestions for links and online resources. Remember to check counties that were formed later from Frederick county. These too can be found at the Migrations/virginia page. You may find where your family was is now in West Virginia. Also some VA records might end up in PA, NC, SC; or vice versa. There are great online mapping servers that can really help with this. Kinship: Only you will know the surnames and variants connected with the families you're searching for. But here is the tricky part. You have to know the history in order to know what surnames might apply, and you will have to learn to think up spelling possibilities that might apply to your kinship families. You will have to be clever in finding possibilities to develop as clues. When I first started searching I didn't consider Quaker relationships and I didn't use the LDS files and Family History Centers because I didn't believe I had any Quaker or Mormon relatives. Terrible Mistake! There's lots of information to be found in Hopewell records about families who settled in Frederick County. Similarly, look for surname variants in the usual records and in Mormon records. Kinship and Variants: One Virginia searcher I wrote to about Pennington/Pembertons simply waved me aside saying their family never used that variant. Well, maybe their family didn't, but maybe the census taker did. Or the marriage records indexer did, or the county clerk, or the church recorder. Or maybe any of those fellas used Pendleton or Penton or Peninton or Piddinton, or any of a dozen other combinations. If you're searching on the internet -- with a search engine -- you will have to use each of those variants. I've also heard "one branch of the family started spelling it with one n, or two n's or adding an s," or some such. Well, usually it wasn't what the family chose, but what the person writing the record chose. I have found it written Pentinton, Penitant, Pennyton, even just Penny or Penn, and the record still referred to a Pennington. If you have access to a complete list, say an entire index rather than just the extracted names, you will be able to pick out possibilities. Don't forget to look in the B's, the D's and R's for Penningtons. You will be amazed to find Benningtons where Penningtons lived, Denningtons where the Penningtons lived, and Remingtons where the Penningtons lived. Each one may be Pennington after examining it further with clarifying information. The Largant family connected with Abraham Pennington is often indexed as Sargent. The Hyland family in Cecil county is confused with the Ryland family. Just remember always to follow up with further confirming records. This week I've been checking the book, "Colony of North Carolina 1735 to 1764, Abstracts of Land Patents, Volume One," by Margaret M. Hoffmann. Not one Pennington in it. Here's what I did find: Isaac Barrington 3641, 6997, Isaac Sr., 6943, 6997, Nathan, 5921; Mr. Parkeson 5816; James Parkinson 1125, 1132; Seth Pelkinton / Pelkington 4000 etc.; Edward Pemberton 910; Thomas Pendleton 1972; Thomas Pinson 6283, 6284; Linnington, George; 3837, 3838, 6380; William Crentonton 938; AND Allied or Other Kinship Families (with a gadzillion variants): Bell; Berry; Boone, Bonner; Crockett; Crouch; Davis, etc; Dick; Dunn; Elliott; Evans; Hogg; Hollingsworth; Holland; Keys; King; Lamb; Lane; Lewis; McDaniel, Morgan, Osborne Pearce/Pierce, etc., Thomas Odle 1252; Parsons, Parry/Perry; Phillips; Richardson, Roberts/Robards; Ross, Russell, Saltar, Sanders, Sheppard/Shepherd, Sikes/Sykes; Sims, Smith, Standley/Stanley; Stewart/Stuart; Swain/Swan, William Teague 4719, 4774, 4912, 5122, 5397, 5780; Tuley; Tyson; Watters/Watson/Wyat (no Watts); Whitle/Whitley, Wilcox/Wilcocks; Williams; Whorley, etc. I've looked over the Barrington records, and I am relatively sure that these apply to Penningtons. I haven't yet begun on the other likely ones. Cousins, this is what it means to research. When records of the history, localities, and kinship are interwoven together, I guarantee you will start finding your "longlost" ancestral identities within those interwoven results. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To send a message to the American Crossroads List: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

Hi Carolyn, Great stuff but, a lot to digest. I will save it to my filing cabinet, and print it out. Then I can review it later. I feel sure I have answers to some of the questions you posed, in my files. For one, Elizabeth, youngest child of Levi and Martha married Capt. Edward Beason, his first Wife. He later remarried but, Elizabeth kept the children and continued to live with Levi and Martha. She was disowned in 1881 because of the divorce. These were Questions in Item 2 of your Email. I have acquired all the back Issues of the Pennington Pedigrees, and now have all the issues that have been published since their beginning, by Bea Holmes of Borger, Texas. Bea was a friend of my Fathers oldest sister, Ouida Prince but that's another story. As time permits I will find documentation, if they exists, to questions you posed. I will check the many volumes and issues of the Pedigrees, and if listed. will share with you what I find. If I can see well enough to use my scanner, I will scan the pages to my computer, then forward them to you as an attachment to an email, Carolyn, the Lord really does His Work in wondrous and mysterious Ways. For some reason I had an urge to check the programs on my computer. After clicking start, then pointing to Programs, Accessories and then Accessibility, there was a program titled Magnifier. I clicked on it, and found a Magnifying Glass that fills the top of my Screen. The Magnification is adjustable to any power I desire and covers any area of the Screen that I point my curser to. No more hand help magnifying glasses for me, thank You Lord. As the predominant race says here, "Gracious" again for a Great Email I will get back to you soon, hopefully more than once before my next surgery. Love and Best Wishes Tom

Dear Cousin/Friends Tom, Mary, Leigh and Cousins on the list; Please print this out, otherwise I'm afraid it won't make any sense. I found the three Levi Pennington wills and other information that Bobby Pennington had posted in January to the PRA Group 6 Website Bobby maintains. I hadn't seen the wills or the SC Spartanburg information before. Nor had I known some of the other information which had Levi and Martha on Cumberland/Moore County NC deeds. Each Levi and his children are clearly identified in these wills. What isn't so clear is how other records attach to each of them, for instance the Quaker records, and here is where my own speculations/interpretations come in. 1. Have the Quaker records been misinterpreted, and/or mis-applied to Levi, Isaac, and Levi's son Levi? 2. The first assumption has been made that Martha b. 1714, d. 1800 was Levi the Quaker's wife. Let's start with an absolute fact and work outward. Instead of assigning Martha to Levi the Quaker/Levi I, let's once again rename Levi based on what we absolutely know about him: "Levi with wife Martha, who d. w/will dtd 1789, probated 1790." From his will we know this Levi had five surviving children: Isaac, Levi, Rachel, Elizabeth Beason, and Mary. The names correspond to the Quaker records for Rachel Perrry, Mary Grave, and Elizabeth. Elizabeth's certificate was withheld when Martha moved from Cane Creek MM to Center MM. From the will we know Elizabeth married a Beason, so the certificate may have been withheld because they were concerned with a proposed marriage to someone thought to be inappropriate. This could indicate Beason (or some hidden) relationships, and possibly confirm previous speculations (never indicated with reasons) that Martha was a Beason or someone closely related to the person Elizabeth was marrying. In 1780 Elizabeth is disowned, ostensibly for going through with this marriage. Which Beason did she marry? It needs to be determined. Was some Beason also disowned in 1780? We need to check and see. 3. Who was Sarah Barnes/Burns who was disowned for marrying a Pennington in Cane Creek MM records in 1774? It would seem she was a Quaker Barnes/Burns, and whatever Pennington she married was not. 4. Instead of calling the other Levi found in the Quaker records "Jr." let's also rename him as "Levi with wife Elizabeth who d. w/will in Spartanburg Co., SC in 1808. His children named in the will (undoubtedly all of his children, for he had a ton of them.) He terms some his "older children," Levi, Benjamin, Isaac Pennington, Elizabeth Robins, William, John, and Rachel. His other, younger children: Sarah, Jessey, Joseph, Sollomon, Mary, and Noah Pennington. 5. Levi (d. 1808) "appoints" Benjamin and Isaac Pennington his "trusty and well beloved friends," which seems to make them executors. It seems strange language. Why doesn't he say, "My sons?" John Pennington is a witness. 6. In 1802 a Levi is disowned. Why? And which Levi is this? This 1802 disowned Levi is still in NC, and Levi (d. 1808) has been buying property in Spartanburg Dist, SC for 4 years. 7. Hopping back, let's look at some more things in the Quaker records and make interpretations about items that stand out, and which may help to clarify various Levi and Isaac records. A. The summary about New Garden meeting in the EQG states: "In the first year, 1754, we have settlers coming in from Pennsylvania, from Hopewell and Fairfax meetings, Virginia. During 1755 nine certificates were received, representing Pennsylvania and Virginia only. According to the official minutes, which note all certificates received, there were brought in during the sixteen years, 1754-70, inclusive, eighty-six certificates in all. Of these forty-five came from Pennsylvania, thirty-five from Virginia, one from Maryland, and four from northeastern North Carolina." If we could determine which one came from Maryland, we might be able to state with absolute certainty that Levi came from Pennsylvania or Virginia. HOWEVER, we do know that the earliest arrivals were from Virginia, but even then, came from Pennsylvania families. We do know absolutely that the Backcountry people were not born in North Carolina. They came from somewhere else. (Not the same as the coastal settlers.) Remember, too, people who lived in the Nottingham tract (mostly Quakers in Nottingham MM) were often accorded either/or status -- Sometimes Maryland, and sometimes Pennsylvania. Because of border disputes this happened along Pennsylvania/Virginia borders, etc. etc. In looking up North Carolina deeds, I have found SC deeds recorded in NC, and NC deeds recorded in SC. So we have to be careful in according locations based on presentday designations. Each record should be recorded as we find it, and then expanded upon with qualifying information. Some of these records are noted within many different counties as well, simply because new counties were continuously taken from old ones. B. Next, every NC Pennington but Martha is disowned. 1770, 1, 27. Rachel Perry (form Pennington) dis mou 1771, 9, 7. Martha & dt, Mary & Elizabeth, rocf New Garden MM, dated 1771, 6, 29. 1771, 9, 7. Levi, Jr. roc. 1774, 1, 1. Sarah (form Burns) dis mou in 8th mo. 1775, 2, 4. Isaac roc. 1775, 6, 3. Isaac dis mou. 1779, 4, 3. Mary Grave (form Pennington) dis mou. 1780, 6, 3. Levi rpd mou. 1780, 7, 1. Martha gct Center MM. (cert for Elizabeth, dt Martha, withheld) 1780, 9, 2. Levi gct Center MM, N. C. 1781, 5, 5. Elizabeth dis. 1800, 6, 2. Levi rocf Center MM, dated 1800, 4, 19. (DEEP RIVER MM) 1802, 5, 3. Levi, of Belows Creek, dis. (1.) 1771 Rachel Pennington Perry is disowned (2.) BUT THEN, 1771 - 1771, 6, 29. Martha and 3 ch gct Cane Creek from New Garden. Martha and three children would not have been granted certificates if the children were Elizabeth, Mary and Rachel. So who are the three children? Possibly Levi her son, is still regarded as a child rather than being given his own certificate. (3.) BUT THEN, Levi is received on certificate at Cane Creek, so possibly he was included as Martha's child in the above reference even though he was given an individual certificate. (4.) In 1775 Levi is reported marrying out of unity (someone other than a Quaker) in Cane Creek MM records. Nothing seems to have been done about this, for there is no remonstrance recorded with him in the EQG records. Is this the marriage of Levi (d. 1708 Spartanburg) to Elizabeth, or is it a previous marriage? Nonetheless he/or some Levi is granted a certificate to Center MM. In 1802 "Levi of Belows Creek" is disowned. This is a valuable designation, for it puts a locale with the Quaker records. Belews Creek is possibly a name that comes from the surname Bilyeu, or Ballou (kinship links with my children's Barnes family in Barry County, MO, along with Smith and Harbert -- possibly Quaker Herberts?) There was a Belows/Belews Creek MM as well as a Belews Creek, and today there is a Belews Lake. This creek is west of where the four presentday corners of Stokes and Rockingham, Forsyth and Guilford Counties come together in a perfect crossroads, but is principally in Forsyth county. (5.) Who is Isaac Pennington? Is he a father, brother, or son to Levi (d. 1790)? Maybe he is all three. When we get to the heart of one puzzle we find five or ten others! There are reasons to believe that Isaac Pennington may have been Levi's (d. 1790) oldest son. He is mentioned on his own certificate, indicating he was likely older than Levi (d. 1808), the son of Levi (d. 1790). If he was the oldest son, then it is likely he was named either for the wife's father (usual) or Levi's father. Whichever, I feel there was a definite connection to the name Isaac on both sides of the family. If Levi (d. 1790) was son of an Isaac, I think it was an Isaac connected to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There are several reasons for this: Locality and Opportunity: Abraham's family was in (Old) Frederick County, Virginia, as was Hopewell MM, where the NC Quakers paused in there journey south. The Boones paused here, the Hollingsworths, Morgans, Beesons, Beals, Williams, Teagues, Largents/Sargents, etc. Kinship: The same, plus King, Casey, Pierce/Pearce, Noland. Abraham's movements parallel the Quakers' from the beginning in Cecil County, to Frederick Co., MD, to Frederick Co., VA to SC. There is no doubt in my mind that Abraham's family had Quaker ties through kinship, if not membership. Migration: Levi (d. 1808) moved to SC, as did Abraham's family. Some Strictly Circumstantial Evidence: We know the names Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob associate with Abraham, but so does John. It would be strange if Abraham only left descendants from these four sons. There are several pockets of Penningtons left in the Virginia Appalachians that might tie to him -- or to his sons, who were also in northern Virginia. There is a William in Rockingham who may be connected somehow, or to the Ashe county families. This may be the William who received payments for damages done to him during the Revolutionary War. (1) There is an Abraham Pennington with a slew of children born in Virginia who ended up in Highland County, Ohio. Kinship: Keys (more another time) (2) There is an Elijah Pennington who went first to Hampshire county, VA (made from old Frederick county) and ultimately also ended up in Ohio, in Seneca County. There are also Levis in this large family. Kinship: McKeever (Delaware, McCever in Old Frederick, VA. More on him another time.) (3) There is the Litzenburger/Pennington family in Washington/Greene Counties in Pennsylvania who are supposed to descend from a Levi Pennington who married Rachel Litzenberg (ca. 1800 in Frederick Co., Virginia. Their son was named Jacob. (4) Isaac Pennington of Clinton County, OH born in Greene County, PA. (more another time.) (5) My Pemberton/Penningtons of Baltimore County, MD. John, William, Richard, Jesse, Otho, Allen. Kinship: Davis, Baker, Shepherd, Chapman, Odell, Choate, Williams. This is way too long for e-mail, but I wanted to get some of it down, and will try and get more to you via the website, soon. Once my daggone service gets fixed up! We're springing forward! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Josie and Cousins on the List The name Swan was a derivitive from the early Swedish settlers along the Delaware, who were there long before Penn and the Quakers came along. The young Swedish men were called Svens or Swans. You might want to check out the Old Philadelphia article written in the 1800's by Rebecca Harding Davis, and take a look at the Swede/Finn pages -- both on the AMXROADS website. There are Swan connections to the Litzenberg(er) family of Washington and Greene Counties PA, one of whom married into the Pennington family while they lived near Winchester VA after the Revolutionary War. In Delaware Co., Randnor twp, PA George Litzenberger married Grace Coat(e)s, who was thereupon disowned from the Quaker faith. The Litzenberg(er) family later is found in Johnson County, IA with my own Pennington family, so once again, a continuing relationship developed and I believe these western PA relationships when investigated, will help identify mysterious Pennington connections between various Pennington clumps currently thought to be unrelated. Many Penningtons ended up in the Midwest, as mine did. Another George Litzenberger performed the second marriage of my GGGrandfather John Pennington. There is a Swan family webpage, and a genealogy written on the Litzenberg(er)s, which my correspondent Paul Roos has put into a gedcom at Ancestry.com. Access to this area of Ancestry is always free. Josie, I'm sorry, I do not have access to the web addresses at the moment, because of this dratted internet problem I'm having. I have 24 messages I can't access. It's making me crazy! Josie, try using google.com to search for some of these other surnames. I've had wonderful results with that. And of course, Genforum. The Briscoes are an old Maryland family. You would be able to find information on them at the Maryland archives. Dr. John Briscoe was one of the Northern Virginia settlers whose property from Lord Fairfax was surveyed by the young Virginia surveyor, Mr. George Washington. Some of Dr. Briscoes' property was in presentday Clarke County (Abraham -- The Indian Trader -- Pennington's was near what is now Berryville in Clarke County.) He also had tracts along Opequan Creek, (near Leetown, Frederick County, VA); also in Jefferson and Berkley, Counties, WVA. You can check the Library of Virginia for originals of these deeds. Our American Crossroads page -- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Migrations/virginia.html has details of the first settlers. I've just been looking into the Hamptons (and Lewises) because our Cousin Cari has about a ton of Hampton Penningtons in her lineage! Hamptons also start back in Maryland, (Dents also, Cari; and Amoss families there too, Leigh). Andrew Hampton was in Northern Virginia (now Jefferson Co., WVA; purchased a tract in 1734 or 1735 from a likely John Smith for my Smith research.) Andrew Hampton moved to Brunswick/Lunenburg in Southern Virginia (a likely Pennington progression, too). He later moved to Anson County, NC and then SC. Andrew was likely son of John Hampton Senior, who moved east of the Blue Ridge into (presentday) Loudoun Co., VA. I've been finding lots of information that will be enormously helpful to American Crossroads searchers in Cecil Odell's books on "Old Frederick County, Virginia." Odell presents abstracts of deeds and records from counties made in the Northern Virginia Perimeter. He also sometimes details records from their previous localities in Maryland and Pennsylvania. He quotes Cecil County deeds for Abraham Pennington I hadn't seen before, naming Mary as Abraham's wife. Just as an example of the cream on the top of this dessert -- significant surnames here include Anderson, Johnson, Worthington, Stephenson, Davis, Hollingsworth, Hardin, Sargent (Largent from Cecil County,) Carter, Teague, Williams, Hiett (Hiatt, etc.), Lewis. Actually, the books contain little that isn't significant to our effort. I'm going to see if Mr. Odell might give American Crossroads purchasers a collective discount on these books. (As soon as I can get on the internet again.) I am pretty sure he is part of my Pennington/Pembertons of Baltimore County, MD. I believe the information in Orange/Frederick county is as significant to the Southern Virginia, Northern NC as the Philadelphia Perimeter and MD/DE Perimeter are. It is in Frederick County, VA that the Quakers once again were a vital part of the sphere of influence, as they established Hopewell Monthly Meeting in the early 1730's. We find them mingling again in the early NW/SW records. There is another sphere of Quaker influence which has largely been lost to us in Hanover County, Virginia (along with other records.) I find many of the same names in Hanover county as are found in Lunenburg and Brunswick Counties, VA. To sum up, and get back to Levi the Quaker, I think we may find clues and connection for Levi with Ta-dah! Abraham Pennington whose family was well established in Old Frederick County, Virginia. I think Mr. Odell's books are a good beginning point which we need to examine minutely for those connections. Please resend any messages sent to cmacdee@teleport.com in the last couple of days to this AOL address. I still can't get the teleport messages at this time, but I have hope! in the next few days. It is spring, isn't it?! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn twocatherd@AOL.com

Hi Carolyn and list. I just started researching my Robert WHITELY d. 1744 Fairfax Co. VA line and find connections to SWAN, COMPTON, BRISCOE. Very interesting in St. Mary's Co. MD and Charles Co.. If you run into these names appreciate any info you can pass on to me. Robert's son, Wm Whitely, Sr. went to Loudoun Co. VA m. Susannah Tyler (dau of Capt. Charles & Ann Hereford) and their son Wm, Jr settled in Bedford Co. VA m. to Millie HAYNES - listed in the Quaker vol 6. Does this mean they were Quakers and how do I find out how long and when they became Quakers. Interesting I found this on net under the HAINES line of Maine. (Albert Galitin Whitely, a son of Wm & Millie Haynes (dau of Henry & Tabitha Turner, his 1st wife Bersheba Hampton m. 1768). Albert Galitin Whitely, d. in Alabama, b Bedford Co. VA and is brother to my Francis, wonder about his middle name.) Husband: Abner Haines Father: Samuel Haines Mother: Hannah Johnson Wife: Eliza Pepperell Ayers Father: Mother: Marriage Date: Marriage Place: Children: Albert Gallatin Haines Maria S. Haines Adelaide Ayers Haines Harriot Parker Haines Charles Glidden Haines Joseph Ayers Haines Albert Gallatin - Letter G: GALLATIN Albert @ Machias 4 276-279 @ Machias 14 90-91 General Index Sprague's Journal of Maine History Courtesy of the Androscoggin Historical Society Albert Gallatin Haines (M) - Birth: 18 AUG 1804 -- Death: 31 OCT 1867 -- Spouse: , Rhoda Beane, Jane Sumner Parents: Abner Haines, Eliza Pepperell Ayers Spouse & Children* Eliza Pepperell Ayers - Albert Gallatin Haines - Maria S. Haines - Adelaide Ayers Haines - Harriot Parker Haines - Charles Glidden Haines - Joseph Ayers Haines a Stephen Haines in this Maine line d. Claiborne, Alabama - no other info on him. (my gf Francis L. Whitely named a son Stephen and also a Stephen Whitely grandson of Wm & Millie Haynes in Bedford Co. VA went to KY) also there is MILLIKENs in this Maine line....and a lot of Ayers. My line has William Haynes m. Elizabeth MILLINER dau of ?????? named a son Milliner Haynes in Bedford Co. VA. Lots of Ayers in Bedford Co. VA. Asa Haines of Maine, son of Samuel Haines m. Hannah Milliken they had a son Wm O. Haines m. Melissa Milliken. Asa's dau Lydia Haines m. Loren S. Milliken b. Buxton, ME. This Haines family is very old ME family - most lived and died there. This may be a shot in the dark, perhaps some Quaker connection would provide something, Quakers were on the move across the country. Every since I found my George W. Swartz line extended back to George Soule of Mayflower, my scope of research has broadened up the coast on some of my other Southern lines. thanks, josie At 11:15 PM 3/26/01 -0800, you wrote: >Dear Cousins, > I've just received the most delightful message from new >list member, Cousin Tom in Texas. Although I'm not going to mention >all the >lovely things he said, I am very grateful for them. Tom is a part of >the Levi Pennington (the Quaker) descendants, along with our dear >Cousin Mary in Arizona, and Cousin Leigh in NJ. One of the things he >asked about, and I will answer here, is whether I might descend from >Isaac Pennington, the wonderful Quaker writer. So far as I have been >able to track my Penningtons, I believe I descend from Henry, who >settled first in St. Mary's County, MD and then moved up the >Chesapeake Bay to Cecil County, MD around 1671. > I lived in Maryland for many years, and it was a great thrill >for me >to delve into documents about my ancestors which were written 400 >years ago, and to drive to Annapolis, MD, Cecil County,MD, >Philadelphia, >York Co., Lancaster Co., Chester Co., Delaware, Northern Virginia, >Western >Pennsylvania on genealogical forays. There is not enough evidence on >the >answer to whether some American Pennington Immigrants might have been >related in England. As far as we know, Isaac the Quaker's direct >American >descendants are all descended from his one son Edward who died only a >couple of years after his arrival around 1700. (too lazy to look it >up.) Our Cousin Jim in CT is a descendant. At first it was >believed that the main group of Pennington Quakers were descendants of >Isaac, but subsequent research showed them to descend from Paul of >Sunbreak (Lancashire) and his wife Margaret Hall. The American >Quaker immigrants came from Daniel Pennington, who arrived in >Pennsylvania in 1718 -- pretty late as compared to Henry on the >Sassafras, who may be the Henry who immigrated to Maryland in the late >1650's. Therefore, it seems altogether plausible that many MD >Penningtons could be related to either of the Quaker Immigrant >Pennington groups. > Rachel Pennington Beeson was of Lancashire as well, and it >seems logical to me to put forth the theory that she may well have >been part of the Penningtons that Daniel came from. We know certainly >that she was not the daughter of Isaac Pennington the Quaker writer, >although it is continually perpetuated that she was. > Some of you who have known me for awhile may be suprised to >see me state that I have lots of speculations about these lines, and >thanks to the internet, I feel some of my speculations are just around >the corner from being proven. First, it is okay to speculate! Now >while some of you are gasping that I would say that, let me qualify >it! It is okay to speculate when you clearly state you are >speculating, AND you give concrete facts and details that are logical, >supporting genealogical reasons for arriving at the speculations >you've made. We >have to make some logical, educated guesses if we are to proceed in >areas where records are scanty or have been destroyed. Educated >speculations, based on specific facts, are not the same thing as >dropping Rachel Pennington Beeson into Isaac the Quaker's Family, when >it is easily determined that Isaac the Quaker had one daughter. Her >name was Mary, and she married Daniel Worley. >Next time: Logical Levi the Quaker Suppositions, supported with facts! >Stay tuned to this station! > >Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn >Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com >========================================= >To send a message to the American Crossroads List: >AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com >--- Visit American Crossroads --- >http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads > > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog ___________________________________________________________________ josiebass@zxmail.com 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 Home of the *HARRISON* Repository http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/ My Southern Family WWW: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/ LINDSAY & HARRISON Surnames & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List GENCONNECT: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Data Managed by beautiful daughter Becky Bass Bonner and me, Josephine Lindsay Bass

Dear Cousins, I've just received the most delightful message from new list member, Cousin Tom in Texas. Although I'm not going to mention all the lovely things he said, I am very grateful for them. Tom is a part of the Levi Pennington (the Quaker) descendants, along with our dear Cousin Mary in Arizona, and Cousin Leigh in NJ. One of the things he asked about, and I will answer here, is whether I might descend from Isaac Pennington, the wonderful Quaker writer. So far as I have been able to track my Penningtons, I believe I descend from Henry, who settled first in St. Mary's County, MD and then moved up the Chesapeake Bay to Cecil County, MD around 1671. I lived in Maryland for many years, and it was a great thrill for me to delve into documents about my ancestors which were written 400 years ago, and to drive to Annapolis, MD, Cecil County,MD, Philadelphia, York Co., Lancaster Co., Chester Co., Delaware, Northern Virginia, Western Pennsylvania on genealogical forays. There is not enough evidence on the answer to whether some American Pennington Immigrants might have been related in England. As far as we know, Isaac the Quaker's direct American descendants are all descended from his one son Edward who died only a couple of years after his arrival around 1700. (too lazy to look it up.) Our Cousin Jim in CT is a descendant. At first it was believed that the main group of Pennington Quakers were descendants of Isaac, but subsequent research showed them to descend from Paul of Sunbreak (Lancashire) and his wife Margaret Hall. The American Quaker immigrants came from Daniel Pennington, who arrived in Pennsylvania in 1718 -- pretty late as compared to Henry on the Sassafras, who may be the Henry who immigrated to Maryland in the late 1650's. Therefore, it seems altogether plausible that many MD Penningtons could be related to either of the Quaker Immigrant Pennington groups. Rachel Pennington Beeson was of Lancashire as well, and it seems logical to me to put forth the theory that she may well have been part of the Penningtons that Daniel came from. We know certainly that she was not the daughter of Isaac Pennington the Quaker writer, although it is continually perpetuated that she was. Some of you who have known me for awhile may be suprised to see me state that I have lots of speculations about these lines, and thanks to the internet, I feel some of my speculations are just around the corner from being proven. First, it is okay to speculate! Now while some of you are gasping that I would say that, let me qualify it! It is okay to speculate when you clearly state you are speculating, AND you give concrete facts and details that are logical, supporting genealogical reasons for arriving at the speculations you've made. We have to make some logical, educated guesses if we are to proceed in areas where records are scanty or have been destroyed. Educated speculations, based on specific facts, are not the same thing as dropping Rachel Pennington Beeson into Isaac the Quaker's Family, when it is easily determined that Isaac the Quaker had one daughter. Her name was Mary, and she married Daniel Worley. Next time: Logical Levi the Quaker Suppositions, supported with facts! Stay tuned to this station! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To send a message to the American Crossroads List: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

Dear Cousins, I am very happy to report that we have gained a number of new members to the list, and wish to welcome them. I wish I was functioning better in the midst of this surge of interest in our American Crossroads project. My Internet Service Provider is trying to get its act together, but still hasn't done it, and in the interim, the alternative means I've tried seem to merely fight with one another's software, and I'm still left with no adequate access to my e-mail and the sites I need to reach in order to upload and download files for the AMXROADS website. So, I'm temporarily back at my old server, and hope I can communicate a few basics. I'd like to re-state some of our focus and goals. It is my belief, based on my own 30+ years of self-taught struggle to track my ancestors, that computer usage, ability to e-mail, and search the internet have advanced genealogical success in just three or four years to a state that took me far in excess of twenty years to achieve in my "old" research. That's the good news! The bad news is that while this was happening the people using the technology were not advancing genealogically as quickly as they were adapting to the new toys. This was not their fault, because software producers, other technology-oriented companies, and the online companies were mainly interested in finding new ways to exploit the surge of genealogy users, and make money off them. But people can rarely self-diagnose what is wrong with them, let alone cure or excise their own infections. AMERICAN CROSSROADS was created in the hope that we could explore new ways to utilize the new technologies. I believe I've evolved some very good ways through my own trial and error. Lots of trials and lots of errors! "Lost" ancestors can be found so much more easily and quickly now, using the new technology. But the genealogical ground rules remain solidly in place. New methodologies must be found that are in keeping with the old ethical standards of proper documentation, respect for the copyrights and work of others, and above all, an ability to share and compare, and change what is wrong, if need be. Even in the 15 months since I started American Crossroads, I've learned a lot. I've learned that it is not SURNAME that matters, but IDENTITY. Surnames are often misidentifications, originally created through poor spelling and pronunciation of names usually written by others, then compounded in subsequent transcriptions over a couple of hundred years. Sometimes the misidentificatiion occurs strictly through modern transcriptions and indexing. Sometimes misidentification occurs because we rely on the work of others instead of investigating the documents ourselves. It is often when the results become incredibly tangled and error ridden that we try to untangle them only to find that we finally have to go back to the beginning -- and begin with original data. That is where I am with American Crossroads. It's the "Little Red Hen" school of discovery! As I started trying to straighten out the misidentifications and find the roots of my own Pennington family I discovered not all the "old" techniques worked, and I found the reason they didn't work was because my families (almost all of the lineages) kept moving. They were on the edge of the world wherever I found them. Over twenty-something years I had identified some characteristics in my wandering Watts family that were strangely repeated in my other families. Then I identified things in my McDaniel family that were strangely like the Watts and Penningtons. At each juncture the light bulb came on, shone brightly and was turned off by my mind set that the Watts and Penningtons and McDaniels (and their allied families) were all very separate entities, came from different locales and beginnings and had nothing to do with one another. AND my Smiths! I had given up on them! To my very great surprise I discovered patterns of movement in all my own early families that indicated however unique and disconnected from one another I thought they were, almost all moved out of a sphere of influence around Philadelphia, moved south and west, into Virginia, moved down the Shenandoah Valley, moved into North and South Carolina and then began spreading further south, and always, further west. In each case, some remnants stayed in the Philadelphia sphere, and some moved onward. Some stayed in northern Maryland, some moved on. Some holed up in the hills of northern Virginia (now West Virginia) and SW Pennsylvania; some rode on. And on and on from the 17th century until here we are -- their heirs. The Little Red Hen's equation is: HISTORY + LOCATION + KINSHIP = IDENTITY Take a fact -- any fact! Work out the inferences of the fact. What was happening in that location at the time of the fact? Who else was living there with the names you seek? Who else was living there that you recognize as surnames connected with your family in their previous locations? KINSHIP is not always relationship. Sometimes it comes from the locality, the mere fact of being neighbors; sometimes it comes from being part of the same religious group. The Quakers are the best example I know of kinship continued over many many generations. Sometimes kinship comes from a marriage so far back in time nobody remembers what the original connection was. The woman's name has been lost in the documents. But those families continued to move together across time and the expanding face of America, as my Watts, Markham, Smith and Van Winkle families did for at least 200 years. These people are difficult to trace because they were the founders of a totally new, unique culture, and when they moved their names were written differently. They were the "Backcountry," or Frontierspeople, or Pioneers. Sometimes it's hard to think of people who lived 20 miles from Philadelphia as living on the Frontier, or being Pioneers, but that's what they were. They were a blend of many countries, many cultures, many ethnicities. They became one, and that's what we are, even though it's hard to see it sometimes. That's what we hope to re-discover and re-establish with our research, with our website, and with this discussion list. American Crossroads! We meet here and re-connect with one another through our common ancestry, our common heritage, our common history, and our common kinship. Welcome! Let me know how I can help with in our common quest. Write the list. Many cousins are better than one! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

Dear Cousin Marilyn and Cousins on the List: Thank you so much for sharing the Sadsbury marriage certificates page. This is such a wonderful effort. You must be very happy to be part of such a worthy project. The Quaker marriage certificates give so much information about kinship and family relationships. These fit right into what we are trying to demonstrate about interconnections. I believe Caleb Pierce might have a connection to some of the NC and SC Abraham Pennington families. I'll have to chase some of my records. The Coates surname is connected somehow to my Penningtons, through the Litzenberg(er)s in Greene and Washington Counties. These moved into Ohio and Iowa, etc. I am so distressed to learn of our Friend and Cousin Mary Yarnall's condition. She most certainly will be in my thoughts and prayers. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn twocatherd@aol.com