Dear Cousins, Barb has given us a grand opportunity find and present some 19th century truth in an American Crossroads manner. Our Cousin Jim Pennington has sent me an e-mail on what he thinks is the genealogical interpretation of the Dr. Dickey Journal interviews published in the Kentucky Biographies project that I introduced yesterday. Jim is retiring and returning to his ancestral homelands in NW North Carolina this year, and once he gets there we will hound him mercilessly to solve all our NWSW genealogical problems through his access to all those original documents! In the meantime, he's been thinking about Dr. Dickey's Journal biographies. This will make a good study for us because there are so many intertwinings in these famiies. If we start with these Dr. Dickey Journal bios (secondary documents) we have an excellent opportunity to begin with (secondary) facts. The Clay County marriages I threw in are secondary documents, too, although they represent someone's (the transcriber's) interpretation of original documents. Actually, it is likely these records have gone through multiple transcriptions beginning when the clerk first wrote them into the county record books and subsequently indexed the record books. I've asked Jim to check out the other Biographies, especially the Dr. Dickey Journals and see if he finds further information pertinent to our sphere of interest. I've been trying to get Jim's lineages up on the website since December, and find I'm four months behind due to this internet service problem I've been having. Remember that we have unlimited free space at Rootsweb for your families. We want to present them in just the way this information is evolving -- through facts -- even if they are secondary facts, and let the secondary facts lead us to primary facts. Working with 19th century facts leads us to clues about other earlier Perimeters and other Kinship and History facts. Which in turn leads us to correct identities for our ancestors! Isn't this so much fun?!! Barb, you've got us up and running backwards!!!!! P. S. Thanks Cari in CA! P.S.2 The name Louisa in my children's southern Carter family was pronounced Lou-eye-za. I think that's where the Liza comes in. Love, Your Cousin Carolyn Here's Jim's e-mail: Cousin Carolyn: When I saw the last posting regarding the Penningtons and Sizemores I must admit I smiled. What a mess this bunch is and then you threw in the Ashers to make it more interesting. Here is some of what I think I have figured out so far. 1. Anny Pennington who married James Sizemore was Amy b.1841 d/o Ephriam Aaron Pennington b.1814 and Matilda Fields. 2. James Pennington b.1849 married Liza (Louisa) Sizemore b.1846 on July 20, 1867. James was the s/o Levi b.1810 and the grandson of Aaron b.1786 and Ann Coldiron. 3. The above James had a brother William b. 1842 who married Rebecca Asher b.1837. Rebecca was the d/o Robert Asher and Mary Sizemore. 4. Aaron Richard Pennington b.1842 married a different Mary Sizemore b.1845 in Dec. 1862. Aaron Richard was the s/o Ephriam Aaron. Mary was the d/o Harmon and Susan Sizemore. 5. Winnie (Wina) Pennington b.1859 was the d/o Ephriam Aaron Pennington. She married John Sizemore who was the s/o Henry Sizemore and Mary Asher. I have more details on the above folks if there is any interest. Did not want to write too much as you may already have this information. I do have a good bit of other information on the Sizemore Line including some photos if interested. Have a great day and congratulations on the grant. Love jim Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads
Dear Carolyn, What great news! Just imagine! Someone starting an online genealogy organization for people who actually want to share their (insert appropriate surname here) information. What a breath of fresh air, I'm glad to be on this list. Cari in CA
Dear Cousins: Here's a wonderful story I found while prowling the internet yesterday. When I saw the Title, "The Search for J. Ethington," I thought, "I could tell him that he's looking for the wrong name, and where he could find their origins." Take a look and see if you can do the same. The Search for J. Ethington by Harold D. Ethington 9 September, 1984 http://www.ethington.org/html/jeth.html Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads
Dear Barb and Cousins on the List: Knowing your locality was SW Virginia and NW North Carolina, I started out by accessing New River Valley Notes, and putting Pennington Sizemore in their Google search engine. http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm Through the New River Valley's Google search I found the Kentucky Biographies Project which used to be found through the KY Genweb pages, but doesn't seem to be there any more. It is an invaluable reference. You may want to go back and continue on with New River Valley Notes, because when I found the KY Biographies I didn't look further there. http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/ Dr. John J. Dickey's Diary has much biographical, genealogical and historical information on the inter-related families of the NWSW Perimeter. If you have NWSW Perimeter families you will find a ton of references here and clues to follow up on. If you haven't any such relationships, you might want to read the biographies in Dr. Dickey's Diary anyway, for they are priceless, and will make you smile for a week with their guilelessness when compared to our sophisticated times. Here's one example: http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/clay/asher.a.txt "Augustus Asher - June 23, 1898. My grandfather, Dillon Asher, came from Tennessee to Ford of Cumberlands in 1800, moved to Red Bird. His wife was Sally Davis. Their children: Blevins, Robert, John, Ira (Roberts), "Pug" (Henry Sizemore). There were others, I do not remember them. By Miss Davis, his wife's sister, he had children that took the name of Asher as follows: Jackson, Wilkerson, and Joshia who still lives and I think, Preston Asher was their brother. Bige, Matt, Jackson, Hugh, Tom and Dillon Asher are sons of Jackson. These are the men that have become so wealthy. All are worth more than Bige and he is probably worth 25,000 dollars. Jack, said to be worth $300,000, Matt, $200,000, Tom lives at Masiota, worth $3000,000. Hugh lives at Pineville, also Jack, though they have houses near Lexington. Matt, Jack and Hugh were famous lumbermen who started booming logs on the Kentucky River at Ford; they made big money. Their sisters are Mrs. Martha Morgan; Charity Howard; Puss, Bige Morgan of Sexton; Polly Gibson. Here's another: http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/clay/bolling.jw.txt Dr. John J. Dickey Diary, Fleming County, Ky. Recorded in the 1870's and beyond. Reprinted in Kentucky Explorer, Volume 10, No 4 - September, 1995. p. 86. By permission. Clay County. "John Gilbert and John Amis married sisters of James Bowling [sic]. From Eli, John (grandfather of Judge Josiah Comb's wife), Christopher, William, Joseph, Nancy (Sizemore) another sister of these, have descended most of the Bollings in Clay County. Jesse Bolling, my great grandfather married Mary Pennington of Lee County, Va. He was born in North Carolina at Hillsboro. Hisfather was born in Virginia. David Pennington, her brother, was living during the War of the Rebellion. My grandfather, Elijah Bolling stayed with him in Lee Co. during the late war." Lots more here. I know Cousin Jim is interested in Coldirons, Cousin Leigh is interested in Amis/Amos/Amoss connections, and I am interested in Baker, Williams, Davis. There are many other lines to be found by investigating Sizemores and Penningtons and any other family name you find here. This makes a good American Crossroads point. One's history (when pursuing migrating pioneers) is invariably linked to someone else's in the same region and time frame. Remember these are secondary sources, and use them accordingly. Also in Dr. John J. Dickey Diary, under Fleming County, Ky: http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/clay/gilbert.mj.txt Abijah Gilbert. When my father came to Clay County there was plenty of buffalo, elk and deer. He went to Richmond to get his license to marry. His wife was Mary Bolling. She had brothers: Eli, John, William, Levi; sister Nancy (John Sizemore). Her son, William Sizemore, lived with my father. He gave him a farm on Middle Fork on Rockhouse Creek. His brother, John Sizemore, assessed Clay County many times. The biography of James Campbell http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/perry/campbell.j.txt (interviewed at Forked Mouth, Ky., on July 22, 1898.) is loaded with history and information including: "I was born in Perry County, in Campbell's Bend, August 12, 1822. My father was Francis Campbell. He was born on Walker's Creek in North Carolina, a tributary of New River. They could roll a hogshead of tobacco to Charleston, North Carolina, in a day. He was born May 15, 1800; he died January 8, 1893. He was well preserved. My grandfather was John Campbell. He was born in North Carolina also. His wife was a Couch. The Campbells and Couches came from the same part of the state. In 1806 a large number of families in that region thought of immigrating to Kentucky. Not willing to take their families into an unknown country, they selected the two men, viz. - Austin Couch and Charles Francis, two choice men unmarried." [He gives much history here on the ensuing migration] "...........Peter DeWeese settled at the mouth of Grapevine and died from choking. When they would find a bee tree they would cut down a small chestnut, peel it, and fill it full of honey and carry it home. The horses and cattle lived on the range. The cane was an evergreen and in winter and summer made good pasture. In the sumer the peavine was equal to bluegrass. Flax was introduced. Buckskin supplied the men. The fifty families of new River proposed to make a settlement about Lexington. They came on later and settled at different places. The Begleys, Sizemore, Rameys, and my mother, Margaret Williams, came from that section. The Nobles, Neaces, and Fugates came later. My grandfather was a religious man. He was a Freemason when he came here. His children were James, John, Mary, Sallie, William, Francis, my father; Elijah, Isaac, Stephen, Hiram, Samuel, and Bitsy (Betsy), 12 in all. William, his brother, settled at the mouth of Campbell's Creek. His children were: Charles, William, Elijah, Hanes, Henry, Daniel, Margaret, and Amy." Two marriage records I found for Clay County, but much later: SIZEMORE, JAMES PENNINGTON, ANNY 27 Dec 1861 Clay KY SIZEMORE, JOHN PENNINGTON, MINEY 24 Feb 1877 Clay KY Information on James and Liza Sizemore Pennington is included in the 1 (February 1990) Clay County Ancestral News Vol. 6. Check out the Biographies for your families! This is a treasure! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads
Hi Carolyn and listmembers, Carolyn, what you are doing is working, so don't change what you do. I like to share what I've learned the hard way from time to time, and hear back from others their suggestions that might improve my way of doing things. I like the sense of community on your list and the openness to new ideas. I heartily enjoy the attention given to modes and methods of research as well as the families for which we are searching. That said, I have a query that I hope is appropriate. Does anyone have a late 1700's female Sizemore who married a Pennington male and they both died young, probably around 1810 or so?? This was in Grayson Co.VA, and maybe Lee County, VA. I don't know yet where their families came from, but they were gradually heading westward toward, and into Kentucky, maybe via Tennessee. Barb Temple
Dear Cousins, I sincerely hope I haven't been making American Crossroads into too formal a forum. I want to thank Barb and W Woodson for each of their comments on documentation, which I found very helpful, and gave me more insight into how to convey the process. We ALL have been Newbies. There is no reason to feel badly if you are. The way we get beyond Newbieism !!! is to ask questions. Newbie questions do not offend anyone, nor should you feel they will EVER make you look stupid on American Crossroads. Often there is no right or wrong answer -- just opinion on how to proceed. I hope I haven't harped so much on "correct procedure," that anyone feels intimidated. With that said, here are a couple more thoughts. My ideas on methodology are largely concerned with evolving new methods to proceed now that we are in a highly technological time. They are MY ideas! They have been developed in a dark cave of ignorance, from which we ALL are trying to crawl upward toward sunlight. Doesn't mean I know it all! I appreciate insight and commentary on my ideas. It helps develop what is needed. Often Newbies are the ones who can best point out flaws and errors in logic because they are the ones who are looking at things with brand-new views. I believe that looking at genealogy through a historical perspective (and vice versa) is one of the few means of getting past the "missing and misplaced links" that stymie our progress. In the "olden days" of my first research, accessing documents and the work of others was a long time consuming process. We are fortunate that in this technological time that more sources are becoming available online. In the genealogical sphere these have initially focused on cloned gedcoms that are OFTEN incorrect and undocumented. The means of offsetting this effect is to turn to primary sources which are becoming handily available online. There are lots of primary documents being digitized and put online. College websites are a great source for these, and so are government online Archives, the Genweb sites, many Rootsweb sites where you can find actual original documents online. While there are broad resources for census records, and sometimes even county records (rentable at LDS Family History Libraries) treasures such as family Bibles can be found in Archives such as the Library of Virginia. This is a unique opportunity to find original documents which could not usually be accomplished except by a trip to Richmond. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/ There are lots more, but you may find Documenting the American South especially interesting. http://ftp.oit.unc.edu/docsouth/ Paul Hallsall's Modern History Sourcebook (And links to sources in other periods) http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/modsbook.html HOW TO READ A PRIMARY SOURCE http://www.bowdoin.edu/~prael/writing_guides/primary.htm Why Study History Through Primary Sources http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/robinson-sources.html History in the Raw [The Natiional Archives] http://www.nara.gov/education/teaching/teaching.html National Standards for History http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/nchs/standards/ Thank you all for your congratulations and comments on the scholarship! I am so very proud to have been selected! Remember, we can't learn anything instantly. Our lives, our histories and genealogies are all works in progress that keep evolving and changing, and (we hope!) improving. We can all help one another in the process. Happy Easter and Spring! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To send a message to the American Crossroads List: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads
Hi, I appreciate your suggestions on accuracy and exactitude in making family histoty notes. Good suggestions. Two additional items I have found helpful: (1) When working with a notebook, use a separate page for each entry and on each page, or at least at the first page of the series, place the date and the Library or other archive used and the call number of the book, article, etc. That way, if you need to go back and check, the catalog will not be required the next time and if the book is needed by interlibray loan this call number is easily reached. (2) I find 3x5 cards very helpful for specific items [larger ones can be used on larger quotations], with full bibiolgraphical info on each. Yes, it gets tedious, but when you are 100 miles away and did not note where you learned x about y and want to add another thought you remembered and did not write down, where did you learn that? At least, that is how I have found it. The cards can then be arranged in an indexed file for later use. Best regards. ww ----- Original Message ----- From: <keenebj@juno.com> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Documents and References > Dear Carolyn and listmembers, > I really enjoyed your excellent discussion on documentation, references, > and citations. I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth based on my > own experience. It seems like most folks on this list are experienced > researchers but my comments would be more useful to newbies. > > Years ago, when I started out, I was afraid of the documentation "thing" > because I didn't know how to do it. As I learned, it got easier and > easier till now it is almost second nature. First, I had to learn why > it is important. > It has become clear to me now, that a lot of time and energy is being > wasted by researchers doing the same work over and over again, by > themselves or others. If we cite our work so that folks can easily > verify it's accuracy or so that they can trust it, they then spend their > time digging up new data and we move on. We make progress. We break > down more brick walls. > > Genealogy is not done well in a vacumm. It is a community kind of thing, > and so has to have some form of order so other members of our community > can believe and respect our work. > > To any newbies on the list, don't be put off by words like, "The Chicago > Style". It is very good to learn that important information as soon as > possible, but it is based on common sense and gives us a way to present > what we know is needed. To start out, think of what information you > would need to go to the person's source and check their interpretation. > In the case of a book, as Carolyn stated, you'll need the title, author, > publisher with address, date of publication (very important to put the > data in context), and the page numbers. It's pretty obvious that this > will save you a lot of time. Even the time and energy saved by being > able to go directly to the pages is valuable to you. That holds even > more true when there is no index! > > If you wanted to go straight to a census entry someone has cited, think > what will take you directly there. Of course, the country, state, > county, but also the township and very importantly, the E. D. > (Enumeration District) if available, the page #, Dwelling #, and Family > or Household #. Oh, how I have blessed those who provided this kind of > info to me and felt sad when they didn't and I had to go over the > microfilm, entry by entry for hours. > > There are so many sources of data that we might someday need to cite, and > the identifying info varies, especially on microfilm. So figure out what > will help you get back to that piece of data, and use that in your source > citation. Sometimes, there are just the names and dates, and the > numerical point on the tape that you found it, to give yourself and > others the easiest way to re-find that data. > > When you copy your information, it's helpful to copy the one or two pages > in the front of the book that contain the source info. If you can't, you > need to do it the old-fashioned way (!), with pencil and paper. I like > to keep the pages in order and connect the source page to the front. > > Whatever it takes to get you straight back to the info, in case you need > more data, is generally what is needed by others in a source citation. A > good thing to add is the place you found the book, microfilm, or document > itself. It gives folks an idea of the type of place they might find a > copy in their own area, or when on a trip. > That person who goes straight to the data, using your good citation info, > may be the cousin who finds your > missing ancestor and helps you break thru your brick walls. > > This is how and what I learned, the hard way. > > Happy Easter to all, > Barb Temple > > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
Dear Carolyn and listmembers, I really enjoyed your excellent discussion on documentation, references, and citations. I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth based on my own experience. It seems like most folks on this list are experienced researchers but my comments would be more useful to newbies. Years ago, when I started out, I was afraid of the documentation "thing" because I didn't know how to do it. As I learned, it got easier and easier till now it is almost second nature. First, I had to learn why it is important. It has become clear to me now, that a lot of time and energy is being wasted by researchers doing the same work over and over again, by themselves or others. If we cite our work so that folks can easily verify it's accuracy or so that they can trust it, they then spend their time digging up new data and we move on. We make progress. We break down more brick walls. Genealogy is not done well in a vacumm. It is a community kind of thing, and so has to have some form of order so other members of our community can believe and respect our work. To any newbies on the list, don't be put off by words like, "The Chicago Style". It is very good to learn that important information as soon as possible, but it is based on common sense and gives us a way to present what we know is needed. To start out, think of what information you would need to go to the person's source and check their interpretation. In the case of a book, as Carolyn stated, you'll need the title, author, publisher with address, date of publication (very important to put the data in context), and the page numbers. It's pretty obvious that this will save you a lot of time. Even the time and energy saved by being able to go directly to the pages is valuable to you. That holds even more true when there is no index! If you wanted to go straight to a census entry someone has cited, think what will take you directly there. Of course, the country, state, county, but also the township and very importantly, the E. D. (Enumeration District) if available, the page #, Dwelling #, and Family or Household #. Oh, how I have blessed those who provided this kind of info to me and felt sad when they didn't and I had to go over the microfilm, entry by entry for hours. There are so many sources of data that we might someday need to cite, and the identifying info varies, especially on microfilm. So figure out what will help you get back to that piece of data, and use that in your source citation. Sometimes, there are just the names and dates, and the numerical point on the tape that you found it, to give yourself and others the easiest way to re-find that data. When you copy your information, it's helpful to copy the one or two pages in the front of the book that contain the source info. If you can't, you need to do it the old-fashioned way (!), with pencil and paper. I like to keep the pages in order and connect the source page to the front. Whatever it takes to get you straight back to the info, in case you need more data, is generally what is needed by others in a source citation. A good thing to add is the place you found the book, microfilm, or document itself. It gives folks an idea of the type of place they might find a copy in their own area, or when on a trip. That person who goes straight to the data, using your good citation info, may be the cousin who finds your missing ancestor and helps you break thru your brick walls. This is how and what I learned, the hard way. Happy Easter to all, Barb Temple
Dear Cousins, How do we document our information, reference it, and give citations for it? These concepts comprise the basis of our research. Many are confused by the differences in these terms, and most of all, how to actually accomplish what each implies. When we use these terms casually, they are almost interchangeable. Sometimes the term "the source" refers to the documentation we have for a fact, sometimes, data is the word used., and sometimes source means who the information was obtained from. Which is correct? What's the best way to refer to something? How is that different from a citation? Documentation means the proof we have for a fact. There are two kinds of documents: Primary and Secondary. Primary documents -- basically -- are those created contemporaneously, and secondary -- basically means those created after the fact. Naturally, more weight is given to primary documents. (That is not to say that in the creation of primary documents contemporary people did not make their share of human mistakes.) When we speak or write casually to one another, precision in these things is not a very great issue. But when we write a formal article, or present facts, (as in a gedcom) we need to follow standard formats which are instantly recognizable to the reader, and which offer reasons to trust the information. At this time, the format used is governed by what is called "The Chicago Style," of writing. This format also provides a standard style of referencing sources for the information we're presenting as gospel. As genealogists and historians we look for information which can prove our ideas concerning the truth of a circumstance or statement of fact. Usually we do not set out to prove someone is wrong and we are right, but sometimes that is what happens. Each fact builds up extended possibilities for other facts. When we see that a date or locality, or other fact is properly referenced and properly documented, we are reassured that the ensuing information is correct and trustworthy, and that the author has taken due care in presenting the information. Also, with references, we can check for ourselves to see whether the author has interpreted the documents properly. Conversely, information presented carelessly, without proper references and documentation should send up purple, red and green flares combined with loud submarine YAOOOOGAH's to warn us that this is untrustworthy information. A reference can be made in the body of the article, by just stating, "as found in Joe Dokes book, " Merry is the Day." You would want to follow this with more information in a Bibliography, or Annotations. You can also reference information by use of a footnote or an endnote. The footnote goes down at the bottom of the page, and endnotes follow the article, either after a chapter, or at the end of a book. There are advantages to each. The endnote does not interrupt the flow of the article as a footnote often does, but then you have to page through a book to find it, which is often inconvenient. Computer word processing software will format this as you wish. The footnote and endnote reference is made by giving the author's name, the exact name of the book in italics (not possible here in text format), the publisher and address, the year of publication, and the pages where the information is contained. This is a citation. All of this can be done using internet URL's as well. Improper references are ones which fail to give full, checkable information, for instance: Family Origins CD #517; LDS Ancestral File # AAW 446; or Susie Jones sent me this from her files. If you have a photocopy of the journal entry that Susie Jones' great-grandfather made after the birth of your ancestor Joe Dokes, and if there is documentation that Jimmie Jones' Journal was contemporaneously written at the time your ancestor Joe Dokes was born, then that certainly is documentation. But you would reference it very differently. Other highly improper documentation would be reprinting a photocopy of a document purporting to be a copy of a family Bible page, (or Jimmie Jones' Journal) without ascertaining and providing proof that it was in fact, such a page. A statement that one has made the photocopy from the Bible, owned by Susie Jones, address, and copied by you, 17th December 1999 is an authentication, and source. Merely stating this is the copy of so and so Bible page is neither proper documentation, nor a proper reference. This is getting long. If you would like to see some expansion on these interrelated topics, I will be getting up a page this weekend, using Christopher Gist as an example. This also will give substantiation of other of my ideas about Kinship connections. I also hope to have up the overview of the Northern Indian tribes, the French and Indian War, and the Christopher Gist, George Washington, and Daniel Boone article I promised. I hope you all have a blessed Easter and the beginning of a most hopeful Spring -- Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads
Dear Carolyn, Congratulations on earning the scholarship from Gentech, Inc. I second all the happy messages folks have sent and it is good to know your hard work and dedication are being rewarded. Cousin Barb Temple
Congratulations, congratulations! And if our ancient bodies can't make it down to Boston, you'll have to head for Maine - or you can come, anyway. We'll give you a lobster and some Indian Pudding and we can all meow meow about the cousins who brought us together. They get sicker and sicker. Stay well and busy! Your Maineac Cuz
Oh Carolyn, I am so happy for you. You have done such a good job on Amxroads and I have learned so much from you. I for one want to extend my congratulations to you. My dear cousin, consider yourself hugged. Georgia Pennington Sligar. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel <cmacdee@teleport.com> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:06 AM Subject: [AMXROADS] GENTECH Scholarship > Dear Cousins, > I am so excited I can hardly type! Last fall I applied for a > scholarship from GENTECH, Inc. which is the organization devoted to > improvement and excellence in Genealogical technology. I am a real > bug about this, as you all know. I didn't know I had won until > tonight. I thought the scholarships had gone to someone else. > This is a very great affirmation of American Crossroads, and > I'm enclosing Mr. Sharbrough's e-mail to me so that you all -- my > kinship group! can share in this. > > Love, Your Grateful Cousin, > Carolyn > > > > > Dear Carolyn, > > Thank you for your application for a GENTECH Scholarship. I am pleased > to > announce that a GENTECH Scholarship has been awarded to you. It is a > credit > to you for the work and creativity that you have shown. > > Usually the award would have been made at our conference in January. > This > year I had to chase the sponsors longer, so I was not able to confirm > the > award at the preferred time. However, we have gotten the details > squared > away now and I'd like to move ahead as follows. > > The National Genealogical Society is holding their annual conference > in > Portland OR 16-19 May, 2001 at the Oregon Convention Center (777 NE > Martin > Luther King Jr Blvd). There is a GENTECH-sponsored luncheon at 1145am > on the > 16th, presumably at the Convention Center. > > GENTECH is offering you a complimentary registration for that > conference. I > would like for you to attend the GENTECH luncheon as our guest, there > to > receive a certificate recognizing your accomplishment and the first > $500 of > your award. > > We would expect you to continue to work on the project described in > your > application, and to continue to progress in your school work. > > In January of 2002, we will pay your expenses to attend the GENTECH > 2002 > conference in Boston, MA. You will present a 20 minute talk about your > project during the "Tech Sessions" on Thursday of the GENTECH > conference. At > the GENTECH Banquet on the Friday night of that conference, you will > be > awarding a certificate to a GENTECH Scholar from the next year. > > Again, Carolyn, thanks for your application, and congratulations on > your > elevation to the status of GENTECH Scholar. > > Sincerely, > > Beau Sharbrough > President, GENTECH Inc. > > > PS. Please let us know about your acceptance of the NGS conference > registration that we're offering - we'd like to fill out the paperwork > right > away. Thanks! > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >
There IS a God, after all. Carolyn McDaniel wrote: > > Dear Cousins, > I am so excited I can hardly type! Last fall I applied for a > scholarship from GENTECH, Inc. which is the organization devoted to > improvement and excellence in Genealogical technology. I am a real > bug about this, as you all know. I didn't know I had won until > tonight. I thought the scholarships had gone to someone else. > This is a very great affirmation of American Crossroads, and > I'm enclosing Mr. Sharbrough's e-mail to me so that you all -- my > kinship group! can share in this. > > Love, Your Grateful Cousin, > Carolyn > > Dear Carolyn, > > Thank you for your application for a GENTECH Scholarship. I am pleased > to > announce that a GENTECH Scholarship has been awarded to you. It is a > credit > to you for the work and creativity that you have shown. > > Usually the award would have been made at our conference in January. > This > year I had to chase the sponsors longer, so I was not able to confirm > the > award at the preferred time. However, we have gotten the details > squared > away now and I'd like to move ahead as follows. > > The National Genealogical Society is holding their annual conference > in > Portland OR 16-19 May, 2001 at the Oregon Convention Center (777 NE > Martin > Luther King Jr Blvd). There is a GENTECH-sponsored luncheon at 1145am > on the > 16th, presumably at the Convention Center. > > GENTECH is offering you a complimentary registration for that > conference. I > would like for you to attend the GENTECH luncheon as our guest, there > to > receive a certificate recognizing your accomplishment and the first > $500 of > your award. > > We would expect you to continue to work on the project described in > your > application, and to continue to progress in your school work. > > In January of 2002, we will pay your expenses to attend the GENTECH > 2002 > conference in Boston, MA. You will present a 20 minute talk about your > project during the "Tech Sessions" on Thursday of the GENTECH > conference. At > the GENTECH Banquet on the Friday night of that conference, you will > be > awarding a certificate to a GENTECH Scholar from the next year. > > Again, Carolyn, thanks for your application, and congratulations on > your > elevation to the status of GENTECH Scholar. > > Sincerely, > > Beau Sharbrough > President, GENTECH Inc. > > PS. Please let us know about your acceptance of the NGS conference > registration that we're offering - we'd like to fill out the paperwork > right > away. Thanks! > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!
Dear Carolyn, Let me add my congratulations to that of Mr Sharbrough, in recognition of your rugged and inovative determination to produce and maintain such high quality genealogical work as that in your AMXroads. I have just returned from a trip to Houston and found this in my Email and was absolutely thrilled for you. Love and sincere Best Wishes. Tom Pennington
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!! Shawn Woodard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn McDaniel" <cmacdee@teleport.com> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 6:06 AM Subject: [AMXROADS] GENTECH Scholarship > Dear Cousins, > I am so excited I can hardly type! Last fall I applied for a > scholarship from GENTECH, Inc. which is the organization devoted to > improvement and excellence in Genealogical technology. I am a real > bug about this, as you all know. I didn't know I had won until > tonight. I thought the scholarships had gone to someone else. > This is a very great affirmation of American Crossroads, and > I'm enclosing Mr. Sharbrough's e-mail to me so that you all -- my > kinship group! can share in this. > > Love, Your Grateful Cousin, > Carolyn > > > > > Dear Carolyn, > > Thank you for your application for a GENTECH Scholarship. I am pleased > to > announce that a GENTECH Scholarship has been awarded to you. It is a > credit > to you for the work and creativity that you have shown. > > Usually the award would have been made at our conference in January. > This > year I had to chase the sponsors longer, so I was not able to confirm > the > award at the preferred time. However, we have gotten the details > squared > away now and I'd like to move ahead as follows. > > The National Genealogical Society is holding their annual conference > in > Portland OR 16-19 May, 2001 at the Oregon Convention Center (777 NE > Martin > Luther King Jr Blvd). There is a GENTECH-sponsored luncheon at 1145am > on the > 16th, presumably at the Convention Center. > > GENTECH is offering you a complimentary registration for that > conference. I > would like for you to attend the GENTECH luncheon as our guest, there > to > receive a certificate recognizing your accomplishment and the first > $500 of > your award. > > We would expect you to continue to work on the project described in > your > application, and to continue to progress in your school work. > > In January of 2002, we will pay your expenses to attend the GENTECH > 2002 > conference in Boston, MA. You will present a 20 minute talk about your > project during the "Tech Sessions" on Thursday of the GENTECH > conference. At > the GENTECH Banquet on the Friday night of that conference, you will > be > awarding a certificate to a GENTECH Scholar from the next year. > > Again, Carolyn, thanks for your application, and congratulations on > your > elevation to the status of GENTECH Scholar. > > Sincerely, > > Beau Sharbrough > President, GENTECH Inc. > > > PS. Please let us know about your acceptance of the NGS conference > registration that we're offering - we'd like to fill out the paperwork > right > away. Thanks! > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >
Carolyn, just goes to show that people as conscientious and dedicated as you DO make a difference! Congratulations! Linda
Dear Carolyn, Congratulations on being chosen a GENTECH Scholar. You must be so proud and happy to have your work recognized in this way. I guess you will be attending the Conference after all ! Richelle
Hey Pigtails....way to go!!! You've come a long way from when you and Jan and I made those 'name this tune' phone calls to poor unsuspecting people. haha. Those were the days...but now you have REALLY found a way to make lasting memories for all of us who are in search of the ancestors who also had these silly childhood experiences. (altho they couldn't use phones of course). (; Congratulations on your dedication and accomplishment. I'm sure you are on a cloud. This will pick up your spirits and keep them high. For all of you out there who only know our distinguished cus thru the net...let me tell you...I grew up with her in remote little Heppner Oregon and we can all be proud of SMALL TOWN GIRL MAKES GOOD. Bless you and your work Carolyn. Love...Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:04 AM To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMXROADS] GENTECH Scholarship Dear Cousins, I am so excited I can hardly type! Last fall I applied for a scholarship from GENTECH, Inc. which is the organization devoted to improvement and excellence in Genealogical technology. I am a real bug about this, as you all know. I didn't know I had won until tonight. I thought the scholarships had gone to someone else. This is a very great affirmation of American Crossroads, and I'm enclosing Mr. Sharbrough's e-mail to me so that you all -- my kinship group! can share in this. Love, Your Grateful Cousin, Carolyn Dear Carolyn, Thank you for your application for a GENTECH Scholarship. I am pleased to announce that a GENTECH Scholarship has been awarded to you. It is a credit to you for the work and creativity that you have shown. Usually the award would have been made at our conference in January. This year I had to chase the sponsors longer, so I was not able to confirm the award at the preferred time. However, we have gotten the details squared away now and I'd like to move ahead as follows. The National Genealogical Society is holding their annual conference in Portland OR 16-19 May, 2001 at the Oregon Convention Center (777 NE Martin Luther King Jr Blvd). There is a GENTECH-sponsored luncheon at 1145am on the 16th, presumably at the Convention Center. GENTECH is offering you a complimentary registration for that conference. I would like for you to attend the GENTECH luncheon as our guest, there to receive a certificate recognizing your accomplishment and the first $500 of your award. We would expect you to continue to work on the project described in your application, and to continue to progress in your school work. In January of 2002, we will pay your expenses to attend the GENTECH 2002 conference in Boston, MA. You will present a 20 minute talk about your project during the "Tech Sessions" on Thursday of the GENTECH conference. At the GENTECH Banquet on the Friday night of that conference, you will be awarding a certificate to a GENTECH Scholar from the next year. Again, Carolyn, thanks for your application, and congratulations on your elevation to the status of GENTECH Scholar. Sincerely, Beau Sharbrough President, GENTECH Inc. PS. Please let us know about your acceptance of the NGS conference registration that we're offering - we'd like to fill out the paperwork right away. Thanks! ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>
Congratulations on this wonderful award you've received. I can just imagine how excited you were when you got the word of it. Love, Marilyn
Dear Carolyn, Thanks so much for your helpful comments and suggestions. I, also, am enjoying the dialogue on this unique list. My love of history began long before my interest in active genealogy research; to me, the two are one. To answer your questions, my ancestor Weedom (or Weeden, or Weedon) Wilcox was born in Rhode island ca. 1784 according to the 1850 Census for Avon Township, Lorain County, Ohio. He first appears in Ohio in the 1830 Census, residing in Sheffield Tp, Lorain, Oh. These are bordering townships in Lorain County. The 1850 census showed one son living with him, John, b. ca. 1826 in Canada. Other children were born before and after that in New York State and one in Ohio in 1830. So a journey to Canada, or a border change? needs to be researched. My cousin tells me the Gillet line in Connecticut begins in France and my father told me he was "one-eighth" French. My ancestor is Gersham Gillet, born in CT. According to a historical narrative I read, a Wilkes Gillet arrived in Troy Township, Cuyahoga County, Ohio in 1814, and he appears on the 1820 Census for Troy. Troy Tp, was eventually incorporated into Lorain County and renamed Avon Tp. The narrative stated that Wilkes was son of Gershom Gillet and brother of Liberty Gillet Loomis, and he came from New York State. The LDS IGI shows Gersham Gillet married Betsey Moe (from New York State) in Lorain County in 1825. I believe my Gersham is the son of Wilkes. As you can see, I've been trying to combine the migration research with census and other sources. I've noticed that groups of families from different states arrived in Ohio (or Avon) via New York State: such as, the CT family names that arrived in Avon, Ohio were: Gillet, Case, Loomis, Fitch, Buell, Day, Rice. RI family names were: Wilcox, Sweet, Cahoon, Moon... One final comment is that several Rhode Island researchers have advised me to also look for clues to Weedom Wilcox among the Narragansett tribe. They tell me that Weeden and Wilcox are both Narragansett names. Thanks again, Richelle