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    1. [AMXROADS] Reaffirming Our American Identity
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Beej, and Cousins: What a great commentary! And what a great quote from Mahatma Ghandi. Yes, let it begin with me. Let it begin with each of us. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/23/2001 03:16:34
    1. [AMXROADS] Kinship Research
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, Here is a wonderful example of Kinship research -- a page set up on the Revolutionary War service of Private George Hardwick of Virginia, by Shirley Hornbeck. Shirley states that George Hardwick's pension application might be of interest to many, even though he is not in their lineage. (He's not in her's either.) She's absolutely right, of course. A page like this absolutely demonstrates the value of examining history and genealogy through a Kinship/locality concept. In reading this pension document, you learn about what our own ancestor's lives were like, and also, you will see some names and localities dear to all of us, and perhaps come to an increased awareness of them. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/elro/ghardwic.htm Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To subscribe to the American Crossroads Discussion List: Send a message to: AMXROADS-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the body of the message --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/23/2001 02:59:44
    1. [AMXROADS] Re: Reaffirming our American Identity
    2. In a message dated 9/23/01 8:00:20 AM US Mountain Standard Time, AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << On the one hand we see big hearted Americanism, and on the other, fearful, small-minded cowards! Unfortunately, I fear this mixed reaction is American also. As a people we have not been ennobled overnight because of this tragedy. We will still have scoundrels and nay-sayers amid the heroes. >> Well, I am not proud to say that the first killing, murder, of one American to another American happened in my side yard so to speak. The family has taken it real hard but they are also saying that things happen for a reason. That is true also. If we think on the beginnings of our great land it has been this way from the first white foot that was steped on this, at that time, strange land. The Euro-American wanted, decried, forced their ways on the First People they encountered on this continent. We have open doors, ports, so that anyone may enter and be free but also there are those that are not able to see past a skin color. In the beginning the First People was able to do that but then greed came into being on the white mans part and they wanted more and more land. We have opened our doors, ports, to all nations, skin color, religion, etc. Many are not living what they have been preaching. They don't seem to be able to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. There has been a huge cry from many residence here in Mesa, AZ. that the sect that this family is from are Americans. They have opened their hearts, pocket books and are helping this family. The man is in jail that did the deed, he is being charged with a hate crime, which is good and just. He's bail was set for one hundred thousand dollars and I for one feel the man will not got off. He did two other drive by shootings that same evening and is charged with those also (no one killed). Our police are now watching groups that have threatened in the past to for stall another such tragety. This has been a wake up call for AZ and our nation to be good neighbors to all yellow, brown, white, tan, turbened, and we here have gotten educated to the fact that people are still comeing to this country because of religious repression. Some here are also in that game plan, and I am hoping that we can change that. Seems that history replays its self time and time again. Thank you all for being patient with me. May the Great Spirit Guide you in the days to come. "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi Beej in AZ

    09/23/2001 07:34:15
    1. [AMXROADS] Reaffirming our American Identity
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, Like all of you, I am struggling to find my way through the horror that surrounds all of us. It has been quite wonderful to see the response from the entertainment community, especially as they participated in the September 11th Fundraising telethon last night (Friday, 21). I fantacized reaching Jack Nicholson or Sly Stallone! Seeing these well-known American icons contribute their presence and their music was so impressive. Anyone wishing to contribute to The September 11th Fund may send their donations in care of United Way of New York City, 2 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016, (212) 251-4035. Donors may specify the community (New York City, Washington, D.C. or other affected areas) where they would like their contributions to help. Contributions are also being accepted on United Way of New York City's Web site at www.uwnyc.org. On the other side of the coin, it is appalling to see the negative, destructive reactions of some people toward the situation. I received the first internet scam e-mail yesterday, asking for money for a Sierra Leone woman. Please be on guard against these things! Please be sure you're devoting your energies and money to legitimate Funds and charities working to help the victims and to heal us as a people. A full 100% of the moneys contributed to the September 11th Fund will be used for victims -- no administrative fees are being deducted. There are disturbing local and national reports about Muslim people and those who simply look "middle-eastern" being terrorized -- one woman here (Portland, OR) was spat upon as she shopped for groceries for her family -- and gun sales have doubled. Who are these guns going to be used against? Other grocery shoppers wearing head coverings? On the one hand we see big hearted Americanism, and on the other, fearful, small-minded cowards! Unfortunately, I fear this mixed reaction is American also. As a people we have not been ennobled overnight because of this tragedy. We will still have scoundrels and nay-sayers amid the heroes. What is important is what we do as individuals -- what our hearts' response will be. One of our list members received a well-meant, but offensive poem written by a teenage girl about God's wrath coming down on Americans for their sinful ways. This same tune was reiterated by one of my own friends yesterday, and frankly, I have no more patience with it than our listmember did. A long time ago I decided that what I believed was God and Godly in my life was much larger than than what most prozeletizers hold forth as their own rigid, limited beliefs. The thought that someone is un-Godly, a "Sinner," or " Evil," because they hold different concepts of God than I do, is exactly what the Taliban and these petty bin Laden types are propounding, and for which they seek to inflict their judgement and punishment upon us. We will respond to the Taliban government and the bin-Laden style terrorists in a unified, American manner. To those among us who want to limit us as a people, we can respond with typical American resolve: Dear Limited God Pronouncers! Dear Hateful Intolerant Bigots! Dear Fearful Gun Toters! An old 20th century American cartoon possum named Pogo answered you best: "We have met the enemy and he is US!" I am ashamed of you, I am sorry for you, and I deny you represent what America and Americans are truly about! We have American history to guide us. One of the stars last night quoted Franklin Roosevelt's post-Pearl Harbor pronouncement on the Four Freedoms: Freedom of Speech; Freedom of Worship; Freedom from Want, Freedom from Fear. There was not enough time to elucidate on Roosevelt's entire speech, given on 6 January 1941. But there are several sites on the internet which give it, and it is just as powerful a response to terrorists (at home and abroad) as it was 60 years ago. http://www.libertynet.org/~edcivic/fdr.html Norman Rockwell created posters of the Four Freedoms, and they still are powerful American icons, housed at the National Archives: http://www.nara.gov/exhall/powers/freedoms.html The Freedom of Worship poster reminds us that this Freedom is pursued by "Each According to the Dictates of His Own Conscience." Amen. Our lives will creep forward, and our protean national definition will be enhanced in the days to come. Our national identity will be strengthened, and traditional American love of fairness and "justness" will prevail along with American justice. I am sure of it. We can look to our national history to better understand who we truly are as a people. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/22/2001 09:07:21
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] American Crossroads
    2. BEVERLY COMIN
    3. Well put classmate and friend. God bless us all. Love, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:35 AM To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMXROADS] American Crossroads Dear Cousins, I was not quite a year old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. So, even though I have some memories of WWII -- The Big One -- especially the loss of my uncle (to a kamakazi attack on his Liberty ship in the Pacific,) I have no memories of anything that compares to what has happened to our country and the spirit of our people this week. Loss is the cornerstone of emotional growth and change. It shoves us into maturity. Yesterday as television returned to regular broadcasts I watched several shows -- Oprah had Dr. Phil and the First Lady Laura Bush, and I always enjoy Judge Judy! I couldn't watch the silly sit-coms, even though I felt I needed some relief from the heavy heartedness I feel. I watched an interview with the wife and father of another of the heroes who turned the tables on the hijackers on the fourth plane. Later, I couldn't sleep -- haven't been sleeping well this week -- and so I watched Jay Leno and then Conan. I was interested in what they would say and do on their shows. Surprisingly, it was their "comedy" shows that for me, enunciated the national sense of loss. Both were visibly shaken and grieving, and humble. Both presented shows that departed from their regular format. Both had "serious" guests and did programs reflecting their feelings and their attitudes toward this horror. Both affirmed their faith in something beyond themselves. Both were trying to find new means of expression. How do we do the same? Simply, I think we must do the same. We must reach out to one another as they have done, and try to focus on the Good/ the Godliness in all of us, rather than focusing on sin and evil, or simple Differences Try to do something that improves us, helps us grow, and which extends our loving attitudes toward our fellow human beings. The primary thing is setting the example for our children -- all of "our" children -- our diverse American children As we heal and grow, we must all especially be aware of our responsibility to help our nation's children. They are our immortality, our legacy of what it means to be humane human beings and what it means to be Americans. We have have profound lessons ourselves in the last week, and we must take from the heroism and sacrifice of this past week to become living examples to the children. How do we help one another? We need to touch, and to get in touch with one another. We need to communicate our hopes and fears and love for one another. Try to do something artistic, for beauty helps heal, as we have seen and felt in the music, and displays of the flag this week. Try to do something creative, for creativity, of the heart and soul and mind as well as of the hand, is the antheisis and antidote to loss and destruction. Write your feelings. Write your thoughts for our children, write for the heroes, the victims, and their loved ones. It is a wonderful thing, and enduring. Paint a picture, sing a song or tell a story that reminds you of a loved one. Reach out with heart and hand. It is so much better to light a candle than curse the darkness. I am so proud of what I have done to create American Crossroads, and to have attracted such wonderful people to this List, with big hearts and big minds. This week, sadly, has brought to the forefront what I've been hoping to create and present. We certainly are at another Crossroads. I have never thought of the List and Site as a simple, one dimensional (usual) presentation. It has always been meant as a multi-faceted community/congregation of humane, connected people who share a great commonality through history. As a wise and wonderful African-American woman told me once, "You're not for everyone!" amd American Crossroads is a true reflection of the same make-up. We're not for rigid, small-minded people with small hearts, souls and ideas. Bigots. Watching Bill Moyers interview Robert Jay Litton on PBS this week, I learned a new word: protean. Although our specific focus is research, it is our big, vast, broad, common -- protean -- American history and heritage that will help us overcome our loss, and help us grow, and help get us through this. God Bless America. Thanks for each of you. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

    09/21/2001 02:20:08
    1. [AMXROADS] American Crossroads
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, I was not quite a year old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. So, even though I have some memories of WWII -- The Big One -- especially the loss of my uncle (to a kamakazi attack on his Liberty ship in the Pacific,) I have no memories of anything that compares to what has happened to our country and the spirit of our people this week. Loss is the cornerstone of emotional growth and change. It shoves us into maturity. Yesterday as television returned to regular broadcasts I watched several shows -- Oprah had Dr. Phil and the First Lady Laura Bush, and I always enjoy Judge Judy! I couldn't watch the silly sit-coms, even though I felt I needed some relief from the heavy heartedness I feel. I watched an interview with the wife and father of another of the heroes who turned the tables on the hijackers on the fourth plane. Later, I couldn't sleep -- haven't been sleeping well this week -- and so I watched Jay Leno and then Conan. I was interested in what they would say and do on their shows. Surprisingly, it was their "comedy" shows that for me, enunciated the national sense of loss. Both were visibly shaken and grieving, and humble. Both presented shows that departed from their regular format. Both had "serious" guests and did programs reflecting their feelings and their attitudes toward this horror. Both affirmed their faith in something beyond themselves. Both were trying to find new means of expression. How do we do the same? Simply, I think we must do the same. We must reach out to one another as they have done, and try to focus on the Good/ the Godliness in all of us, rather than focusing on sin and evil, or simple Differences Try to do something that improves us, helps us grow, and which extends our loving attitudes toward our fellow human beings. The primary thing is setting the example for our children -- all of "our" children -- our diverse American children As we heal and grow, we must all especially be aware of our responsibility to help our nation's children. They are our immortality, our legacy of what it means to be humane human beings and what it means to be Americans. We have have profound lessons ourselves in the last week, and we must take from the heroism and sacrifice of this past week to become living examples to the children. How do we help one another? We need to touch, and to get in touch with one another. We need to communicate our hopes and fears and love for one another. Try to do something artistic, for beauty helps heal, as we have seen and felt in the music, and displays of the flag this week. Try to do something creative, for creativity, of the heart and soul and mind as well as of the hand, is the antheisis and antidote to loss and destruction. Write your feelings. Write your thoughts for our children, write for the heroes, the victims, and their loved ones. It is a wonderful thing, and enduring. Paint a picture, sing a song or tell a story that reminds you of a loved one. Reach out with heart and hand. It is so much better to light a candle than curse the darkness. I am so proud of what I have done to create American Crossroads, and to have attracted such wonderful people to this List, with big hearts and big minds. This week, sadly, has brought to the forefront what I've been hoping to create and present. We certainly are at another Crossroads. I have never thought of the List and Site as a simple, one dimensional (usual) presentation. It has always been meant as a multi-faceted community/congregation of humane, connected people who share a great commonality through history. As a wise and wonderful African-American woman told me once, "You're not for everyone!" amd American Crossroads is a true reflection of the same make-up. We're not for rigid, small-minded people with small hearts, souls and ideas. Bigots. Watching Bill Moyers interview Robert Jay Litton on PBS this week, I learned a new word: protean. Although our specific focus is research, it is our big, vast, broad, common -- protean -- American history and heritage that will help us overcome our loss, and help us grow, and help get us through this. God Bless America. Thanks for each of you. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/18/2001 01:53:02
    1. [AMXROADS] Re: Error with Miami Harold
    2. In a message dated 9/17/01 4:00:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time, AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Subject: [AMXROADS] Error Hi Carolyn, I keep getting a server error when I click on the site you sent today for the Miami Herald article. Marilyn >> Marilyn: The URL is a two line deal. If you hi lite the two lines and copy them, then take your arrow and put it in the address bar at top of machine and click on paste the whole URL will go in at once. that is what I do and I got right in on the site with the URL in the article. URL is a good working site. There is a possiblity that you are in a busy area and your band width lets only so many persons in at a time. If this is the case just keep trying. Beej

    09/17/2001 06:40:01
    1. [AMXROADS] Error
    2. godave4
    3. Hi Carolyn, I keep getting a server error when I click on the site you sent today for the Miami Herald article. Marilyn

    09/17/2001 04:36:11
    1. [AMXROADS] HTML Errors in Message
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Hi Cousin Marilyn, Thanks for pointing that out -- the addresses in messages are often longer than the e-mail widths allow. What you have to do in those cases is copy the entire address, including the part that goes on in the next line. Then paste it into your browser's address field. Some addresses get very long, and having learned as I've been adding to the website, I've now taken to abbreviating more when I create addresses for American Crossroads. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/16/2001 07:06:36
    1. [AMXROADS] Re: pen Letter to a Terrorist
    2. I received this and thought the words were so correct. I hope the list members thinks so also. Beej in AZ Subject: : An Open Letter To A Terrorist ============================================= Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You hit the Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, to take out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL missed America. Why? Because of something you guys will never understand. America isn't about a building or two, not about financial centers, not about military centers, America isn't about a place, America isn't even about a bunch of bodies. America is about an IDEA. An idea, that you can go someplace where you can earn as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most part, like you envisioned living, and pursue Happiness. (No guarantees that you'll reach it, but you can sure try!) Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist litany: "If you can not see my point, then feel my pain." This concept is alien to Americans. We live in a country where we don't have to see your point. But you're free to have one. We don't have to listen to your speech. But you're free to say one. Don't know where you got the strange idea that everyone has to agree with you. We don't agree with each other in this country, almost as a matter of pride. We're a collection of guys that don't agree, called States. We united our individual states to protect ourselves from tyranny in the world. Another idea, we made up on the spot. You CAN make it up as you go, when it's your country. If you're free enough. Yeah, we're fat, sloppy, easy-going goofs most of the time. That's an unfortunate image to project to the world, but it comes of feeling free and easy about the world you live in. It's unfortunate too, because people start to forget that when you attack Americans, they tend to fight like a cornered badger. The first we knew of the War of 1812, was when England burned Washington D.C. to the ground. Didn't turn out like England thought it was going to, and it's not going to turn out like you think, either. Sorry, but you're not the first bully on our shores, just the most recent. No Marquis of Queensbury rules for Americans, either. We were the FIRST and so far, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in anger. Horrific idea, nowadays? News for you bucko, it was back then too, but we used it anyway. Only had two of them in the whole world and we used 'em both. Grandpa Jones worked on the Manhattan Project. Told me once, that right up until they threw the switch, the physicists were still arguing over whether the Uranium alone would fission, or whether it would start a fissioning chain reaction that would eat everything. But they threw the switch anyway, because we had a War to win. Does that tell you something about American Resolve? So who just declared War on us? It would be nice to point to some real estate, like the good old days. Unfortunately, we're probably at war with random camps, in far-flung places. Who think they're safe. Just like the Barbary Pirates did, IIRC. Better start sleeping with one eye open. There's a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this country, looking for opportunity, looking for liberty, looking for freedom. Even if they misuse it. The Marielistas that Castro emptied out of his prisons, were overjoyed to find out how much freedom there was. First thing they did when they hit our shores, was run out and buy guns. The ones that didn't end up dead, ended up in prisons. It was a big PITA then (especially in south Florida), but you're only the newest PITA, not the first. You guys seem to be incapable of understanding that we don't live in America, America lives in US! American Spirit is what it's called. And killing a few thousand of us, or a few million of us, won't change it. Most of the time, it's a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit. Until we're crossed in a cowardly manner, then it becomes an entirely different kind of Spirit. Wait until you see what we do with that Spirit, this time. Sleep tight, if you can. We're coming. TSgt George A. Kuechmann Sheppard AFB, TX 384th Training Squadron/XXEA Training Development dsn: 736-1499 / com: (940) 676-1499 / fax: x-3633

    09/16/2001 06:18:02
    1. [AMXROADS] America!
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Friends, Cousins, Loved Ones: A friend sent me a URL for an article by Leonard Pitts of the Miami Herald. http://www.miami.com/herald/content/features/columnists/pitts/digdocs/ 000565.htm Their site also has a download available for photos, which includes one I copied of rescue workers and the American flag at Ground Zero. Both the article and the photo are eloquent statements, and make us feel better. I think they make us feel better because each says what we are as a people. Most of us do not possess Leonard Pitts' ability to write, nor were we at Ground Zero with a camera. But we are all Americans, and we are united in other important ways. Leonard Pitts is an African-American, but he makes no reference to it. His article is written as a stunned, grief-stricken, yet resolved American-Without-A-Hyphen. This is also what we must remember, and reflect as we search for ways toward understanding our feelings in this terrible time. We need to -- we must -- reinvent ourselves, setting aside pettiness and small identities. We have to remember we are a nation of immigrants, living among the native American Indians. We have created one people over years of other wars, re-settlement, and grief, and we must not forget this is what we are -- what we have always been, but perhaps have forgotten because we have taken too specialized, too selfish, too small a look at ourselves and how we identify ourselves. We are Americans. We are a Community. We are Humane. We try to do the right thing, even though we often disagree on how to achieve that. We try to honor our American heritage by understanding one another and treating one another properly, with love, respect and compassion. We are all at Ground Zero in spirit. We are not "The Government," nor is George Bush. We are simply a part of it. We are not God, and shouldn't attempt to play God, which is the tendency of some people in times like these. As one of the ministers said at the memorial services Friday, we do not want to become like those who have attacked us, in order to secure revenge. As someone else said while commenting over the last few days, "I've never liked George Bush better than I did today," When he made his first statements, I felt much the same way. BUT, I didn't like his crude references Saturday: "we're going to "get" them. And "we're going to dig them out of their holes." I liked even less that he says he's "going to wipe out evil." A " Holy War?" To me that is just like the attitude of the Terrorists who brought us here to Ground Zero. Saturday night was the first I watched TV for any length of time in several days. I simply could not stand the sappy rhetoric of many of the commentators. To me it demeaned the Tuesday deaths and sacrifices of our heroic countrymen. Those who concentrated on the families, and facts, and details, fared better with me. But last night I watched and listed to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, and heard with my heart the sad and humble prayer at its conclusion. Then I watched Bill Moyer's presentation about bin Laden on PBS' Frontline. If you did not see it, try and catch it sometime this week, for we as a people are going to need to understand the outlook and mentality of this new enemy. In the past "The American Government" has supported one demagogue, while denouncing another. The answer, as some of the Muslims stated candidly on this program last night, has brought us here, to Ground Zero. "The American Government" has honored, supported, and even financed, International Trade Profiteers, especially Oil Profiteers, more than it has honored sacred human rights. As a people, we have supported these governmental policies without differentiating between right and wrong. We've said, for instance, "Yes, the Shah of Iran is a Son-Of-A-Bitch, but he is OUR Son-Of-A-Bitch," and we have replayed these policies in many many other political situations and countries. Now we are at Ground Zero, trying to reinvent ourselves, and we've got to do better this time around. In my own life, in my own small hometown, and in my own root family, there have been the same kinds of hatefulness and adversities inflicted simply because one person or clique wanted to be in control of the other, even in control of attitudes. One person seeks to make him/herself "right," by making someone else "wrong." As a physically and emotionally battered survivor of this kind of war, I now suffer the effects of Recurring Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, including depression, nightmares, and an inability to cope in situations that others might take in stride. Physically, my knees no longer work and I am in daily, sometimes almost overwhelming pain from that. As to finances, I often say I look up at the poverty level! This has been a hard week for me. Trauma does not even have to be directed at me to bring out my symptoms, and sadly, there are those from the past who periodically still seek to inflict traumatic meanness on me. Tuesday's attack struck us all, but strangely, it has not traumatized me. I feel amazingly connected and united with all of you and our countrymen, and like Leonard Pitts, resolute and committed in the fight against our common enemies. But like Suz, I find the beginning beat of Governmenal war drums distressful. The sound of military planes overhead on Wednesday was not reassurring, it was alarming. My personal reinvention of myself is reflected through my research, and ultimately in my writing. In reinventing myself -- re-creating myself -- I have found the means of understanding how connected we all are with one another, by blood and history. We are the story of America. We just have to come to a better understanding of all that implies within each of us. The pen is mightier than the sword. United we will find the answers we need, because they lie within the heart and soul and heritage of each of us. Love, Your Unhyphenated American Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/16/2001 06:09:35
    1. [AMXROADS] Thank you, Carolyn, plus Robards/Roberts
    2. Hi Carolyn and listmembers, Thank you Carolyn for such a touching message. I am so sorry for the pain and grief the one family has suffered and grateful for the good outcome for the other. We are linked thru this...hobby...or maybe for me it is an obsession. In any case, it links me to many good folks I would never have known existed otherwise. Of late I have gotten back to my Robards/Roberts ancestors who came from Wales to Goochland Co.VA when it was Henrico Co.VA. Sometimes I just have to let the Penningtons lie till something turns up. Most of my Robards/Roberts settled in or near Mercer Co.KY but I have been told that one direct ancestor John Robards' family settle in Henderson Co.KY. Does anyone have a clue why he would have wanted to go on further West? Does anyone have any connection to Roberts/Robards in that area? Thanks, Barb T

    09/10/2001 08:14:23
    1. [AMXROADS] INTERESTING - OCCUPATIONS
    2. Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:39:44 EDT From: SandKatC@aol.com To: IT-WHITE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IT-WHITE] INTERESTING - OCCUPATIONS In a message dated 9/5/01 1:04:07 PM, SVanben@aol.com writes: << The following was sent to me with the message: "I put these 130 items together from many sources and used it as a handout for our local Orange County (NY) Genealogical Society. I was asked by many recipients if the CHART could be forwarded to other lists or used in local newsletters. The answer is yes - please share this information." Dan Burrows - dburrows1@juno.com NAMES and MEANINGS Accomptant - Accountant Almoner - Giver of charity to the needy Amanuensis - Secretary or stenographer Artificer - A soldier mechanic who does repairs Bailie - Bailiff Baxter - Baker Bluestocking - Female writer Boniface - Keeper of an inn Brazier - One who works with brass Brewster - Beer manufacturer Brightsmith - Metal Worker Burgonmaster - Mayor Caulker - One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old ropes apart Chaisemaker - Carriage maker Chandler - Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of groceries, ship supplier Chiffonnier - Wig maker Clark - Clerk Clerk - Clergyman, cleric Clicker - The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes in boots using a machine which clicked. Cohen - Priest Collier - Coal miner Colporteur - Peddler of books Cooper - One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops, such as casks, barrels, tubs, etc. Cordwainer - Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from Cordova/Cordoba in Spain Costermonger - Peddler of fruits and vegetables Crocker - Potter Crowner - Coroner Currier - One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb; one who tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease Docker - Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo Dowser - One who finds water using a rod or witching stick Draper - A dealer in dry goods Drayman - One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for carrying heavy loads Dresser - A surgeon's assistant in a hospital Drover - One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle Duffer - Peddler Factor Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business for another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate Farrier - A blacksmith, one who shoes horses Faulkner - Falconer Fell monger - One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for leather making Fletcher - One who made bows and arrows Fuller - One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth Gaoler - A keeper of the goal, a jailer Glazier - Window glassman Hacker - Maker of hoes Hatcheler - One who combed out or carded flax Haymonger - Dealer in hay Hayward - Keeper of fences Higgler - Itinerant peddler Hillier - Roof tiler Hind - A farm laborer Holster - A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn Hooker - Reaper Hooper - One who made hoops for casks and barrels Huckster - Sells small wares Husbandman - A farmer who cultivated the land Jagger - Fish peddler Journeyman - One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft, not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day Joyner/Joiner - A skilled carpenter Keeler - Bargeman Kempster - Wool comber Lardner - Keeper of the cupboard Lavender - Washer woman Lederer - Leather maker Leech - Physician Longshoreman - Stevedore Lormer - Maker of horse gear Malender - Farmer Maltster - Brewer Manciple - A steward Mason - Bricklayer Mintmaster - One who issued local currency Monger - Seller of goods (ale, fish) Muleskinner - Teamster Neatherder - Herds cows Ordinary - Keeper Innkeeper with fixed prices Pattern Maker - A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end Peregrinator - Itinerant wanderer Peruker - A wig maker Pettifogger - A shyster lawyer Pigman - Crockery dealer Plumber - One who applied sheet lead for roofing and set lead frames for plain or stained glass windows. Porter - Door keeper Puddler - Wrought iron worker Quarrier - Quarry worker Rigger - Hoist tackle worker Ripper - Seller of fish Roper - Maker of rope or nets Saddler - One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for horses Sawbones - Physician Sawyer - One who saws; carpenter Schumacker - Shoemaker Scribler - A minor or worthless author Scrivener - Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public Scrutiner - Election judge Shrieve - Sheriff Slater - Roofer Slopseller - Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop Snobscat/Snob - One who repaired shoes Sorter - Tailor Spinster - A woman who spins or an unmarried woman Spurrer - Maker of spurs Squire - Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace Stuff gown - Junior barrister Stuff gownsman - Junior barrister Supercargo - Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the commercial concerns of the ship. Tanner - One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather Tapley - One who puts the tap in an ale cask Tasker - Reaper Teamster - One who drives a team for hauling Thatcher - Roofer Tide waiter - Customs inspector Tinker - An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman Tipstaff - Policeman Travers - Toll bridge collection Tucker - Cleaner of cloth goods Turner - A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles Victualer - An tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship with food Vulcan - Blacksmith Wagoner - Teamster not for hire Wainwright - Wagon maker Waiter - Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to collect duty on goods brought in. Waterman - Boatman who plies for hire Webster - Operator of looms Wharfinger - Owner of a wharf Wheelwright - One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages, etc. Whitesmith Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work Whitewing - Street sweeper Whitster - Bleach of cloth Wright - Workman, especially a construction worker Yeoman - Farmer who owns his own land

    09/08/2001 05:58:12
    1. [AMXROADS] Occupations
    2. godave4
    3. Thanks for the interesting occupations. This is a handy thing to have. Marilyn

    09/08/2001 04:32:56
    1. [AMXROADS] Tuxford
    2. Does anybody please have any listings of Tuxford , I am in Australia and willing to share what I have Bob Tuxford Rtuxford@aol.com

    09/06/2001 01:16:37
    1. Re: [AMXROADS] Clearfield County PA
    2. josie bass
    3. I don't have anything on Pennington, but I am dead end on my PURL & CUNNINGHAM line out of PA (Chester or Bedford) PURL 1741 1768 MA>MD>OH>IN Need info on a PURL (maybe John) who married a Cunningham, sister of Lord Cunningham of Scotland. She is buried in Centerville IN. A David Cunningham is buried nearby. any help with research in Centerville, IN appreciated. thank you, josie At 03:14 PM 9/4/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I am looking for the Pennington Family that settled in Central Pennsylvania. > They were mainly in Centre, Indiana, and Clearfield Counties. >Is there anyone out there working on these families? >Becky > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

    09/04/2001 09:46:24
    1. [AMXROADS] Clearfield County PA
    2. I am looking for the Pennington Family that settled in Central Pennsylvania.  They were mainly in Centre, Indiana, and Clearfield Counties.   Is there anyone out there working on these families? Becky

    09/04/2001 09:15:30
    1. [AMXROADS] Clearfield County PA
    2. I am looking for the Pennington Family that settled in Central Pennsylvania.  They were mainly in Centre, Indiana, and Clearfield Counties.   Is there anyone out there working on these families? Becky

    09/04/2001 09:14:24
    1. [AMXROADS] The scope of AMXROADS
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Becky and other New Subscribers: First, welcome. Becky, you asked if we are doing Pennington research. Yes, Becky, there is a Santa Claus! The Penningtons are at the heart of my original research, and I have a huge collection of information regarding Penningtons from Maryland. But along the way, what I discovered that the Penningtons and their allied families represented an entire, unique movement through the frontiers across America and thereby, American History itself. Therefore, I've used the Penningtons and my research techniques learned along the way (and a great deal through my mistakes and those of others) to begin showing others how I have started mazimizing results with computer and internet technology. I have set up this list as a sort of link between co-researchers and the American Crossroads website where I'm putting up data which demonstrates the methodologies and results I've been developing. At the heart of that methodology is the belief that doing surname research works great when you're focusing on a limited area, but it doesn't hold up when people start migrating. I believe that the old Kinship alliances that our ancestors built and carried with them is the answer. Additionally, I found that many of the surname organizations haven't gotten up to speed with trying to combine old standards and methods with new technology. Too many groups are either computer geeks OR standard genealogy researchers. I hope AMXROADS is an answer for you. We are trying to rediscover that sense of Kinship that worked for our ancestors and let is work to rediscover our ancestors! I hope that makes sense. I welcome you, and welcome your imput and your ideas. I hope we can help one another. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads Here are some American Crossroads sites for you to check out http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Balto/index.html http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Baltimore/josias.html Cecil County http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Cecil/cecil.html Cecil Families A-B http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Cecilvr/index.html The Philadelphia Perimeter http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Philadelphia/philade lphia.html Maryland My Maryland http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Maryland/index.html William Penn a 17th Century Love Story http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Guli/index.html Old Philadelphia http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/OPhil/index.html Fanny Saltar's Colonial Philadelphia http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Pennington/saltar.ht ml Burying Mary Elkton http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Abraham/elkton.html Stuart's Portrait of Nancy Pennington http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/ART/stuart.html Cecil History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Cechist/index.html Cecil County Maryland: Where Our Mothers and Fathers Lie Buried http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Homelands/cecil.html The Philadelphia Perimeter Index Page http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Philper/index.html Maryland Kinship http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Kinship/index.html The Inward Journey of Isaac Pennington http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Pennington/isaacpen. html Migrations http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Migrations/virginia. html My Pennington Family http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Pennington/penningto n.html Pennington Tuckers in the Mid-West http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Pennington/ptnmdwst. html William Marion Pennington Family http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7eamxroads/Pennington/ptnwm.htm l Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To subscribe to the American Crossroads Discussion List: --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    09/03/2001 02:57:03
    1. [AMXROADS] Prayers for Our Cousin Lou Sayers
    2. Carolyn McDaniel
    3. Dear Cousins, Please join with me to hold our Cousin Lou Sayers in your hearts, and all good thoughts and prayers. Lou will undergo surgery Tuesday. He is a childhood friend; a loving brother of our Cousin Kay. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@teleport.com ========================================= To subscribe to the American Crossroads Discussion List: Send a message to: AMXROADS-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the body of the message --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads

    08/30/2001 10:58:13