Hi Carolyn, It seems like you recently made reference to a William Pennington of MD. I am trying to get some data on the Pennington's of MD and haven't been very successful. Does anyone have any proven data or even some clues, on this William or the other MD Pennington's? Also, I'm trying to find info on John Robards/Roberts of Goochland Co. VA who m. Sarah MARSHALL, and their son, also John. After John, Sr's father, William Robards, died ca 1783, per instructions in his Will, his widow and much of his family, moved to Mercer Co.KY. However, my John and his family went to Mecklenburg Co.VA for awhile and Sarah Marshall Robards was there in 1805. John was dead by then but I can't find a Will in Mecklenburg Co.VA. After that, Sarah and her family reportedly moved to Henderson Co.KY and founded the town of Robards, KY. However, my proven John (m. Maria POE in Franklin Co.KY in 1825) died in Mercer Co.KY near the family of William Robards, i.e. Elizabeth Lewis Robards, sons Lewis Robards (ex of Rachel Donelson Jackson) George, Jesse, Robert, William, Joseph, Sallie, Elizabeth Lewis Robards, plus their families. I need to prove that the John who was dead by 1805 whose widow was in Mecklenburg Co.VA is the father of my John Robards who died in Mercer Co.KY. It seems likely since his Step-Grandmother and her large clan had moved there. But why didn't he move with the elder John's widow and family to Henderson Co.KY, way on the other side of KY? John Sr and Sarah Marshall did, indeed, have a son named John who was born within a year of the age of my proven John with wife Maria Poe. I think it looks pretty good that they are father and son, but the DAR wants proof. I have a preponderance of evidence, not proof. Any Robards/Roberts researchers on the list? I also find interesting that William stipulated in his 1783 Will that his widow and family was to move to Kentucky and he provided the money for this in his Will. He and 6 of his 8 sons received thousands of acres of land for their RW service. Oh, there was another son, James, who migrated to Granville Co. NC, right below Mecklenburg Co.VA. There were three sisters and the eldest was Jean/Jane Robards MOSBY. I think she was in Granville Co.NC also. The elder John's half-sister Sallie m. John JOUETT who was some kind of RW hero for riding and warning Washington or someone, that the enemy was coming. I think. Their son was the famous KY artist, Matthew Jouett. The last sister, Elizabeth Lewis m. William BUCKNER. Thanks, Barb T

Dear Cousins, I had the probate records address backwards. it should be: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Wmaa/probate.html Sorry. It's been one of those amazing days. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Cousins, I was prowling the internet yesterday, searching for a webpage I'd come across some time ago on Baltimore County neighborhoods which described where Josias Pennington's mills were located. As you know, I have computer problems all the time, and I couldn't find the address for it. So, I used a Google Search, and came up with a number of pages in addition to the one I wanted. http://www.livebaltimore.com/history/remngton.html One of the things that first got me interested in kinship as an identifier was the ownership of mills by many of the people the Penningtons were connected with both in Pennsylvania and in Baltimore County, and I noticed that many were also Quakers. Josias' mills and those of his father-in-law Jonathan Hanson were along the Jones Falls. I have a painting by Francis Guy of Josias' plantation and mill on another of my webpages: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Baltimore/josias.html Farmers brought their grain in from their country properties to have it ground in the grist mills that abounded along the many streams throughout Baltimore County. Daniel Pennington (a well identified Pennsylvania Quaker) owned a tract along the Gunpowder River which was named "Dusty Miller," purchased in from Jonathan Hanson, co-incidentally, Josias' father-in-law, with Quaker parents himself. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Balto/index.html I also came cross an excellent page on Surnames and Identity, which I thought sounded familiar, and turns out I wrote it! It fits right in with what we're doing. Totally amazing. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Pathways/surnames.html The new study pages are put up in connection with William Pennington AA Puritan, whose identity and relationships I am trying to understand. It is my hope that the study pages will assist you in establishing a methodology to help determine your own missing links and ancestral identifiers. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Chron/baltoland.html http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Resource/wmaa.html http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Probate/wmaa.html The next pages will reflect history of the Puritan settlement, their slow movement into what became Howard County, western Batimore County and ultimately in the 1830's Carroll County. They also moved across the Bay into the Eastern Shore counties, and they became assimilated into the traditional Church of England parishes and into the Quaker faith as well. My daughter purchased some Anne Arundel books as my mother's day present, and two have arrived. Not the two I was most interested in, but at least I have two new sets of data to add to the comparisons I have been making of these fascinating southern Pilgrims. A hearty welcome to our new subscribers, and especially to our newly discovered Cousin, Ellen, who has a Cecil County Maryland Ward family webpage. She also has some lovely family pictures, and some great maps and additional information. http://www.bcpl.net/~ellen/ward_family_tree.html NEXT! How to make your own databases. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Cousins, I've gotten a message from our cousin Marilyn, along with her 's e-mail address again, and she poses a very good question: How can Quaker dates be properly used in genealogy software programs. (Hers is Family Treemaker.) Like Marilyn, I've discovered there is no accommodation for Quaker dates, and since I don't care for most of their other features that rob the user of making his/her own determinations about the entry features, I simply have a set of rules to deal with Quaker dates. I started doing this after I sent some Quaker information to a person who was beginning research and he responded that he had found conflicting dates to what I had sent him. Boy was I embarrassed. It had been so long ago, I couldn't remember how I'd entered them, and whether they were Quaker style, or had been "translated." So I decided I'd fool the machine. (First, let me say, I only use these programs when I'm desperate for organization!) Most software has the option of entering MDY or DMY in either numerals for the dates or with the Month written out. Use the numerals for all of it, and then in the notes part of the entry, indicate that the person is Quaker and that the dates entered are Quaker dates. For instance, for a birthdate of 29th day of First Month 1736, I would enter, in DMY format, 29-1-1736. Then in the notation section I would show that the person was born 29th, First Month 1736 in East Nottingham township, Chester County, PA, and that the record came from Nottingham MM records shown in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of Quaker Records, Volume 2. Or whatever! I put every record of every person in the notations section the same way, so that when a group sheet is printed out, or a family record, it shows all of them. After that embarrassment, I ALWAYS use Quaker dates for Quakers. And now, I always recheck the work of others who are presenting information about Quaker families, and find very often that they have misinterpreted the dates of Quakers as January instead of First Month, for example. This is very disheartening. Another common failing when using Quaker information from the LDS IGI, which has lots of the records from Monthly Meetings included in it. Invariably the records will contain incorrect birth locations for children, because the dates were re-recorded at the new Monthly Meeting where the family had moved. I have often found this happened with the Ohio MM records shown as birth locations when actually the children had been born in Pennsylvania. If anyone has any better ideas for "beating the system" on Quaker dates in software programs, let's hear 'em! Dick Matson! I got your lovely records, and find lots of things that are of interest in the current study of people from AA county, and also once they moved northward to Spesutia Hundred. Thank you for sharing. I am certain it is all going to come together. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Cousins, The first page of the William Pennington of Anne Arundel County Study is UP! I keep finding one more thing and one more thing I want to add, being perfectionistic about these things. The links on the pages should be up sometime tonight. I am trying to demonstrate how kinship connection radiates outward from each community. Also I am trying to demonstrate that regardless of the surname, the research can be successfully practiced by using the methodology shown here. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Wmaa/index.html This first page demonstrates how to take a secondary source and assess and check it's accuracy against other records. Then begins the job of genealogically evaluating the information you've gleaned. Additional pages will demonstrate setting up chronologies and databases. The point is that genealogy programs do not do any of these things. They store your information, but they cannot replace plain old-fashioned reasoning. What computers and the internet can do is put you in touch with fellow researchers, and let you access information it would have taken a gadzillion years to find otherwise. I always learn a lot myself as I develop these things, and I so hope it will help all of you as well. I have been operating under a handicap again -- I moved my old computer and now it won't reveal all the secrets stored in it -- principally my e-mails and addresses from everyone, and many of my files I needed for this study! Also, my MS Outlook Express on this computer will receive but not send. I have a girlfriend who explains contrary machines this way: "They sense our fear!" But, onward and upward despite the darn things! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

This is a good site. I printed out the entire series and were 2 to a page except the first one, 8 pages of maps in all. I have a note book of maps and these go in that. One should use maps in connection with research. Beej <A HREF="http://www.us-census.org/states/map.htm#1860">The USGenWeb Census Project</A> http://www.us-census.org/states/map.htm#1860

Also, thanks WW for your kind thoughts!&nbsp; I apparently missed this on my other e-mail, and have been rechecking my "emergency" address.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm doing fine, and wish I was speedier.&nbsp; Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn ------------------------------------------------

Dear Herman, Beej, and Cousins on the List:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First, thanks for your information, Beej on the new 1930 Census release.&nbsp; It is exciting and I just wish I was near someplace where I could check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Herman, I wish I could sit and read some of those books you have.&nbsp; I checked out Warfield's History of AA county once, and like you, found it hard going.&nbsp; But maybe now that I have a little more sense of the background, I would find it easier.&nbsp; I have just purchased Barnes' "Colonial Families of AA Co"; Wright's "AA Co Church Records of the 17th &amp; 18th Centuries," and Russell's "First Families of AA Co, 1649-1658."&nbsp; I will be reviewing them with the William Pennington&nbsp;online study that I'm preparing.&nbsp; These can be purchased through Backcountry Crossroads once I get the pages up.&nbsp; Each is EXCELLENT!&nbsp; I hadn't studied AA county before, even though I have lived there.&nbsp; &nbsp;&! nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The Chews are an interesting family too.&nbsp; Samuel, son of John and Sarah of York Parish, VA and brother of Joseph of AA and Cecil, is profiled in Russell's book.&nbsp; An ardent&nbsp;Quaker, of course.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think you need to worry about your fading memory! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; ------------------------------------------------

I have a nice,but well worn library,selected by me,not a library committee, for locations I have interest in. And,over the years,snail mail,and on-line friends have added to it. For example,Cecil O'Dell's "Pioneers of Old Frederick Co,Va" and Dr Peter S Craig's "1693 Census of New Sweden " [?] were gifts from dear Friends like Dick Mattson's neighbor ,Jeannie. 25-30 years ago,I bought Warfield's 'History of Anne Arundal and Howard Co,Md" and I've worn the cover loose on it, and on some of Robert Barnes' books. Warfield is so hard to read without a map of Md,and a time chart of Md -Va events. I think maybe I'm from the coastal trader,Capt John Browne, who Hermann found on the Severn in 1660,but who Warfield also places at Plymouth,Mss,and London,England. An on-line genealogist gave him a girl in every port-a 2nd family at Salem, ne Mass,besides one near Annapolis. I have no beginning date for England to send convicts to her widely spread colonies. But I have 1640 -42 for my own Olaf Stille being sent to New Sweden a convict for trying to aid an employee escape from the nearby Lord's dungeon. I've seen poliroids of the dungeon,and the castle door,taken 340 years later. My earliest might be John Chew,1622,at Jamestown. Part of his made the migrtion from the mouth of the James River,to the West River Quakers.[My own Chew settled among the Swede's of very sw NJ 1710. ] I've watched coastal traders like Isaac Allerton,of the Mayflower,whose sone settled neighbors to Va's "Lee's,Corbin's,and Wright's. Or Francis Wright,himself-Chesapeake Indian trading ancestor of George Washington and many here at Bethel,Oh. Or Hermann,of Bohemia Manor's brother-in-law,George Hack, who traded the lower Eastern shore. If one reads "Saints and Sinners" a good,but modeat priced history of the 1620 "Mayflower" to Plymouth,you will see reported,true or not, several of the Mayflower's "Strangers" or non-church members fled to Va. Most everything I know is 2nd hand reporting,and then colored by my fading memory.

I was in this site for some time and it is great. But the big thing is that info/instructions for the 1930 Fed. US Census is online. There is so much to know that it will take sometime to digest it all. This site is suppoed to have any and all info/questions and answers. I clicked on the 1930 Census Finding Aids that is a link to more and more. <A HREF="http://www.governmentguide.com/research_and_education/personal/census/go vsite.adp?bread=*Main*research_and_education.adp?id=16101928*Research%20and%20 Education*personal.adp?id=16102058*Personal*census.adp?id=16102061*Census&url= http%3A//www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/17901890.html&CI D=16102061">Government Guide: http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/17901890.html</A> http://www.governmentguide.com/research_and_education/personal/census/govsite. adp?bread=*Main*research_and_education.adp?id=16101928*Research%20and%20Educat ion*personal.adp?id=16102058*Personal*census.adp?id=16102061*Census&url=http%3 A//www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/17901890.html&CID=1610 2061

Keep in mind the British used "TRANSPORTATION" to their colonies,of those no longer desirable. And that the 1st fleet to the prison colony of Australia was 1786,or 10 years after our July 4,1776. And remember that New Sweden,on the Delaware,1638-56 was also a penal colony. I have Puritans and Quakers,who were jailed and fined in Britian for their belief's. I have,twice,a Scotchman from n Loch Ness,Scotch Highlands,taken P.O.W. at Preston,nw England in 1715,when his Jacobite army was defeated trying to put the Catholic,James,on the English throne. Dugal McQueen was sold at Baltimore in 1716 to one of those Annapolis area ex-Puritan Quakers you mention. My own Dr Thomas Wynne,of Penn's 1682 "Welcome" had a daughter,Sidney Wynne,marry a West River Quaker,Md. Dugal McQueen's daughter-in-law,Elizabeth Berre' or Berry,was a French speaking convict shipped from London to Baltimore. There is a book about the 40,000-50,000 convicts sold on the Chesapeake. Never read it. Maryland was settled 1634,and became an OFFICIAL EPISCOPALIAN colony in the 1690's. Puritans,Quakers,Catholic's and Presbyterian fit into that 1634-90's gap.

Hi Herman, and Cousins on the List; The information I wrote about is in regard to Puritan immigration, their attitudes/motivations, paths, and settlement in Maryland in the midst of the English Civil War which took place in the 1640's. Some persons were transported, but in this period they were usually transported as servants, not for having committed some criminal offense. Being transported meant they didn't have the fare, and that someone who paid their way could claim a headright (50 acres at that time.) The persons here spread out into other parts of Maryland and in Cecil County and Delaware, did later join with the Swedes and Finns from the Upper Delaware. But, this effort is about trying to begin at the beginning -- examining the Maryland Puritans to establish an understanding of them, rather than of their descendants. That's what we've been talking about, that's down the lineage road! The methodology pages will also demonstrate how to establish true databases, that can be set up to manipulate information and make comparisons. People have gotten in the habit of calling their genealogy software results "databases." I want to show how to take a fact, put it into a table, and see if the fact fits with other facts for the same named person. The other thing I want to show is methodology for better Chronologies, which many of you do already to help determine identity. This is my idea of how to establish identity, rather than letting a machine make same named people into one person. I hope this will help people make their own databases for their own localities and history, using the methodology demonstrated for these Puritan types -- who didn't seem to remain Puritans very long, by the way. Herman, one of these days I hope you'll share the scope of your library with us. (Maybe let us know if you'll do lookups or copies??!!) You must have a truly wonderful collection of books. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

Dear Cousins on the List: I haven't been feeling well, but I haven't been just sitting around stroking my chinwhiskers because of it. I've been learning more things about research methodology, and especially about the early immigration and settlement of Maryland and Virginia. This is important because often in genealogy we have to begin at the beginning. But it's hard to tell where the beginning is! We think we know the roots of a family, only to discover that we don't at all. I've discovered that uncovering history always helps the genealogical pursuit. The history of European immigration to America begins with the changes in attitudes of people toward their personal liberty and to a much greater degree, their attitudes toward religion. Before the 16th century religious and personal freedom was minimal. The church and state were wrapped tightly together, controlling the legal, moral, and economic life of people. As religious humanists began to question this authority, changes did begin to occur within the church and even somewhat in governments, but for the most part government still meant connection to an official church. This continued in America through the colonial period. Although the Puritan Pilgrim fathers in New England are hailed as founding a New World haven for freedom of religion, they really only established a place where they could practice their own variety of religion. They put to death, cruelly maimed, beat, and banished persons (usually a death sentence due to the wilderness around them) who disagreed with them, principally Quakers. Meanwhile, back In England the process culminated in the horrors of Civil War, with the Puritan Oliver Cromwell crushing King Charles's armies, trying and beheading him in January 1649. What I didn't realize was that both Virginia and Maryland both had heavy puritan immigration, and these Puritans played a very great role in the history of the founding of both. In Maryland, Lord Baltimore, although a Catholic, had opened his doors to all Christians who sought religious freedom, regardless of the brand. He was not getting Maryland settled as quickly as he wanted, so about the time of Cromwell's takeover of the British government, Cecil Calvert, the 2nd Lord Baron of Baltimore, instructed his Governor, William Stone, to better facilitate immigration, and thus disgruntled Puritans in Virginia began to arrive in Anne Arundel County (where Annapolis, the county and state seat is.) Their gratitude for Baltimore's generosity was shown by fomenting a rebellion against him, killing several people, and taking over the government for a couple of years! About a third of these early Anne Arundel immigrants came up from Virginia. All of AA county became Providence, but for the most part their settlement was concentrated on Broad Neck, which lies between the Magothy and Severn Rivers. Interestingly, after some time, many of these Puritan families turned toward Quakerism, because they never formed a church of their own as the New England Puritans did. The early colonial records for Maryland have been remarkably well kept. Although there was a courthouse fire around 1700, many AA county land records had been duplicated in other localities. Land patents are online at the Maryland Archives, (you must first get a password for access,) along with the published Archives of Maryland, which are easily searched. http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/homepage/html/homepage.html I have been perusing three very fine books, one on the early immigrants (1649-1658) to Providence, on on the AA county church records, and one on AA colonial families. I've learned from each of them. It seems to me that what we need to learn (and re-learn) as researchers is not just how to find records, but how to interpret them. If someone has spent years collecting records and never learns proper interpretive methodology, he "might as well have stood in bed," as a famous person once said. I just came across one more hideously maimed genealogy which has been put into the LDS's IGI and sealed, and it makes my stomach churn. So therefore, I'm putting up some new pages. They have resource pages with each which includes a bibliography and weblinks, and a dialog on the history, as well as interpretations of resources. The pages are based on my own Pennington research, but please PLEASE remember the family is used as an example for methodology which can be applied to any family. The pages specifically refer to the community and kinship around the family used as an example. My study page reflecting this early AA history is based on William Pennington who came by 1658 to "Providence." The area was served by St. Margaret's Church, and Westminster Parish. Historic Londontown is an archaelogical undertaking near Annapolis. http://www.historiclondontown.com/ There is a great site by a Maryland school which demonstrates the efficacy of interactive online teaching methods. This site provides a 1734 deed from a Londontown property owner and the 1684 plat of Londontown. http://www.keyschool.pvt.k12.md.us/londontown/Pages/Pages/deed.html http://www.keyschool.pvt.k12.md.us/londontown/Pages/Pages/platmap.html This is a k-12 school! I just wish they'd had the same classes for those jerks who sealed the incorrect lineages with the Mormon church! These early families are the rootstock of America. They hold a fascinating history for all of us. It's spring! Time to dig and plant, and come to better understanding of what makes us who we are. Love, your cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

Carolyn, I had been wondering about you. I am sorry to hear of your illness; glad you are on the mend. Will look forward to more info from you when things are better. Best wishes, William Woodson ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel <cmacdee@centurytel.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: [AMXROADS] April! > Dear Cousins, > I haven't been up to par lately, and am sorry not to have been > posting anything for awhile. I caught a killer virus during the St. > Patrick's Celebrations and the effects are still with me. I've been > working on over several of the existing webpages, but have not gotten > them completed and linked. I re-did the homepage at the American > Crossroads site and couldn't get the counter to go where I wanted it! > I shoulda stood in bed, as the saying goes. Anyway, I hope to have a > flurry of pages coming soon, including Bibliographies for each of the > Perimeters and links that work in every direction. I have moved some > pages from several different servers and that has meant changing the > links each time, and that everything needs updating. > > Spring has been taking its time in arriving here. We have sorely > needed rain and April has finally brought some, so the local farmers > are grateful. I have been trying to restore my parents (and > grandparents) property that I've moved into, especially the gardendeal > with bureaucrats to try and get low-income health insurance, and while > I was under the weather, a bunch of local destroyers (aka the City > Administration and the School Board) have decided to tear down the > wonderful Old High School Building to provide additional new space for > the Grade School. (The school children only go to school four days a > week.) Education is in terrible shape here in Eastern Oregon, and it > seems to have gotten to this sorry condition because of the > small-mindedness and limited vision of the people entrusted to provide > wisdom and great vision for the community. > > Well, I'm going on hoeing my garden. > Love, Your Cousin, > Carolyn > > > Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net > ========================================= > --- Visit American Crossroads --- > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads > --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- > http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In this, doesn't look like we are listed, data information are several surnames that several persons as well as my family are researching so this will be a blanket mailing to several person. The following surnames I found in this base. ALCORN , EVERHART , PHIPPS , PENNINGTON , LEWIS , TAGUE, AND FERGUSON many with IN locations. I did not check each name unless there were only two listed but the surnames are here. A most unlikely surname data base to be looking into if it had not been for searching RootWeb Book Index and putting in the surname of Tague [http://userdb.rootsweb.com/bookindexes/cgi-bin/bookindex.cgi] and coming up with a hit of 10 and all in this data base. I certainly hope that this can be of some help to someone I know. Beej PS NancyS since you have lost so much because of computer problems, I'm sending this along to you just incase you can find something herein. <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/peffbook/index.htm">Peffley Book Index</A> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/peffbook/index.htm

Due to hard drive problems my son has put me in a new computer, all programs are not onloaded yet so am researching RootsWebs Directories for a change of pace, found the following so for what the info is of use to you I have sent it along. I found a Burton downunder! I personally feel 'you never know where an ancestor will be found'. A History of Port Melbourne by Nancy U'Ren & Noel Turnbull http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nuttall/books/portmelbourne.htm First published 1983 by Oxford University Press. ISBN 0 19 554392 0. This book focuses on the social and political history of Port Melbourne, which was originally known as Liardet's Beach, and then Sandridge. Includes a full list of councillors and mayors of the municipality up to the time of publication. Date added: 17-Nov-2000 Pemberton T. L. p.48, 49 Pemberton Thomas p. 33 Pemberton Walter p. 54 Pentington (Mrs.) p. 113

You know what they say....hoe hoe hoe. hehehe. Ok...bad joke, but then what do you expect from a cousin from the hills. haha. Hope you are feeling better. That darn virus is hitting lots of us. I've had it off and on...just when it seems to be going, it does a u-turn and here we go again. Debbie and her room mate are doing the same thing...it just keeps 'going and going.' Sort of like that energizer bunny! Debbie is the sub for her room mate, so when Jennie is sick Debbie takes her class. Bad timing tho when both have the same bug at the same time. Was so tickled to hear Jan has a beau and feels like a teeny bopper again. Go girl. Hope this helps her reconcile her father's fairly swift move into another relationship after Bobbi's death. Life does go on, and thank God for that. Jan is such a wonderful person she surely will find much happiness ahead of her. This is great news. Take care of yourself and keep me posted on that school thing. I want to be there when it comes down. IF they get it done. But I think we ought to have a WAKE if they do. Get all the old classmates together and have a grand old farewell to HHS. How's that sound? Maybe a bonfire and pep rally....of course this pep rally would consist NOT of serpentine dancing down the main street....more like taking VITAMINS to pep us up. haha. Cheers...Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn McDaniel Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:45 AM To: AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMXROADS] April! Dear Cousins, I haven't been up to par lately, and am sorry not to have been posting anything for awhile. I caught a killer virus during the St. Patrick's Celebrations and the effects are still with me. I've been working on over several of the existing webpages, but have not gotten them completed and linked. I re-did the homepage at the American Crossroads site and couldn't get the counter to go where I wanted it! I shoulda stood in bed, as the saying goes. Anyway, I hope to have a flurry of pages coming soon, including Bibliographies for each of the Perimeters and links that work in every direction. I have moved some pages from several different servers and that has meant changing the links each time, and that everything needs updating. Spring has been taking its time in arriving here. We have sorely needed rain and April has finally brought some, so the local farmers are grateful. I have been trying to restore my parents (and grandparents) property that I've moved into, especially the gardendeal with bureaucrats to try and get low-income health insurance, and while I was under the weather, a bunch of local destroyers (aka the City Administration and the School Board) have decided to tear down the wonderful Old High School Building to provide additional new space for the Grade School. (The school children only go to school four days a week.) Education is in terrible shape here in Eastern Oregon, and it seems to have gotten to this sorry condition because of the small-mindedness and limited vision of the people entrusted to provide wisdom and great vision for the community. Well, I'm going on hoeing my garden. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Cousins, I haven't been up to par lately, and am sorry not to have been posting anything for awhile. I caught a killer virus during the St. Patrick's Celebrations and the effects are still with me. I've been working on over several of the existing webpages, but have not gotten them completed and linked. I re-did the homepage at the American Crossroads site and couldn't get the counter to go where I wanted it! I shoulda stood in bed, as the saying goes. Anyway, I hope to have a flurry of pages coming soon, including Bibliographies for each of the Perimeters and links that work in every direction. I have moved some pages from several different servers and that has meant changing the links each time, and that everything needs updating. Spring has been taking its time in arriving here. We have sorely needed rain and April has finally brought some, so the local farmers are grateful. I have been trying to restore my parents (and grandparents) property that I've moved into, especially the gardendeal with bureaucrats to try and get low-income health insurance, and while I was under the weather, a bunch of local destroyers (aka the City Administration and the School Board) have decided to tear down the wonderful Old High School Building to provide additional new space for the Grade School. (The school children only go to school four days a week.) Education is in terrible shape here in Eastern Oregon, and it seems to have gotten to this sorry condition because of the small-mindedness and limited vision of the people entrusted to provide wisdom and great vision for the community. Well, I'm going on hoeing my garden. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn Carolyn McDaniel cmacdee@centurytel.net ========================================= --- Visit American Crossroads --- http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads --- Visit Backcountry Crossroads --- http://www.backcountrycrossroads.com

Was in a list I am a member of, am passing it along to others I know. There are some other good links from this one, check them out..........Beej Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:38:55 -0600 From: "Diana Boothe" <philsbarbie@hotmail.com> To: NJ-OLD-NEWSPAPERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJ-OLD-NEWS] Chart To Calculate The Year Of Birth From The Census I found this website, thanks to another list that I am a member of, and just had to pass it on!! It seems to be a MOST helpful resource..... "Chart Used To Calculate The Year Of Birth From The Census" http://jerry.vigo.lib.in.us/washington/CENDATES.HTM Take care, Diana

My own Brown's were part of a colony that seemed close to Christopher Gist,and his son,Thomas.The island in the Ohio River at Weirton,WV panhandle-Stubenville,Jefferson Co,Oh was 1st Thomas Gist's,and then named Brown's Island, for Col Richard Brown. Quite a colony of nw Baltimore people in that section of the WV panhndle 1773+. Edward Stevenson's Mary m George Brown[e] about 1710-20,and had 12-18 kids-lastly at Westminster,Md. Edward's widow m Henry Sater,and Md's 2nd Baptist church was formed-that went in part,as a congregation to the Mills-Beals Mill Creek Baptist NEIGHBORHOOD OF Frederick-Berkeley Co,Va 1740's,and ,in part,returned to Md 1755 indian war time. From St Thomas Episcopal, [and some Catholics],some became Md's 1st Methodists,1760's. BROWN girls m Richard Wells,of James;John Baxter,John Sappington, and? Brown boys m Durbin-Logsdon,Wells-Holmes,McQueen, Barnes,RichardsBarney, more Dugal McQueen's m Edward Logsdon,and John Brown,and Tom McQueen m Eliz Berry.[not Hardin-Ashby cousin Berry],Wm West