Dear Cousins on the List: This next week -- the 18th of June -- marks the 50th wedding Anniversary of our Cousin Dick Matteson and his wife. We are privileged to be able to share in the joy of celebration of such a beautiful event, vicariously, to be sure, but still honored to know them in the ways we can, and be a part of it and be a part of people who can achieve such a marvelous thing! I love William Butler Yeats, and love his sentiment: "Think where man's glory most begins and ends, Then say my glory was I had such friends." So it is to Yeats I've turned for an Anniversary gift: "The Wild Swans at Coole." Happy Anniversary Mattesons! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn THE TREES are in their autumn beauty, The woodland paths are dry, Under the October twilight the water Mirrors a still sky; Upon the brimming water among the stones Are nine and fifty swans. The nineteenth Autumn has come upon me Since I first made my count; I saw, before I had well finished, All suddenly mount And scatter wheeling in great broken rings Upon their clamorous wings. I have looked upon those brilliant creatures, And now my heart is sore. All's changed since I, hearing at twilight, The first time on this shore, The bell-beat of their wings above my head, Trod with a lighter tread. Unwearied still, lover by lover, They paddle in the cold, Companionable streams or climb the air; Their hearts have not grown old; Passion or conquest, wander where they will, Attend upon them still. But now they drift on the still water Mysterious, beautiful; Among what rushes will they build, By what lake's edge or pool Delight men's eyes, when I awake some day To find they have flown away?

Dear Beej, and Cousins, Aw shucks! Thanks, Beej. I find it all so fascinating, you see. I start investigating one thing and it leads to 500 others. Could be why I never get anything finished. I tried a search for you on Google.com using John Burton Maryland Delaware Virginia. It is just amazing what you find. Try it, you'll like it! One very special reminiscence from the early 1900's on the Virginia Eastern Shore is just wonderful to read, and like our Cousin Dick Matteson's quotes from his father-in-law's journal, is the stuff of real history. GHOTES (Genealogy and History of the Eastern Shore site: http://www.esva.net/ghotes/lifeonfarm.htm Also I like to go back to special websites or information in books after I've been away for awhile and have gained new insight in the interim. The new information I've been investigating about the Maryland Puritans in Anne Arundel County has given me a whole new slant on the way I'm thinking about the early Maryland settlers. Also I delight in finding things that others have missed! While browsing the internet this morning, as I do daily, I came across some Loftin / Teague / Pennington pages. Several gave the standard misinformation that William Teague married Isabella Pennington. Some gave the also standard misinformation that William Teague married Isabella Loftin! Some gave Isabella E. Pennington and some gave Isabella E. Loftin. No explanation of where the "E." came from. Same place as the Loftin and the Pennington surnames, one imagines. Some gave dates of birth for the entries, although they had no way of knowing whether that was accurate or not. One page, a Teague Resource Page, http://www.teagueonline.freeserve.co.uk/R&B/MD1001.html under the heading of "William Teague & Isabella E. Pennington, Maryland" is the following statement: Steve Connolly (connolly@twics.com) writes: "Occasionally, the following is published on various genealogy sites as fact: William Teague b. ca 1693, Cecil County, MD, wife Isabella Loftin b. 19 Dec 1693. However, several very assiduous researchers have been UNABLE to verify that. It is also possible that the wife referred to was Isabella Pennington (ca 1697, Cecil County, MD). One of those researchers, Ashley Loftin, was kind enough to send me photocopies of records that he had examined during his years of hands-on research. Indeed, there is no reference to anyone but an Isabell/Isabella. This is an on-going unsolved gap in our information. Unless solid evidence has come to light (evidence many of us would love to examine), please be advised that this controversy exists for both the Loftin/Lofton researchers and the Pennington researchers. We all have to remain vigilant about publishing conjecture as fact." This is a very commendable attitude, but unfortunately the pages that follow do not observe it. It is a pity, because this is a surname organization where the information is lively, nicely presented, and well indexed. The lively part contains a ca. 1924 newspaper article on "Harmless Joe Teague," which is absolutely priceless writing: http://www.teagueonline.freeserve.co.uk/default1.html The Teagues have a great deal to do with both the Loftins and the Penningtons. Other surnames: (Van) Swearingen, Brown, Barnes, Sheppard, Boring / Boren, Ray, Brock, Watts, McDaniel, Coffey, Davis, etc. and m-m-m. (I even found a previously unknown Teague / Brock connection that ties into my mother's side of my family with the Smiths and Watts in Van Buren (Cass) County, Missouri.) The Teagues were in proximity to both Pennington and Loftin families along the Susquehanna River where Abraham Pennington first took up his property Greenberry / Greenbury ca. 1695. And they were there again in the Frederick County, VA locations and on into the Carolinas as well. An old Teague newsletter published in the 1970's is given as the reference for the information on Edward Teague's family. Folks! That is not a reference! Ancestral File is not a reference! WFT #0000 is not a reference! A reference is a citation for an original document. HOWEVER, in the newsletter, there IS a reference to documents in the Maryland Archives containing an 1675 immigration record for Edward Teague, who was imported by Thomas Jones of Somerset County, MD. They go on to say that nothing further has been found, they estimate Edward Teague's birthdate at 1660. The record is: "June 8, 1675 "'Eodem Die (this day) Thomas Jones proved his right to two hundred and fifty acres of land for transporting himself, Edward Teage, John Edmonds,Sr., Rebecca Edmonds, John Edmonds, Jr. into this Province to inhabit." I looked at the online Maryland Archives and found in Volume 87, the Somerset County Court (Judicial Record) October 25, 1671 - October 20, 1675, that later that year in October 1675, Thomas Jones went before the Somerset county Court, taking his servant, Edward Teague: "Thomas Jones brings his servant Edward Teage before the Cort: & Prayes the worpll: Cort: to Judge of his age he y sd: Edward Teage Comeing into this Province without Indentures; After A full veiwe had by the Justices setting in Cort: of the said servant Edward Teage This Cort: Doe adjudge him the sd: Edward Teage ffoureteene years of age" On the same page is a reference to Ambrose DIxon, who has been identified as a Quaker who came up from Virginia, who was the step-father of a Henry Pennington. (NOT Henry of St. Mary's and Cecil Counties.) I wonder if anyone has ever investigated the possibility of this Henry Penington's sisters, or daughters being the Pennington connection to the Teagues, et all. Henry Pennington of Somerset county married Margaret who is also referred to in the Maryland Archives as having a bastard child before she married Henry. The archives contain more information about Ambrose Dixon and Henry. Our history is even better than Days of our Lives, isn't it? Love, your Cousin, Carolyn

Carolyn: You amaze me with your vast knowledge in what we do here. I assumed that when it was mentioned it represented, hide as120 acres, as we know it, that it was maybe brought over the pond in early times so to speak as a unit of measure that they would know. I stand corrected and the humor it brought to the list I thought refreshing. I am very far behind an anything of your list as I am still racking my brain for my ggg grandfathers parents and even tho the DAR has him marked as a veteran I can't get a handle on records for him as yet. Three ladies with the organization has looked and with no luck. They get the name but living and death times and places have been all wrong. So then we have to return to square one again. School will be out soon and I will have all summer to work on him. When I read all that you have accomplished with your research I then get lifted up and a renewed hope that I to will surmount my brick wall. Yours in the love of our hobby of genealogy............................Beej In a message dated 5/25/02 3:00:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time, AMXROADS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << As far as I know, neither bald cows, nor hides as a land measure were present in the American colonies. But the term hides was the most ancient term of English land measurement, coming from the native Angles and the Saxon invaders, and being prominently used in feudal arrangements and exchanges. It was not a measurement in the sense we think of as so many acres, so much as it was a measurement of a holding, originally with the Lord of the Manor and his tenants, and later, for tax purposes. >>

Dear Dick, and Cousins, Thank you so very much for sharing the beautiful personage of Dr. Elmer Taylor Swann. It would appear that he not only wrote his own memorial with his journal, but in Whitman's words, his "very flesh became a great poem." You and your wife are so fortunate to have been within the circle of love that radiates outward from the life of such a generous-spirited person. If you are further interested in the beginnings of writing history (which your father-in-law's journal certainly is) and wish to explore the timeless circles of connection, you might like to read -- or re-read in the context of your father-in-law's history -- Thucydides's "History of the Peloponnesian War," written in 434 B. C. E. It is full of tyrants, barbarians, predators (pirates,) and heroes! All nearly 2500 years ago. It boggles the mind that so little changes if we begin understanding history. http://classics.mit.edu/Thucydides/pelopwar.1.first.html I was going to recommend a Swann webpage that was formerly connected to the Cecil GenWeb pages, but I can no longer get it to come up. Alternatively I will tell you that the beginnings of my Maryland search for answers for my Penningtons came about through reading a genealogy of the Litzenberg family of Greene County, PA. I believe it holds the key to many Maryland interconnected circles of relationships. These Litzenbergs started out in the Philadelphia Perimeter, principally Radnor township of Chester County which became Delaware County. In 1780 George Litzenberg married Grace Coats outside the Quaker faith, which got her disowned. After the revolutionary War they moved near Winchester (Frederick County, VA) where they remained to about 1799 when they returned to the Greene and Washington County PA areas. Their daughter Rachel is said to have married a Levi Pennington during their Virginia sojourn. Another son, George married Rebecca Swan. Levi Pennington and Rachel Litzenberg had only two children, Jacob, b. 1803 and Mary b. 1806. Thereupon Levi vanished from the face of the earth. At least as far as the Litzenbergs are concerned! Jacob married Christina Areford ca. 1825. Some of this Litzenberg/Pennington family went to Knox County, Ohio. Some went to Illinois, near Chicago and also to Fulton County, and some to Missouri. George Litzenberg who married Rebecca Swan ultimately went to Johnson County Iowa where in 1863 he performed the 2nd marriage of the person who has turned out to be my ancestor John Pennington, to Elizabeth Selby. They had also lived in Guernsey/Belmont counties, OH. John served in the War of 1812, enlisting with his putative brother Jesse in western Baltimore County, MD. I believe this Levi (if indeed he was named Levi) Pennington may have connection to Abraham the Indian Trader, to Isaac Pennington who lived in Clinton County, OH, and to Abraham who lived in Highland County, OH. I think the Arefords are likely Alfords who lived in Hampshire County, VA. The original information came from "The Litzenberg Family in America," published in the 1940's, and a devoted descendant, Paul Roos (who lives in Gaithersburg, Dick) has copied all of it into a gedcom and put it at Ancestry.com where it can be seen without subscribing to Ancestry. I wrote a long dissertation that expanded on these connections and sent it to Pennington Pedigrees where it was edited without permission (my dates were changed from genealogical format and put into MM/DD/YY numerals) and cut in half, and the second half was never published. So it goes. I think I will put it up at the website, but in the meantime if anyone wants a copy, I will be happy to provide it. Dick, thank you so much for telling us about your wonderful father-in-law. It makes Memorial Day take on very special meaning for us, within our virtual community. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Carolyn and everyone else, We're just over a really bad computer virus, KlezH. I urge all of you to go to symantec.com, (the Norton Utilities folks,) read about the virus and download their fix. It's a nasty one, infects your address book, sends itself to everyone in your address book, always with different headers and body copy, including telling you how to get rid of it! It froze us up so badly that we had to completely wipe our two computers, and re-install EVERYTHING. Still inputting all the address book entries, which we had to print out, as the file was infected. The whole process took us three days. Jim P.S. It's so sneaky and low-level that it waltzes in right under Macafee and Norton anti-virus.

Carolyn, It would be impossible for me to express those very important ideals in self development in a more relevant fashion that you have today! You speak of one of my heroes - Walt Whitman - and by your choice you evoke in me a kind of bonding that defies description.... I believe that I always looked forward to seeing my father in law. Upon reflection I realize that he simply never was in the business of judging others behavior and ideas. He fully expected to like all others and of course they always liked him. He was a "county" Doctor in Henderson County IL. His pay for many years (early 1930s especially) was melons, potatoes, venison and the like. He never kept books on what was owed or who had paid with what and when. Children and young people were listened to when ever they spoke to him and he would laugh with everyone as if the joke was absolutely new! This unassuming fellow they had for a doctor was a keen observer of people and their lot and oftimes he would pull out bills from his pocket and asked folks if they would hold 20 bucks for him for a couple of months as he found it difficult to get to the bank! Loans were not really loans so the joy of seeing him was always insured! Elmer Taylor Swann MD kept a diary during his training and participation in WWI. He was a graduate of Lawrence College in WI and taught school for 4 years before enlisting in 1918 He was placed in a training group for Medics in Texas and then shipped to France. Every day he entered something into his diary until he was hit by German shrapnel while carrying a soldier back from no-man's land at Chateau Thierry. The diary was found by chance by a friend and returned to him 8 months after he had recovered from his very serious wounds and was home with his parents. I have been reading and studying it for family names and places as I try and develop both context and connections in my wife's neat family. It turns out that Dr. Swann has written his own memorial and I will share some selected entries now: "We are not able ,this year, to get to either of our parents grave sites who served in the 1st WW. however I was reading my father-in-law's diary (Elmer Taylor Swann M.D. b. 1892 d.1968).and his accounting of his involvement and wounding in the Chateau-Thiery engagement. I thought that I might share a few entries - I have been mesmerized whilst reading! [E.T Swann was trained in a field recovery team ( finding and treating and bringing back wounded and dead to their lines) This involved much exposure to enemy fire so members appear to have almost blocked out the dangers of their job! E.T. Swann and his team were placed with a French Unit temporarily and therefore the entries reflect this to some degree - although both American and French soldiers show up due to their closeness and common purposes. He identifies his unit as " Medical Detachment 127 Infantry 32 Division"] "Thursday July 18, 1918 Hot or cloudy by spells - Observation Balloons up from both sides. Few Avions flying about for exercise. Sit out under a tree watching rockets and illumination bombs until midnite - A mighty interesting sight! Oebisher and Lee pay me the 65 franks they owe me." "Monday July 22, 1918 Up at 6 bells but didn't leave until 11:30 - so goes military rulings. Very hot march to Mollivars where we entrained at 5:00pm left at dusk Hit Belfort before going to sleep Scenery beautiful Slept on floor of boxcar had plenty room and straw to stretch out and sleep soundly. We Medics had half of car - Supply Co. had rations in other side with a Sergt & Corporal. Beaucoup d'mange!" "Thursday July 24, 1918 Slept very hard - had 5 blankets for 2 of us on some straw. Brown and I bought a bunch of eats at French Canteen. Got a haircut -fine- 1frank at A Co. Boucoup poker games, many disagreements, C.S. Alexander looked as tho a train had run over him when he came out of the game. Downtown tonite - visited a British Canteen conducted by two English ladies - very sociable! Rain tonite Town has been aero-bombed" "Aug 3rd Awakened up on a hill up and out of Chateau Thiery - Little to eat so Sawyer and I hike 5 kilometers to 3rd Division Commissary where , after closing hours, a I.M. Capet sells us a lot of canned fruit and American crackers. Fine* Fine* He was a real fellow! Got halfway back to find our Regt. leaving. Brown had made up and thrown my pack in the Reg. trunk. A hard and jerky march to a big woods. heavy scent from dead horses and men. Germany driven out of there 36 hours ago. They are using little infantry" "Friday Aug 3, 1918 Germans on the run.. where we are in midst of machine guns and 77s all is quiet. Water here makes me feel rotten also others. Germans retreating 7 or 8 kilometers with us on their heels. I picked up a German automatic pistol and watch. Weather rainy. Many dead on field, mostly Germans. We move up several kilometers past where Germans were driven from strongpoint yesterday. Woods and fields strewn with men and equipment of all descriptions." [I should add that he nearly had his arm blown off the next day when two of his team were instantly killed they continued to pull the wounded and dead to their lines until he was hit. They received the Croix de Guerre for their bravery and Elmer also got a Silver Star added with two clusters] Dick Matteson College Park, MD

Dear Cousins, It seems to me that as family historians we memorialize our Ancient People all the time, even though it is nice to have a special time to do that with those who were nearest to us. We have had a very cold dry spring here in Northeastern Oregon, and so the peonies and iris that I usually take over a 200 mile or so circuit of family graves, are not quite ready today. But it was very warm yesterday, so perhaps as the "real" Memorial Day approaches, they will be fully bloomed, and I can distribute them in the traditional way. History is all about memory and memorial. Through our research we honor the early people who contributed their genes to making us who we are. DNA studies now seek to see if someone is related to another who may share a common ancestry, but I'm not sure that is the same kind of memorial, however. It seems to me as we search out records, interpret ancient spellings, uncover stones buried by weather and time, that we do much more than prove a lineage or connection to one person. It seems to me that we honor the sacred connection we all have to a common past, and the duty we have to understand the truths these memorials have to offer. Doing these things is a matter of respect for all those who have brought us to our own places in time and history. Our lives too are memorials. As we pass through that process, do we leave monuments to rapaciousness and meanness, or leave a trail of maimed and abased people in our wake? Practicing good rules in structuring our daily lives begins the creation of our own history and memory, and seems a very Godly thing to do. I have memorialized some of Walt Whitman's beautiful comments on a large screen that I've created to represent some of my ideas along this line. It speaks to me daily: "This is what you must do: Love the earth and the sun and the animals; despise riches. Give alms to everyone that asks. Stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others. Hate tyrants, argue not concerning God. Have patience and indulgence toward the people. Take off your hat to nothing known or unknown, or to any man or numbers of men. Go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with mothers of families. Dismiss whatever insults your own soul and your very flesh shall become a great poem." I hope you all have a memorable holiday. Love, your cousin, Carolyn

Hi Cousin Ellen, I just spent lots of time going through your web site. It's great and I can see you've done a lot of work on it. Thanks for sharing it with us. Marilyn

There's also "hide nor hair," having to do with missing, bald cows. Of course, it's entirely possible I just make this stuff up as I go along, because it's so much fun. Apologies to the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cookman" <psycheprod@worldnet.att.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [AMXROADS] Hide - a unit of measure? > Whence comes the phrase "neither hide nor hare," for one with absolutely > nothing, including the proverbial pot for you-know-what... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PasaPeruva@aol.com> > To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:20 PM > Subject: [AMXROADS] Hide - a unit of measure? > > > > That is correct. I was looking in the dictionery for correct spelling to a > > word and I noticed this hide with three seperate bold face headings. I > read > > each and the last one just surprised me to pieces. It goes as follows: > > > > hide (with a small 3 above the e), n. old English measure of land, usually > > 120 acres, concidered adequate for one free family and its dependents. > [ME; > > OE hid (e), > > hig(i)d, f. hig(an) family, household + - id, suffix of apurtenance] > > The American College Dictionary - page 570, column 1, bottom of page. > > > > Maybe you all already know this. I have not delt with early land records > of > > the colonies as yet. Then to maybe they did not describe the land in this > > way manner. > > I find so many learning things in my research that leads me to many > things. > > I do hope this info will help someone on the list. > > Now if I see that in an old land record I will know what it means. I > shall > > keep a copy of this in my files as reference. > > > > Beej > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Beej, Jim, and Cousins, Jim, we know you are toying with us! As far as I know, neither bald cows, nor hides as a land measure were present in the American colonies. But the term hides was the most ancient term of English land measurement, coming from the native Angles and the Saxon invaders, and being prominently used in feudal arrangements and exchanges. It was not a measurement in the sense we think of as so many acres, so much as it was a measurement of a holding, originally with the Lord of the Manor and his tenants, and later, for tax purposes. When William the Conqueror arrived with a new batch of invaders, the Normans, the term was used in compiling his great assessment of the conquored lands, The Domesday Book (pronounced doomsday.) The Domesday assessment provides a sort of census, just as early American colonial tax assessments do. You can examine the Domesday Book online. It was created 20 years after William the C's invasion in 1066. It is a stunning document, and the beginning of all that we think of as "English." http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/ Jim, you must never apologize for having a sense of humor! We need it, and enjoy your lightheartedness. And, you SEEM to be harmless! Love, your cousin, Carolyn

That is correct. I was looking in the dictionery for correct spelling to a word and I noticed this hide with three seperate bold face headings. I read each and the last one just surprised me to pieces. It goes as follows: hide (with a small 3 above the e), n. old English measure of land, usually 120 acres, concidered adequate for one free family and its dependents. [ME; OE hid (e), hig(i)d, f. hig(an) family, household + - id, suffix of apurtenance] The American College Dictionary - page 570, column 1, bottom of page. Maybe you all already know this. I have not delt with early land records of the colonies as yet. Then to maybe they did not describe the land in this way manner. I find so many learning things in my research that leads me to many things. I do hope this info will help someone on the list. Now if I see that in an old land record I will know what it means. I shall keep a copy of this in my files as reference. Beej

Whence comes the phrase "neither hide nor hare," for one with absolutely nothing, including the proverbial pot for you-know-what... ----- Original Message ----- From: <PasaPeruva@aol.com> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: [AMXROADS] Hide - a unit of measure? > That is correct. I was looking in the dictionery for correct spelling to a > word and I noticed this hide with three seperate bold face headings. I read > each and the last one just surprised me to pieces. It goes as follows: > > hide (with a small 3 above the e), n. old English measure of land, usually > 120 acres, concidered adequate for one free family and its dependents. [ME; > OE hid (e), > hig(i)d, f. hig(an) family, household + - id, suffix of apurtenance] > The American College Dictionary - page 570, column 1, bottom of page. > > Maybe you all already know this. I have not delt with early land records of > the colonies as yet. Then to maybe they did not describe the land in this > way manner. > I find so many learning things in my research that leads me to many things. > I do hope this info will help someone on the list. > Now if I see that in an old land record I will know what it means. I shall > keep a copy of this in my files as reference. > > Beej > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Marilyn, There are underscores between the words, like this ward_family_tree.html. Alternately you can just go to my home page, http://www.bcpl.net/~ellen/ and choose Family Tree. Any suggestions, additions, and/or corrections are greatly appreciated! Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "godave4" <godave4@cableone.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: [AMXROADS] Ellen's web page > I can't get the web page you posted to come up on my computer. > Marilyn > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Marilyn and Cousins, I'm about 0 for 80 in my recent postings. It came up for me, but try either of these again. http://www.bcpl.net/~ellen/genealogy_index.html http://www.bcpl.net/~ellen/ward_family_tree.html Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

I can't get the web page you posted to come up on my computer. Marilyn

Dear Cousins, In the last message I have 45 regicides in one place (relied on memory) and 59 in another (relied on referenced Regicides webpage.) I think you know which is accurate. Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Dear Barb, Cousins on the list,and Jim Cookman, funny guy! It seems likely to me that the first William the Anne Arundel County, MD Puritan, came up from Virginia with the other Virginia puritans in 1649 . Barb, read the last major page I put up: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Wmaa/index.html The standard, classic reference for Maryland immigrants has been Gust Skordas' "Early Maryland Immigrants," which was based on records at the Maryland Archives where Skordas was an associate archivist. Skordas gives the date 1658 for William the Puritan, but in my most recent research on these fascinating people, I learned that the correct terminology should be, "by 1658." It makes quite a difference in establishing the identity of William and his descendants, and I am sure that understanding and applying the correct terminology for countless other Maryland immigrants is equally important. The book I'm using, "First Families of Anne Arundel County MD, 1649-1658, The Landowners" gives short biographies of these earliest people who were part of the Puritan immigration, occurring at the time Charles I had been defeated and beheaded by Richard Cromwell, the "Roundhead" leader. Isaac Pennington the Elder was one of Charles' principal persecutors. He was "an ardent Puritan," (all those Puritan guys were ardent, weren't they?) sat on the long and rump Parliaments, and was among those who tried Charles I for treason. He did not sign the death warrant for Charles, however, as did few other than the bloody coterie around Richard Cromwell. Only 45 people signed, and this hard core group are called "The Regicides." But technically, Isaac "the Elder" was certainly a regicide by intention and behavior. Charles II accorded him among the worst of his father's persecutors, and had him imprisoned in the tower where died at the end of 1660 before being executed. There is an especially good website "The British Civil Wars & Commonwealth," which details each of the 59 regicide signatories, and others who may not have signed but who nevertheless were prominent in bringing about Charles' execution. http://www.skyhook.co.uk/civwar/biog/regicides1.htm Characteristic of the pitiful quality of research on the early Penningtons (even the most prominent, which this family is) is the information contained in the LDS Ancestral file for Isaac the Alderman, and Isaac the Quaker. Children are ascribed where none of those names existed in the family, and one takes the nickname "Ned" for Edward and turns it into another child of Isaac the Q. Dates are wrong -- on and on. American Crossroads has published two pages with accurate information on this family. 1. The Inward Journey of Isaac Pennington, pages 1and 2, Page two includes a chart prepared by a London genealogist. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Pennington/isaacpen.html http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Pennington/ipen2.html 2. Old Philadelphia Families XLVII Penington by Frank Willing Leach in 1908, which our cousin Marilyn Kucera had obtained from the Chester County Historical Society and passed on to me and our cousin Jim "Funny Guy" Cookman, who is a descendant of Isaac the Q, and of course, Isaac the Alderman. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Isaac/isaac.html Why is this all important? Because the political and religious involvement (one and the same thing) -- or the HISTORY of Isaac (The A) in England suggests a connection to the HISTORY of William the AA County Puritan arriving in 1649, likely from Virginia, along with the fomenters of an "echo" revolution in Maryland. Just as Jim states in his last message. Now Jim, tell us what information has inspired your comment! Henry Pennington, who also immigrated to St. Mary's County (Catholic beginning) Maryland at about the same time, was the ancestor of the Sassafras Penningtons in Cecil County, from whom I believe I descend, while two other batches of Cecil located families seem likelier to be connected to William of AA county. These are Robert, John and William Pennington who all married around 1711-1715 and lived on Bohemia Neck of Cecil County. The other batch is Abraham the Trader and his brother John of North East, who lived near the Susquehanna River on the Western Shore, near Harford County. Henry possibly has been misinterpreted too, as a person transported for service, when some of the things I find at the Maryland archives suggest that was not the case. In the early 1660's he served on juries, and even brought a defamation suit, which alludes to his house, so it doesn't appear to me that he was a servant. There are many inferences of connection between Henry's descendants and Williams' and this is part of what I am currently working on. It could be simply proximity rather than relationship. There is yet another Pennington -- James -- in Calvert and AA county who may have connection as well, and so far as I know, he has never been explored as a progenitor. A Thomas, Richard, Henry and a possibly misidentified John appear on the 1701-1706 Baltimore County tax lists. I feel Thomas is a descendant of William the Puritan, and also a good candidate for Abraham and John's father or brother. He was in Spesutie Hundred which was in their neck of the woods. The others? -- I'm working on it. If anyone has printed copies of the Baltimore County tax lists for this period, I could sure use some help. Also, AA County in 1730's. I have a good chart which depicts most of the early Maryland families, but needs some revision for William now that I know that Skordas meant "by 1658" not "in 1658." And some other things, too. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Baltimore/index.html Barb, I have indication of Pennington - Roberts connection in Cecil County and in Pennsylvania and one AA county baptism in 1695 for a Roberds, but I don't have anything that indicates a predilection toward that spelling. I have had terrific success using multiple keyword searches in Google. A last thought on all of this: All these people moved UPSTREAM! Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn

Is that Puritan Probate or Puritan Reprobate?? Ho ho, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn McDaniel" <cmacdee@centurytel.net> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: [AMXROADS] William the Puritan Probate records > Dear Cousins, > I had the probate records address backwards. it should be: > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~amxroads/Wmaa/probate.html > > Sorry. It's been one of those amazing days. > > Love, Your Cousin, Carolyn > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I've seen material that strongly suggests that William of Maryland is the son of Sir Isaac, and brother of Isaac the Quaker. For the PRA folks, that would effective combine two groups. I know there was a William, brother of the Q, but can't prove that these two Willies are the same. Perhaps Carolyn and I are closer cousins than we think. Jim Cookman ----- Original Message ----- From: <keenebj@juno.com> To: <AMXROADS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:29 AM Subject: [AMXROADS] William Pennington of MD and some Robards/Roberts of VA-KY > Hi Carolyn, > It seems like you recently made reference to a William Pennington of MD. > I am trying to get some data on the > Pennington's of MD and haven't been very successful. Does anyone have > any proven data or even some clues, on this William or the other MD > Pennington's? > > Also, I'm trying to find info on John Robards/Roberts of Goochland Co. VA > who m. Sarah MARSHALL, and their son, > also John. After John, Sr's father, William Robards, died ca 1783, per > instructions in his Will, his widow and much of his family, moved to > Mercer Co.KY. However, my John and his family went to Mecklenburg Co.VA > for awhile and Sarah Marshall Robards was there in 1805. John was dead > by then but I can't find a Will in Mecklenburg Co.VA. After that, Sarah > and her family reportedly moved to Henderson Co.KY and founded the town > of Robards, KY. However, my proven John (m. Maria POE in Franklin Co.KY > in 1825) died in Mercer Co.KY near the family of William Robards, i.e. > Elizabeth Lewis Robards, sons Lewis Robards (ex of Rachel Donelson > Jackson) > George, Jesse, Robert, William, Joseph, Sallie, Elizabeth Lewis Robards, > plus their families. > > I need to prove that the John who was dead by 1805 whose widow was in > Mecklenburg Co.VA is the father of my John Robards who died in Mercer > Co.KY. It seems likely since his Step-Grandmother and her large clan had > moved there. But why didn't he move with the elder John's widow and > family to Henderson Co.KY, way on the other side of KY? John Sr and > Sarah Marshall did, indeed, have a son named John who was born within a > year of the age of my proven John with wife Maria Poe. I think it looks > pretty good that they are father and son, but the > DAR wants proof. I have a preponderance of evidence, not proof. Any > Robards/Roberts researchers > on the list? I also find interesting that William stipulated in his 1783 > Will that his widow and family was to move to Kentucky and he provided > the money for this in his Will. He and 6 of his 8 sons received > thousands of acres of land for their RW service. Oh, there was another > son, James, who migrated to Granville Co. NC, right below Mecklenburg > Co.VA. There were three sisters and the eldest was Jean/Jane Robards > MOSBY. I think she was in Granville Co.NC also. The elder John's > half-sister Sallie m. John JOUETT who was some kind of RW hero for riding > and warning Washington or someone, that the enemy was coming. I think. > Their son was the famous KY artist, Matthew Jouett. The last sister, > Elizabeth Lewis m. William BUCKNER. > > Thanks, > Barb T > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear listmembers, In my last message I gave the wrong impression on where some of the siblings of John Robards lived. Jean Robards Mosby, I think, lived in NC. William Robards, Jr. lived in Jessamine Co.Ky. Jesse Robards lived in Garrard Co.KY. Lewis Robards lived in Bullitt Co.KY. After Lewis divorced Rachel Donelson, he married Hannah Winn. This may or may not be of interest, but I hate to leave possible errors. Barb T