Can't remember where I found it in some historical record, but "Stophel" was a nickname for "Christoph" during that period of time. Suzanne From: Cory Griffin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor The episode was very interesting and close to home (although I didn't understand how 'Christoph Oeste' all of a sudden became 'Stophel Hesion' - I assume the DAR genealogists made the connection but didn't have time to put it in the episode). Does anyone know if there was an 'official paper' that the Hession prisoners had to sign to be released? My family lore claims that 'our Trenton prisoner Hessian' had to sign a paper swearing that he would no longer fight for the British before he was released. However, something in the episode that the 'Hessian Prisoner Expert' Daniel Krebbs tells Lowe has me wondering if 'releases' were indeed officially documented. He says with regard to Lowe's ancestor: "Unfortunately, we don't have a military record that Christoph went to one of the guards...[to inquire about being released]..." . Cory -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DeBard Genealogy Nut Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor I knew that people who financed the revolution were eligible for the DAR, but I was a little surprised that simply the act of paying taxes during the time period qualified his ancestor. I expected that Oest(e) might have joined the 'rebel' army, but this was apparently not the case. I don't know how to search the archives here, but I do know that someone who has posted here has a connection to this particular Hessian. John DeBardeleben -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor Dear Nelda and Listers, The SAR contacted Rob Lowe to invite him to join their organization,; so perhaps in honor of John Merz, Nelda could invite Rob Lowe to post his ancestor on the website. I believe the contact could be made through NBC or Ancestry.com/ You can watch the program on the Internet here: http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/ Jane -----Original Message----- From: Susan King <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:34 am Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Trenton Old Barracks on TV I didn't get the tease and know ahead of time that Rob Lowe's ancestor was a essian, but it was easy to determine quickly which direction they were eading with the storyline. I was calling out to the TV, "He was a Hessian, ob!" J Also, so pleased (and thinking of John Merz) when the genealogist orrected the idea that they were mercenaries! Susan PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~ OUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~ ttp://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~ DMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
We have a surname relative with the name of STOFFEL. Might orig.from Christopher too ? Doris -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Pryse <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 5:51 pm Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor Can't remember where I found it in some historical record, but "Stophel" was a ickname for "Christoph" during that period of time. uzanne From: Cory Griffin <[email protected]> o: [email protected] ent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:12 PM ubject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor The episode was very interesting and close to home (although I didn't nderstand how 'Christoph Oeste' all of a sudden became 'Stophel Hesion' - I ssume the DAR genealogists made the connection but didn't have time to put t in the episode). Does anyone know if there was an 'official paper' that the Hession prisoners ad to sign to be released? My family lore claims that 'our Trenton prisoner essian' had to sign a paper swearing that he would no longer fight for the ritish before he was released. However, something in the episode that the 'Hessian Prisoner Expert' Daniel rebbs tells Lowe has me wondering if 'releases' were indeed officially ocumented. He says with regard to Lowe's ancestor: "Unfortunately, we don't ave a military record that Christoph went to one of the guards...[to nquire about being released]..." . Cory -----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DeBard Genealogy ut ent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:32 AM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor I knew that people who financed the revolution were eligible for the DAR, ut I was a little surprised that simply the act of paying taxes during the ime period qualified his ancestor. I expected that Oest(e) might have oined the 'rebel' army, but this was apparently not the case. I don't know how to search the archives here, but I do know that someone who as posted here has a connection to this particular Hessian. John DeBardeleben ----Original Message----- rom: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] ent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:11 AM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Rob Lowe's Hessian Grenadier Ancestor ear Nelda and Listers, The SAR contacted Rob Lowe to invite him to join their organization,; so erhaps in honor of John Merz, Nelda could invite Rob Lowe to post his ncestor on the website. I believe the contact could be made through NBC or ncestry.com/ You can watch the program on the Internet here: http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/ Jane ----Original Message----- rom: Susan King <[email protected]> o: amrev-hessians <[email protected]> ent: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:34 am ubject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Trenton Old Barracks on TV didn't get the tease and know ahead of time that Rob Lowe's ancestor was a ssian, but it was easy to determine quickly which direction they were ading with the storyline. I was calling out to the TV, "He was a Hessian, b!" J Also, so pleased (and thinking of John Merz) when the genealogist rrected the idea that they were mercenaries! Susan LEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~ UNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~ tp://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~ MINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~ OUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ttp://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~ DMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~ OUNDER: John H. 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