Hello Patricia, I think there is enough evidence to lend support to your family's story of a Hessian soldier Heinrich. Almost same birth date. How about location? Has Peggy any leads? This got to be able to be resolved. What do the County records of Cumberland County say? Wishing you all a good Christmas Season, yours John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Brandon" <darpat@tcsn.net> To: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: RE: Westphal or Westfall, or perhaps Westphall? Dear John I have been trying to find info on Henrich Westfall ever since you provided his name a couple of years ago. I subscribed to AMREV-HESSIAN mail list for several years because my husband's grandfather, William Westfall was supposidly decended from a Hessian soldier. I haven't been able to find any more info than what you provided. I contacted the woman who is researching Gotlieb Westfall, but she had no info either. The person on the Westfall list, you mentioned, supplied me with his ancestial info which seem to prove our Westfalls decended from Julian. What is surprising is there is a Henrich Westfall in that line who was born practically the same day that the Hessian Westfall was born. My first thought was that the two Westfall lines had crossed over each other, but the more I study the Dutch Westfall the more it seems that we are of that line. I am still open to the idea of a Hessian Westfall because that is what our family "story" says. If you want me to send you the names of our Westfall ancestors and the way it integrates with the Dutch line I would be glad to do so. I would very much like to be able to connect our line with the Hessian Westfall. Sincerely, Patricia Brandon darpat@tcsn.net -----Original Message----- From: John Merz [mailto:hessian@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 1:28 PM To: Darrell and Patricia Brandon; weissjoe@iquest.net Subject: Re: Westphal or Westfall, or perhaps Westphall? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <WESTPHAL-L@rootsweb.com>; < AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <WESTFALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Westphal or Westfall, or perhaps Westphall? > Hello folks, > I really didn't want to stir up this age old mystery of who was > the first WESTFALL or WESTPHALL or WESTPHAL in > America. I do believe it was Julian, it sure looks like it --- > but now Jane Curci forwarded to me two old postings from the > WESTFALL-L mail list dated 22.Oct.2002, where the first name > ISAAC WESTFALL is mentioned. The first e-mail came from > darpat@tcsn.net and the reply from Joe Weiss weissjoe@iquest.net > > Joe, I have no problem with your genealogy, except you have to > realize that after your Julian came over, there were others who > came, and you cannot ignore the two Hessian soldiers WESTPHAL > as you can clearly see from below Message Board posting of mine > done in April 2003. > > On 20 May 2004 I posted another message to the same Board, > and this one gives the name of the 7 sons of Gottlieb Westphal, > who lived with his wife in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. > There is a son ISAAC ! Believe it or not. > Greetings, > John Merz > wishing everyone a happy and healty Christmas Season. > > > Message Boards - Message [ Westphal ]Boards > Surnames > Westphal > > > > Re: WESTPHAL from Windecken near Hanau/Hessen - additional information > > Author: Date: 7 Apr 2003 5:14 PM GMT > > > > In Reply to: WESTPHAL from Windecken near Hanau/Hessen by: John Merz > > > > Today I am able to submit some more information about > > the WESTPHAL's from Windecken near Hanau. > > > > First: The town of Windecken today incorporated together > > with the town of Heldenbergen and now known as > > 61130 NIDDERAU, Hessen, Germany. > > > > Two Westphal brothers, Gottfried and Henrich, both born > > in Windecken, served with the Hessen-Hanau Regt. > > Erbprinz, and both indentured themselves to American > > farmers in Pennsylvania. > > > > Here now the personal data for those two: > > Gottfried Westphal, born 8.July 1758 in Windecken, > > Johann Henrich Westphal, born 23.March 1749 Windecken. > > Parents: Johann Georg Westphal and Maria Catharina nee > > Altvater, married 1. Sep.1746 in Windecken. > > Grandfather: Johann Henrich Westphal > >