Hello folks, and I thought I was retired - but now I am going to make sure! No more mental exercises before the New Year, this was the last one for this year: John ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: Robert and Mary Steele Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: AMREV-HESSIANS+1998+7041163888+F.htm Hello Robert and Mary Steele; Well now, that settles the question if he was a Hessian soldier - NO ! No Hessian soldiers were in British service in 1775. The first Hessian troops took the oath to the British King in April 1776 in Holland before boarding ships to England and America/Canada. He may have been a German who signed up with British recruiters in the King's domain Hannover. Or he was already an immigrant to Carolina and joined his Loyalist unit right there in 1775. To find out about this you could order microfilm C-4222 and C-4223 for Muster Rolls of those Provincial Corps from the National Archives of Canada through your local Public Library. I am still with 235 Hessians in Nova Scotia. Cheers, John Merz retired from Hessian research - all my Hessian research material is with the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre in Ameliasburg, Ontario, where I will be guest speaker Sat. 15. Jan.2005. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert and Mary Steele To: John Merz Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: Re: AMREV-HESSIANS+1998+7041163888+F.htm Thanks for your reply, John. It seems that you've researched the Hessians in N.S. very thoroughly! --Will be interested in your further thoughts. FYI, the booklet I mentioned has this paragraph on p. 7: "The first reference I found to John H. Flieger in relation to his military service was in a petition of his dated Sept. 12, 1804, .... which stated "that in the year 1775 Your Memorialist joined the British Forces opposed to the revolted colonies in America, and bore an active part until the reduction of the Provincial Troops in the year 1783 when Your Excellency's Memorialist sought an asylum in this Porvince". And from p. 11: "In Carolina and Georgia Loyalists to N.S. and N.B. Appendix IX p. 372 by Troxier is found: John H. Flieger took 500 acres as an Ensign in the South Carolina Regiment at Country Harbour in 1784 but was not with them for the June 1784 Muster." (Gilroy p. 126 LC Vol 24, pp. 253-256). --Just to whet your etite! -M. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: John Merz Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: AMREV-HESSIANS+1998+7041163888+F.htm Hello, I found this in the mail list archives, but will have to study this a bit more, and will get back to you, John Merz ======================================= Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:14:58 -0800 From: John Helmut Merz hessian@xx To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: John Henry Flieger Hello David, this Nova Scotia business interests me, because I believed I had all Hessians of Nova Scotia covered. I was up to 234 Hessians, in the last two years I only found one more, making it 235. Your Flieger name is not in it, and this prompted me to check other sources. In a list compiled by Marion Gilroy "Loyalists and Land Settlement in Nova Scotia, published by the Public Archives of N.S., under the Halifax County Land Grants I find Flieger, John H., getting a grant of 500 acres in 1784 at Preston Township. This is proof that your ancestor was there in 1784, but the township of Preston provides some riddles, because going down that list, while in many other townships there is a rank or origin listed for the grantee, most Preston Ts. grants vary greatly in size, and hardly says anything who the person was. There are grants given for 50 acres, and for 1000 acres, I saw a George Westphall getting 500 acres (saw that name come up recently), but I could not find any other Hessian names on the whole Preston Ts. list. No association possible with other names. Very strange indeed. Perhaps someone on the Nova Sotia list could enlighten us. I don't remember if I mentioned this before, but the name Flieger does sound very German, but despite this, it could have developed from the name Pflueger. There were several Pflueger soldiers in the Hessian troops, but none of them I can see having served in Nova Scotia. Two of them in particular were in the USA, one Johannes Pflueger, with the Kassel Regt.von Buenau, last recorded on Muster Roll 03/1783, and Pflueger, Georg, same Regt., last recorded 03/1783. There are no discharge dates given, so we do not know whether they returned home or not. I am putting this on the mailing list in hopes to have responses. Regards, John Merz David Berg wrote: > > <snip> has my family tree & it shows that > John Henry Flieger died in Halifax N.S. March 9,1819 and he had a son > by the same name that born in Halifax. > I'm sure that the name John Henry is the anglized form > of his german name, perhaps Johanes Henrick? So probably he located > to Nova Scotia after the Rev. War. Yours truly David Berg ______________________________