Hello everyone! While I am posting to this list, we have another family question: My grandmother is Celina Kaigle, who married Amedee Gamache, and who had 21 children! Their son, Adelard Gamache from St. Gregoire, is my mother's father. Celina's father was Joseph Kaigle, and her mother was Adelaide (Narbonne) LaLanne, b. May 1, 1824.. All of this is well-documented. It appears that the name 'Kaigle', was also spelled 'Gegle, Goekell' and other variants. A distant cousin claims that Joseph's father is Joseph Kaigle, b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, Quebec, and his mother is Sophie Choiniere Sabourin. On 12 Nov 1839 he married Adelaide Narbonne LaLanne, in Marieville, Quebec. Their known children are, Julie Kaigle, b. 1836, and our Joseph. Now all of this is documented thus far. Now, this however, is where it becomes controvertial: My cousin claims that the father of this Joseph Gegle, Goekell, Kaigle is Antoine Frederic (Gockell) Kaigle, b. 1757 in Sprachbrucken-Darmstadt, Germany. My couisin also claims that Antoine married M. Anne Lajoie Maquet, Now, I realize that the identity of Antoine Gockell Kaigle is controvertial from proir posts on this subject.Their children he claims, are: Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. 1787 Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, PQ (our line) Pierre Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 in L'Acadie, PQ Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle Marie Veroniqu Goekel/Kaigle Alexis Goekell/Kaigle Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle (cousin's line) Louis Kegle/Kaigle Marie Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle. I have posted this as 'food for thought' in the event that anyone has found add'l information on Antoine Frederic Gockell/Kaigle! The cousin from whom this information comes, is very distantly related to our Gamache line (from Celina's husband), however, he lives in Quebec, and managed to put the entire Gamache family together by walking through graveyards there, and creating 'family groups' from the burials. Apart from possibly this assertion about Antoine, he has been 100% correct, as we had the family traced by the American-Canadian Society my mother belongs to, so we know he is right in his groupings! What happens to our names is just tragic. I recently had to get my mother's birth certificate from Warren, RI. Her name is "Lorraine Gamache." Her birth certificate says "Zorene Garoush" I asked the American-Canadian society to trace back Celina's Kaigle line begining with her to Antoine, if possible. I won't hear back for a few months. I'll certainly post the results. If in the meantime, there is any more info. on this, please do contact me. Merry Christmas! Louise Briggs New York, NY _coastkid917@aol.com_ (mailto:coastkid917@aol.com)

Hello Louise and the List ! I only worked on the first generation, but here's what I have : Johann Anton GECKEL/ GOEKEL (Kaigle, Kekel, Stegel, Tegel), Hesse-Hanau, Stabscomp (HAJ, Jaeger), Kornrumpff co. transfered Castendyck co., mustered 00-02-1777, discharged 00-07-1783, born c. 1760 Spachbruecken (postal code : D6101), married 27 Jun. 1783 Christ Church (anglican), Montreal to Marie-Anne Maquet/Lajoie. On VonDenVelden land 1800 petition (Hesse-Hanau). Listed in HETRINA VI p. 152, DeMarce p. 114, 145, 203, Merz p. 167 (GOEKEL) and 177 (KAIGLE). Marie-Anne Marquet was daughter of Claude Marquet dit Lajoie and Charlotte Lalumière. Children : 1. Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle b. 03 Apr. 1784 Chambly d. 25 May 1784 Longueuil 2. Louis Kegle/Kaigle bpt. 09 Mr. 1786 Vercheres m. 17 Feb. 1817 L'Acadie : Marie-Anne LAFORET 3. Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. Dec. 1787 bpt 10 Sept. 1789 Chambly m. 14 May 1815 Montreal : Hippolyte TESSIER 4. Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 Chambly m 05 Mar. 1813 St-Mathias : M-Josephte SABOURIN dit CHOINIERE 5. Pierre-Frederic Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 L'Acadie m. 21 May 1825 Napierville : Marie MARCHAND 6. Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. Oct. 1793 bpt. 15 May 1794 Chambly 7. Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle bpt. 13 Jun. 1796 L'Acadie m. ??? 8. Marie-Veronique Goekel/Kaigle bpt. 14 Mar. 1798 L'Acadie 9. Alexis Goekell/Kaigle bpt. 18 Mar. 1800 L'Acadie 10. Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle b. ? m 13 May 1823 St-Luc : Julie SYLVESTRE 11. Marie-Anne Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle b. ? m 24 Apr. 1810 St-Antoine-sur-Richelieu : Atoine POIRIER 12. Antoine-Frederic b. ? m. (1) 19 Jan. 1829 La Prairie : Marguerite LEBEAU, m. (2) 08 Dec. 1845 St-Luc : Henriette MELANCON Hope that helps, Dominique Ritchot ritchotd@videotron.ca Montréal (Québec) > Hello everyone! > > While I am posting to this list, we have another family question: > > My grandmother is Celina Kaigle, who married Amedee Gamache, and who had 21 > children! Their son, Adelard Gamache from St. Gregoire, is my mother's > father. Celina's father was Joseph Kaigle, and her mother was Adelaide (Narbonne) > LaLanne, b. May 1, 1824.. All of this is well-documented. It appears that the > name 'Kaigle', was also spelled 'Gegle, Goekell' and other variants. > A distant cousin claims that Joseph's father is Joseph Kaigle, b. 21 Jan > 1790 in Chambly, Quebec, and his mother is Sophie Choiniere Sabourin. On 12 Nov > 1839 he married Adelaide Narbonne LaLanne, in Marieville, Quebec. Their > known children are, Julie Kaigle, b. 1836, and our Joseph. Now all of this is > documented thus far. Now, this however, is where it becomes controvertial: My > cousin claims that the father of this Joseph Gegle, Goekell, Kaigle is Antoine > Frederic (Gockell) Kaigle, b. 1757 in Sprachbrucken-Darmstadt, Germany. My > couisin also claims that Antoine married M. Anne Lajoie Maquet, > Now, I realize that the identity of Antoine Gockell Kaigle is controvertial > from proir posts on this subject.Their children he claims, are: > Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. 1787 > Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle > Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, PQ (our line) > Pierre Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 in L'Acadie, PQ > Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle > Marie Veroniqu Goekel/Kaigle > Alexis Goekell/Kaigle > Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle > Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle (cousin's line) > Louis Kegle/Kaigle > Marie Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle. > > I have posted this as 'food for thought' in the event that anyone has found > add'l information on Antoine Frederic Gockell/Kaigle! The cousin from whom > this information comes, is very distantly related to our Gamache line (from > Celina's husband), however, he lives in Quebec, and managed to put the entire > Gamache family together by walking through graveyards there, and creating > 'family groups' from the burials. Apart from possibly this assertion about Antoine, > he has been 100% correct, as we had the family traced by the > American-Canadian Society my mother belongs to, so we know he is right in his groupings! > What happens to our names is just tragic. I recently had to get my mother's > birth certificate from Warren, RI. Her name is "Lorraine Gamache." Her birth > certificate says "Zorene Garoush" > I asked the American-Canadian society to trace back Celina's Kaigle line > begining with her to Antoine, if possible. I won't hear back for a few months. > I'll certainly post the results. If in the meantime, there is any more info. on > this, please do contact me. > Merry Christmas! > Louise Briggs > New York, NY > _coastkid917@aol.com_ (mailto:coastkid917@aol.com)