Thank you so much, Mary, perhaps this is what brings us closer to the real Elizabeth MOSER, the wife of Frederick SPEES (SPIES) I checked out the name Elizabeth MOSER, there are literally hundreds, no wonder, it's like searching a needle in a haystack. But having read the name MICHAEL Moser as the father of Elizabeth, and the mother a Mary SNU (?), I went through a whole pile of MICHAEL MOSER listings (again hundreds it seemed) and here I found something interesting: Elisabeth MUSSER born 7. Oct. 1765 - father Michael MOSER, his wife Maria Barbara, last name unknown.. I don't want to bet my bottom dollar on this, but have a gut feeling that this could be her. Needs further exploring by the descendants. It also shows that such a simple name like MOSER can be really kicked around. Cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Magistro" <mamagistro@sonicnet.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: SPIES/SPEES > John, > I found these four messages on the messages on Mozier Ancestry.com Message > board. Perhaps this will help your contact if they contact one of these > women, as one said she had DAR records. > Hope this is of some help: > 1) Mozier > Author: Gwen Sroufe Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:38 AM GMT > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > Searching for information on Elizabeth Mozier > b abt 1765 Lancaster, Pa. md Fredrick Spees abt 1781 in Lancaster. Her > parents are Michael Moser b abt 1739 of Lancaster md abt 1764 to Mary SNU in > Lancaster. Please contact me by email if you can help. Thanks > > 2) Elizabeth Mozier info > Author: Dana Dalton Schnorr Date: 12 Nov 2000 11:50 AM GMT > In Reply to: Mozier by: Gwen Sroufe > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > According to my mother's DAR records, Frederick Spees, born in Germany and > immigrated to US, married Eliabeth Mozier, who was born in Lancaster County, > PA. in 1796 they moved to Territory of Kentucky in Mason County close to > Maysville. They had 6 sons and 2 daughters. Christon, George, Fredrick, > Henry, Daniel, William, Mary, Rachel. The are my gggggrandparents. I have > more info on the Spees Family, but go no further back on the Mozier side. > Your information was helpful! > > 3) Elizabeth Mozier /Frederick Spees > Author: Gwen Sroufe Date: 12 Nov 2000 6:25 PM GMT > In Reply to: Elizabeth Mozier info by: Dana Dalton Schnorr > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > Thanks for the note. You have Elizabeth's birthday much later that the abay > 1765 that I have. The children match. I have > Christian b 1786 George b 1788 Frederick b 1790 Harry b 1797 Daniel b 1799 > William b 1805 Mary b 1811 and Rachel b 1813. Do you have dates for the > children? I have Michael Moser b abt 1739 and his wife Mary b abt 1743 > both in Lancaster, Pa. and married abt 1764. I wonder why the birth dates on > Elizabeth are so apart? > > 4)Elizabeth Fredrick > Author: Dana Dalton Schnorr Date: 13 Nov 2000 6:52 PM GMT > In Reply to: Elizabeth Mozier /Frederick Spees by: Gwen Sroufe > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > The date of 1796 represents the year in which they moved to Mason > County...not her birth year. Sorry for the confusion. I have contacted my > mother (Mary Spees Dalton) to see if she has other records on Elizabeth and > Fredrick. I'll let you know > > Gwen Sroufe email is : lorene@jps.net > Dana Dalton Schnorr email is : cschnorr@uswest.net > > I know these are from the year 2000 but it's worth a try. > > Kind Regards > Mary Magistro >

You are most welcome John. I enjoy helping others where possible, as many have helped me over the past 2 years research. There were two other listings for in Ancestry.com but they were from the "Family Individual data files" meaning they were submitted by family members to ancestry. It did list a David Speece born Kentucky with father Frederick Speece and mother Elizabeth Mozier , also a Mary Spees born Kentucky with father Frederick Spees and mother Elizabeth Mozier. There were birth dates and place of birth listed also. If you want that information I can email it to you also. The only problem with the "family data files" is there is no way to tell what family member submitted the information, ergo you have no source to use expect "ancestry.com file". And as we all know you really need to take to the source person or have a documented source for accuracy and proof. But again I will send you the birth information listed on the two above if you want it. Kind Regards Mary Magistro PS I would also look at the surname Moshier as a variation of spelling. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: SPIES/SPEES - wife Elizabeth MOZIER/MOSER/MUSSER. > Thank you so much, Mary, perhaps this is what brings us closer > to the real Elizabeth MOSER, the wife of Frederick SPEES (SPIES) > > I checked out the name Elizabeth MOSER, there are literally hundreds, > no wonder, it's like searching a needle in a haystack. > But having read the name MICHAEL Moser as the father of Elizabeth, > and the mother a Mary SNU (?), I went through a whole pile of > MICHAEL MOSER listings (again hundreds it seemed) and here I found > something interesting: > > Elisabeth MUSSER born 7. Oct. 1765 - father Michael MOSER, his wife > Maria Barbara, last name unknown.. > > I don't want to bet my bottom dollar on this, but have a gut feeling that > this could be her. Needs further exploring by the descendants. > > It also shows that such a simple name like MOSER can be really kicked > around. > Cheers, > John Merz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Magistro" <mamagistro@sonicnet.net> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:07 PM > Subject: SPIES/SPEES > > > > John, > > I found these four messages on the messages on Mozier Ancestry.com Message > > board. Perhaps this will help your contact if they contact one of these > > women, as one said she had DAR records. > > Hope this is of some help: > > 1) Mozier > > Author: Gwen Sroufe Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:38 AM GMT > > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > > Searching for information on Elizabeth Mozier > > b abt 1765 Lancaster, Pa. md Fredrick Spees abt 1781 in Lancaster. Her > > parents are Michael Moser b abt 1739 of Lancaster md abt 1764 to Mary SNU > in > > Lancaster. Please contact me by email if you can help. Thanks > > > > 2) Elizabeth Mozier info > > Author: Dana Dalton Schnorr Date: 12 Nov 2000 11:50 AM GMT > > In Reply to: Mozier by: Gwen Sroufe > > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > > According to my mother's DAR records, Frederick Spees, born in Germany and > > immigrated to US, married Eliabeth Mozier, who was born in Lancaster > County, > > PA. in 1796 they moved to Territory of Kentucky in Mason County close to > > Maysville. They had 6 sons and 2 daughters. Christon, George, Fredrick, > > Henry, Daniel, William, Mary, Rachel. The are my gggggrandparents. I have > > more info on the Spees Family, but go no further back on the Mozier side. > > Your information was helpful! > > > > 3) Elizabeth Mozier /Frederick Spees > > Author: Gwen Sroufe Date: 12 Nov 2000 6:25 PM GMT > > In Reply to: Elizabeth Mozier info by: Dana Dalton Schnorr > > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > > Thanks for the note. You have Elizabeth's birthday much later that the > abay > > 1765 that I have. The children match. I have > > Christian b 1786 George b 1788 Frederick b 1790 Harry b 1797 Daniel b 1799 > > William b 1805 Mary b 1811 and Rachel b 1813. Do you have dates for the > > children? I have Michael Moser b abt 1739 and his wife Mary b abt 1743 > > both in Lancaster, Pa. and married abt 1764. I wonder why the birth dates > on > > Elizabeth are so apart? > > > > 4)Elizabeth Fredrick > > Author: Dana Dalton Schnorr Date: 13 Nov 2000 6:52 PM GMT > > In Reply to: Elizabeth Mozier /Frederick Spees by: Gwen Sroufe > > Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message > > The date of 1796 represents the year in which they moved to Mason > > County...not her birth year. Sorry for the confusion. I have contacted my > > mother (Mary Spees Dalton) to see if she has other records on Elizabeth > and > > Fredrick. 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