Hi Christine -- The Germans at Penobscot were the 1782 replacement recruits for the Brunswick troops (Commanded by Captain Heinrich Urban Cleve) and for the Ansbach-Bayreuth troops (Commanded by Captain Ernst Friedrich Wilhelm von Wurmb and after his death on 07 Feb 1783 by Second Lieutenant Erhenfried Johann Ferdinand Friedrich Busch). The Brunswickers deployed from Germany with 227 officers and men and the Ansbach-Bayreuthers with 235 men and 9 women. They departed Bremerlehe on 09 June and arrived at Halifax on 13 Aug. The Brunswick replacements never disembarked at Halifax and sailed from thence on 12 Sep and arrived at Penobscot on 22 Sep 1782 and disembarked on 25 Sep 1783 (three men died aboard ship and a fourth died on 26 Sep, presumably from scurvy). The Ansbach-Bayreuth troops embarked at Halifax on 06 Nov and arrived at Penobscot on 13 Nov 1782. The two German detachments were independent of any regiment although the 74th Regiment (Argyll Highlanders) was the principal regim! ent at Penobscot. In 1783 two transport ships were sent from New York to Penobscot to embark the Germans. The ships arrived 04 July 1783 but embarkation wasn't until 15 July with departure on 17 July 1783. The two transport ships were the "Ariel" (which carried the Brunswickers) and the "Two Brothers" (which carried the Ansbach-Bayreuthers). The return route was from Penobscot to Halifax, then to The Downs (off Deal Castle, in the English Channel), then to Bremerlehe where the troops disembarked and marched home. The "Two Brothers" was at The Downs on 04 Sep and disembarked at Bremerlehe on 28 Sep 1783. The "Ariel" should have disembarked about the same time but I don't have that specific piece of information Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:19 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: Fort George & Germans Forwarded to AMREV-HESSIANS-L mail list for review: > From: "Christine Jack" <cjack@unb.ca> > Hi! I am trying to help another who is wondering where the Germans went from Fort George at Penobscot when the war was over. To tell you the truth I don't know if they were there as separate regiments or attached to the British regiment. I know many German regiments seem to have gone to Halifax for discharge and either went home with their regiments or stayed behind. What do you think? Thanx in advance, Christine Unversity of New Brunswick Library ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== 6000 Hessian soldiers remained in North America after the Peace in 1783, the majority settled in the Eastern United States and Canada. A quick check http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L

Hello Christine, here is one answer from our 'Down East' expert, I personally want to mention that several Brunswick deserters from Penobscot settled in New Brunswick. We have written about this on our mail list and it should be in the mail list archives. Unfortunately I am in the middle of great preparations for a big Hessian event here in Ontario (Rose House) and transferring my research material to the SAR and the Canadian part to Ameliasburg in Ontario, and I have no chance to look things up anymore. But this will sure help you, Regards, John Helmut Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "RC Brooks" <rcbrooks@pivot.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Re: Fort George & Germans > Hi Christine -- > > The Germans at Penobscot were the 1782 replacement recruits for the Brunswick troops (Commanded by Captain Heinrich Urban Cleve) and for the Ansbach-Bayreuth troops (Commanded by Captain Ernst Friedrich Wilhelm von Wurmb and after his death on 07 Feb 1783 by Second Lieutenant Erhenfried Johann Ferdinand Friedrich Busch). The Brunswickers deployed from Germany with 227 officers and men and the Ansbach-Bayreuthers with 235 men and 9 women. They departed Bremerlehe on 09 June and arrived at Halifax on 13 Aug. The Brunswick replacements never disembarked at Halifax and sailed from thence on 12 Sep and arrived at Penobscot on 22 Sep 1782 and disembarked on 25 Sep 1783 (three men died aboard ship and a fourth died on 26 Sep, presumably from scurvy). The Ansbach-Bayreuth troops embarked at Halifax on 06 Nov and arrived at Penobscot on 13 Nov 1782. The two German detachments were independent of any regiment although the 74th Regiment (Argyll Highlanders) was the principal regim! > ent at Penobscot. > > In 1783 two transport ships were sent from New York to Penobscot to embark the Germans. The ships arrived 04 July 1783 but embarkation wasn't until 15 July with departure on 17 July 1783. The two transport ships were the "Ariel" (which carried the Brunswickers) and the "Two Brothers" (which carried the Ansbach-Bayreuthers). The return route was from Penobscot to Halifax, then to The Downs (off Deal Castle, in the English Channel), then to Bremerlehe where the troops disembarked and marched home. The "Two Brothers" was at The Downs on 04 Sep and disembarked at Bremerlehe on 28 Sep 1783. The "Ariel" should have disembarked about the same time but I don't have that specific piece of information > > Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Merz > To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:19 PM > Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: Fort George & Germans > > > Forwarded to AMREV-HESSIANS-L mail list for review: > > From: "Christine Jack" <cjack@unb.ca> > Hi! > I am trying to help another who is wondering where the Germans > went from Fort George at Penobscot when the war was over. To tell > you the truth I don't know if they were there as separate regiments > or attached to the British regiment. > > I know many German regiments seem to have gone to Halifax for > discharge and either went home with their regiments or stayed > behind. What do you think? > Thanx in advance, > > Christine > Unversity of New Brunswick Library > > A quick check http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians

John -- <<<clip>>> I personally want to mention that several Brunswick deserters from Penobscot settled in New Brunswick. <<<snip>>> Not exactly! Dupenack, Hildebrand, and Ritter who drew town lots in St Andrews and farm lots in the sixth division of the Penobscot Association land grants where three of the four men duly discharged on 14 July 1783 at Penobscot by Capt. H.U. Cleve. Bob Brooks