Hello Everett; Thanks for bringing this up and thereby giving me a chance to comment on those missing 'SPIES' soldiers. From Hetrina III following the entry for Friedrich SPIES comes: Henrich SPIES, born 1752/54 in Schwebda D-3441 (same as Friedrich), private soldier, 3.Comp., Kassel Regt. Erbprinz. on Muster Roll in 1775, and later listed as deserted in April 1781. No further information for this man has come in, and myself have had no enquiries for him from anybody. That's why he was not on my lists. But let's talk about his date of desertion, or that's the question, when he was reported as a deserted. The Kassel Erbprinz Regiment was shipped from New York to Portsmouth, Virginia in March 1781, where it joinred the Cornwallis army. Henrich Spies either deserted just before shipping out, which would mean he stayed around New York, or he deserted right after arrival in Portsmouth, Virginia, and made his way somewhere. In any event, so far nobody I know of, has asked for him. Perhaps he jumped ship, drowned, or whatever, and who knows, perhaps used another name. This brings us to the other Hessen-Kassel Jaeger Valentin SPIES, listed in the supplement to my Guide on page 116. This one is simple, he was born 1756/57 at Eichsfeld/Thuringia, served in the 4th Jaeger Company, and deserted in November 1783, just before the last of the Hessian troops left from New York. I have not heard anybody asking for him as yet, but here he is on record now for anybody looking. Sincerely, John Merz, *** want to come to the Rose House Museum in Picton, 21. August 2004?*** ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ekshae@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] SPIES - SPEES = Lost in America. > John: > > Thanks so much for the Guide that was forwarded to me at my Army address in > Texas. Also thank you for the comprehensive Personal Data file on my forbear > Friedrich Spies of Schwebda and the Erbprinz Regiment, company #3. > > As is often the case when we look at research it may open new questions. In > the Guide I found an additional Spies entry, one on page 116 for Valentin > Spies, listed under deserters. > > In your PDF HETRINA listing there is Henrich Spies, also from Schwebda, and > also in Erprinz Company #3. Valentin Spies' name does not appear on that > listing. I would love to know what information we have about these additional > individuals' military and subsequent civilian history/genealogy. Or do they just > disappear? > > I also received my Hessian pins from Bob Fetters and think they are great. > > Best. Everett Spees > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" > Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. > HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. > You'll find information in the keyword archive 1999 "26 feb 1999" >