Hello John, It is nice to hear from you again. Thank You, you are correct, as I made a mistake while trying to put together that query from memory, and late at night when I should have been in bed, about JOHANN KONRAD UEBELHACK'S desertion date. It is 18 May 1783 instead of 17 May 1783, and I got that date of 18 May 1783 from Clifford Neal Smith's "Monograph #2," and I got the location of Lancaster, Pennsylvania for that date from "A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution" by Johann Conrad Döhla's book, translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne. As you said, a name like this can't get lost, or shouldn't, B U T.............? I know where we are today, but where are they in the earlier years, from 1783 to 1830? Thank you for correcting my mistake, and offering the additonal information as to other options to look for, And I do hope we can find some cousins to help, that would really be nice to have some help. If only I could find some information about Johann Konrad Uebelhack after his desertion, like where he settled, who he married, and his children. Oh, it would be so nice to be in the know! I'll just keep looking and asking and hoping for some answers! Take Care! Best Wishes, Earl Subject: Re: JOHANN KONRAD UEBELHACK Author: John Helmut Merz Date: 02 Feb 2005 11:05 PM GMT I do have a problem with your desertion date, although the Staedtler list of Ansbach deserters quotes him as having deserted on 18. May 1783, which seems to be the basis of your conclusions. This would place him in an entirely different location, and may be the source of your problem finding him.

Hi John and Earl, John how would you prounce that name in english with a german accent... PLease spell it phentically... as in Knight is nite.... could it be listed in a 1790 census that way?? my Bonstein was listed as Punstine .... Earl have you tried looking for him under wierd spellings like this?? Nelda LM Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Dear Earl, I am truly trying to help you find this ancestor of yours - in fact I tried to check the name out in Germany - as you noticed in my Personal Data File - I had been checking the name in the German Telephone Directory on-line, and I found over 100 listings of UEBELHACK, many of them around Bayreuth. I also looked for UEBELACKER, because this name was mentioned in the Prechtel Diary as a deserter in Newport, R.I., and there are over 400 listings mainly in Bavaria. Now it is quite possible that the Diarist Prechtel misquoted the name Uebelhack for Uebelacker, but there is no Uebelacker in any Ansbach-Bayreuth military files, just Uebelhack. BTW. I check the German listings for the following variations: Evelhoch, Evelhock, Evelhack, Evelhach, and Evilhack - not one listing found! While checking the mail list archives of this list I came across one posting with the name Uebelhack in 2003, when a friend of mine in Bayreuth, Mr. Horst Lochner, offered to show pictures of the Brewery Uebelhack near Bayreuth, so you see we have been working on your name. Horst has been trying to help many of our subscribers, and he could be of help to you. Have you tried to contact him? Now the correction to your statement re: desertion date - S#19 - Clifford Neal Smith - Monograph #2 -Mercenaries from Ansbach: 7-142 Uebelhack, Johann Konrad, private, A/3. Deserted on 18 May 1781. (Not 18 May 1783 as you quoted) Doehla's Diary does not mention Uebelhack at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl H. Lippert" <ehlippert@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re JOHANN KONRAD UEBELHACK > Hello John, > > It is nice to hear from you again. Thank You, you are correct, as I made a mistake while trying to put together that query from memory, and late at night when I should have been in bed, about JOHANN KONRAD UEBELHACK'S desertion date. It is > 18 May 1783 instead of 17 May 1783, and I got that date of 18 May 1783 from Clifford Neal Smith's "Monograph #2," and I got the location of Lancaster, Pennsylvania for that date from "A Hessian Diary of the American Revolution" by Johann Conrad Döhla's book, translated by Bruce E. Burgoyne. > <SNIP>