Hi David, Have you tried the Graves surname mailing list or the Graves family assoication.. . http://www.gravesfa.org/ They were quite helpful with my two Graves connections.... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/