Hi, message forwarded to list..hi you need to join list to post... but I forwarded your message to the list nelda ----Original Message Follows---- From: richard hackenberger <rhackenb@mail.win.org> To: Bob Brooks <rcbrooks@pivot.net> CC: Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [HESSIAN] Jakob Hachenberger Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:13:16 -0600 Hello Bob, Thanks for taking the time to delve further into my query. Census takers and transcriptions vary the name from HACHENBERGER, HACKENBERGER, HAGENBERGER, HOCKENBERGER, HOCHENBERGER and more I haven't discovered as yet. Jim Stokes on the Lancaster, PA List was kind enough to check Rupp's "History of Lancaster County" [p.411] back in May of last year. He quoted the passage of Rupp's interview with Jakob as follows: "... In September, 1843, we visited one of the German mercenaries, living at Millpoert, Warwich Township; a Mr. Jacob Hagenberger, who according to his own statement, was born March 3d, 1750, arrived at Quebeck, March 5, 1775. He belonged to Captain Schachter's company; he was taken prisoner at the surrender of General Burgoyne, October 17, 1777; taken to the barracks near Boston, thence to Winchester, Virginia, thence to Reading, and lastly to Lancaster, where, on the close of the war, he was sold for eighty dollars, for the term of nearly three years to Captain Jacob Zimmerman, of Earl township. Hagenberger is now in his 94th year. His health is good and memory remarkable." [It was probably 80 pounds in those days...] Recently, I also found a record through AncestryPlus [Passenger and Immigration Lists Index (PILI) showing HACHENBERGER, JAKOB "Location Quebec" on pages 73, 173 and 174 of "Hessische Truppen Im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskreig (Hetrina): Index nach Familiennamen / Hanauische Regimenter. (Marbureg: Archivschule) (Veroeffentlichungen der Aruchvivsschule Marburg, Institut fuer Archivwissenschaft, Nr. 10) Band VI, Heft 1: A-L. Marburg, 1987. Band VI, Heft 2: M-Z. Marburg, 1987. My disadvantage is that I neither read nor speak German. Nor do I know where to find these volumes. Additional men listed of this same surname were "Christian", "Jost" and "Wilhem / Guilliam". I have found no U.S. records for any of these other three though I'm aware that there are some HACKENBERGER folks living in Canada to this day. I also checked the JSHA which linked me to the F&M archives list which showed "Box 24, folder 4, Jacob Hachenberger" and emailed the contact person for imformation on getting copies of those files.The JSHA does list in their "Researched Soldiers" JOHANN GEORG HACHENBERGER who was either a brother or cousin to Jacob. His listing shows "Hesse-Hanau; Schwalheim; Musketeer; Erbprinz Reg., Co. 5; HETRINA Vol VI; Captured at Saratoga; Indentured himself at Lancaster; Remained after the war and settled at Donegal Township, Lancaster County." I have a good bit on this 5th HACHENBERGER. I check as many as possible so that I might either include or exclude them. Those of the HACKENBERG or HACHENBERG surname are completely unrelated lines. So, after all my long-winded revelations here, do you have any further suggestions for me? I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks again, Toni Hackenberger St. Peters, MO Bob Brooks wrote: >Richard -- > >In _Johannes Schwalm The Hessian_ (Johannes Schwalm Historical Assoc., >1976), pp. 229-241, is "A Combined List of prisoners held at Lancaster >1777-1778" containing a list of 712 German and 49 British POWs with the >names of employers for about half the Germans. Alas, this list does not >include a POW named JAKOB HACHENBERGER nor an employer named Captain Jakob >Zimmerman. In fact, the list does not include a POW hamed Hachenberger or >any similar name. As for employers, Bernard Zimmerman of Hempfield is >listed as employing both Ludwig Landwehr of 2.Kompanie, Regiment von >Los?erg, and Wilhelm Steinbrecker of Leibkompanie, Regiment von Knyphausen. > >In _Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhangigkeitskrieg (HETRINA), >Index nach Familiennamen_ [Hessian roops in the American Independencewar >(HETRINA) Index by Familynames], vols II and III, I fail to find anyone >named Hachenberger. These volumes cover the three regiments which were >captured at Trenton NJ on 26 Dec 1776; i.e., Regiment von Lo?berg, Regiment >von Knyphausen, and Regiment Rall. I do not own HETRINA vol I which >includes the composite Grenidier Battalions. > >Bob Brooks > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> >To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:49 PM >Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: PML - > > >>Forwarded to the Hessian Soldiers mail list: >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "richard hackenberger" >><rhackenb@mail.win.org> >>Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:41 PM >> >>>Source: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Will do lookups-Zimmerman's Family History >> >>1720-1988 >> >>> >>>Hello Wanda, >>>What a generous offer! I do not have a ZIMMERMAN in our lineage but >>>understand that after the Battle of Saratoga, my husband's 4th >>>Great-grandfather, a Hessian Grenadier, was listed as indentured to a >>>CAPT. JACOB ZIMMERMAN of Lancaster. I would like to know where this >>>Capt. lived. Later marriage and birth records [after 1783] show our >>>JAKOB HACHENBERGER as living in Earl Twp. >>> >>>Toni H. >>>St. Peters, MO >>> >>>blabonteluvr@aol.com wrote: >>> >I have temporary access to the book >> >>"Zimmerman's Family History 1720-1988" - Mennonites). >> >> >>==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== >>For Hessian research in Canada contact the Marilyn Adams Genealogical >>Research Centre, Ameliasburg, Ontario e-mail 7thtownmagrc@kos.net or check >>the mail list archives of this list for address. >>You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going >>from one message to another. >>To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS >>To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L >>**************** >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >