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    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Robert Sulentic
    3. It is possible, but I have Georg Pausch's diary where he lists all the men on his roster, and nobody's name is even close to what you're looking for. There is another possibility--all of the German units would have had servants along for the officers. Not being soldiers, these men are not listed by name, so I don't know where you might find information on them. -----Original Message----- >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >Sent: Dec 20, 2011 12:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname > >Jack, thanks for the info. I hadn't realized exactly what "warning out" >meant. So it could be that Christopher and Rebecca were newcomers to town, >rather than the townspeople kicking them out because of anger at the >Hessians and loyalists. I've seen this a couple other places in old >records, and it does make more sense now. > >It was actually the recent posts about the Burgoyne Saratoga campaign that >prompted me to finally write in, rather than lurk as I have been doing. > >Robert, it looks like you're right. I do see that some Hanau Artillery are >listed in a couple Orders of Battle for Bennington. Is there a chance that >ART could refer to these people? > >Thanks! >- Adam > >On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Robert Sulentic ><[email protected]>wrote: > >> The HETRINA entries aren't your man, if he was captured at Bennington. He >> would have been with the Brunswick troops. >> >> None of those Hessian units served with Burgoyne. >> BOS is regiment von Bose >> KNY is regiment von Knyphausen >> WIS is regiment von Wissenbach >> ART is the Hessian artillery >> >> -Robert Sulentic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Dec 19, 2011 7:22 PM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname >> > >> >I'd like to know if I'm on the right track here, and where I might be able >> >to look further. >> > >> >I'm trying to locate a Christopher Tiffaner / Tiffany on Hessian roles. >> > >> > >> > - On 23 Mar 1784, Christopher Teffener married Rebecka Ellis in >> > Bennington, VT. >> > - On 21 Apr 1784, Christopher Teffeney and his wife Rebecka were warned >> > to leave Bennington. >> > - Cambridge, VT town records show two children were born to Christopher >> > Tiffany and his wife Rebeccah in 15 Aug 1784 and in 20 Dec 1786, >> neither >> > with a place of birth shown. >> > - The Vermont Historical Gazetteer (1871) says "Christopher Tiffany, >> one >> > of Burgoyne's Dutch soldiers" immigrated from Bennington to Cambridge >> > between 1789 and 1800. >> > - In the 1790 census, Christopher Tiffaner was living in Cambridge, VT >> > with 5 white females. Other marriage, birth and death records show he >> > lived there until his death in 21 Mar 1809. He signed his named with >> an X. >> > - His grandson's journal lists Christopher Tiffany as "from Germany." >> > >> >So the obvious guess is that he was taken prisoner or deserted at >> >Bennington. >> > >> >One of my relatives suggests that 'Tiffaner' might be 'Dieffenbach' or >> >'Tiffenbacher' or something along those lines. I've received Clifford >> Neal >> >Smith's "British and German Deserters..." and can't find anyone of those >> >names or close to them. >> > >> >I had a couple hours with HETRINA on microfilm and jotted down a few >> >possibilities, along with the HETRINA abbreviations and codes. (sadly, >> >imagining I would have more time later with the index, and not writing >> down >> >what the codes meant) >> > >> >Here's the basics of what I jotted down, as far as the Christoph ____ s >> go: >> > >> >Book II: >> >Christoph Degenhardt - GE BOS4 12 2-1781 >> >Christoph Dettmar - GE BOS3 11 3-1781 >> > >> >Book III: >> >Christoph Dedenbier - GE KNY5 11 12-1774 >> >Christoph ______ - GE KNY5 11 2-1777 >> >Christoph Degenhasdt - GE RAL4 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS 5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph ______ - 12 8 - 1782 >> >Christoph Drebing - KA ART 11 10-1781 >> > >> >Book IV: >> >Christoph Toehne - KA ART 11 2-1777 >> > >> >If my search was comprehensive, I couldn't find any Christoph D___ or >> >Christoph T___ of an appropriate age who left or was captured during the >> >Saratoga campaign. >> > >> >Am I on the right track? What other sorts of names should I be looking >> for? >> >It is entirely possible that Christopher Tiffaner was not a Hessian at all >> >and the Gazetteer got it wrong. But the timing of the marriage seems >> >pretty coincidental. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Adam Call Roberts >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> >~~~~~~~~~ >> >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. 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