Note: The Rootsweb Mailing Lists will be shut down on April 6, 2023. (More info)
RootsWeb.com Mailing Lists
Previous Page      Next Page
Total: 1220/10000
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute
    2. WILLIAM M HORNER
    3. ANDREAS MEHLMANN, of Kassel RGTvon BOSE is my ancestor...anyone researching him, his descendants or ancestors? > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:51:47 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute > > Chris, > > You're very welcome, anytime! > > If you need more details about the last two names, let me know. I thought when > I wrote that I would focus on the name that matched the closest to what you > looking for. > > > Matt > > > > Matt, > > Thank you so much for your time and effort. These are the first new clues I've > had in over a decade. > > I can't thank you enough for your generosity. > > Chris > > > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Matt Reardon wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > Found a Ernst Greiff born 1755. He was from Oldenburg and served in the > > Jagercompany under von Barner. He wasn't with the Convention Army. > > > > There is also a Johann Graff from Arensburg, and Heinrich Graff from Hofen. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________ > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 1:10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute > > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/31/2011 06:09:57
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute
    2. WILLIAM M HORNER
    3. ANDREAS MEHLMANN, of Kassel RGTvon BOSE is my ancestor...anyone researching him, his descendants or ancestors? > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:51:47 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute > > Chris, > > You're very welcome, anytime! > > If you need more details about the last two names, let me know. I thought when > I wrote that I would focus on the name that matched the closest to what you > looking for. > > > Matt > > > > Matt, > > Thank you so much for your time and effort. These are the first new clues I've > had in over a decade. > > I can't thank you enough for your generosity. > > Chris > > > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Matt Reardon wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > Found a Ernst Greiff born 1755. He was from Oldenburg and served in the > > Jagercompany under von Barner. He wasn't with the Convention Army. > > > > There is also a Johann Graff from Arensburg, and Heinrich Graff from Hofen. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________ > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 1:10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Brunswick Troops in North America" by Claus Reute > > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/31/2011 06:09:31
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] Women of the Auziliaries
    2. connie
    3. Hi, Has anyone this CD. I am looking for a Maria, Mary, wife of Wilhelm Schwartz. I believe they married just before he mustered in or during the first year of the war. Their daughter Elizabeth was born in NY state in 1778. Hoping to find her in some list or their marriage listed by one of the Chaplains of the Rev. I can purchase this from Heritage Books but felt I would try here first. CD: They Also Served. Women with the Hessian Auxiliaries Connie

    12/31/2011 02:21:26
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] Diary and Roster book look-up
    2. connie
    3. Has anyone a copy of this book. If so could you do a look up for me please. Wilhelm Schwartz. Wilhelm Swartz, or Johann Wilhelm Schwartz. Hesse-Hanau Order Books A Diary and Roster: A Collection of Items Concerning the Hesse-Hanau Contingent of "Hessians" Fighting Against the American Colonists in the Revolutionary War Connie [email protected]

    12/31/2011 02:15:38
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] Hessian Barracks in Frederick
    2. Susan King
    3. This is great, Marie! Thanks for posting the link!! >A cousin sent me a link to a Facebook page dedicated to the Hessian Barracks at Frederick, Md.: http://www.facebook.com/HessianBarracks1777?sk=wall >There are photos of the historical preservation of the building, and re-enactors. Check it out! Marie Rasnick Fetzer

    12/30/2011 05:21:42
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] Hessian Barracks, Frederick, Md.
    2. Marie Rasnick Fetzer
    3. A cousin sent me a link to a Facebook page dedicated to the Hessian Barracks at Frederick, Md.: http://www.facebook.com/HessianBarracks1777?sk=wall There are photos of the historical preservation of the building, and re-enactors. Check it out! Marie Rasnick Fetzer

    12/29/2011 03:08:37
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] johan nicholaus link/linck
    2. Faye Parker
    3. My ancestor Johan N. Link was a Hessian soldier, who never went home after the Revolution. He settled in Augusta County Virginia and we think he was buried there.

    12/27/2011 01:54:04
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Suzanne Pryse
    3. Keep trying.  If the oral history of your family was that he was a Hessian he was probably from somewhere in what is now Germany.  Good Luck! ________________________________ From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname Thanks for everyone's help! It seems as though 'Christopher Tiffaner' is either * under a name more dissimilar than the ones I've been searching for. * deserted or captured a long way from the Saratoga campaign and went to Vermont near the end of the war * a servant with the Hessian army, and not on the rolls or * possibly a different German immigrant. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which > translates to deep stream. > > > Linda Stingel-May > Ussery Printing > Cell 214 957 9219 > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Adam, > > > > I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," > however, > > I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern > > Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks > > descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did > > eventually settle there. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/21/2011 11:02:11
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Adam Call Roberts
    3. Jack, I certainly won't give up! Thanks for the words of encouragement! Doris, that's an interesting take... I'll keep that in mind and do some hunting. - Adam On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jack Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote: > Adam: > You may be right, but don't give up yet. There were other Germans > who ended up in southern Vermont at the end of the war that did not come > down with Burgoyne. The archives will detail the search for George > Hadstadt, as well as my ancestor Johann Kaspar Schoenewolf. Both were > listed as deserting from Hesse-Kassel troops. We know that Hessians likely > ended up in western Massachusetts from a captured troop ship. There was a > prison camp built at Rutland, Massachusetts where Hessians were let out to > work with local farmers and craftsmen. The diary of Dr. Wasmus, which is > discussed at length in the archives mentions some of these, but not by > name. Hessians were also moved to Massachusetts from Rhode Island. > Unfortunately, the names of most of these are unknown, and there are > extremely few records from the Rutland, Mass. camp. > Schoenewolf was reported as deserting on June 15, 1781, but we > think that is more likely the date when his desertion was reported by > officers who marched south from Massachusetts to join up with the main > Hessian armies for shipment back to Europe. He married in Leominster, Mass > and settled in Rockingham, Vermont. > So keep searching. You never know when the next piece of the puzzle > will fall into place, or where it will come from. > Jack Wolfe > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Adam Call Roberts wrote: > > > Thanks for everyone's help! > > > > It seems as though 'Christopher Tiffaner' is either > > * under a name more dissimilar than the ones I've been searching for. > > * deserted or captured a long way from the Saratoga campaign and went to > > Vermont near the end of the war > > * a servant with the Hessian army, and not on the rolls > > or * possibly a different German immigrant. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which > >> translates to deep stream. > >> > >> > >> Linda Stingel-May > >> Ussery Printing > >> Cell 214 957 9219 > >> > >> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Adam, > >>> > >>> I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," > >> however, > >>> I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the > southern > >>> Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks > >>> descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did > >>> eventually settle there. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hope this helps. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Susan > >>> > >>> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > >>> ~~~~~~~~~ > >>> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > >> ~~~~~~~~~ > >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/21/2011 09:56:18
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. To me the surname might be Tiffauer ect..naner is not a German word..maybe regional dialect? Au is an area,Tiff is the name for something..the area of Tiff ? Just a thought,Doris. -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wolfe <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 9:52 pm Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname Adam: You may be right, but don't give up yet. There were other Germans who ended up n southern Vermont at the end of the war that did not come down with Burgoyne. he archives will detail the search for George Hadstadt, as well as my ancestor ohann Kaspar Schoenewolf. Both were listed as deserting from Hesse-Kassel roops. We know that Hessians likely ended up in western Massachusetts from a aptured troop ship. There was a prison camp built at Rutland, Massachusetts here Hessians were let out to work with local farmers and craftsmen. The diary f Dr. Wasmus, which is discussed at length in the archives mentions some of hese, but not by name. Hessians were also moved to Massachusetts from Rhode sland. Unfortunately, the names of most of these are unknown, and there are xtremely few records from the Rutland, Mass. camp. Schoenewolf was reported as deserting on June 15, 1781, but we think that is ore likely the date when his desertion was reported by officers who marched outh from Massachusetts to join up with the main Hessian armies for shipment ack to Europe. He married in Leominster, Mass and settled in Rockingham, ermont. So keep searching. You never know when the next piece of the puzzle will fall nto place, or where it will come from. ack Wolfe On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Adam Call Roberts wrote: > Thanks for everyone's help! It seems as though 'Christopher Tiffaner' is either * under a name more dissimilar than the ones I've been searching for. * deserted or captured a long way from the Saratoga campaign and went to Vermont near the end of the war * a servant with the Hessian army, and not on the rolls or * possibly a different German immigrant. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which > translates to deep stream. > > > Linda Stingel-May > Ussery Printing > Cell 214 957 9219 > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Adam, >> >> I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," > however, >> I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern >> Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks >> descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did >> eventually settle there. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Susan >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message LEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~ OUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~ ttp://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~ DMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    12/21/2011 01:03:20
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Johannes Petzinger/John Pittsinger
    2. Mary Hicks
    3. Virginia, I'm new to the list but want to send my congratulations to you. 14 years! That's a lesson to all of us in what can be achieved with dedication and perseverance. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Shafer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:08 AM Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Johannes Petzinger/John Pittsinger > Hello everyone, > > > > After 14 years of gathering data, I have finally completed a 704 page > book > on the life and the descendants of Johannes Petzinger from Dudenhofen who > fought with the Hesse-Hanau artillery and was captured at the Battle of > Bennington, Vermont. As John Pittsinger, he married Rhoda French in 1783, > and they raised a family in Westhampton, Massachusetts. If anyone has > questions about John, please contact me. Virginia Shafer > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/21/2011 03:39:31
    1. [AMREV-HESSIANS] Johannes Petzinger/John Pittsinger
    2. Virginia Shafer
    3. Hello everyone, After 14 years of gathering data, I have finally completed a 704 page book on the life and the descendants of Johannes Petzinger from Dudenhofen who fought with the Hesse-Hanau artillery and was captured at the Battle of Bennington, Vermont. As John Pittsinger, he married Rhoda French in 1783, and they raised a family in Westhampton, Massachusetts. If anyone has questions about John, please contact me. Virginia Shafer

    12/21/2011 03:08:02
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Jack Wolfe
    3. Adam: You may be right, but don't give up yet. There were other Germans who ended up in southern Vermont at the end of the war that did not come down with Burgoyne. The archives will detail the search for George Hadstadt, as well as my ancestor Johann Kaspar Schoenewolf. Both were listed as deserting from Hesse-Kassel troops. We know that Hessians likely ended up in western Massachusetts from a captured troop ship. There was a prison camp built at Rutland, Massachusetts where Hessians were let out to work with local farmers and craftsmen. The diary of Dr. Wasmus, which is discussed at length in the archives mentions some of these, but not by name. Hessians were also moved to Massachusetts from Rhode Island. Unfortunately, the names of most of these are unknown, and there are extremely few records from the Rutland, Mass. camp. Schoenewolf was reported as deserting on June 15, 1781, but we think that is more likely the date when his desertion was reported by officers who marched south from Massachusetts to join up with the main Hessian armies for shipment back to Europe. He married in Leominster, Mass and settled in Rockingham, Vermont. So keep searching. You never know when the next piece of the puzzle will fall into place, or where it will come from. Jack Wolfe On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Adam Call Roberts wrote: > Thanks for everyone's help! > > It seems as though 'Christopher Tiffaner' is either > * under a name more dissimilar than the ones I've been searching for. > * deserted or captured a long way from the Saratoga campaign and went to > Vermont near the end of the war > * a servant with the Hessian army, and not on the rolls > or * possibly a different German immigrant. > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which >> translates to deep stream. >> >> >> Linda Stingel-May >> Ussery Printing >> Cell 214 957 9219 >> >> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Adam, >>> >>> I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," >> however, >>> I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern >>> Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks >>> descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did >>> eventually settle there. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Susan >>> >>> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >>> ~~~~~~~~~ >>> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 12:49:26
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Adam Call Roberts
    3. Thanks for everyone's help! It seems as though 'Christopher Tiffaner' is either * under a name more dissimilar than the ones I've been searching for. * deserted or captured a long way from the Saratoga campaign and went to Vermont near the end of the war * a servant with the Hessian army, and not on the rolls or * possibly a different German immigrant. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which > translates to deep stream. > > > Linda Stingel-May > Ussery Printing > Cell 214 957 9219 > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Adam, > > > > I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," > however, > > I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern > > Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks > > descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did > > eventually settle there. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/20/2011 11:12:16
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Look-Up Help
    2. Mary Hicks
    3. Thanks Nelda. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Look-Up Help Mary, go to rootsweb.com use the bar at the top where it says searches then click on Search Thingy — a silly name for our powerful site-wide search engine. in put "thon"... word only.. I got probably about a thousand hits. here are two: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mooregen/thon/thon.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvcccfhr/beards/records/t/thon.htm nelda Nelda L. Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ Blogs:http://why-AIM.com - http://aircastles-lets-talk.blogspot.com http://hey-you-info.blogspot.com - http://AIM-2.blogspot.com > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:38:19 -0800 > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Look-Up Help > > Doris, > Thanks for the tip. However, I've searched through most of the > amrev-hessian archives and the rootsweb archives and don't find the man to > whom you refer. Will keep digging. > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Look-Up Help > > > > > > Mary,if you go to the Hessen rootsweb list and look in their > > archives,there is a gent.doing research > > with the Thon ect.spelling ,with that name. He is located in > > Germany and he looked for some > > of his relatives over here,if not in the US + Canada..forgot. > > Good luck,Doris. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Hicks <[email protected]> > > To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:50 pm > > Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Look-Up Help > > > > > > > > (1) Brunswick troops in North America, 1776-1783 : index of all soldiers > > who > > emained in North America by Claus Reuter > > (2) Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the American Revolution, by > > Clifford > > Neal > > mith > > (3) Emigrants from Saxony by Clifford Neal Smith > > > > If any of you on the mailing list have ready access to any of these > > books, > > I > > ould greatly appreciate your help in looking up my 4th great > > grandfather. > > > > Name: John Friedrich Tone/Tohn - He signed his surname as Tone and > > Tohn, > > but > > he German records may show some variation in the surname such as Thon, > > Thoene, > > tc. My best guess would be Johann Friedrich Tohn. > > > > Born: Records suggest about 1750-52, but possibly a little later, in > > Saxony, > > ermany > > > > Served: Evidence suggests he served in Gen. Riedesel's Regiment under > > either > > ol. Friedrich Baum's in the dismounted regiment of dragoons, or under > > Lt. > > Col. > > einrich Breyman in the battalion of grenadiers. > > > > Deserted: Deserted after Battle of Bennington or taken prisoner and > > then > > eserted. > > > > Lived in: Voluntown, CT with family of James Gordon (along with > > another > > essian John Andrew Hensey/Andreas Hensee-who served under Lt. Col. Baum) > > from > > hortly after Battle of Bennington until enlistment in Connecticut Line. > > An > > ffidavit refers to John F. Tone as an "associate" of John Andrew Hensey > > which > > uggests they may have possibly either deserted together or were hired > > together > > y James Gordon. > > > > Served: Enlistment in Connecticut Line, Col. Samuel B. Webb's 3rd > > Regiment, in > > anuary 1781. Served until October 1783 when discharged by Gen. Knox at > > West > > oint. > > > > Also > > Served: 9 months during War of 1812; discharged for health reasons > > > > Lived in: East Plainfield, Sullivan, NH from prior to 1790 until > > death in > > 830. > > > > I will greatly appreciate any help you can give me in finding additional > > nformation that traces John's German roots. After working off and on > > for > > about > > year, I am just now ready to try to delve into the German side of his > > life. > > > > Mary > > > > LEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > > ~~~~~~~~ > > OUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ttp://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > DMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > body > > of > > he message > > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 08:41:50
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Susan King
    3. Adam, I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," however, I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did eventually settle there. Hope this helps. Susan

    12/20/2011 04:13:57
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Linda
    3. The original German word would probably have been Tieffenbach which translates to deep stream. Linda Stingel-May Ussery Printing Cell 214 957 9219 On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, "Susan King" <[email protected]> wrote: > Adam, > > I don't see anything close to that surname in John Merz's "Guide," however, > I do happen to know that there was a clan of DEFFINBAUGHs in the southern > Bedford Co., PA/ Allegany Co., MD area. I don't know if these folks > descended from a Hessian, but several Hessians, including mine, did > eventually settle there. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Susan > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 03:45:23
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Robert Sulentic
    3. It is possible, but I have Georg Pausch's diary where he lists all the men on his roster, and nobody's name is even close to what you're looking for. There is another possibility--all of the German units would have had servants along for the officers. Not being soldiers, these men are not listed by name, so I don't know where you might find information on them. -----Original Message----- >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >Sent: Dec 20, 2011 12:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname > >Jack, thanks for the info. I hadn't realized exactly what "warning out" >meant. So it could be that Christopher and Rebecca were newcomers to town, >rather than the townspeople kicking them out because of anger at the >Hessians and loyalists. I've seen this a couple other places in old >records, and it does make more sense now. > >It was actually the recent posts about the Burgoyne Saratoga campaign that >prompted me to finally write in, rather than lurk as I have been doing. > >Robert, it looks like you're right. I do see that some Hanau Artillery are >listed in a couple Orders of Battle for Bennington. Is there a chance that >ART could refer to these people? > >Thanks! >- Adam > >On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Robert Sulentic ><[email protected]>wrote: > >> The HETRINA entries aren't your man, if he was captured at Bennington. He >> would have been with the Brunswick troops. >> >> None of those Hessian units served with Burgoyne. >> BOS is regiment von Bose >> KNY is regiment von Knyphausen >> WIS is regiment von Wissenbach >> ART is the Hessian artillery >> >> -Robert Sulentic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Dec 19, 2011 7:22 PM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname >> > >> >I'd like to know if I'm on the right track here, and where I might be able >> >to look further. >> > >> >I'm trying to locate a Christopher Tiffaner / Tiffany on Hessian roles. >> > >> > >> > - On 23 Mar 1784, Christopher Teffener married Rebecka Ellis in >> > Bennington, VT. >> > - On 21 Apr 1784, Christopher Teffeney and his wife Rebecka were warned >> > to leave Bennington. >> > - Cambridge, VT town records show two children were born to Christopher >> > Tiffany and his wife Rebeccah in 15 Aug 1784 and in 20 Dec 1786, >> neither >> > with a place of birth shown. >> > - The Vermont Historical Gazetteer (1871) says "Christopher Tiffany, >> one >> > of Burgoyne's Dutch soldiers" immigrated from Bennington to Cambridge >> > between 1789 and 1800. >> > - In the 1790 census, Christopher Tiffaner was living in Cambridge, VT >> > with 5 white females. Other marriage, birth and death records show he >> > lived there until his death in 21 Mar 1809. He signed his named with >> an X. >> > - His grandson's journal lists Christopher Tiffany as "from Germany." >> > >> >So the obvious guess is that he was taken prisoner or deserted at >> >Bennington. >> > >> >One of my relatives suggests that 'Tiffaner' might be 'Dieffenbach' or >> >'Tiffenbacher' or something along those lines. I've received Clifford >> Neal >> >Smith's "British and German Deserters..." and can't find anyone of those >> >names or close to them. >> > >> >I had a couple hours with HETRINA on microfilm and jotted down a few >> >possibilities, along with the HETRINA abbreviations and codes. (sadly, >> >imagining I would have more time later with the index, and not writing >> down >> >what the codes meant) >> > >> >Here's the basics of what I jotted down, as far as the Christoph ____ s >> go: >> > >> >Book II: >> >Christoph Degenhardt - GE BOS4 12 2-1781 >> >Christoph Dettmar - GE BOS3 11 3-1781 >> > >> >Book III: >> >Christoph Dedenbier - GE KNY5 11 12-1774 >> >Christoph ______ - GE KNY5 11 2-1777 >> >Christoph Degenhasdt - GE RAL4 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS 5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph ______ - 12 8 - 1782 >> >Christoph Drebing - KA ART 11 10-1781 >> > >> >Book IV: >> >Christoph Toehne - KA ART 11 2-1777 >> > >> >If my search was comprehensive, I couldn't find any Christoph D___ or >> >Christoph T___ of an appropriate age who left or was captured during the >> >Saratoga campaign. >> > >> >Am I on the right track? What other sorts of names should I be looking >> for? >> >It is entirely possible that Christopher Tiffaner was not a Hessian at all >> >and the Gazetteer got it wrong. But the timing of the marriage seems >> >pretty coincidental. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Adam Call Roberts >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> >~~~~~~~~~ >> >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >~~~~~~~~~ >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 02:11:43
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Robert Sulentic
    3. It is possible, but I have Georg Pausch's diary where he lists all the men on his roster, and nobody's name is even close to what you're looking for. There is another possibility--all of the German units would have had servants along for the officers. Not being soldiers, these men are not listed by name, so I don't know where you might find information on them. -----Original Message----- >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >Sent: Dec 20, 2011 12:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname > >Jack, thanks for the info. I hadn't realized exactly what "warning out" >meant. So it could be that Christopher and Rebecca were newcomers to town, >rather than the townspeople kicking them out because of anger at the >Hessians and loyalists. I've seen this a couple other places in old >records, and it does make more sense now. > >It was actually the recent posts about the Burgoyne Saratoga campaign that >prompted me to finally write in, rather than lurk as I have been doing. > >Robert, it looks like you're right. I do see that some Hanau Artillery are >listed in a couple Orders of Battle for Bennington. Is there a chance that >ART could refer to these people? > >Thanks! >- Adam > >On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Robert Sulentic ><[email protected]>wrote: > >> The HETRINA entries aren't your man, if he was captured at Bennington. He >> would have been with the Brunswick troops. >> >> None of those Hessian units served with Burgoyne. >> BOS is regiment von Bose >> KNY is regiment von Knyphausen >> WIS is regiment von Wissenbach >> ART is the Hessian artillery >> >> -Robert Sulentic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Dec 19, 2011 7:22 PM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname >> > >> >I'd like to know if I'm on the right track here, and where I might be able >> >to look further. >> > >> >I'm trying to locate a Christopher Tiffaner / Tiffany on Hessian roles. >> > >> > >> > - On 23 Mar 1784, Christopher Teffener married Rebecka Ellis in >> > Bennington, VT. >> > - On 21 Apr 1784, Christopher Teffeney and his wife Rebecka were warned >> > to leave Bennington. >> > - Cambridge, VT town records show two children were born to Christopher >> > Tiffany and his wife Rebeccah in 15 Aug 1784 and in 20 Dec 1786, >> neither >> > with a place of birth shown. >> > - The Vermont Historical Gazetteer (1871) says "Christopher Tiffany, >> one >> > of Burgoyne's Dutch soldiers" immigrated from Bennington to Cambridge >> > between 1789 and 1800. >> > - In the 1790 census, Christopher Tiffaner was living in Cambridge, VT >> > with 5 white females. Other marriage, birth and death records show he >> > lived there until his death in 21 Mar 1809. He signed his named with >> an X. >> > - His grandson's journal lists Christopher Tiffany as "from Germany." >> > >> >So the obvious guess is that he was taken prisoner or deserted at >> >Bennington. >> > >> >One of my relatives suggests that 'Tiffaner' might be 'Dieffenbach' or >> >'Tiffenbacher' or something along those lines. I've received Clifford >> Neal >> >Smith's "British and German Deserters..." and can't find anyone of those >> >names or close to them. >> > >> >I had a couple hours with HETRINA on microfilm and jotted down a few >> >possibilities, along with the HETRINA abbreviations and codes. (sadly, >> >imagining I would have more time later with the index, and not writing >> down >> >what the codes meant) >> > >> >Here's the basics of what I jotted down, as far as the Christoph ____ s >> go: >> > >> >Book II: >> >Christoph Degenhardt - GE BOS4 12 2-1781 >> >Christoph Dettmar - GE BOS3 11 3-1781 >> > >> >Book III: >> >Christoph Dedenbier - GE KNY5 11 12-1774 >> >Christoph ______ - GE KNY5 11 2-1777 >> >Christoph Degenhasdt - GE RAL4 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS 5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph ______ - 12 8 - 1782 >> >Christoph Drebing - KA ART 11 10-1781 >> > >> >Book IV: >> >Christoph Toehne - KA ART 11 2-1777 >> > >> >If my search was comprehensive, I couldn't find any Christoph D___ or >> >Christoph T___ of an appropriate age who left or was captured during the >> >Saratoga campaign. >> > >> >Am I on the right track? What other sorts of names should I be looking >> for? >> >It is entirely possible that Christopher Tiffaner was not a Hessian at all >> >and the Gazetteer got it wrong. But the timing of the marriage seems >> >pretty coincidental. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Adam Call Roberts >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> >~~~~~~~~~ >> >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >~~~~~~~~~ >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 02:10:52
    1. Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname
    2. Robert Sulentic
    3. It is possible, but I have Georg Pausch's diary where he lists all the men on his roster, and nobody's name is even close to what you're looking for. There is another possibility--all of the German units would have had servants along for the officers. Not being soldiers, these men are not listed by name, so I don't know where you might find information on them. -----Original Message----- >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >Sent: Dec 20, 2011 12:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname > >Jack, thanks for the info. I hadn't realized exactly what "warning out" >meant. So it could be that Christopher and Rebecca were newcomers to town, >rather than the townspeople kicking them out because of anger at the >Hessians and loyalists. I've seen this a couple other places in old >records, and it does make more sense now. > >It was actually the recent posts about the Burgoyne Saratoga campaign that >prompted me to finally write in, rather than lurk as I have been doing. > >Robert, it looks like you're right. I do see that some Hanau Artillery are >listed in a couple Orders of Battle for Bennington. Is there a chance that >ART could refer to these people? > >Thanks! >- Adam > >On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Robert Sulentic ><[email protected]>wrote: > >> The HETRINA entries aren't your man, if he was captured at Bennington. He >> would have been with the Brunswick troops. >> >> None of those Hessian units served with Burgoyne. >> BOS is regiment von Bose >> KNY is regiment von Knyphausen >> WIS is regiment von Wissenbach >> ART is the Hessian artillery >> >> -Robert Sulentic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Adam Call Roberts <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Dec 19, 2011 7:22 PM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] "Tiffnaner" Surname >> > >> >I'd like to know if I'm on the right track here, and where I might be able >> >to look further. >> > >> >I'm trying to locate a Christopher Tiffaner / Tiffany on Hessian roles. >> > >> > >> > - On 23 Mar 1784, Christopher Teffener married Rebecka Ellis in >> > Bennington, VT. >> > - On 21 Apr 1784, Christopher Teffeney and his wife Rebecka were warned >> > to leave Bennington. >> > - Cambridge, VT town records show two children were born to Christopher >> > Tiffany and his wife Rebeccah in 15 Aug 1784 and in 20 Dec 1786, >> neither >> > with a place of birth shown. >> > - The Vermont Historical Gazetteer (1871) says "Christopher Tiffany, >> one >> > of Burgoyne's Dutch soldiers" immigrated from Bennington to Cambridge >> > between 1789 and 1800. >> > - In the 1790 census, Christopher Tiffaner was living in Cambridge, VT >> > with 5 white females. Other marriage, birth and death records show he >> > lived there until his death in 21 Mar 1809. He signed his named with >> an X. >> > - His grandson's journal lists Christopher Tiffany as "from Germany." >> > >> >So the obvious guess is that he was taken prisoner or deserted at >> >Bennington. >> > >> >One of my relatives suggests that 'Tiffaner' might be 'Dieffenbach' or >> >'Tiffenbacher' or something along those lines. I've received Clifford >> Neal >> >Smith's "British and German Deserters..." and can't find anyone of those >> >names or close to them. >> > >> >I had a couple hours with HETRINA on microfilm and jotted down a few >> >possibilities, along with the HETRINA abbreviations and codes. (sadly, >> >imagining I would have more time later with the index, and not writing >> down >> >what the codes meant) >> > >> >Here's the basics of what I jotted down, as far as the Christoph ____ s >> go: >> > >> >Book II: >> >Christoph Degenhardt - GE BOS4 12 2-1781 >> >Christoph Dettmar - GE BOS3 11 3-1781 >> > >> >Book III: >> >Christoph Dedenbier - GE KNY5 11 12-1774 >> >Christoph ______ - GE KNY5 11 2-1777 >> >Christoph Degenhasdt - GE RAL4 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph Dieffenbach - GE WIS 5 12 12-1779 >> >Christoph ______ - 12 8 - 1782 >> >Christoph Drebing - KA ART 11 10-1781 >> > >> >Book IV: >> >Christoph Toehne - KA ART 11 2-1777 >> > >> >If my search was comprehensive, I couldn't find any Christoph D___ or >> >Christoph T___ of an appropriate age who left or was captured during the >> >Saratoga campaign. >> > >> >Am I on the right track? What other sorts of names should I be looking >> for? >> >It is entirely possible that Christopher Tiffaner was not a Hessian at all >> >and the Gazetteer got it wrong. But the timing of the marriage seems >> >pretty coincidental. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Adam Call Roberts >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> >~~~~~~~~~ >> >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >~~~~~~~~~ >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ADMINISTRATOR&lt;Kerri> [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2011 01:43:46