The closest thing is the list that Clifford Neal Smith published, which comes from one prepared by the British near the end of the war. It's at the Library of Congress. I believe if you go to the LoC site and search on "German soldiers Revolutionary War," the item will pop up. I looked at microfilm there. It's very hard to read. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Holdzkom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:33 AM Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Convention Army Barracks > Does anyone on this list know if there is a list of prisoners quartered at > the Convention Army Barracks? > > > Jack Holdzkom > Virginia Beach, VA > Possible descendant of Braunschweig Grenadier Christian Holzkamp > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Does anyone on this list know if there is a list of prisoners quartered at the Convention Army Barracks? Jack Holdzkom Virginia Beach, VA Possible descendant of Braunschweig Grenadier Christian Holzkamp
P.S. My only complaint: I wish they had used "auxiliary soldiers" (as Clifford Neal Smith did) instead of "mercenaries." It perpetuates the myth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Derrow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-AlbemarleBarracks > Ed, > > Thanks for sharing this. I've forwarded it to several of my kinfolks. > For > some, it will be a tangible reminder, as well as a short and sweet > explanation, of the circumstances surrounding the founding of our family > in > America by a Braunschweig soldier, Levy Derrow/Levin Doerges/Johann Levien > Doerries. > > Bill Derrow > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Rinaca" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:17 PM > Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-Albemarle > Barracks > > >> >> >> >> A roadside Historical Marker was recently placed near the site of the >> Albemarle Barracks near Charlottesville, VA. >> >> Here is the link to a photo and information. >> >> >> >> Ed Rinaca >> >> >> >> http://www.markerhistory.com/convention-army-the-barracks-w-166/ >> PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >> ~~~~~~~~~ >> FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Ed, Thanks for sharing this. I've forwarded it to several of my kinfolks. For some, it will be a tangible reminder, as well as a short and sweet explanation, of the circumstances surrounding the founding of our family in America by a Braunschweig soldier, Levy Derrow/Levin Doerges/Johann Levien Doerries. Bill Derrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Rinaca" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-Albemarle Barracks > > > > A roadside Historical Marker was recently placed near the site of the > Albemarle Barracks near Charlottesville, VA. > > Here is the link to a photo and information. > > > > Ed Rinaca > > > > http://www.markerhistory.com/convention-army-the-barracks-w-166/ > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There's a list of the Bruswickers who stayed in America. See my last email for more info on where to find it. Book is by Claus Reuter, "Brunswick troops in North America, 1776-1783 : index of all soldiers who remained in North America" ________________________________ From: Jack Holdzkom <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:33 AM Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Convention Army Barracks Does anyone on this list know if there is a list of prisoners quartered at the Convention Army Barracks? Jack Holdzkom Virginia Beach, VA Possible descendant of Braunschweig Grenadier Christian Holzkamp PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I can't figure out from looking at a map if Treffurt was in the duchy of Brunswick-Lunnenberg or not, but the majority of the troops in the POW barracks at Charlottesville were from there and not one of the Hesse duchies. Although I think there was one unit of Jaegers which were actually Hessians. See wikipedia for discussion on where the troops under General/Baron von Riedesel were from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_in_the_American_Revolution#Braunschweig-Wolfenb.C3.BCttel_.28.22Brunswick.22.29 They were captured at the battle of Saratoga, NY and marched from there to Charlottesville and from C'ville through Winchester to Reading, PA. They were also known as the Convention Army. The Baron and his wife both wrote memoirs about their experiences here in America which give a much better account of what happened than most historical records which seem to slant towards the British version of what happened. Both the memoirs are available through inter-library loan. There is a book which lists every member of the Brunswickers who stayed in America, where they were from, and what happened to them (not necessarily where they ended up more specifically than stayed in America). The book is written by Claus Reuter, "Brunswick troops in North America, 1776-1783 : index of all soldiers who remained in North America" I found this book in the reference section at the Library of Virginia in Richmond, VA. I know it is also available in C'ville, but am not sure if it is in Univ of VA or the C'ville historical society. You can also buy online for $25+. For my ancestor, the last name was spelled differently so we had to validate by age, first name, similarity of last name, what happened to him (sold himself to American, ie indentured himself). Have fun Suzanne Pryse From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-Albemarle Barracks Are their lists of prisoners held there? My ancestor, Heinrich Adam Nollner, appeared in Petersburg, VA70 miles southeast of C'ville, in mid-1780s as Henry A. Nollner. His 1843 obituary said "he fought in the late revolution." but I haven't been able to find him associated with troops on either side. He was born in Treffurt in 1761. A descendant post WWII visited and found his roots, but not yhe military service. Carol A. Preece -----Original Message----- >From: Ed Rinaca <[email protected]> >Sent: May 15, 2012 9:17 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-Albemarle Barracks > > > > >A roadside Historical Marker was recently placed near the site of the Albemarle Barracks near Charlottesville, VA. > >Here is the link to a photo and information. > > > >Ed Rinaca > > > >http://www.markerhistory.com/convention-army-the-barracks-w-166/ >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >~~~~~~~~~ >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Are their lists of prisoners held there? My ancestor, Heinrich Adam Nollner, appeared in Petersburg, VA70 miles southeast of C'ville, in mid-1780s as Henry A. Nollner. His 1843 obituary said "he fought in the late revolution." but I haven't been able to find him associated with troops on either side. He was born in Treffurt in 1761. A descendant post WWII visited and found his roots, but not yhe military service. Carol A. Preece -----Original Message----- >From: Ed Rinaca <[email protected]> >Sent: May 15, 2012 9:17 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] New Roadside Historical Marker-Albemarle Barracks > > > > >A roadside Historical Marker was recently placed near the site of the Albemarle Barracks near Charlottesville, VA. > >Here is the link to a photo and information. > > > >Ed Rinaca > > > >http://www.markerhistory.com/convention-army-the-barracks-w-166/ >PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! >~~~~~~~~~ >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
A roadside Historical Marker was recently placed near the site of the Albemarle Barracks near Charlottesville, VA. Here is the link to a photo and information. Ed Rinaca http://www.markerhistory.com/convention-army-the-barracks-w-166/
Does anyone know if such a listing exits for the prisoners held in Frederick, MD after they were marched from Winchester, VA? Kevin D. Smeltzer
I have the list from the book"Hessian Prtisoners and their Employers in the Lebanon Twp area by Gladys Bucher Sowers a GEORGE BLUM.laborer(knecht),wagonhand,packhand,tenthand. Artillery ,Prisoner of war 2/1777(HetIV-0486) Imprisoned at Lancaster 6 Jan 1777 Deserted?(JSHA Vol 7, No 2.pg 55). He was employed by Philip Gloninger in Leb 11/3/1777 Also listed was JOHN ADAM BLUM and HENRY BLUM Also I have a copy from Cols, Ohio lib a list from Historical Society of Pa a list of Hessian and Waldeck Prisoners of War received July ,1778 from William Atlee, Esq., Lancaster to be exchanged. ADAM BLUM from RALL, ___BLUMME of GRN, and GEORGE BLUMME of ART were listed. Hope you find this information helpful. Evelyn Butts [email protected]
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The book Johannes Schwalm the Hessian, page 239, lists Johanes Stumpf under File No. 615, Source Code c, Regiment Kny, with no entry under Exchange List. Source Code c indicates that his name appeared only on the list of prisoners from Lancaster received at Philadelphia. He was part of the von Knyphausen Regiment. There is no indication of who he worked for or the location of any work. With no entry on the Lancaster Exchange List I would assume he was not among those prisoners exchanged in 1777 and 1778, and therefore might have left the Hessian side before this time. Hope this is of some help. Doug MacDonald descendant of Nicolaus Henckell
Hi Freeman: The name of Crede's regiment might be a clue for you to follow. I suspect that Rohl is misspelled as Rall. The von Rall regiment was captured at Trenton. The Johannes Schwalm published the list of prisoners in an early copy of their journal. They sell copies of the list independently so you might email or write to them for a copy.Curt > Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 22:08:09 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] John Gordin around Lancaster PA > > Hi! I'm new to this mailing list, and would appreciate any help or tips to > get my started! I'm researching an ancestor of mine who pops up in > Lancaster County PA in 1783, and I suspect he may have been a Hessian > solider who remained in America. His name was John Gordon/Gordin/Gorden. He > later migrated to Allegheny County PA in 1789 with his brother-in-law > Johannes Crede, who served in Rohl's*spelling regiment. Does anyone know > where I might start searching for in regards to Hessian soldiers in the > Lancaster PA area? > > Thanks in advance! > Freeman Bartek > PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! > ~~~~~~~~~ > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi! I'm new to this mailing list, and would appreciate any help or tips to get my started! I'm researching an ancestor of mine who pops up in Lancaster County PA in 1783, and I suspect he may have been a Hessian solider who remained in America. His name was John Gordon/Gordin/Gorden. He later migrated to Allegheny County PA in 1789 with his brother-in-law Johannes Crede, who served in Rohl's*spelling regiment. Does anyone know where I might start searching for in regards to Hessian soldiers in the Lancaster PA area? Thanks in advance! Freeman Bartek
On May 5, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Douglas MacDonald wrote: Douglas, Would you please check in the book you mentioned In “Johannes Schwalm the Hessian” and see if there is any STUMPF man shown in that list? I don't recall having heard of that list before of names. Thanks, Cecilia Stumpf Hughes
Jochen Seidel has a list based on Erhard Städtler's, "Die Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg 1777-1783" posted on the Internet: http://www.jochen-seidel.de/ab-troops/ Look under "Database", then click to view the list of names. I don't see Lichtenfels associated with the name Fuss/Fuchs. Marie Rasnick Fetzer -----Original Message----- From: Matt Reardon Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Die-Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen 1777-1783 Does anyone have access to the book Die-Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen 1777-1783andcould do a possible look up for anyone named Fuss or Fuchs that is listed from Lichtenfels? Thanks in advance, Matt ________________________________ PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Marie! I've already looked through that list. After not finding what I was looking for, I'm trying to find a list that I think is in that book of the names who went back after the war. Matt ________________________________ From: Marie Rasnick Fetzer <[email protected]> To: Matt Reardon <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Die-Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen 1777-1783 Jochen Seidel has a list based on Erhard Städtler's, "Die Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhängigkeitskrieg 1777-1783" posted on the Internet: http://www.jochen-seidel.de/ab-troops/ Look under "Database", then click to view the list of names. I don't see Lichtenfels associated with the name Fuss/Fuchs. Marie Rasnick Fetzer -----Original Message----- From: Matt Reardon Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Die-Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen 1777-1783 Does anyone have access to the book Die-Ansbach-Bayreuther Truppen 1777-1783andcould do a possible look up for anyone named Fuss or Fuchs that is listed from Lichtenfels? Thanks in advance, Matt ________________________________ PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS! ~~~~~~~~~ FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 Created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADMINISTRATOR<Kerri> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message