Thanks Matt,   My ancestor was in the Specht regiment, but he stayed in PA.  Did not know part of the regiment went to Connecticut.  They went there after having been held in Charlottesville, VA or on the way to Charlottesville?   From what I have read the servants were not soldiers, but civilians that the officers brought with them.  Both General Reidesel and the Baronese brought civilian servants, according to their memoirs.   Suzanne Pryse From: Matt Reardon <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:37 PM Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Brunswick Prisoners Held in Connecticut Ever since I discovered that prisoners from Burgoyne's army were housed in my town during the latter part of the war, I have always wondered who they were and where exactly they were held.  I've spent the last year of so digging through a bunch of sources and would like to share what I've found thus far with the list. As you probably already know prisoners of Burgoyne's army was sent back up to north as the war progressed in the south.  Well roughly 178 of those prisoners ended up in Connecticut and were to be divided between two towns, East Windsor (now South Windsor) and Tolland (my hometown). I discovered the following list in "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut."  It can be accessed for free online through google books.  These are the names of the Brunswick prisoners held between the two towns.  It lists the unit, the number of that unit held in Connecticut, the officer held prisoner, the number of that officer's servants (I assume these are probably enlisted soldiers?).  I haven't yet been able to separate the list by towns. Any suggestions where I can further my research on them in Connecticut would be greatly appreciated. -Matt Prinz Ludwig Dragoons-(3) Lieutenant August Bornemann (1. Leib-Escadron)             2 servants   Musketeer Regiment von Rhetz-(44) Captain Georg Phil. Ahrend (1. Leib-Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Mordecai             2 servants Lieutenant Curt von Hessler (2. Lieutenant Colonels Company) 3 servants Ensign Bernhard Ehrich (2. Lieutenant Colonels Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Friedrich W.M. von Dobeneck (3. Majors Company)             2 servants Lieutenant Johann Henrich Meyer (5. Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Carl Friedrich Conrady (5.Company)             1 servant Sous.-Lieutenant C. Christian Petersen (5. Company)             1 servant Captain Conrad Anton Alers (4. Company)             3 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Friedrich Wilhelm Feichel (4. Company)             2 servants Chaplain Toegel             3 servants Judge Schmidt             3 servants Surgeon Schrader             2 servants Surgeon-Mate Pletzer             1 servant     Musketeer Regiment von Specht-(51) Major Carl Friedrich von Ehrenkrook 6 servants Staff-Captain Henrich Jaegar (1. Leib-Company)             5 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Johann Henrich Meyer (Company Captain Leopold Franz von Plessen)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Anton Adolf von Poi II (2. Majors Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Milkath             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Friedrich Ernst Oldekopp (4. Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Henrich Daniel d’Anniers (3. Company)             3 servants Second-Lieutenant Johann Friedrich Julius Kettner (5. Company)             2 servants Ensign Johann Henrich Carl von Bernewitz (1. Leib-Company)             2 servants Ensign Samuel Jacob Anton von Ulmenstein (2. Majors Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Grimpe (3. Company)             2 servants Chaplain Kohle             2 servants Judge-Advocate Baehr             2 servants Surgeon-Mate Hengst             1 servant   Grenadier Battalion von Breymann-(24) Major Otto Carl Anton von Mengen             3 servants Captain Albrecht Daniel von Loehneysen (2. Company)             2 servants Adjutant Lieutenant Heinrich Ulig             2 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Wilhelm Helmecke (3. Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Christian Wilhelm von Trott (2. Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Otto Ferdinand Rudolphi (1. Lieutenant Colonel’s Company)             3 servants Lieutenant de Muzek             2 servants Regimental-Surgeon Friedrich Mueller             2 servants   Light Battalion von Barner-(11) Prem.-Lieutenant Philip Kruse (2. Jager Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Gottlieb von Gladen (3. 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Nelda, I'm guessing you might be referring to my email. I apologize.   Matt ________________________________ From: Nelda Percival <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] 3 AMREV-HESSIANS moderator request(s) waiting Please, if Your post/email is very long make it part one and part two, part??.  You see some folks don't have the ability to receive large emails.. and if it is larger then allowed it hangs up in the system and either I have to approve it or return it... So, if it doesn't come through it got hung up for some reason... nelda Nelda L. Percival, Administrator of Y-DNA surname projects Gilpin, Cupp, Bonstein, Gillock My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us  Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs. ~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~ > Subject: 3 AMREV-HESSIANS moderator request(s) waiting > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:01:15 -0600 > > The [email protected] mailing list has 3 request(s) waiting > for your consideration at:                         ############################### FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ AmRev-Hessian Website http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Volunteer Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ever since I discovered that prisoners from Burgoyne's army were housed in my town during the latter part of the war, I have always wondered who they were and where exactly they were held.  I've spent the last year of so digging through a bunch of sources and would like to share what I've found thus far with the list. As you probably already know prisoners of Burgoyne's army was sent back up to north as the war progressed in the south.  Well roughly 178 of those prisoners ended up in Connecticut and were to be divided between two towns, East Windsor (now South Windsor) and Tolland (my hometown). I discovered the following list in "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut."  It can be accessed for free online through google books.  These are the names of the Brunswick prisoners held between the two towns.  It lists the unit, the number of that unit held in Connecticut, the officer held prisoner, the number of that officer's servants (I assume these are probably enlisted soldiers?).  I haven't yet been able to separate the list by towns. Any suggestions where I can further my research on them in Connecticut would be greatly appreciated. -Matt Prinz Ludwig Dragoons-(3) Lieutenant August Bornemann (1. Leib-Escadron)             2 servants   Musketeer Regiment von Rhetz-(44) Captain Georg Phil. Ahrend (1. Leib-Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Mordecai             2 servants Lieutenant Curt von Hessler (2. Lieutenant Colonels Company) 3 servants Ensign Bernhard Ehrich (2. Lieutenant Colonels Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Friedrich W.M. von Dobeneck (3. Majors Company)             2 servants Lieutenant Johann Henrich Meyer (5. Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Carl Friedrich Conrady (5.Company)             1 servant Sous.-Lieutenant C. Christian Petersen (5. Company)             1 servant Captain Conrad Anton Alers (4. Company)             3 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Friedrich Wilhelm Feichel (4. Company)             2 servants Chaplain Toegel             3 servants Judge Schmidt             3 servants Surgeon Schrader             2 servants Surgeon-Mate Pletzer             1 servant     Musketeer Regiment von Specht-(51) Major Carl Friedrich von Ehrenkrook 6 servants Staff-Captain Henrich Jaegar (1. Leib-Company)             5 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Johann Henrich Meyer (Company Captain Leopold Franz von Plessen)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Anton Adolf von Poi II (2. Majors Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Milkath             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Friedrich Ernst Oldekopp (4. Company)             2 servants Second-Lieutenant Henrich Daniel d’Anniers (3. Company)             3 servants Second-Lieutenant Johann Friedrich Julius Kettner (5. Company)             2 servants Ensign Johann Henrich Carl von Bernewitz (1. Leib-Company)             2 servants Ensign Samuel Jacob Anton von Ulmenstein (2. Majors Company)             3 servants Lieutenant Grimpe (3. Company)             2 servants Chaplain Kohle             2 servants Judge-Advocate Baehr             2 servants Surgeon-Mate Hengst             1 servant   Grenadier Battalion von Breymann-(24) Major Otto Carl Anton von Mengen             3 servants Captain Albrecht Daniel von Loehneysen (2. Company)             2 servants Adjutant Lieutenant Heinrich Ulig             2 servants Prem.-Lieutenant Wilhelm Helmecke (3. Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Christian Wilhelm von Trott (2. Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Otto Ferdinand Rudolphi (1. Lieutenant Colonel’s Company)             3 servants Lieutenant de Muzek             2 servants Regimental-Surgeon Friedrich Mueller             2 servants   Light Battalion von Barner-(11) Prem.-Lieutenant Philip Kruse (2. Jager Company)             1 servant Prem.-Lieutenant Gottlieb von Gladen (3. Company)            1 servant Lieutenant Caspar Friedrich Rohr (4. Company)             2 servants Lieutenant Wilhelm Lucas Rhenius            1 servant Surgeon Konze             1 servant

Fusilier. So named for a weapon, the "Fusil", another French word for a musket-like weapon that was of smaller caliber than the common musket. Although, at this time in the Hessian army, there was no difference in the kinds of muskets carried by fusiliers, musketiers, or Grenadiers. The Hessian fusilier regiments were all created (actually redesignated existing regiments) by Landgraf Frederick in the early 1760's in imitation of similarly named regiments in the Prussian Army. The name was not necessarily permanent. The Erbprinz fusilier regiment was redesignated as a musketier regiment in 1780. Hope that helps, -RNS -----Original Message----- >From: Nelda Percival <[email protected]> >Sent: Jun 5, 2012 7:27 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] What is a "Fuselier" > > >Hi, >Received a request off the list - included is her email in full - and please reply to both the list and her personal address... >Nelda >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:40:31 -0700 >From: [email protected] >Subject: Question re Hessians >To: [email protected] > >I knew nothing about the Hessians--except the Battle of Trenton...and although I have learned exciting new info from your site...I have a question: > >My husband's ancestor was (Johann) Werner Bock. According to your site, he was in the K-7, Kassel Fuselier Regt. von Knyphausen. I understand that von Knyphausen was the commander of the regt, and I understand that Kassel is refering to a place in Germany.....but does "Fuselier" mean "fuse-lighter"? I looked at the other names "Musketier", "Grenadier",etc--Musket and Grenade, correct? When I do a search for the meaning of Fuselier, I keep finding it used as a surname. I looked and looked through your site, so I hope I didn't miss something you clearly posted. > >Thank you for any information you can > give me. > >Dani [email protected] > >############################### >FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >AmRev-Hessian Website >http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin >~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Volunteer Administrator [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Dani, I posted a very brief definition of Fuselier on this mailing list a couple of months ago. See the thread “Hessian Terminology/Silent Film” dated 1 March 2012. FUSILIER was originally the name of a soldier armed with a light flintlock musket called the fusil. The word was first used around 1680, and has later developed into a regimental designation. There is more in depth information if you Google it, and others on this list may have more detailed information. Marie Rasnick Fetzer

Hi, Received a request off the list - included is her email in full - and please reply to both the list and her personal address... Nelda Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:40:31 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: Question re Hessians To: [email protected] I knew nothing about the Hessians--except the Battle of Trenton...and although I have learned exciting new info from your site...I have a question: My husband's ancestor was (Johann) Werner Bock. According to your site, he was in the K-7, Kassel Fuselier Regt. von Knyphausen. I understand that von Knyphausen was the commander of the regt, and I understand that Kassel is refering to a place in Germany.....but does "Fuselier" mean "fuse-lighter"? I looked at the other names "Musketier", "Grenadier",etc--Musket and Grenade, correct? When I do a search for the meaning of Fuselier, I keep finding it used as a surname. I looked and looked through your site, so I hope I didn't miss something you clearly posted. Thank you for any information you can give me. Dani [email protected]

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Jack, (List, some of you may be asking the same questions) Your question on replying to digest emails, the answer is simple click on your reply button, insure the mailing list address is in the "TO" line and the subject line has been changed to your subject. Then cut out all unneeded messages. make your comments and send. Or copy past the email address (addy) to a new email; copy paste the required data from the digest, Use an effective subject line, Make your comments and send. All, emails sent to the list are consolidated in the digest, but they are also sent separately to those signed up for normal messages. You will get a copy of your own message, either in the digest if that is what you signed up for or in normal emails if that was your choice. Nelda Nelda L. Percival, Administrator of Y-DNA surname projects Gilpin, Cupp, Bonstein, Gillock My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs. ~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~ Message parts SNIPPED out: Question: can you tell me how to reply to a specific message in the Digest? I recently posed a question to the list about the Convention Army Barracks at Charlottesville and received a reply, but haven't been able to figure out how to reply on the list to the person who answered my question. If there is currently no means to do that (reply to a message via the list), could that be included in the future? (such as a link "reply to this message") ##################

Actually, one of Henry Descendants through his daughter Susanna who married Martin Brubaker applied to the DAR for membership. She became a member #723099. Warm Regards, Jane Curci Descendant of Arnold Haupt, Hessian Soldier Member (Sort By Member ID) ID Add Vol. Docs Child [Spouse #] Spouse 723099 766 SUSANNA [1] MARTIN BRUBAKER -----Original Message----- From: wmcurci <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]>; freeman.bartek1 <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2012 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] ADMIN NOTE: Hello, I found Henry Goodhart was a patriot during the American Revolution per the DAR index. Warm Regards, Jane Curci Descendant of Arnold Haupt, Hessian Soldier GOODHART, HENRY Ancestor #: A131870 Service: PENNSYLVANIA Rank: PATRIOTIC SERVICE Birth: (ANTE) 1755 Death: (ANTE) 1810 LANCASTER CO-PROB PENNSYLVANIA Service Description: 1) SIGNED OATH OF ALLEGIANCE Residence 1) County: LANCASTER CO - State: PENNSYLVANIA Spouse Number Name 1) CATHERINE X 2) CATHERINE WEIL Member: -- Name Restricted -- Nat'l #: 723099 Ancestor #: A131870 1.-- Generation Restricted -- 2.-- Generation Restricted -- 3.-- Generation Restricted -- 4.John Zander born on 24 - Sep - 1850 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 4 - May - 1917 and his ( 1st ) wife Alice Elmira Herr born on 15 - Jul - 1858 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 7 - Mar - 1952 married on - - 5.The Said Alice Elmira Herr was the child of Samuel Bomberger Herr born on 29 - Jan - 1822 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 25 - Aug - 1902 and his ( 1st ) wife Magdalena Brubaker born on 17 - Jul - 1823 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 6 - Aug - 1901 married on 18 - Jun - 1841 married at Lancaster Co PA 6.The Said Magdalena Brubaker was the child of Susanna Martin Brubaker born on 27 - Jul - 1795 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 19 - May - 1872 and his ( 1st ) wife Susanna Goodhart born on 12 - May - 1797 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 4 - Jun - 1874 married on - - 7.The Said Susanna Goodhart was the child of Henry Gutherd born on (c) - - 1755 at _______________ died at Lancaster Co PA on (c) - - 1810 and his ( 2nd ) wife Catherine Weil born on 31 - Oct - 1771 at Lancaster Lanc Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 12 - Oct - 1845 married on 5 - Apr - 1791 married at Lanc Lanc Co PA Associated Ancestor (Revolutionary) RecordGOODHART, HENRY Ancestor #: A131870 Service: PENNSYLVANIA Rank: PATRIOTIC SERVICE Birth: (ANTE) 1755 Death: (ANTE) 1810 LANCASTER CO-PROB PENNSYLVANIA Service Description: 1) SIGNED OATH OF ALLEGIANCE -----Original Message----- From: Nelda Percival <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]>; freeman.bartek1 <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:58 pm Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] ADMIN NOTE: LEASE REMEMBER - to change the SUBJECT LINE INFORMATION when you send a message hat is NOT about that subject! In this case it should read: Was Henry Goodhart a Hessian. Or something like hat. It is always better to use the name of the person your researching you can dd in other data like birth and death dates or locations... But make your ubject line count! Nelda ew / Old Admin Nelda L. Percival, Administrator of Y-DNA surname projects Gilpin, Cupp, onstein, Gillock y Genealogy-http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy-http://www.geneticsand.us ttp://www.gilpingenetics.us 0~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:46:29 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations Hi! I'm looking for any information on a Henry Goodhart from Hesse, who might have served as a Hessian solider during the American Revolution? He married Catherine Weil in Lancaster PA 1791. Any help to confirm or deny him having any Hessian service would be greatly appreciated! I know his brother-in-law Johannes Crede served as a Hessian solider in Rall's regiment. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Freeman Bartek On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Suzanne Pryse <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you be more specific on where the roll call is outside > Charlottesville? I'd like to go see it. > > Thanks, Suzanne > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > Hello, > Carl Simon Wrede (Charles Frady), Braunschweiger, is found in the records > taking communion in 1792 at the Hebron Lutheran Church in Culpeper County > (now Madison). He is also listed in a undated document with others of the > same church as a "communicating member". He is listed on the roll call at > the Barracks outside Charlottesville in 1779. He moved to Surry County, > NC, about 1793. There he is listed in the court records of a Methodist > church as a Trustee. > Louise > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > . > > > In a message dated 5/26/2012 5:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone have good sources as to religious affiliation of Hessians in > general as well as specific ancestors? > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > AmRev-Hessian Website > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Volunteer Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ############################### > FOUNDER: John H. 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Patriot status by DAR standards could mean he only paid taxes to the Colonies after he was captured, or held prisoner and decided to join the other side. There was a huge effort by the Colonies to get the prisoners to defect from the "Hessian" ranks. They were successful in that campaign. Kevin D. Smeltzer

Hello, I found Henry Goodhart was a patriot during the American Revolution per the DAR index. Warm Regards, Jane Curci Descendant of Arnold Haupt, Hessian Soldier GOODHART, HENRY Ancestor #: A131870 Service: PENNSYLVANIA Rank: PATRIOTIC SERVICE Birth: (ANTE) 1755 Death: (ANTE) 1810 LANCASTER CO-PROB PENNSYLVANIA Service Description: 1) SIGNED OATH OF ALLEGIANCE Residence 1) County: LANCASTER CO - State: PENNSYLVANIA Spouse Number Name 1) CATHERINE X 2) CATHERINE WEIL Member: -- Name Restricted -- Nat'l #: 723099 Ancestor #: A131870 1.-- Generation Restricted -- 2.-- Generation Restricted -- 3.-- Generation Restricted -- 4.John Zander born on 24 - Sep - 1850 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 4 - May - 1917 and his ( 1st ) wife Alice Elmira Herr born on 15 - Jul - 1858 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 7 - Mar - 1952 married on - - 5.The Said Alice Elmira Herr was the child of Samuel Bomberger Herr born on 29 - Jan - 1822 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 25 - Aug - 1902 and his ( 1st ) wife Magdalena Brubaker born on 17 - Jul - 1823 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 6 - Aug - 1901 married on 18 - Jun - 1841 married at Lancaster Co PA 6.The Said Magdalena Brubaker was the child of Susanna Martin Brubaker born on 27 - Jul - 1795 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 19 - May - 1872 and his ( 1st ) wife Susanna Goodhart born on 12 - May - 1797 at Lancaster Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 4 - Jun - 1874 married on - - 7.The Said Susanna Goodhart was the child of Henry Gutherd born on (c) - - 1755 at _______________ died at Lancaster Co PA on (c) - - 1810 and his ( 2nd ) wife Catherine Weil born on 31 - Oct - 1771 at Lancaster Lanc Co PA died at Lancaster Co PA on 12 - Oct - 1845 married on 5 - Apr - 1791 married at Lanc Lanc Co PA Associated Ancestor (Revolutionary) RecordGOODHART, HENRY Ancestor #: A131870 Service: PENNSYLVANIA Rank: PATRIOTIC SERVICE Birth: (ANTE) 1755 Death: (ANTE) 1810 LANCASTER CO-PROB PENNSYLVANIA Service Description: 1) SIGNED OATH OF ALLEGIANCE -----Original Message----- From: Nelda Percival <[email protected]> To: amrev-hessians <[email protected]>; freeman.bartek1 <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2012 5:58 pm Subject: [AMREV-HESSIANS] ADMIN NOTE: LEASE REMEMBER - to change the SUBJECT LINE INFORMATION when you send a message hat is NOT about that subject! In this case it should read: Was Henry Goodhart a Hessian. Or something like hat. It is always better to use the name of the person your researching you can dd in other data like birth and death dates or locations... But make your ubject line count! Nelda ew / Old Admin Nelda L. Percival, Administrator of Y-DNA surname projects Gilpin, Cupp, onstein, Gillock y Genealogy-http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy-http://www.geneticsand.us ttp://www.gilpingenetics.us 0~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:46:29 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations Hi! I'm looking for any information on a Henry Goodhart from Hesse, who might have served as a Hessian solider during the American Revolution? He married Catherine Weil in Lancaster PA 1791. Any help to confirm or deny him having any Hessian service would be greatly appreciated! I know his brother-in-law Johannes Crede served as a Hessian solider in Rall's regiment. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Freeman Bartek On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Suzanne Pryse <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you be more specific on where the roll call is outside > Charlottesville? I'd like to go see it. > > Thanks, Suzanne > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > Hello, > Carl Simon Wrede (Charles Frady), Braunschweiger, is found in the records > taking communion in 1792 at the Hebron Lutheran Church in Culpeper County > (now Madison). He is also listed in a undated document with others of the > same church as a "communicating member". He is listed on the roll call at > the Barracks outside Charlottesville in 1779. He moved to Surry County, > NC, about 1793. There he is listed in the court records of a Methodist > church as a Trustee. > Louise > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > . > > > In a message dated 5/26/2012 5:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone have good sources as to religious affiliation of Hessians in > general as well as specific ancestors? > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > AmRev-Hessian Website > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Volunteer Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ############################### > FOUNDER: John H. 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PLEASE REMEMBER - to change the SUBJECT LINE INFORMATION when you send a message that is NOT about that subject! In this case it should read: Was Henry Goodhart a Hessian. Or something like that. It is always better to use the name of the person your researching you can add in other data like birth and death dates or locations... But make your subject line count! Nelda New / Old Admin Nelda L. Percival, Administrator of Y-DNA surname projects Gilpin, Cupp, Bonstein, Gillock My Genealogy-http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy-http://www.geneticsand.us http://www.gilpingenetics.us ~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~ > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:46:29 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > Hi! I'm looking for any information on a Henry Goodhart from Hesse, who > might have served as a Hessian solider during the American Revolution? He > married Catherine Weil in Lancaster PA 1791. Any help to confirm or deny > him having any Hessian service would be greatly appreciated! I know his > brother-in-law Johannes Crede served as a Hessian solider in Rall's > regiment. Thanks in advance! > > Best regards, > Freeman Bartek > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Suzanne Pryse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can you be more specific on where the roll call is outside > > Charlottesville? I'd like to go see it. > > > > Thanks, Suzanne > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > > > Hello, > > Carl Simon Wrede (Charles Frady), Braunschweiger, is found in the records > > taking communion in 1792 at the Hebron Lutheran Church in Culpeper County > > (now Madison). He is also listed in a undated document with others of the > > same church as a "communicating member". He is listed on the roll call at > > the Barracks outside Charlottesville in 1779. He moved to Surry County, > > NC, about 1793. There he is listed in the court records of a Methodist > > church as a Trustee. > > Louise > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > . > > > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2012 5:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Does anyone have good sources as to religious affiliation of Hessians in > > general as well as specific ancestors? > > > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > AmRev-Hessian Website > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Volunteer Administrator > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ############################### > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > AmRev-Hessian Website > > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Volunteer Administrator [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ############################### > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > AmRev-Hessian Website > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Volunteer Administrator [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi! I'm looking for any information on a Henry Goodhart from Hesse, who might have served as a Hessian solider during the American Revolution? He married Catherine Weil in Lancaster PA 1791. Any help to confirm or deny him having any Hessian service would be greatly appreciated! I know his brother-in-law Johannes Crede served as a Hessian solider in Rall's regiment. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Freeman Bartek On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Suzanne Pryse <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you be more specific on where the roll call is outside > Charlottesville? I'd like to go see it. > > Thanks, Suzanne > > From: "[email protected]com" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > > Hello, > Carl Simon Wrede (Charles Frady), Braunschweiger, is found in the records > taking communion in 1792 at the Hebron Lutheran Church in Culpeper County > (now Madison). He is also listed in a undated document with others of the > same church as a "communicating member". He is listed on the roll call at > the Barracks outside Charlottesville in 1779. He moved to Surry County, > NC, about 1793. There he is listed in the court records of a Methodist > church as a Trustee. > Louise > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMREV-HESSIANS] Religious affiliations > . > > > In a message dated 5/26/2012 5:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone have good sources as to religious affiliation of Hessians in > general as well as specific ancestors? > > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > AmRev-Hessian Website > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Volunteer Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ############################### > FOUNDER: John H. Merz 1924-2006 List created 1998 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > AmRev-Hessian Website > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Volunteer Administrator [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Barbara. I'll take any hints I can get! I have also noticed some clustering of descendants of Hessians - Greene Co., PA and possibly Licking Co., OH, specifically. I'll definitely check into Carroll Co., IN. Susan >It seems worth your while to check out Carroll County, Indiana, for descendents of Christopher Waggoner. My reasoning is that a group of Ansbach-Beyreuth soldiers seem to have descendents clustered in Carroll County at the second generation level. It seems apparent that at least a few were prisoners of war, and from the very early battles. Daniel and John Waggoner appeared there in 1829 at about the time some Brethren or Dunkard congregations migrated from Ohio, probably the Four Mile Creek area. Early confirmation records from a Lancaster Co. PA Reformed Church mentioned the parents as having been of the prisoners from Trenton. That church was German speaking and was a seed church for many Dunkard congregations that migrated into the Northwest Territory. It is a long and convoluted story but this is just a hint thrown your way. I'm just saying....... Barbara

It seems worth your while to check out Carroll County, Indiana, for descendents of Christopher Waggoner. My reasoning is that a group of Ansbach-Beyreuth soldiers seem to have descendents clustered in Carroll County at the second generation level. It seems apparent that at least a few were prisoners of war, and from the very early battles. Daniel and John Waggoner appeared there in 1829 at about the time some Brethren or Dunkard congregations migrated from Ohio, probably the Four Mile Creek area. Early confirmation records from a Lancaster Co. PA Reformed Church mentioned the parents as having been of the prisoners from Trenton. That church was German speaking and was a seed church for many Dunkard congregations that migrated into the Northwest Territory. It is a long and convoluted story but this is just a hint thrown your way. I'm just saying....... Barbara