----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Allen Newman" <ranbo@earthlink.net> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 11:14 AM > ============================== > Source: MDFREDER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Cenia METZ and her family > > Hello Sue, > > I could not determine her given name from viewing census pages due to poor handwriting and fuzzy images. I have since found that she married Lester E. WOLFE of Maryland, and had a son, Thomas W. WOLFE, born about 1926. Cenia died July 1977, according to the Social Security Death Index. Her last residence was High Springs, Alachua County, Florida. > > My interest in the METZ family is from the marriage of Nancy METZ to John HYDER, Jr., a family of which I am a descendant of the Hessian conscript, Johann Wilhelm HEYDER. >

Last Sunday I had the opportunity to attend the reenactment of the Battle of Monmouth (Or Freehold or Monmouth Courthouse) at Monmouth Battlefield State Park which is located outside of present day Freehold, NJ. There were about 100 re-enactors present and some 1500 people observing the event. The Crown forces included Hessians Grenadiers (von Donops) as well as British and Loyalist units. They had cavalry, artillery and infantry. The American forces included Continentals, Riflemen, Militia and artillery. These men and women put on a great show. Yes, this is Freehold and there was a Molly Pitcher in the battle. We live nearby and I regret that we did not arrive earlier so that we could spend more time talking to the re-enactors in their camps. We are truly fortunate to have people willing to do this. If you have the opportunity to attend one of these events by all means do so. Earlier this year I attended an Ocean County Historical Society meeting where one of the von Donop group demonstrated what the average Hessian soldier wore and carried as required equipment. They had to have been in good shape. Living in New Jersey, the Crossroads of the Revolution, I am close to the site of many battles and skirmishes. I first heard of the Johannes Schwalm Historical Society at a reenactment of the battle of Shoal Harbor on Raritan Bay in the town where I live. Much to my surprise I later learned that my Hessian ancestor, Andreas Schmeltz, were neighbors in the Hessian triangle in PA. Terry Troutman

Hello Hessians, just by chance I checked the mail list archives of the Schwalm mailing list and found the last posting by Bill Hughes in Oct. 2002. He just had updated his own website and invited us to check it over. I checked his guestbook and to my deep sorrow I read that he passed away sometimes in December 2002. He was also a sunscriber of our list, and he did ask me for advice how to go about starting a mail list. He was a descendant of the Hessen Kassel soldier Johannes Schwalm, on his father's side, but his mother's side settled in South Carolina. I am truly sorry to learn so late about his departure so long ago, and I should have looked earlier for him when I started missing his input. He is with his ancestors now. Truly sorry, John Merz (is there anybody interested to continue the Schwalm-L mail list?)

Hello Hessians, hello Hazel; I do agree wholeheartedly with Hazel Foster, that Hessian reunions should be announced over this list to inform other Hessian descendants of the event. We all look forward to meet our cousins and exchange our family connections. And if there is still a grave of the Hessian ancestor, perhaps collect a bit of money to order a 'Hessian Plaque' for him. And don't forget the 'Hessian Descendant Lapel Pins' from Bob Fetters, he just ordered a new batch from the manufacturer. Wishing you all a very nice "Fourth of July" celebration. Be proud of your Heritage, Yours John H. Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kach78@aol.com> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Connecting > > If you are a decendent of John Longman, Hessian soldier pow in Fredercik Md., > please don't ever have a reunion of his decendents without notifying others. > I have a 90 yr old brother living that would accompany me for any reunion for > our decendents. I appreciate this website and everyone that participates. > Thank you, Hazel Foster

Hello Hessians - here is a TRUBEY interesting Hessian story - full of information. (Daniel DRUBE, Hetrina II, Kassel Regt. von Bose, JSHA 1993) forwarded by John Merz: From: "Doug" <iceman61@localnet.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 1:31 PM > ==================================== > Source: PA-FRANKLIN-SNOWHILL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: PA-FRANKLIN-SNOWHILL-D Digest V04 #49 > > Dear Listers, > > Something I found in a web search. Is this the same Davis STONER? > > John L. Metcalf, jlmetcalf@earthlink.net, Aug. 22, 2003 - TRUBY/TRUBEY > > My great great great grandfather, Daniel Truby (later spelled Trubey), moved to Stark County, Ohio about 1834, along with his wife, Mary (Stoner) Trubey. They moved there from Franklin County, Pennsylvania, where they were both born. They had a total of 11 children, and I am descended from their 4th child, also named Daniel. Daniel and Mary moved on to Huntington County, Indiana, about 1847, and then back to Defiance County, Ohio, about 1866 where he and Mary lived with their son, John Trubey. Daniel died in Defiance and is buried in Independence Cemetery, Richland Township, Defiance County. Mary then went to live with her daughter in Richardson County, Nebraska, where she died 3 months later. In addition to Daniel, his brother Jacob Truby also moved to Stark County, Ohio, where Jacob was a Justice of the Peace, and Jacob died in 1835. Both Jacob and Daniel are mentioned in the History of Stark County, though Jacob and his son Jacob Mobley Trubey were more prominent. ! > On September 21, 1825, Daniel Truby was one of the sureties on the estate of his father-in-law, David Stoner (Franklin Co., PA, Will Book C, Page 756). Daniel signed as one of the heirs of David Stoner, and Mary "Polly" Stoner Truby marked as another heir (Franklin Co., PA, Deed Book 14, pages 197 and 327). Daniel Truby was also mentioned as an heir to his brother Jacob's estate in 1835 (Stark Co., OH, Administration Dockets Book E, pages 95 to 102). > > My original information came from "History of the Trubey Family" by B. A. Trubey, copied and expanded by Clarence O. Trubey. Barevius Augustus (B. A.) Trubey, 1860-1944, was the grandson of Daniel Truby and personally knew him. B.A. Trubey identified Daniel and Jacob (and their siblings David and Nancy) as the children of Jacob Trubey and his wife "Miss Mawk" who lived in Franklin County, Pennsylvania. This elder Jacob was identified as a former Hessian soldier. However, what records are in Franklin County only identify yet another Daniel Trubey (who died about 1806-07), and we now know that his wife was Margaret Mack, great granddaughter of Alexander Mack, Sr., founder of the Church of the Brethren. Later, Daniel Truby is listed as son of Margaret (Mack) Truby on a division of part of her father's estate, Jacob Mack -- "Deed of Sale from the Executors of Jacob Mack [viz. Samuel Royer and John benedict] to Samuel Needy," 2 April 1835 (recorded 14 January 1836), Franklin! > County, Pennsylvania, Deed Book 17:34. > > Note that the first Daniel Truby may, repeat MAY, have been a Hessian soldier named Johann Daniel Drübe, but we may never know for sure. > > My other major source, other than documents I obtained from various microfilm sources, is "Daniel Trubey of Franklin County, Pennsylvania, The First Four Generations" First Edition, compiled by Alycon Trubey Pierce, ©2000, Willow Bend Books, Westminster, Maryland, ISBN 1-58549-626-X. You may be able to order the book directly from the publisher if you want, (800) 876-6103, or http://www.WillowBendBooks.com. I don't know what the current price is, or if it is still in print. If you have a connection to these individuals, please contact me.

If you are a decendent of John Longman, Hessian soldier pow in Fredercik Md., please don't ever have a reunion of his decendents without notifying others. I have a 90 yr old brother living that would accompany me for any reunion for our decendents. I appreciate this website and everyone that participates. Thank you, Hazel Foster

One of my pleasant memories from a long time ao. Time flies - wonder what Ruth Ann Messick is doing these days? John Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:38:52 -0700 From: John Helmut Merz hessian@sympatico.ca To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [REV-HESSIANS] Back from the Saratoga Battlefield. Hello AMREV-HESSIANS, my wife and I came back last night from our trip by Amtrak from Schenectady, N.Y., late and tired, and now after having recuperated somewhat, would like to give you a short report. First let me thank Ruth Ann Messick who took so lovely care of me and my wife from the time of arrival Friday evening until we left Monday morning. She picked us up at the station and drove us to our Motel in Saratoga Springs, which we had booked for the three nights. Let me say this, Ruth Ann is something else, she must run on atomic power, the things she does, it is unbelievable, I think she must be one who does not need to sleep much. Thanks Ruth Ann, you were great! Saturday morning at Ballston Spa the Head Hunters, sorry, the Heritage Hunters put up their show, I had a table where I displayed my books and answered questions all day. It sure was evident that not too much emphasis was previously demonstrated about Hessians, my being there (again thanks to Ruth Ann) brought home the fact that the Hessians (Brunswickers, Hesse-Hanau) played quite a role in the Saratoga history. It was evident to me that American history was taught very one-sided, particularly when I heard many times the expression 'on our side'. I mean after 222 years with descendants of all sides participating, you don't quote only one side. They all took part in the historic events of the time. Towards the end of the day, and ready to go home with my voice very strained, suddenly the day brightened up with the arrival of the first real Hessian descendant, Bob Vinica with his wife Irmgard. His ancestor Andreas Wienecke had belonged to the Brunswick Regt. Prinz Ludwig, which was involved in the Battle of Bennington in August 1777. Bob and his wife just made it in time coming from New Hampshire, and they booked a room at our Motel. We had a very good time that evening, and you guessed it, we talked about Hessians. Thanks Bob and Irmgard for keeping us company. Next morning after a good breakfast we started off for the Saratoga National Battlefield Park, and watched the various re-enactment camps of the Patriots, and also of the British camps. What we did not find were any Hessian re-enactors, although we were told that some fellows of the Brunswick Regiment von Specht were expected to show up. If they did, we sure missed them. We also missed some Hessian ancestors who were looking for me, kept chasing us, but apparently could not catch up to Bob and me. We met Mr. Riedesel, from the line of General Riedesel who to commemorate the Brunswick's march route from Quebec City to Saratoga and to the Boston prison camp, followed the same trail and timed their arrival corresponding to the actual time table of the Saratoga battles. There was also Mr. von Breymann, from the line of Colonel Breymann who was killed at the Breymann Re-doubt at the Park during the final battle. Colonel Breymann was the commander of the Brunswick Grenadier Battalion v.Breymann. We missed each other as well. It's a large battlefield Park, and it was estimated that 1500 people were visiting that day. It was a long day, and we were kind of happy to be driven back to our Motel after Bob and Irmgard Vinica said good-bye to leave for home. Ruth Ann picked us up in the morning to bring us back to the Amtrak Station in Schenectady. It was quite an experience, but I felt my age! Once more my sincere thank you to Ruth Ann Messick, she was a true Ambassador of Good Will for the whole County of Saratoga. Yours truly, John Merz,

John Merz. What a joy and pleasure you have brought into my research. Many others like you have been sharing info with me and it encourages me knowing that many good, kind and loving people make up this confusing world. Blessings to you and all those who love you, and thank you. Hazel Foster, decendent of John Longman (John Langmann)

Once again questions are being asked on this list for which answers could easily be found in our mail list archives. It is so easy to click on and see the 'Search' features. The keyword archives will give you tons of information for practically any name ever mentioned. Just help yourself, John Merz Canada is celebrating 1. July - Canada Day. > Tag 1: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For your convenience, here are the mail list archives: > Please check the archives first, your answer may be there. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > Subject Lines are important to create interest into YOUR posting, > make it a good headline. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 2: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Our mail list archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > Here is the Hessian Soldier plaque http://www3.sympatico.ca/hessian/plakette.htm <- click on > Try it and you will find a treasure chest full of information. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 3: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" > Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. > HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. > You'll find information in the keyword archive 1999 "26 feb 1999" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 4: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mail List archives are your best bet to find information, try > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > Remember the Hessian Soldier plaque - http://www3.sympatico.ca/hessian/plakette.htm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 5: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe click on AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com > and write one single word unsubscribe in subject line and text field. > No other words or explanations or it won't work. But before you do, have a fast look at our HESSIAN SOLDIER plaque - > http://www.crbronzeworks.com/hessian/ <-- order here > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 6: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 6000 Hessian soldiers remained in North America after the Peace in 1783, the majority settled in the Eastern United States and Canada. > A quick check http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tag 7: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please stick to our published subject - Hessian Soldiers of the > American Revolution, not WWII or the Civil War. 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BlankI recieved information on a Caspar Dormeyer who was in the Grenadier Battalion "Breymann" with unit captain v Lohnesen. Caspar became a prisoner of war. Does anyone know this uni5t or where it served and perhaps where they surrended? thank you! Ann agatha1@flash.net

My ISP, Optimum cable added new spam filters in their e-mail. My e-mails dropped-off so the ISP suggested I send an e-mail to each list I was on to see if they were effected. Thank you for the reply.

In a message dated 6/29/2004 11:08:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed Maul <edmaul@optonline.net> writes: >Please reply to this e-mail > > > >==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== Here is your reply. Now what?

Would have been nice if you had given us the name of your 3rd gr grandfather. I have Rissinger and Reisinger in Dauphin Co. and Schuylkill Cos. PA. Possible clues : George Heinrich/Henry Risssinger m. Elizabeth Koons ; had son Abraham John Rissinger b. 1807 in Upper Paxton Twp., Dauphin Co., PA; Abraham Rissinger m. Anna Klinger b. 1815 in Klingerstown (Klingerstown was originally in Berks Co., now Dauphin Co., PA; Anna Klinger was a dau. of Johan Peter Klinger....Hessian Triangle area along with Schwalm, Ossman, Schmeltzer, etc. Peggy Lyte Tyrrell At 12:44 PM 6/29/04 -0400, John Merz wrote: >Forwarded to list - has anybody seen this name? >John Merz > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe Carr" <jc93518@alltel.net> >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:46 AM > > > > My name is Joe Carr, I am still with you. I joined the list a short time > > ago. I am trying to find any information on the names Risinger or possibly > > Reisinger. I have been told my ancestors came from Germany. I do not know >if > > they were Hessian or not, just the possibility they were. My 3rd > > ggrandfather was born in 1795 in PA. Any help out there? > > > > >==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== >HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" >Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. >HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or >Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. >You'll find information in the keyword archive 1999 "26 feb 1999"

Hi John and All, I discovered a reference to one Israel Melchinger of Dover, PA, who reportedly was a "former Hessian soldier" and wondered if anyone is searching for him. For your review: He is not in the Archive of Messages for AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List (under this spelling). http://www.gdhspa.org/HistoryOfDover.htm Israel Melchinger was one of the Hessian soldiers who settled in and around Dover after the close of the Revolution. In 1815 Melchinger became the first postmaster of Dover and held that office at the time of his death in 1834; when he was succeed by his son, Englehart Melchinger. O. J. Yost, Samuel Aughenbaugh, Oliver M. Stough, E. D. Stouch, Dr. N. C. Wallace and Dr. J. M. Gross have been the successive postmasters within recent years. Warm regards, Jane Curci

John, You have made the right decision. There comes a time when we need to take time for family and other needs. You have been very helpful to me in my research and please take care of yourself because I want you, of all people, to read my book on Conrad Grein/Konrad Krain when I finish it. Other things keep getting in my way, but it is moving to the front burner and I can, perhaps, get it done next year. Please keep in touch and on your mailing list so that I will have any change in your address. Hazel Pflueger On 6/28/04 2:25 PM, "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> wrote: > After that I will sort out and prepare myself for the transfer of my files, > and will look forward to the visit of the SAR Librarian. > I will still maintain the Canadian files until I find a good place for > them, and above all, I will keep running this list, although I won't > be able to assist much with information as I did before. > > Have a nice summer, > John Helmut Merz, > Hamilton, > Ontario.

Dear John: As a member of the National Society Sons of the American Revolution, I personally want to thank you for donating your material to this Society. NSSAR has done an excellent job in educating its members about the American Revolution. Now they will be able to better educate us on the German involvement. George Diehl

Forwarded to list - has anybody seen this name? John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Carr" <jc93518@alltel.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:46 AM > My name is Joe Carr, I am still with you. I joined the list a short time > ago. I am trying to find any information on the names Risinger or possibly > Reisinger. I have been told my ancestors came from Germany. I do not know if > they were Hessian or not, just the possibility they were. My 3rd > ggrandfather was born in 1795 in PA. Any help out there? >

Hello AmRev-Hessians: Faithfully since 1999 Mr. Fred Deckmann mails me a copy of his Deckmann Family Newsletter, telling me of the upcoming Reunion. Faithfully every year I take the time and advices the listmembers that this even is taken place, and often we get additional information from others to entice Hessian descendants to attend. Seems to be a real show, with group pictures taken and a White Elephant Sale. But despite the fact that I personally take the trouble to let everyone know of this, and that I also remind others who are planning a similar affair in honour of their Hessian ancestor, very seldom do we hear from anybody about the events. No reports back from the Deckmann's (Deckman's), all I get is this once a year notice. No reports come back from others. A clear communication gap, missed chances to promote such honourable undertakings. A question lingers in my mind, are there any Deckmann descendants reading our postings? Have the Deckman's heard about the HESSIAN PLAQUE ?, Or the Hessian descendant lapel pins? There is no mentioning of this in their newsletter. Makes me wonder - why don't we hear nothing, John Merz

Hello Ed, I suppose you wanted to let the list members know where to look for Hetrina information, I don't think you wanted anybody to reply to a message which has no contents otherwise - therefore you won't mind me advising the subscribers to IGNORE your demand for a a REPLY. John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Maul" <edmaul@optonline.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:08 AM Subject: [HESSIAN] Please reply to this e-mail > Please reply to this e-mail > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > The Source HETRINA has been discussed more often than anything > else, you find the explanations by checking our key word archive > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > You can find it by typing in "26 feb 1999" and look for HETRINA. > Or check the Threaded Archives for February 1999 - Hetrina publication. > >

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