REPEAT: Seems that this message got lost in the troubles Rootsweb has had during the last week, and particularly in the last two days. Hope that the problems are solved and Rootsweb returns to its normal effiency. John Merz, I am sure that there will be many more messages which are floating in cyber space at this moment, suddenly appear on your screen. Don't let yourself get confused. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: "ROBERT B DIRLAM" <dirlamrob@juno.com>; Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Revolutionary War Prisioners, from the Ohio Repository, 28 July 1852 > Thank you, Bob, and don't worry about copyright. It has expired > for 1852 newspaper articles :-) > John Merz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ROBERT B DIRLAM" <dirlamrob@juno.com> > To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:05 PM > Subject: Revolutionary War Prisioners, from the Ohio Repository, 28 July > 1852 > > > > John: > > > > > > I do not want to violate any copyright laws However I thought you might > > be interested in the following old newspaper clipping, for research > > purposes. > > > > The article explains what might have happened to the bodies of Hessian > > Soldiers who died in the New York Area. > > > > From the Ohio Repository 28 July 1852, page 2 > > > > The number of prisoners who died in dungeons and prison ships near New > > York during the Revolutionary War, was 11,000. They were buried in pits > > and graves, and thus remained till 1803, when they were gathered > > together, and in 1808 they were deposited in a vault erected for that > > purpose, in Brooklyn; but that has now become dilapidated; and an > > association of Brooklyn has been formed to remove the remains to Old Fort > > Greene, and erect a suitable monument over them. > > > > Taken From Ancestry.com "Ancestry Daily News" July 28, 2004 Clipping of > > the Day >Copyright © 1998-2004, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries. > > > > Bob Dirlam >

Hi John, Is this the message that didn't come through? I googled up the following: Warm regards, Jane <A HREF="http://www.google.com/help/features.html#cached"> cache</A> of <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.aol.com/library/view/news/articles/dailynews.asp">http://www.ancestry.aol.com/library/view/news/articles/dailynews.asp</A> Clipping of the Day : The number of prisoners who died in dungeons and prison ships near New York during the Revolutionary War, was 11,000. They were buried in pits and graves, and thus remained till 1803, when they were gathered together, and in 1808 they were deposited in a vault erected for that purpose, in Brooklyn; but that has now become dilapidated; and an association of Brooklyn has been formed to remove the remains to Old Fort Greene, and erect a suitable monument over them. ADN Editor's Note: From <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/prodredir.asp?sourceid=831&key=P1630">The Graveyard Shift: A Family Historian's Guide to New York City Cemeteries</A>, by Carolee Inskeep, under the entry for Wallabout Bay: Records: There is no known record of prisoners, excepting an undated list of about eight thousand soldiers who were imprisoned aboard the British ship “Jersey.” The list was found among the papers of the British War Department. Resources: Greene, Albert G. "Recollections of the Jersey Prison-Ship; Taken and Prepared for Publication from the Original Manuscript of the late Captain Thomas Dring of Providence, Rhode Island, One of the Prisoners." Ch. 9. Providence, R.I.: H. H. Brown, 1829, 57-63, (interment of the dead). Revolution/Prisoners of War Burials, Brooklyn. Iowa City Genealogical Society Newsletter, vol. 20, issue 2 (February 1993). <IMG SRC="http://a1356.g.akamai.net/f/1356/2383/4h/www.ancestry.com/landing/adnhtml/gpixel.gif" WIDTH="100" HEIGHT="1" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="49"> Subscribers with access to the Historical Newspapers Collection can <A HREF="http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6667&path=1852.7.28.2">view this entire clipping</A>. <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?sourceid=2116&targetid=3505">Subscribe</A> to the Historical Newspapers Collection at Ancestry.com.

Hi John, The message headline came through without a message. Is it my computer? Jane

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose House Museum" <rosemuseum@pecounty.on.ca> To: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: RE: "Hessian Day" at the Rose House Museum on 21. August 2004. > good morning John, well it's full steam ahead, we are busy getting prepared for the 21st and everything appears to be coming together, finally! We have received good press coverage here, but will certainly pass along this articles to them, thank you. We have had quite a few inquiries and hopefully we will have great weather for the event. Just trying to figure out where we should mount the plaque, any ideas...I believe it should be inside for sure....we will have it done after the 21st though......Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Merz [mailto:hessian@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Thu 7/29/2004 3:21 PM > To: Rose House Museum > Subject: "Hessian Day" at the Rose House Museum on 21. August 2004. > > Dear Susan Rose, > How are things going at the Rose House? > I prepared this report about our event and it has just come over > the Internet Rootsweb mailing list 'Quebec', and others. > It may be a good idea to let your newspapers have it too. > Regards, > John Merz > Hamilton, Ontario. > .................................................... > A report by Johannes Helmut Merz > commemorating the 220th anniversary of the arrival of the > first settlers in Marysburg, Prince Edward County, Quinte Ile, > Lake Ontario. > > In the year 1783 at the conclusion of the American Revolution, > King George III of England was forced to recognize the > Independence of the United States of America. > > After many years of hard fighting, the British had lost their > most prized possession, but due to the loyalty of his troops > in Canada, and the desire of the population of Canada to remain > under the protection of the British crown, as a small consolation, > Britains northerly colonies, Quebec and New Scotland (Nova Scotia) > remained true to the the King. Thanks to the strong defense by > Hessian, Brunswicker, and British troops, supported by Loyalists, > an original attempt by the American invaders in 1775 became by > early 1776 a terrible defeat for the rebels, and as a result they never > attempted to attack again. > > After the end of hostilities in 1783 the majority of British troops and > all the German troops were shipped home, either from New York > harbour, or from Halifax and Quebec. August 1783 saw all the > Brunswicker, Kasseler and Hessen-Hanau troops leave for home. > > However, not all German soldiers did leave with their Regiments, over > 2400 Brunswicker and Hanauer soldiers asked for their discharge papers, > and most of them were granted. But quite a number did not receive their > honourable discharge, because their enlistment time was not over yet, > their German princes needed them for other actions in some other part > of the world, and these poor souls had no other choice as to resort > to desertion, and flew the coop just before the ships left for good. > Many of them had already very good contacts with the local population, > some even were married already to French-Canadian women. > > At that time the present Province of Ontario did not exist at all, it still > was a part of the "Old Province of Quebec", which extented right down > to Detroit and beyond. With the exception of a few small French forts > along the Waterways, there were no settlements between Montreal and > Detroit. Only at the Canadian side of the Detroit River was an older > settlement of French-Canadians, and this side of the Niagara River > were settlements started by members of the Butler's Rangers, who had > defended these posts during the war. > > The Governor of Canada at the time, Frederick Haldimand, was very > unhappy about the situation of undefended borders, and ordered his > land surveyors to immediately survey the whole area between > Montreal and Detroit along the St. Lawrence River and the Great Lakes. > His plan was to settle the tens of thousands of discharged British, > German and Loyalist soldiers, unit by unit, still under the leadership of > their officers, along these waterways, to create a first line of defence in > case of an attack by invaders. Governor Haldimand did not believe that > the truce between the U.S.A. and Britain would hold, and he prepared > for such a possibilitiy. > > The first plan of settlement was the creation of townships along > the St. Lawrence river from the Ottawa river to Kingston, which was > at that time still named Cataraqui. There were eight townships > starting at the mouth of the Ottawa river along the St.Lawence river, > which would be settled by the different Loyalist Corps, and then five > townships at the end of Lake Ontario at Kingston and the Bay of Quinte. > The last one of these, the Fifth Township, Marysburgh, was the very > last one of the long line from Montreal, and is the real subject of our > attention. > > During spring of 1784 a group of Brunswick and Hesse-Hanau soldiers > assembled at Lachine near Montreal under the leadership of the former > Lieutenant Baron Gottlieb Christian von Reitzenstein, of the Brunswick > Regiment Prinz Friedrich, and waited for transportation to their > designated Fifth Township at the Bay of Quinte. Finally in June the > Flatboats arrived, specially designed boats, called Batteau, to tackle > the long trip upwards the St. Lawrence river through the rapids and fast > flowing waters. > > With all their belongings, 29 men, 7 women, and 8 children, they boarded > those Batteaus, and it took them ten days to reach Cataraqui, where they > had to wait because the land was not surveyed completely, and finally on > 4 Oct. 1784 according to an existing Muster Roll, they were recorded as > having finally arrived in the Fifth Township. That late in Fall this group > finally could start building some huts to shelter them from the harshness > of the next winter, and it seemed that promised supplies were very slow > in coming. Fact was, they were at the very last tail end of the supply > routes, and the documentation in the National Archives attests to the > enormous difficulties, these first Hessian and Brunswick soldiers had to > overcome. Their leader Baron von Reitzenstein constantly pressured > local and other officials up to the Governor for help and action. > > It is truly surprising that these men and women did stick it out and with > time became solid settlers and respected citizens of a new land. > > One of their first undertakings was to build a little Lutheran church > from beams and lumber floated over from the government saw mills > at Cataraqui. In later years the beams from that first church were used > by the Hessian soldier Henry Rose to build his house in the Fifth > Township, and this house still exists today, known as the > Rose House Museum, and in front of the house a historical plaque > by the Archaelogical and Historical Sites Board of Ontario honours > the presence of this small group of disbanded German mercenaries > under Baron von Reitzenstein. "This was one of the earliest German- > speaking groups to settle in Ontario." > > Descendants of these early German settlers will celebrate the 220th > anniverasry of this event with a HESSIAN DAY" on Saturday, > 21 August 2004 at the Rose House Museum. Music, German food, > displays, art exhibit, and a presentation of a bronze "Hessian Soldier" > plaque will highlight the day. > > How do you find the Rose House Museum ? > > From Toronto go east on 401 in direction Belleville - Kingston, on exit > 522 use the Loyalist Parkway (highway 33) to Bloomfield and Picton. > In Picton through the town you turn right to the Marysburgh Township > and Waupoos Island. The Rose Museum is located on County Road 8. > All together it is a two-hour drive to get there from Toronto. > > The activities start at 11 a.m, and will go all afternoon with excursion > to the local winery and apple cider tasting. There is plenty of free > parking. And meet the descendants of those first German soldier settlers > in Ontario. I will be there too. > > With my best regards > Johannes (John) Helmut Merz, > researcher of Hessian soldiers of the American Revolution. > hessian@sympatico.ca > > > > >

John would your database contain anything about such an Jacob Rauschenberger ? Thank you in advance Ernst Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: "Kobuss, Matthias" <M.Kobuss@maquet.de> > Datum: 26. Juli 2004 15:57:50 MESZ > An: Liste Ost-West-Preußen <ow-preussen-l@genealogy.net> > Betreff: [OWP] An die Militärexperten - Bitte um Weiterleitung > Antwort an: OW-Preussen-L <ow-preussen-l@genealogy.net> > > Hallo, > > ich habe folgende Anfrage aus Amerika bekommen. Es hat nichts mit > Ost-Westpreußen zu tun, da ich aber weiß, daß es Militärexperten in > der Liste gibt, kann ihm vielleicht doch jemand helfen. > Bill schrieb: > "I am looking for some help (ideas) in locating Hessian Soldier > records for my gggggg grandfather Jacob Rauschenberger. He was > discarded from service due to a leg wound I am guessing in > approximately 1714. Would they have kept records that far back?" > > Ich habe Bill nach weiteren Informationen über Jacob gebeten. Er hat > keine weiteren. > Bitte mögliche Hilfe nicht an mich oder an die Liste, sondern direkt > zu Bill Roushey: wroushey(at)peoplepc.com [statt dem (at) bitte ein @ > einfügen, ohne Klammern]. Ihr dürft Euch aber gerne auf mich berufen, > damit er weiß, wie der Kontakt zustande kam. ;-) > > Vielleicht ist jemand so gut, diese Mail auch an eine Hessen-Liste und > an die Militär-Liste weiterzuleiten (bin in beiden Listen nicht > angemeldet, möchte ich auch nicht, da ich schon in zehn anderen Listen > mitlese). > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Matthias Kobuß > _______________________________________________ > OW-Preussen-L mailing list > OW-Preussen-L@genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/ow-preussen-l >

Hi Ernst, I have a Johann in a document . myrna On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Ernst Hoffmann wrote: > John would your database contain anything about such an Jacob > Rauschenberger ? > Thank you in advance > > Ernst > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > >> Von: "Kobuss, Matthias" <M.Kobuss@maquet.de> >> Datum: 26. Juli 2004 15:57:50 MESZ >> An: Liste Ost-West-Preußen <ow-preussen-l@genealogy.net> >> Betreff: [OWP] An die Militärexperten - Bitte um Weiterleitung >> Antwort an: OW-Preussen-L <ow-preussen-l@genealogy.net> >> >> Hallo, >> >> ich habe folgende Anfrage aus Amerika bekommen. Es hat nichts mit >> Ost-Westpreußen zu tun, da ich aber weiß, daß es Militärexperten in >> der Liste gibt, kann ihm vielleicht doch jemand helfen. >> Bill schrieb: >> "I am looking for some help (ideas) in locating Hessian Soldier >> records for my gggggg grandfather Jacob Rauschenberger. He was >> discarded from service due to a leg wound I am guessing in >> approximately 1714. Would they have kept records that far back?" >> >> Ich habe Bill nach weiteren Informationen über Jacob gebeten. Er hat >> keine weiteren. >> Bitte mögliche Hilfe nicht an mich oder an die Liste, sondern direkt >> zu Bill Roushey: wroushey(at)peoplepc.com [statt dem (at) bitte ein @ >> einfügen, ohne Klammern]. Ihr dürft Euch aber gerne auf mich berufen, >> damit er weiß, wie der Kontakt zustande kam. ;-) >> >> Vielleicht ist jemand so gut, diese Mail auch an eine Hessen-Liste >> und an die Militär-Liste weiterzuleiten (bin in beiden Listen nicht >> angemeldet, möchte ich auch nicht, da ich schon in zehn anderen >> Listen mitlese). >> >> Mit freundlichen Grüßen >> >> Matthias Kobuß >> _______________________________________________ >> OW-Preussen-L mailing list >> OW-Preussen-L@genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/ow-preussen-l >> > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe click on AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com > and write one single word unsubscribe in subject line and text field. > No other words or explanations or it won't work. But before you do, > have a fast look at our HESSIAN SOLDIER plaque - > http://www.crbronzeworks.com/hessian/ >

Hello Bill, let me thank you for clearing this up for us. 1714/15 is a different ball of wax, alright, but here is another surprise - the two places you mentioned - WIEDERMUS and MARIENBORN belong to todays 63549 Ronneburg, the place I have been having my HESSENLAND subscriber meeting a few years back. Gee, what a small world, you will have to look into http://www.google.de and look for the Ronneburg. Friend of mine, Mr. Erdt, runs the Geschichtsvereein (Historical Society) you find his webpage easy. I wish you good luck, and with your luck I am sure you find your missing links. Cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roushey, Bill" <WRoushey@CPIGROUPS.COM> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:03 PM Dear John, Yes you have corresponded with me previously. 1-2 years ago I was convinced that my ancestor Peter Rauschenberger (born 1 Sep 1787) was the son of a Hessian soldier of the American Revolutionary war period. With your help we actually ruled out that possibility. I learned that Peter's father was in fact Peter Frederick Rauschenberger (born in PA in 1738). They were German Moravians living in Hope, Warren County, NJ. Our name was changed from Rauschenberger to Roushey some time around 1800 because it was too German. My latest inquiry is still the same family but several generations previous. Peter Benignus R. (b 1787), son of Peter Frederick R. (b 1738), son of Johann Friedrich R. (b 1715 in Wiedermus, Marienborn, Hessen?), son of Jacob Rauschenberger (b about 1685?) a Hessian soldier discharged from service as a result of a leg wound. Jacob was a Separatist at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth (1715). I am looking for early Hessen Soldier records for Jacob pre 1715. Do such records exist? Bill Roushey ggggggg grandson of Jacob Rauschenberger (Hessian Soldier Circa 1715) ggggg grandson of Johann Christoph Reiss (Hessian Solder Am Revolutionary War) -----Original Message----- From: John Merz [mailto:hessian@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: Fwd: [OWP] An die Militärexperten - Johann RAUSCHENBERG Dear Ernst, I have a feeling that this Bill Roushey was in contact with me before, because my address book gave me both his addresses when I started typing his name. But breats me, I can't find any correspondence. Anyway, there is a Johann RAUSCHENBERG of the Brunswick troops, who deserted in Canada in 1783, he came from 31249 Hohenhameln, <SNIP>

Dear Ernst, I have a feeling that this Bill Roushey was in contact with me before, because my address book gave me both his addresses when I started typing his name. But breats me, I can't find any correspondence. Anyway, there is a Johann RAUSCHENBERG of the Brunswick troops, who deserted in Canada in 1783, he came from 31249 Hohenhameln, State of Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony), and according to a Quebec genealogist Ms. Dominique Ritchot, she found a marriage of a "Rochenbard-Montagne, Joachim, to Catherine HOULE on 22 April 1793 in Saint-Charles-sur-Richelieu in Quebec, Canada. The date given by Bill of 1714 is most certainly wrong, maybe not, but then it would be a completely different ball of wax. This is all I can help you with, I'll put this on both the AMREV- and the QUEBEC-Hessians list, just for the record. Thanks for passing this on to me and the list, John Merz list administrator. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernst Hoffmann" <Ernst-Axel.Hoffmann@t-online.de> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Fwd: [OWP] An die Militärexperten - Bitte um Weiterleitung > John would your database contain anything about such an Jacob > Rauschenberger ? > Thank you in advance > > Ernst > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > > > Von: "Kobuss, Matthias" <M.Kobuss@maquet.de> > > Datum: 26. Juli 2004 15:57:50 MESZ > > Hallo, > > > > ich habe folgende Anfrage aus Amerika bekommen. Es hat nichts mit > > Ost-Westpreußen zu tun, da ich aber weiß, daß es Militärexperten in > > der Liste gibt, kann ihm vielleicht doch jemand helfen. > > Bill schrieb: > > "I am looking for some help (ideas) in locating Hessian Soldier > > records for my gggggg grandfather Jacob Rauschenberger. He was > > discarded from service due to a leg wound I am guessing in > > approximately 1714. Would they have kept records that far back?" > > > > Bitte mögliche Hilfe nicht an mich oder an die Liste, sondern direkt > > zu Bill Roushey: wroushey(at)peoplepc.com [statt dem (at) bitte ein @ > > einfügen, ohne Klammern]. Ihr dürft Euch aber gerne auf mich berufen, > > damit er weiß, wie der Kontakt zustande kam. ;-) SOLDIER plaque - > http://www.crbronzeworks.com/hessian/ > >

This message came to me courtesy of the Rootsweb PML service. I would like to mention that this diary by the son of a Hessian soldier Conrad ENGELBRECHT, a private of the Bayreuth Regt., has been a source mentioned by Mrs. Nancy Rice Kiddoo in her article "Of Revolutionary Memory"; German mercenaries who immigrated to Westerb Maryland, published in "Der Reggeboge", Journal of the Pennsylvania German Society, Vol. 23/1989/2. This Journal contains short biographies of 182 German auxiliary soldiers, wrongfully called mercenaries, who settled in Frederick Co., Maryland. John Merz, list administrator. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. ("Al") Blackburn" <al@blackburn.org> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:18 PM > ============================== > Source: SPRINKLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Old Sprenkle Tragedies > > > Good Morning Listmates, > > Earlier this month, Nancy and Margaret each posted two messages under the > subject heading "Old Sprenkle Tragedies." All four of those messages > discussed the murder of Mary Ann Sprenkle Gower on the night of July 4, > 1834. > > I first became aware of Mary Ann's murder in the early 1980s while reading > "The Diary of Jacob Englebrecht." Jacob's comments on that crime were > confined to three rather brief entries. But before presenting Jacob's > comments on the murder, I will present a few remarks of my own about Jacob > and his diary. > > Jacob Englebrecht (the son of a Hessian) was born in Frederick, Maryland in > 1797. He apparently remained a resident of that town until his death in > 1878. > During most of his life Jacob plied the tailor's trade, but eventually > became a grocer. And after the Civil War he served a term as mayor of > Frederick. However, his most significant contribution arises from the fact > that he was a faithful and prolific diarist throughout the last sixty years > of his life. > > The version of the diary with which I worked was a three-volume > transcription compiled by William R. Quynn, and publishsed by the Historical > Society of Frecerick County, Inc., in 1976. I believe that an earlier > publication consisted simply of reproductions of Jacob's hand written > entries, many of which were made on odd scraps of paper. And a very useful > index has been added to a later edition. > <SNIP>

Good Morning Julie, and good Morning Gang; You got it right - became prisoner at Yorktown in Oct. 1781, kept on pisoner roll until May 1783 - 11- 5/1783 to be released from prisoner status in May 1783, not found anymore, reported as deserted 12 - 5/1783 Rest marched to New York to join their homewards-bound units. Those were listed as (returned to units) 5 - 5/1783. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie-Clark To: John Merz Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:53 AM I still am confused on something maybe you can clarify. Is 5/1783 listed in the monthly report for Johannes Fernau and many others the last date they mustered present or is it the date that they discovered he was not around and so he could have been missing since whenever they last did roll call? thanks for your help sincerely julie

Thanks Howard. That's another lead I can follow as I try to locate the American origins of my Johannes Weiss who settled in Highland Co., VA. John White Seattle, WA -----Original Message----- From: hhorne04@comcast.net [mailto:hhorne04@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 7:52 PM To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Hessian Soldier database & Johannes Weiss Weiss is a fairly common name in Lancaster and York counties, PA. Howard F. Horne, Ph.D. -------------- Original message -------------- > My great grand mother was born a Way. The family goes back to York > County, > Pennsylvania. One membe of the family had their name spelled as Weys in the > 1790 Census. Weys could be Weiss. Do you have any of your Weiss family from > York? > > Bob Zins, Newport News, VA > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Please stick to our published subject - Hessian Soldiers of the > American Revolution, not WWII or the Civil War. No other Immigrants. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > One more tip - do not use signature lines (with names) when posting. > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== Please stick to our published subject - Hessian Soldiers of the American Revolution, not WWII or the Civil War. No other Immigrants. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians One more tip - do not use signature lines (with names) when posting.

Dear Readers; It is obvious that our Hessian Day celebration on 21. August 2004 is attracting quite a bit of attention, and promises to be an interesting day for all of us. I am looking forward of meeting many Hessian descendants coming from all over the Country - a well deserved tribute to our Rose House Museum. I am very happy to announce that I just received a letter from the German General Consul in Toronto, dated Toronto, July 22, 2004. "Dear Mr. Merz, On the occasion of the 'Hessian Day' in Picton on August 21, 2004, commemorating the first German settlement in Ontario by Hessian soldiers in 1784, I send you the warm greetings of the German Consulate in Toronto. I wish you and all participants in the festivities a wonderful day celebrating the important contributions of German settlers to the growth and success of Ontario and Canada. With best regards, Dr. Klaus Rupprecht Consul General of the Federal Republic of Germany mail@germanconsulatetoronto.ca

Hello Howard, that's good to know! It means I can donate my own set of Hetrina to a Canadian Institution along with my Canadian Hessian Files. Regards, John Merz Hamilton, Ontario. ----- Original Message ----- From: <hhorne04@comcast.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Hessian Soldier database & Johannes Weiss > Hi- > Bruce Burgoyne donated a complete set of Hetrina volumes to the SAR Library. They will be available to the public for their use in the near future. > Howard F. Horne, Ph.D. > President General NSSAR 1999-2000 >

Hello folks; Here in Southern Ontario we have a 'gorgeous sunny morning'. I got up early because my wife and I are getting ready to go and celebrate an old friend's Golden Wedding Anniversary". I won't be touching this computer again before may be late tonite. Please no personal attacks on me or anyone else, who sins will be taken care of in due time. All the best, John Merz

To ALL subscribers - knowing how fast your delete finger works, getting rid of 'unread' messages, there are two steps you can take to recover such 'lost' messages - 1.) look in your 'deleted' bin, 2,) check the archives, all messages are in there http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS I did tell you this just yesterday, but since there are two postings asking ' Bob, eh, what did you say?' What the heck is Bob thinking? Everybody has 'Alzheimers?' Think before you click (or delete) John Merz (soon to be retired (tired) list administartor)

Hi- Bruce Burgoyne donated a complete set of Hetrina volumes to the SAR Library. They will be available to the public for their use in the near future. Howard F. Horne, Ph.D. President General NSSAR 1999-2000 -------------- Original message -------------- > Any further developments on suggested Hessian Soldier database? I think it's a > great idea and would be willing to help after Aug 1st retirement. > > I'm recently back from a wonderful vacation to WV/VA/OH. I enjoyed a very > productive and interesting visit with Robert Fetters in Chillicothe, OH. Thanks > much, Bob, for your help and access to the Hetrina Volumes. > > On the trail of Hessian ancestor, Johannes Weiss. of Fort Seybert, Pendleton > Co., WV, and Straight Creek area of Blue Grass, VA, near Monterey,I hit most of > the libraries and historical societies of that area, but missed the Franklin, > WV, ones, not realizing the span of Pendleton Co. back in 1700's. New info at > the excellent Historical Society library in Warm Springs, VA, from Pendleton > County Deeds book. Many productive leads and now I must go back and spend a > month or two for follow up. Also, a short visit with 5th cousin and fellow White > genealogist, Pam Pritt, in Marlinton, WV. > > John White > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Merz [mailto:hessian@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:36 AM > To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: Hessian Soldier Mengle > > > Database for the entire Hessian soldier list? > > Wouldn't that be lovely :) > Too many principalities involved, too many Regiments, too many locations, too > many battlefields, too many prison camps, too many soldiers with too many name > variations - who wants to give it a try? John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Mackey" > To: "John Merz" > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:40 AM > Subject: Re: Hessian Soldier Mengle > > > > Mr.: Merz: > > > > Thank you very much for your prompt reply. The family name is spelled > MENGLE > > although it has been also spelled MENGEL. We had been told as children > that > > our ancestor had been taken prisoner at the battle of Trenton. Your > research > > indicates that this must be in error. Is there a database available on > line > > to search for the name in the entire Hessian soldier list? > > > > Thanks again > > > > Renda Mengle Mackey > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Merz" > > To: "Keith Mackey" ; > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:40 PM > > Subject: Re: Hessian Soldier Mengle > > > > > Hello Renda; > > > > > > The names Mengel or Menckel. or even Mengele and Mengle cannot be > > > found on the Trenton prisoner list, although there were a > > > MENNECKING, Hermann and a MENSCKER, Henrich. Henrich was later > > > reported as having died (Hetrina III). Hermann of the Lossberg > > > Regiment was wounded at time of capture (Hetrina II) > > > SNIP> > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > The Source HETRINA has been discussed more often than anything else, you find > the explanations by checking our key word archive > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > You can find it by typing in "26 feb 1999" and look for HETRINA. > Or check the Threaded Archives for February 1999 - Hetrina publication. > > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" > Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. > HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or > Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. > You'll find information in the keyword archive 1999 "26 feb 1999" >

Weiss is a fairly common name in Lancaster and York counties, PA. Howard F. Horne, Ph.D. -------------- Original message -------------- > My great grand mother was born a Way. The family goes back to York County, > Pennsylvania. One membe of the family had their name spelled as Weys in the > 1790 Census. Weys could be Weiss. Do you have any of your Weiss family from > York? > > Bob Zins, Newport News, VA > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Please stick to our published subject - Hessian Soldiers of the > American Revolution, not WWII or the Civil War. No other Immigrants. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > One more tip - do not use signature lines (with names) when posting. >

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Hello John and List. I hadn't been fishing for new additions on the "Historic Pittsburgh" site in awhile. -Schoepf, Dr.Johann David -Scheire, ????? -Kiel, George (Hesse-Darmstadt) All noted as being Hessian soldiers. Regards, Ron Ferry