The first time we heard from Betty was in 1999, when she posted her question to our list. She definitely has made progress in the meantime, and I do feel that our subscribers have been of help as well. Nice to hear from you, Betty, and we wish you further success and much fun visiting 'our' Hessenland' :-) Yours truly John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bdhery@aol.com> To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:11 PM > ============================== > Source: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Heinrich Degenhardt > > I have researched my famly for many years, and just recently returned from > four weeks in Germany and surrounding countries. Since 1995, I knew where I > needed to obtain information, but due to things between the LDS (Morman Church) > and the German Archives, We cannot obtain them except one record at a time at a > cost of almost $100.00. They refuse to let the LDS copy their records due to > to their baptising them into the LDS faith. > > The only way to obtain the information is have someone do it for you. It is > a shame that they could not be made avaliable to us. > > The Evangelical state Archives in Hessen is the only way to find the old > church records. I wished for years read everything that I could and now I have > what I need and want. I went to Germany and got it. > > The state Church Archives, is hard t find. I went in circles for 30 minutes > and could not find it, finally got a map from a service station and found dead > end streets and some not wide enough but for one car and they do park cars on > the sidewalk also. Many streets are still cobblestone. > > I will contact Rootsweb, and write a story about my research and I think they > will put it in the Newsletter that arrives every week. I love the > newsletter, because it tells of other people's finds and can help us do our own research > at times. I have read it for eight years. > > We all want to research our families both unknown and the famous. The famous > people have the money to have someone do their research and the poor people > sit and wish. > > Well after my Husbands death last year I could not get away, to do my > research. In May of this year I made arrangements to fly to Hessen, Frankfurt, > Germany and drive to Kassel and found family and had a wonderful family reunion, > and found records back to 1654. Things that I had wished for for the past 14 > years, and knew that they had to be there. > > My grgr grandfather was a Hessian Soldier and I found him in the book > Hetrina, there are two volums and are in alphibical order and then miscellaneous > misses at the end of each. Many people who have family that arrived in USA in > 1775 to 1790 could be Hessians who deserted from the troups. England recrited > the King of Germany to conscript these young men and send them to help fight for > the rights of England. If you know history, you will have already known this. > > > I loved the small villages so much and the look of Germany that I will be > returning there in August, September and part of October of 2005. > > I am a 73 year widow, and have done research for many years. I am not a > professional, but am well versed on Genealogy, lectured and taught it, and started > a group that is now a genealogical society. If you do not belong to a > society, please do. you can learn so much from others and enhance your own research. > > I have known since 1990 who my family was in Germany and basically where they > originated from. I now have records that will take me a long time to get > into my computer, and family that will eventually come to the United States to > Visit, and see what we look like and return home to their beautiful country. > > Betty

Oops! should have been http://www.abebooks.com -- Bob Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Major Baurmeister of the Hessian Forces. Hello Hessians; Many times during the existence of this mail list, which is quite a few years, the Journal of Major Baurmeister, translated by Bernhard A. Uhlendorf, has been mentioned as an important source of information. I myself have quoted from it numerous times, and truly, I have always considered it one of the best books telling the Hessian story during the American Revolution. This is why I am a bit surprised to see this book offered on eBay with only two days to go, and only one bid on it so far. I did suspect that not very many of you subscribers (330) are really interested in books, and not willing to pay a fair price for such a gem, and this is one of the reasons why I am so reluctant to put my own good books for sale on eBay, because so many times there is no interest for books on the American Revolution. Just this evening the time had run out on a small book which I had listed on Pensacola, and I had to relist it, again costing me a new listing fee. I am not complaining, just realistically assessing the situation. Cheers, John Merz

.John -- You have too much confidence in eBay. While I agree that Uhlendorf's translation of Baurmeister's letters is a "must" for anyone whose library includes "Hessian" materials, I don't find eBay a very good source for books. The used book dealers all are reachable via http://www.abeboks.com, http://www.bookfinder.com and a number of other, similar websites. There are two copies available on eBay, one ex-library copy in Virginia which started at $17.76 (+ $3.95 P&H) (as I write this, it has been bid up to $18.50) and your copy at $24.99 (+ $8.00 P&H). This morning under "Baurmeister" there were eight copies available via Abebooks ranging from $10.00 (+ $3.50 P&H) to $45.00. I just checked and there are now seven copies available from $15.42 (+ $10.00 P&H) to $45 so your email probably prompted a lister ot purchase a copy. On abebooks under "Uhlendorf" I found another lot starting from $15.00 (+ #3.50) [near fine with a very good dustjacket]. All together, there are easily a dozen copies being offered for sale. Good health my friend, Bob Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Major Baurmeister of the Hessian Forces. Hello Hessians; Many times during the existence of this mail list, which is quite a few years, the Journal of Major Baurmeister, translated by Bernhard A. Uhlendorf, has been mentioned as an important source of information. I myself have quoted from it numerous times, and truly, I have always considered it one of the best books telling the Hessian story during the American Revolution. This is why I am a bit surprised to see this book offered on eBay with only two days to go, and only one bid on it so far. I did suspect that not very many of you subscribers (330) are really interested in books, and not willing to pay a fair price for such a gem, and this is one of the reasons why I am so reluctant to put my own good books for sale on eBay, because so many times there is no interest for books on the American Revolution. Just this evening the time had run out on a small book which I had listed on Pensacola, and I had to relist it, again costing me a new listing fee. I am not complaining, just realistically assessing the situation. Cheers, John Merz ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. You'll find information in the keyword archive 1999 "26 feb 1999"

Hello Hessians; Many times during the existence of this mail list, which is quite a few years, the Journal of Major Baurmeister, translated by Bernhard A. Uhlendorf, has been mentioned as an important source of information. I myself have quoted from it numerous times, and truly, I have always considered it one of the best books telling the Hessian story during the American Revolution. This is why I am a bit surprised to see this book offered on eBay with only two days to go, and only one bid on it so far. I did suspect that not very many of you subscribers (330) are really interested in books, and not willing to pay a fair price for such a gem, and this is one of the reasons why I am so reluctant to put my own good books for sale on eBay, because so many times there is no interest for books on the American Revolution. Just this evening the time had run out on a small book which I had listed on Pensacola, and I had to relist it, again costing me a new listing fee. I am not complaining, just realistically assessing the situation. Cheers, John Merz

Hello folks, UEL, Upper-Canadians, Loyalists and Hessians; Isn't it a beautiful day today, this first day of Autumn - sunshine all over, Even on my computer screen - just by sheer co-incidence I found this news item concerning me - and my Hessian research material: http://www.quinte-kin.com/news.htm and to top it off, at the bottom of this news item I found this http://www.germancanadian.com/newsite/pressreleasedetail.cfm?id=184 This is something for the folks interested in Prince Edward County history. Thank you, Ian Reilly, UE, great work on your part. Greetings John Helmut Merz retired in Hamilton on sunny Lake Ontario.

Sorry to say that I don't have this name in my files, I did check the Trenton Prisoner list published by the Johannes Schwalm Historical Association in the 1985 Journal, and he is not listed there. I am putting this on the Hessian list, perhaps someone else finds him, cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: Purdee2@aol.com To: hessian@sympatico.ca Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: Hessian POWs Dear Mr. Merz: After reading through several lists I can see that you are an authority on Hessians who remained in America and I wonder if you could spare a few moments of time to share your knowledge. My ancestor, William Grieff (Graeff) is mentioned in the Schuylkill County (PA) Blue Book as having been a Hessian taken prisoner at the Battle of Trenton and having been interned in Reading, PA. Do you know how I might verify that information or expand it? Many thanks in advance, Chris Leon

In a message dated 9/20/2004 11:32:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hessian@sympatico.ca writes: > The Consul General also provided us with the German Flag which was flying > from the Rose House roof, and also the many small paper flags, which were > proudly waved by so many young visitors at the Rose House that day. > > How wonderful John to have you work so honored in your adopted country............. We on the list love you also for all the hours you have put into the research that helped us all............ Jean Sharbaugh

Hello folks! My mail man brought me the latest issue of this 'newsletter', published by Max Bork, max.bork@sympatico.ca and serving Eastern Ontario and West Quebec. It is a 20 page issue. There was an article printed pg.14, and I will bring you part of it for your information. There were also some pictures, including one of me and one with George McCallum and Rolf Piro. "220 Years of Hessian Settlement Celebrated" Article by Theresa Durning. Photos by Therese Durningand Rolf Piro. Two hundred and twenty years ago, the Hessians settled in North Marysburgh. On Saturday, August 21, their descendants flocked to the Rose House Museum to celebrate, share family stories and enjoy great food, music and story telling. Rose House is located in North Marysburgh (near Picton) and is on the property of the original settlement home of Peter Rose, a Quaker and his family. (Note: Peter Rose was originally a Hessian soldier with the Brunswick troops, but came independent from the Baron von Reitzenstein group) The Rose family settled in an area where disbanded German troops were homesteading. This group of German soldiers fought for His Majesty in the American Revolution. Many of the families that live in the area today are direct descendants of those early Loyalist refugees. An Ontario Heritage Plaque in front of the Rose House states: "Following the American Revolution, Marysburgh Township was established for the settlement of Loyalists and discharged soldiers of regular regiments. Surveyed in 1784 by the Honourable John Collins, Deputy Surveyor General, the township was named in honour of Princesss Mary, a daughter of King George III. Among its earliest settlers was a small group of disbanded German mercenaries under Baron von Reitzenstein. By October, 1784, this party, numbering about 40 persons, had settled in this vicinity and begun to clear and cultivate the land. Shorthly after, they erected a log chapel just west of here, and were ministered by Lutheran missionaries. This was one of the earliest German speaking roups to settle in Ontario." Rose House Museum Curator and family historian, Susan Rose, decided to team up with author/historian Johannes Merz for a celebration of the German history of North Marysburgh. John Helmut Merz presented a plaque commemorating the 220 years of German Settlement to Susan Rose. In his address to the group, Merz indicated that he was retiring from many years as a writer/researcher and that much of his collected and written works woud be donated to the Marilyn Adams Centre in Ameliasburg. Other special guests on hand were Elizabeth Hunter, Director of the County Museums; Councillor Monica Alyea, who brought greetings on behalf of the Mayor's office; Ian Reilly, Director of the Marilyn Adams Centre and representative of the Prince Edward Historical Society. Approximately 300 people exchanged family histories, genealogical information and caught up with family and friends. ====== So far the article - to mention is also that the Consul General of the Federal Republic of Germany, Dr. Klaus Rupprecht, sent greetings: "On the occasion of the 'Hessian Day' in Picton on August 21, 2004, commemomorating the first German settlement in Ontario by Hessian soldiers in 1784, I send you the warm greetings of the German Consulate in Toronto. I wish you and all participants in the festivities a wonderfulu day celebrating the important contributions of German settlers to the growth and success of Ontario and Canada." -- The Consul General also provided us with the German Flag which was flying from the Rose House roof, and also the many small paper flags, which were proudly waved by so many young visitors at the Rose House that day. Thanks again to everyone, it sure was a day to remember. Cheers, John Helmut Merz. Hamilton, Ontario.

Does anyone have access to the Hessian word list dates December 1, 1780. I would like to know if any BAETZ, BETZ and or BETHTEL names appear on the list. Any information about these names would be greatly appreciated. If no one has this list does anyone know where I might locate it. Also, does anyone know if the plan that was offered to the Hessians in Virginia was also offered to the Hessians in Reading and Lancaster? Bob McCabe Chicago, IL

Dear Cynthia; Thank you for your kind words, I am glad I was able to help, I sure will enjoy my retirement, and save the rest of my eye sight. Cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Elschide" <jmtce@hotmail.com> To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 PM > Thank you John for all your help. I have found that my Peter Cavis did live > in Gloucester County NJ During the years between the Rev War and when he was > married and living there in 1801. > You have been a great help to a great many people and we are all grateful. > Enjoy your retirement you have earned it. > Cindy Elschide >

While the President of the Seventh Town Historical Society, Mr. Ian E. Reilly, U.E., picked up my Hessian Research material, he left me a copy of the last issue of his Society's publication - QUINTE KIN - The Voice of the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre - Vol.5, Number 3, September 2004: On last page there was a picture of me and him, taken 21. Aug.2004 at the Rose House Museum, Waupoos, during the Hessian Day celebrations, when I handed to him a file of my research as a symbolic first gesture. It also showed a picture of the Hessian Plaque which I did present to the Rose House Museum that day. But inside the publication, on page 7, there was an interesting article, and it shows how one thing leads to another, and I am really proud to have been a part of this story. Headed by "Hessian Descendants gather", and showing a picture of Marjorie "Dainard" MacArthur, of Grand Forks, British Columbia; Dr. Paul D. Cole of Kingston, Ontario, and Jean Dagenais of Quinte West, Ontario, proposing a Toast to the memory of Jacob and Marie Dehnert, their forebearers. The picture shows them lifting their wineglasses. Johann Jacob Dehnert was born in Obergebra, Saxony, October 12, 1755. He arrived in what was to become Canada as a Hessian Soldier, in 1784, (actually he came in 1776) one of over 3000 Hessians who came after the American Revolutionary War. Fifth Town (Marysburgh) at South Bay is where he settled, and around 1796 married Marie Louise Tesson-D'Honore at St. Philippe, Laprairie, Quebec. They had several children, at least 5 of which are buried on the shore of the South Bay property along with Jacob and Marie. South Bay, County of Prince Edward, Canada, August 28, 2004, saw about 40 Dehnert descendants, there are over 20 spellings of the name including Dainard, arrive at the grave site of Jacob and family. Organized by Marjorie Kay "Dainard" McArthur of Grand Folks, British Columbia, there were other Dainards from B.C., Seattle USA, Windsor, Toronto, Lindsay, Kingston, Campbellford, Moira, Quinte West, The County and other places. Their purpose, to remember, and honour an early County settler, Johann Jacob DEHNERT, from whom they all have descended." -- After reading this article, I looked at my guestbook of the 'Hessian Day" on 21. August 2004 at the Rose House, where we celebrated the 220th anniversary of the landing of the "Baron von Reitzenstein" group of Hessian settlers, and here they were, the descendants of Jacob Dehnert, they all came to our big Day, and I remember having signed the 'Hessian' books they bought, signing one with the remark "she came 2900 miles from B.C. to attend our Hessian Day". This was a great day for all of us, and I sincerely hope it won't be forgotten. Yours truly John Helmut Merz

IMPORTANT NOTICE! As I have announced at the Rose House Museum Celebrations on 21. August 2004 at the Bay of Quinte, my complete research material collected over the last 20 years in respect to Hessian soldiers who have settled in Canada after the American Revolution has been turned over to the 7th Town Historical Society, President Ian E. Reilly, U.E., located at the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre, 528 County Road 19, Box 35, Ameliasburg, Ontario, Canada, K0K 1A0 Phone 1-613-967-6291 Their website is http://www.quinte-kin.com This material will shorthly be available for your family research. The 7th Town Historical Society has also taken over my remaining stock of books and will be available from them in future. These are: The Hessians of Nova Scotia, The Hessians of Upper Canada, The Hessians of Quebec, The Hessians of Marysburg, Ontario, while the "GUIDE to help you find your Hessian Soldier of the American Revolution" (this issue concerning those soldiers who remained primarly in the U.S.A., is still available from me. Just remember, appr. 2500 Hessian soldiers from different principalities remained in Canada after 1783, and one or more of them may be in 'YOUR" family tree. This concludes my research for this 'special' group' of settlers, in 3 weeks my American material goes to the 'Sons of the American Revolution', and I'll retire. Auf Wiedersehen, and best of luck to all of you. Cheers, John Helmut Merz, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

Forwarded to Hessian lists: From: <abcgenealogy@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:54 PM =============================== > Source: BACHMANN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Sons of the American Revolution - Library, > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Message Board URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AmB.2ACIB/85.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 > > It is extremely nice to hear from you and I am glad you were on this list. Yes I heard about your work and was not certain of the date for when it will be used. I am guessing it has to be inventoried and indexed and catalogued before people will be able to use it there. I am heading to Louisville for Trustees on the 25th of this month. > > I heard about your donation at the Congress in Pittsburgh in July of this year and also several members of the SAR told me about Hessians staying on after the Revolution as well as returning home with stories about the new world and then coming back to settle. I know several in the MDSSAR who have both Hessians and Patriots and Hessians who were Patriots (came to fight, switched sides and stayed). The problem has been that until your work, I am not sure there was a lot of effort to get those records published. > > I have used the official militia lists and then done research locally at courthouses on my ancestors if I believed they served but never found comprehensive lists locally on Hessians. I am assuming that the records were at some other location rather than local courthouses. I must admit being 25% German I have been intrigued but just not knowledgeable about German record research. I had to hire German firms to do my research for me. I can't wait to see your work and pursue the other German surnames in my line. I would love to find a Hessian soldier that came to America in there. Most of the ones of that time period in my direct line, if they fought, must have returned to German since we have death and burial records for them but just a few that I have I can't find their death information so it would be super to learn they came to America and stayed. > > I know your work will be a great benefit to future generations especially someone like me that loves the Amer. Rev. era records. > > Also the SAR is building that huge new complex (Center for Advancing America's Heritage) that your work will be a great part of. > > Thanks again, > Christos Jr. >

I'd sure like to visit Kentucky and see that collection of John's someday! Since the topics of SAR and DAR came up, I'd just like to add that there is another fine organization, the Sons of the Revolution, which I recently became a member of. Here is their main website: http://www.sr1776.org/ Be sure to visit Fraunces Tavern Museum when in NYC. This historic building, housing a colonial restaurant and museums, is owned by the NY Sons of the Revolution and is one of NY's oldest restaurants. In 1883 The Society of the Sons of the Revolution was founded in the Long Room on the centenary of Washington's farewell speech. http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/mus_farewell.html Bill Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz <hessian@sympatico.ca> Date: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:38 am Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search: Hessians and the S.A.R. Forwarded to the Hessians lists for your information: From: <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 11:05 PM > ================================ > Source: BACHMANN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Sons of the American Revolution - Library, > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bachmann. > Message Board URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AmB.2ACIB/85.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1> > Message Board Post: > > Having noticed your reference to the S.A.R. organization, > I would like to tell you that during the American Revolution > a great many Hessian soldiers, after having experienced > life in America, either as a prisoner of war or just a plain > deserter, did sign up with the Revolutionary forces and > served to the end of the war for America's freedom. Many > descendants have successfully applied for membership in > the S.A.R. or D.A.R. and the S.A.R. organization has now > started to collect research material in respect to Hessian > research in America, and as a result, having been asked > if I would donate my considerable research material to their > new library in Louisville, Kentucky, I have agreed to hand > over my total research within the next four weeks, and > arrangements are being made to transport from my home > town of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada to the Library in Kentucky. > It will then be available to the public. > ===And I will retire === > Regards, > John Helmut Merz > retiring researcher of Hessian soldiers of the AmRev. .

Forwarded to the Hessians lists for your information: From: <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 11:05 PM > ================================ > Source: BACHMANN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Sons of the American Revolution - Library, > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bachmann. > Message Board URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AmB.2ACIB/85.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Having noticed your reference to the S.A.R. organization, > I would like to tell you that during the American Revolution > a great many Hessian soldiers, after having experienced > life in America, either as a prisoner of war or just a plain > deserter, did sign up with the Revolutionary forces and > served to the end of the war for America's freedom. Many > descendants have successfully applied for membership in > the S.A.R. or D.A.R. and the S.A.R. organization has now > started to collect research material in respect to Hessian > research in America, and as a result, having been asked > if I would donate my considerable research material to their > new library in Louisville, Kentucky, I have agreed to hand > over my total research within the next four weeks, and > arrangements are being made to transport from my home > town of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada to the Library in Kentucky. > It will then be available to the public. > ===And I will retire === > Regards, > John Helmut Merz > retiring researcher of Hessian soldiers of the AmRev.

Hello Ron, I kept looking for this Chaplain of the Hessian troops who fought for King George III, and found one possible candidate, Andreas HEIN/HAYN, who was a Feldprediger (Chaplain) with the Hessen-Hanau Regiment Erbprinz, last stationed in Quebec acc. to the Muster Rolls, and probably returned home to Germany. Must have told his son how good he had it in America :-) Cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Ferry" <brothers3.rf@tds.net> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:39 PM > Hello List. > http://www.mowerfamily.org/notes/trinity.html > "Rev.Frederick Hainsey was a German. His father came to America as a Chaplain > of the Hessian Troops serving under King George., IV in the War of the Revolution". > > Ron Ferry

Hello Bill, here we meet you again once more. According to a letter you wrote me once, you know that your ancestor was not a Hessian soldier of the American Revolution. But you did come far with your research. One small correction - Wiedermus, Marienborn, such village names do ring a bell with me, in fact, my wife Emmi as a young girl dug sugarbeets in harvest time at the big farm at Marienborn. But Marienborn was part of the village of Eckartshausen, not Alt-Wiedermus. Eckartshausen is now incorporated in the City of Buedingen of Oberhessen, and with it Marienborn (btw. for one day's work she got two bushels of sugarbeets.) I just checked the German Phone book for the name Rauschenberg, besides that there is a village by that name, there are about 280 listings for that name, all over Germany, none in the area of Buedingen or Ronneburg. Our Hessian soldier Rauschenberg who settled in Quebec came from Hohenhameln according to the Brunswick troop lists. This is some distance west of Braunschweig. No connection to your ancestor it seems. Wishing you the best of luck in your search, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Roushey" <wroushey@peoplepc.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 1:09 PM > Source: BADEN-WURTTEMBERG-L@rootsweb.com > 2) My ancestor was born in Wiedermus, Marienborn, (today it is called AltWiedermus and part of Ronneburg). How would he travel to Wurttemberg back in 1718? Some people have stated that travel was by horse and cart and the pace of the journey would be slow. This distance would be quite great back then. Would the Rhine River be used (this would require travel up-river). > > 3) If my ancestor Jacob was originally from Wuerttemberg and lived for a time in Wiedermus while he was part of the Hessian Army, I am guessing that it was his military career that created this situation (and whatever fighting or battles he was involved in). My question is, did young men in Wurttemberg seek service in the Hessian Army? Or would a more likely scenario be that he joined the Wurttemberg army as a community requirement, and the leader of Wurttemberg gave battalions of his army over to the Brittish or the leaders of Hesse to fight in a specific engagement? > > Bill Roushey > Researching the 17th and 18th century Rauschenbergers

Hello List. http://www.mowerfamily.org/notes/trinty.html "Rev.Frederick Hainsey was a German. His father came to America as a Chaplain of the Hessian Troops serving under King George., IV in the War of the Revolution". Ron Ferry

Dear Suzanne Grosh, when did you decide to spell your name without the 'c' between the s and the h? 2 or 3 hundred years ago, they didn't take it too serious with the spelling of names. I have seen names spelled 28 different ways and you are lucky, your ancestor's name was spelled only 3 or 4 ways. Take it as a blessing in disguise, but rest assured, we have the right man. Incidently, his Hanau Artillery Captain Pausch's Journal spelled it Fahrbach on page 173 of his book, published by The New York Times and Arno Press, reprint edition 1971. Cheers, John Merz, an old Hessian himself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Grosh" <diva@media2.hypernet.com> To: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: Re: John Furbeck, Hanau Artillery = Johannes Forbach/Vorbach. > Thank you so much. I found the Oct '98 account. I'm a little confused by > all of the different spellings. How do we know it's the same person? Would > he have simply decided to start spelling his name differently. I have been > looking for Fuhrbeck, per the German spelling of what was later anglicized > (I assumed) to Furbeck. Now it appears that it had at least 3 spellings > (Forbach, Vorbach and Fahrbach)!!! > Suzanne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > To: "Suzanne Grosh" <diva@media2.hypernet.com>; > <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:23 PM

Suzanne, you really got good advise from Ed Maul, and I give you some leads on top of it. I went on the Internet in 1997 and one of my first e-mails was from a Shirley from California asking for this name. Shortly after I started my mail list AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com and there is quite a report made on 12. Oct. 1998. Just check the archives for Forbach, this is how to get the archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians Cheers, John Merz (my GUIDE and other Hessian books are listed on eBay right now my seller name is the-hessian ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne Grosh Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: John Furbeck Hello, I was referred to you by Ed Maul who said that you might have some information on my 6th great grandfather, John Furbeck. He was born on April 26, 1760 in Germany. Local histories and at least one descendant state that he was born in Rodeheim, Germany. I believe that this is a misspelling as I have been unable to locate a town called Rodeheim in all of Germany. There is a town called Roedelheim that is near Frankfurt and in the Hessian area from which some of the soldiers came between 1776 and 1882. He came as a Hessian soldier, was captured shortly before the battle of Saratoga(Oct. 1777?) and later joined the Colonial Army in 1778 and served 2 years and ended up in New Scotland, New York. There is a description of his experiences in the history of the church. I will send it to you separately and I can't seem to cut and paste it. I am most interested in pinning down where he came from and why he became a Hessian soldier at barely 17 years old and what he did in the Hessian army. He married Susanna Koon Coons on Dec 30, 1784. They had eleven children and he died on January 5, 1840. She died on October 24, 1840 and they are both buried at the Presbyterian Church Cemetery in New Scotland, Albany Cty., N.Y. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Suzanne Grosh