I'm checking to see if my Internet Provider Spam-Virus Filter is stopping the ROOTSWEB messagies coming to me. I haven't gotten any in over two (2) weeks. If this comes back to me from Rootsweb I'll know it is working. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks,

Dear Hessians, I have a few of the pins and almost 100 of the pendants left. 1st come, 1st served---checks received after I'm sold out will be destroyed. If you've lost the ordering and price details, please contact me off-list < fetters@bright.net >, and I'll send the particulars. Bob Fetters, Descendant of Cpl. John Henry HAMMER

The answer to your question in mail list archives under 16. May 2000. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack P. Wolfe" <wolfelaw@uos.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Fw: Wolfe or Shoenewolff > Mail List archives are your best bet to find information, try > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L >

Jack, as I recall from memory - Johann and Johannes Schoen(e)wolf are not the same as Kaspar Schoenewolf -keep digging in the archives, did you look for 'shana' ? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack P. Wolfe" <wolfelaw@uos.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Fw: Wolfe or Shoenewolff > Thank you for your prompt response. I found your earlier correspondence, > that led to the magazine article I referenced. But I still have a problem. > Your earlier info said Johann Schoenewolff was listed as a deserter in June > of 1781. The Vital Records of Leominster, Mass contain the marriage > certificate of John Casper Shana Wolf to Rachel Battels in January of 1781. > I have been to the side-by-side graves of them both in Rockingham, Vermont. > Also, "The History of Rockingham" lists different parents for John. Oh well, > more digging to do before things are confirmed! > > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Our mail list archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > Founded by John Helmut Merz, Hessian soldier researcher. > His Canadian research material is deposited with the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre, Ameliasburg, Ontario. >

Thank you I will. I found an entry in the archives for a Johann Wolf from Steinbrunn/Alsace and the Brunswick-Barner Regiment at Saratoga that I will follow up on. The age is right, and he is listed as Catholic. We know that the Vermont Wolf, when asked at the Town Meeting House which of the local protestant religions he ascribed to, answered "none of the above." The Town Historian thought he was probably just obstinate, but perhaps it was because he was Catholic??

Thank you for your prompt response. I found your earlier correspondence, that led to the magazine article I referenced. But I still have a problem. Your earlier info said Johann Schoenewolff was listed as a deserter in June of 1781. The Vital Records of Leominster, Mass contain the marriage certificate of John Casper Shana Wolf to Rachel Battels in January of 1781. I have been to the side-by-side graves of them both in Rockingham, Vermont. Also, "The History of Rockingham" lists different parents for John. Oh well, more digging to do before things are confirmed!

Jack, this was a real good move of yours, and I am glad you did ask - because "he who does not ask, will get no answers". Well as far as getting an answer from me - you are out of luck, because all my Hessian research material for Hessians who remained in the U.S.A. is on its way to the HQ of the Sons of the Americam Revolution in Louisville, Kentucky, and in a few weeks or months will be available for Hessian soldier researchers. But I don't think you have to wait that long - this mail lists archive is full of information about your man - try the keyword archive and try the different spellings - Schoenewolf - Schoenewolff - Wolf - Wolff and you may find some under - Shana - If you are really interested in Hessian soldier history, try the other -month by month- archive, absolutely amazing what you find !! Good luck, John Helmut Merz, (retired in Canada) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack P. Wolfe" <wolfelaw@uos.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: Wolfe or Shoenewolff > Good Afternoon, > I'm new at this, but it looks as though I can just ask a question, so > here goes. > "The History of The Town of Rockingham, Vermont" shows my ancestor as John > Casper Shana Wolf, a Hessian soldier who was probably in the battle of <SNIP> > . Does anyone know more or have any ideas? > Jack Wolfe > > Our mail list archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > Founded by John Helmut Merz, Hessian soldier researcher.

Hello Cliff, I don't know why and how Rootsweb let your forwarding a whole Digest get through, must be a glitch in the system. But please - not again, unless you erase all the other messages first. According to HETRINA IV #7359-73 Wambach, Jacob, served with the Hessen-Kassel Regt. v. Seitz in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Born 1754/55 in Biedenkopf. One entry said: Released from arrest Feb.1779. Following entry says - arrested after desertion March 1782. Last entry says: Executed in April 1782. There should be more about this in the Staatsarchiv Marburg/Hessen. For address check mail list archives of this list. BTW, Johann Ludwig Wambach married Anna Cahtherina Pentz, and they had 10 children. Regards, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: AMREV-HESSIANS-D Digest V04 #183 > Hi John. > OK, I will ask you about Jacob Wambach since a son of Johann Ludwig Wambach > was named Johann Jacob Wambach, b. 23 Feb 1754 in Biedenkopf, Ger. Neither of > these two have a death date in Biedenkopf and all children were born on or before > 1764 in Germany. Is it possible that both relocated to Nova Scotia??? Did their > families also locate in Nova Scotia??? > Sincerely, > Cliff > > AMREV-HESSIANS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Subject: > > > > AMREV-HESSIANS-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 183

Good Afternoon, I'm new at this, but it looks as though I can just ask a question, so here goes. "The History of The Town of Rockingham, Vermont" shows my ancestor as John Casper Shana Wolf, a Hessian soldier who was probably in the battle of Saratoga and walked away from his companions in Leominster, Mass. when they were marched to Virginia in 1778. We know he married in Leominster before moving to Rockingham, but this has always been a dead end for my family until we were recently given a page from "500 Brickwall Solutions to Genealogy Problems" that said his name was really Johann Caspar Shoenewolff from Rotterode in Kassel-Hesse, born there January 26, 1755. I have been in contact with the park rangers at Saratoga National Historic Park and they cannot find a proper match for either John Wolf or Johann Shoenewolff on their muster lists for that battle. We would really like to confirm his activities in the war and where he originated from in Germany. Does anyone know more or have any ideas? Jack Wolfe

Hi John. OK, I will ask you about Jacob Wambach since a son of Johann Ludwig Wambach was named Johann Jacob Wambach, b. 23 Feb 1754 in Biedenkopf, Ger. Neither of these two have a death date in Biedenkopf and all children were born on or before 1764 in Germany. Is it possible that both relocated to Nova Scotia??? Did their families also locate in Nova Scotia??? Sincerely, Cliff AMREV-HESSIANS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > AMREV-HESSIANS-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 183 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-D ["John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca>] > #2 Re: Johann Ludwig Wambach from Bie ["John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca>] > #3 Re: Conrad Earthenhouse ["John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca>] > > Administrivia: > To subscribe or unsubscribe from AMREV-HESSIANS-D, send a message to > AMREV-HESSIANS-D-request@rootsweb.com > leave subject line blank, and write in text field one word > subscribe or unsubscribe > and no other text. No signature lines or graphics! > > Every posting is archived and may be accessed by clicking on > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > and enter your query 'keyword' a name or place, or if you > look for a date, enter as shown "1 may 2004" and you will > get all postings for that day. > To read threaded postings from Feb.1999 forward click on > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L/ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:47:47 -0400 > From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Cliff, > ain't that the pits - for many years I have tried to get subscribers > of my Hessenland list to provide me with names of soldiers from > their particular town or village - and with a few exceptions nobody > bothered. Myself never sorted those 6000 soldiers out, who stayed > here, other than alphabethically, except once when writing about > "The Hessians of Nova Scotia", because in my belief that those > Hessians somehow stuck together in a new land, I looked at everyone's > place of birth, wasn't to hard, there were only 235 of them. > And guess what, there was one from Biedenkopf, but the funny part > was, he served with the Anhalt-Zerbst troops. His name was > Johann Ludwig WAMBACH, and he was from Biedenkopf-Breidenstein. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> > To: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > > > Hi John, > > Thanks. I also some some spellings going back to about 1690 of Briol and > > Pruhl. > > I would like to know if there were any Hessians who fought in the American > > Revolution who were from the Town of Biedenkopf, > Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany. > > Cliff > > > > John Merz wrote: > > > > > Hello Cliff; > > > there is no way that I could help you with the little you are > > > telling me. What list are you talking about, what time are you > > > looking at, where was your ancestor found, etc., etc. > > > If you read or subscribe to lists the only way to get help is to > > > post clear questions to a list, or a Message Board, with as much > > > detail as you know. > > > Cheers, > > > John > > > btw. Bruehl could be Bruell, Broehl, Broell. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> > > > To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:21 PM > > > Subject: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > I'm relatively new to this list and realize that you are > > > > more-or-less retired. My request is a quicky, I am searching my BRÜHL > > > > ancestors and mostly this is done thru a person who has been > translating > > > > church records from Biedenkopf, Hesse-Darmstadt. So far, only one > person > > > > has turned up with the occupation of "soldier". I tried to determine > if > > > > the area of Biedenkopf was used to supply Hessians > > > > to King George during the American Revolution with no luck. Would you > > > > please address this subject??? > > > > Cliff Thompson > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Johann Ludwig Wambach from Biedenkopf. > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:25:20 -0400 > From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com > > Just because I posted this to the AMREV-HESSIANS list, > I want to confirm that the Nova Scotia Soldier settler, > was the son of Johann Ludwig Wambach and Anna Maria > FLAMM, and his birth day was 10.Dec.1757. > (This acc. to my book Hessians of Nova Scotia, page 237) > John Merz > btw. If you had asked me about a Jacob Wambach born 1754/55, > I may have had something else. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > > > Hi John, > > The list that I have access to is a list of translations of German > Church > > Records > > dating back to 1714 when the vicarage in Biedenkopf burned. A lady has > been > > translating these records and I just looked at her index and there is a > Johann > > Ludwig Wambach listed who was born on 14 Aug 1731. He was a shoemaker > > and married to an Anna Maria Flamm on 29 Jun 1753. He had 6 children > > born 1754 to 1764. That's about it and I did not expect much more than > that, > > altho one or two persons I have searched have been listed as having an > > occupation of soldier. Birth, death, and marriage is pretty much what is > > available. Occupation creps in once in a while. > > Thanks again, > > Cliff > > > > John Merz wrote: > <SNIP> Myself never sorted those 6000 soldiers out, who > stayed here, other than alphabethically, except once when > writing about "The Hessians of Nova Scotia", because in > my belief that those Hessians somehow stuck together in > a new land, I looked at everyone's place of birth, wasn't to > hard, there were only 235 of them. > And guess what, there was one from Biedenkopf, but the > funny part was, he served with the Anhalt-Zerbst troops. > His name was Johann Ludwig WAMBACH, and he was > from Biedenkopf-Breidenstein. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Conrad Earthenhouse > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:27 -0400 > From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com > > Redirected from the subscribe robot to me and finally > to the right address: > (Ken, you should try to search our mail list archives for > lots more on Bodenhausen) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ken houp" <kenhoup@adelphia.net> > To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:01 PM > Subject: Conrad Earthenhouse > > > Conrad Earthenhouse, maybe Bodenhaus, was a Hessian soldier ( born in > Schoningen Germany ) who deserted the British in 1779 and fought for the > Colonist in the South Carolina battles of Cowpens. He spent some time in > Hanover Va before settling in Hagerstown Maryland in the 1790s. He left that > area about 1800 and settled in Jessamine Co ( Nicholasville area ) on > Jessamine Creek. He had three daughters and one son John. Wife unknown. His > house on the creek still stands. Conrad applied for a pension about 1838 was > rejected and died shortly after. His closest friend was Jacob Zike ( Zeuch ) > who lived along the creek also. Conrad had a mill and a distillery. Most of > the information I have on Conrad was obtained from his sworn pension > application. Conrad still has many descendents ( Bowmans and Cormans living > here in Jessamine Co ( borders Fayette Co--Lexington, Ky ). > > > > I am in just as interested in Jacob Zike. Contact me at > kenhoup@adelphia.net > >

From John Merz's files: Warm regards, Jane Curci http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AMREV-HESSIANS/1998-11/0911448486 AMREV-HESSIANS-L Archives > > From: RKing <DisplayMail('mvillage.com','buzzard');<A HREF="mailto:buzzard@mvillage.com">buzzard@mvillage.com</A>> > Subject: Earthenhouse/Zeuch > I have been told that Jacob Zeuch was a private in the Erbprinz Regt., > and that he enlisted at Niederzuenzebach, a village near Eschwege. Some > weeks ago a party in Marburg contacted me, and was going to do a bit of searching > for me for further data. He has not yet gotten back to me. > > According to Clyde Bunch - > > who is a gentleman greatly interested in the early history of Jessamine > Co., KY - Conrad Earthenhouse dictated his pension application in Jessamine Co. > on 1/27/1843. Conrad was b. May 1755 in Schoningen, Ger., d. Dec 1843 in > Jessamine Co., KY. In the application he says he came to the States in 1776, on > the same ship as Jacob Zeuch, and they became fast friends. In the spring of > 1779 they were among troops sent to the mouth of the James River in Virginia > on what was a very successful British raid. However, when the fleet departed, > both Conrad and Jacob were not aboard. They escaped the region, moved > overland to Hanover Co., VA, where they joined the American forces under Gen. Edward > Stevens. Subsequently, they fought in the battles of Camden and Cowpens in > Virginia, and witnessed the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. After > Yorktown, Conrad joined the state militia in Hanover Co., VA, and participated in > several expeditions against the indians. After about a year he moved to > Washington Co., VA, then in c. 1800 to Jessamine Co., KY, where he was reunited with > his friend Jacob. In these later years he was a farmer and a weaver, and a > loyal member of the Union Christian Church. Conrad is buried in the old Church > lot on Short Shun road. > > As I said, credit this info to Clyde Bunch. If I understood him > correctly, he is not a descendent, but very interested and knowledgeable > with respect to Jessamine Co., KY. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AMREV-HESSIANS/1998-09/0905832822 > From: John Helmut Merz <DisplayMail('cgocable.net','hessian');<A HREF="mailto:hessian@cgocable.net"> > hessian@cgocable.net</A>> > Subject: Conrad Bodenhausen/Earthenhouse - Lossberg Regt. > > I have had some correspondence with a descendant of this soldier, > a Mr. Clyde N. Bunch*. He gave me many details about this soldier who had > settled first in Washington County in Maryland, and later lived in Jessamine > County (?), and also about a comrade of this > soldier by the name of Jacob Zike/Zeuch who was from the Kassel > Regt.Erbprinz. > I have lost contact with this descendant, his old e-mail address is > invalid. Perhaps there is somebody on this list who knows of any of > Contributed to the Kentucky Archives by: Clyde N. Bunch* "kd4vqd@juno.com"

http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjessam/military/rwsoldiers.htm KNOWN REVOLUTIONARY WAR SOLDIERS OF JESSAMINE COUNTY, KENTUCKY ------------------------------------------------- i am sending this to you for your review. Warm regards, Jane Curci wmcurci@aol.com Contributed to the Kentucky Archives by: Clyde N. Bunch "kd4vqd@juno.com" January 11, 1999 ------------------------------------------------- To all, I have been interested in the Revolutionary Soldiers of Jessamine County for a great many years. I taught others on this list enjoy reading about these remarkable men. I will start with the data on each and end with a list of the ones I have discovered in this county. CONRAD EARTHENHOUSER R.W.S., applied for a pension in Jessamine County, in 1832. He gave his age as 88 years old at the time. He said he was born in Germany in May of 1755. He came to America as a soldier to fight the Americans. He deserted the British in 1779 and joined the United States army. He enlisted at Hanover County, Virginia, in 1779. He goes on to say that after the war he lived in Washington County, Maryland, until 1801, when he moved to Jessamine County, Kentucky. (Pension No. R. 3199) Note: Buried on Short Shun Road, at the old Jessamine Creek meetinghouse.

From a reader in Denver, Colorado My own German ancestor who saw combat in the American Revolution has not shown up on any Hessian lists and I can only conclude he didn't arrive with the Hessian army but came on his own with his brother. The AmRev war came along and they had to choose. One joined the Tories; one fought for the Patriots. I don't know more than that about them. I don't know which of them is my ancestor. I continue avidly to read all of your family stories because it's thrilling to read details of the lives of those early Americans. Keep the stories coming! You make your ancestors come alive for me. Thank you. Lynne Miller

Hi Jane, Wow how kind of you.. I even enjoyed seeing her ancestor there Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/

Redirected from the subscribe robot to me and finally to the right address: (Ken, you should try to search our mail list archives for lots more on Bodenhausen) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ken houp" <kenhoup@adelphia.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Conrad Earthenhouse > Conrad Earthenhouse, maybe Bodenhaus, was a Hessian soldier ( born in Schoningen Germany ) who deserted the British in 1779 and fought for the Colonist in the South Carolina battles of Cowpens. He spent some time in Hanover Va before settling in Hagerstown Maryland in the 1790s. He left that area about 1800 and settled in Jessamine Co ( Nicholasville area ) on Jessamine Creek. He had three daughters and one son John. Wife unknown. His house on the creek still stands. Conrad applied for a pension about 1838 was rejected and died shortly after. His closest friend was Jacob Zike ( Zeuch ) who lived along the creek also. Conrad had a mill and a distillery. Most of the information I have on Conrad was obtained from his sworn pension application. Conrad still has many descendents ( Bowmans and Cormans living here in Jessamine Co ( borders Fayette Co--Lexington, Ky ). > > I am in just as interested in Jacob Zike. Contact me at kenhoup@adelphia.net >

Just because I posted this to the AMREV-HESSIANS list, I want to confirm that the Nova Scotia Soldier settler, was the son of Johann Ludwig Wambach and Anna Maria FLAMM, and his birth day was 10.Dec.1757. (This acc. to my book Hessians of Nova Scotia, page 237) John Merz btw. If you had asked me about a Jacob Wambach born 1754/55, I may have had something else. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > Hi John, > The list that I have access to is a list of translations of German Church > Records > dating back to 1714 when the vicarage in Biedenkopf burned. A lady has been > translating these records and I just looked at her index and there is a Johann > Ludwig Wambach listed who was born on 14 Aug 1731. He was a shoemaker > and married to an Anna Maria Flamm on 29 Jun 1753. He had 6 children > born 1754 to 1764. That's about it and I did not expect much more than that, > altho one or two persons I have searched have been listed as having an > occupation of soldier. Birth, death, and marriage is pretty much what is > available. Occupation creps in once in a while. > Thanks again, > Cliff > > John Merz wrote: <SNIP> Myself never sorted those 6000 soldiers out, who stayed here, other than alphabethically, except once when writing about "The Hessians of Nova Scotia", because in my belief that those Hessians somehow stuck together in a new land, I looked at everyone's place of birth, wasn't to hard, there were only 235 of them. And guess what, there was one from Biedenkopf, but the funny part was, he served with the Anhalt-Zerbst troops. His name was Johann Ludwig WAMBACH, and he was from Biedenkopf-Breidenstein.

Hello Cliff, ain't that the pits - for many years I have tried to get subscribers of my Hessenland list to provide me with names of soldiers from their particular town or village - and with a few exceptions nobody bothered. Myself never sorted those 6000 soldiers out, who stayed here, other than alphabethically, except once when writing about "The Hessians of Nova Scotia", because in my belief that those Hessians somehow stuck together in a new land, I looked at everyone's place of birth, wasn't to hard, there were only 235 of them. And guess what, there was one from Biedenkopf, but the funny part was, he served with the Anhalt-Zerbst troops. His name was Johann Ludwig WAMBACH, and he was from Biedenkopf-Breidenstein. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> To: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > Hi John, > Thanks. I also some some spellings going back to about 1690 of Briol and > Pruhl. > I would like to know if there were any Hessians who fought in the American > Revolution who were from the Town of Biedenkopf, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany. > Cliff > > John Merz wrote: > > > Hello Cliff; > > there is no way that I could help you with the little you are > > telling me. What list are you talking about, what time are you > > looking at, where was your ancestor found, etc., etc. > > If you read or subscribe to lists the only way to get help is to > > post clear questions to a list, or a Message Board, with as much > > detail as you know. > > Cheers, > > John > > btw. Bruehl could be Bruell, Broehl, Broell. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cliff Thompson" <cfthomp@friend.ly.net> > > To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:21 PM > > Subject: Prussian soldiers from Hesse-Darmstadt > > > > > Hi John, > > > I'm relatively new to this list and realize that you are > > > more-or-less retired. My request is a quicky, I am searching my BRÜHL > > > ancestors and mostly this is done thru a person who has been translating > > > church records from Biedenkopf, Hesse-Darmstadt. So far, only one person > > > has turned up with the occupation of "soldier". I tried to determine if > > > the area of Biedenkopf was used to supply Hessians > > > to King George during the American Revolution with no luck. Would you > > > please address this subject??? > > > Cliff Thompson

Forwarded to AMREV-HESSIANS-L@ & HESSENLAND-L@ mail lists: From: "Nelson Sulouff" <zuli@sprintmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 5:39 PM > ================================== > Source: SULOUFF-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SULOUFF & SULOFF] Sulouff Family > > Hello Richard and Charlene, > > Thanks for your response and for the additions you have contributed to the Sulouff>Suloff Family History. When I added your daughter, Gwen, to the list of descendants for our immigrant ancestor, Johannes Zulauf, she became the 2203rd descendant on record. Your wife, Charlene, became the 1104th spouse of descendants on record. Those still living are scattered widely throughout the USA and with several living in foreign countries. I would estimate that those with the Sulouff or Suloff surname currently alive would number less than 500 and possibly as few as 300. > > I'm trying to figure out who the Roy Sulouff is that you met at the Sunbury armory. I know about my first cousin, Roy, who is also a first cousin of your grandfather, Carl Sulouff; but he is now 63 years old and I am puzzled about what he would be doing at the armory. I have him listed as a locksmith by trade.Would you kindly try to find out for me who are parents of the Roy Sulouff you met at the armory? > > Incidentally I was a member of the 190th FA Group at the Sunbury armory from June 1948 until September 1950 when we were federalized during the Korean "conflict." Will you tell me if the 190th FA Group is a unit currently at the Sunbury armory? > > Concerning a coat of arms for the Sulouff surname, I have been contacted at least three times by persons pretending to have researched the surname and promising to provide a European coat-of-arms for a price. Beware such scam offers. The Sulouff surname was invented by a Hessian soldier who arrived in America on 15 Aug 1776. His surname was consistently spelled Zulauf in his military documents and it appears also in his 1783 marriage record. However, in the same year he got married the tax record for Robeson Twp., Berks Co., spells his name Sulouf. After he moved to Juniata Co. in 1802 he appears quite consistently with the surname Sulouff, but in 1828 he signed his will as Johannes Zulauf. John Sulouff is the name inscribed on his gravestone at the Old Church Hill Cemetery outside of Port Royal, Pa. > > If you want to search for a family coat-of-arms you will need to search in Germany for the surname Zulauf. You will not find the name Sulouff in Germany. I have traced our Zulauf line back into the early 1700's in Hesse, Germany, but I have not been able to identify for certain the line from which Johannes Zulauf came. A family tradition passed down from the immigrant's youngest daughter, Elizabeth (Zulauf) Noetling, says Johannes Zulauf's father was named Walter Zulauf and that he died in Germany during the Seven-Years War (1756-63). That is as far back as I have been able to accumulate information on our surname. > > Thanks again for your response. It is much appreciated. > > Nelson R. Sulouff > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard & Charlene > To: SULOUFF-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:37 PM > Subject: [SULOUFF & SULOFF] Sulouff Family > > (Snip) > You would be correct with your information, and my mother and father <SNIP>

Dear Susan; Thanks again for buying my book, the "GUIDE', and it will go out in the morning. I will include a photocopy of a page out of my 'Hessians of Nova Scotia' book about a Johann Christoph WAGNER, who was a Chaplain in the Ansbach-Bayreuth Regiment, which was captured at Yorktown, Virginia in Oct. 1781, and was brought to Frederick, Maryland, where he was promised a congregation. But he did go with other soldiers of the Regiment to settle in Nova Scotia after the war ended, and he received a rather large landgrant. But somehow he run into a problem with the local Anglican priest, and took his family and it was said that he returned to Germany. I don't know whether or not that is true, but it could well be that he returned to Frederick. He was married and had 5 children. I do have a sneaky feeling that he rather went to Maryland instead of returning to Germany. My Hessian files are not available to me anymore, they are packed and are being shipped to the S.A.R. in Louisville, Kentucky, hopefully by Monday this coming week. Thanks again, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan King To: John Merz Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: eBay Item: GUIDE to help you find your Hessian - AmRev. Genealogy (Item #2496096702) Hi John, I'm still working on confirming him as my gggg grandfather, but his name was Christopher Waggoner (Wagoner/Wagner) and by 1792, he was residing in Oldtown (aka Skipton), MD. He lived out his days there and is buried there. It can get confusing because there are a few Christopher/Christians floating around that area of MD and just over the PA border. There was a Christofor Waggoner from Washington Co., MD who was given or purchased part of a land tract known as Caledonia, but I don't know which guy that was and can't find where Caledonia was. I believe there was at least one Christopher who was a POW in Ft. Frederick. As I've said, I'm reading each and every message on AMREV-Hessians as I have the time and am determined if this can be figured out, I'll do it. So, of course, one of the first things I concluded was that I need your Guide. Thank you! Susan King ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: susanshop@carolina.rr.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: eBay Item: GUIDE to help you find your Hessian - AmRev. Genealogy (Item #2496096702) Hello Susan, thank you for your buying and paying before I even clicked on 'Invoice' :) If you have a Hessian in your tree, give me his name and perhaps, just perhaps, I have something on him. Cheers, John Merz

Hello: I would like to know about a Hessian Soldier, Gottlieb Loede, who fought for King George in the USA (battle of Independence) He was captured. After the war he came to Canada and the king gave him a parcel of land..1Lot.. Conn.1 Lot 3 in leeds County in southern Ontario. Canada I would like to know more about this man. I would appreciate any help Thank You Allan Clark allanc@ca.inter.net