Hi John, The cost of that organization is what sent me looking... when I found you and this list... The Items I have seen that they have on the Bonsteins actually seems to have come from an earlier Bonstein researcher and yet they wanted to charge me for research.. or membership. Thank you for This list and your Help you have given all of us... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/

Thanks, Liz, for letting me put this over to the Hessians list, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris Gates" xxxxxxx <To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 3:57 AM Subject: PA Berks list & post Hessian List (GECHTER) > Hi John, > > I'm Liz Johnson from PA-Berks list. > xxxxxxx > I have changed over to my personal mail to write to you. Greetings & > best wishes. > > Thanks again for pointing out my goofy link to the Berks List. > > Found something interesting today, maybe you would like to comment. > > I think I might be related to Mary-Anne on the AmRev/Hessian list. But > although there are some great researchers on the Rev-Hessian list, I > don't know if I want to join more lists right now. However, maybe you > remember what resulted from a series of postings made to the Hessian > List. That was mid-June 2004, thus: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/A/AMREV-HESSIANS+2004+134219439+F > > > Yesterday and tonight, after leaving one frustrating research subject > alone for a while, I was checking again for record of her missing set of > parents. After reading about Hessian soldiers reamining in US, I was > reading list archives. So it's strange to begin looking at archives, > then immediately find your post from last June. But was really nice to > see not only that you are interested in the subject but also that you > had found one person with the exact name I was looking for. So I am glad > that you are over that list. > > Mine would have to be this man: > > > And one more time the military details for (S#19): > > Gechter, Johann Adam, Ansbach-Bayreuth troops, deserted 29/9/1781. > > I also have surname GECHTER of Reading, and people by that name don't > seem to show up around there until around 1800, which would be about > right for a guy who left the army & married a girl from PA somewhere. I > think his daughter Elizabeth married Johann Babb of Exeter, Berks. If > this is the father, he would have to have been an early deserter, as > there is an Elizabeth b. 1782. She must have had at least two siblings > also in the area. > So I am interested in pursuing that. There were only a few mentions of > people by this name, found in the Reading Adler, weddings between 1800 - > 1810. > > Nice work over there on Hessian List. You're not only Admin but also > great human enyclopedia! Thank you so much! Did you ever discover if the > contact, Mary-Anne, on the other list found who her subject married, and > where? > > Hope you can forward my message somehow; maybe she is still on that List. > > Thanks again about my krunched link; I was so pleased to find the > resource after I noticed the name I wanted, but I was tired, or my eyes > were. The PA-Berks list will survive my goofiness I hope. Maybe you will > too. > > Now I'm off to read just a little more history. > > All the best, > Liz J > > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:53:30 -0500, John Merz <hessian@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > > Liz, > > > there got to be something wrong with this website

Fellow listers, you might want to check out the following link to today's Phildelphia Inquirer, which has the story of this year's reenactment of the famous crossing...the boys couldn't go over this year because the river was running too fast.....bet it wouldn't have stopped old George! http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/10501003.htm Bill Hawk, proud descendant of Philipp Reges of Hesse-Hanau

Well now, Bill and Nelda; Hessians! That explains a lot - and frankly, the British in charge at the time, should have known the character of their former officer George Washington, and what he could be planning, and should have issued 'yellow or orange' alerts in time to warn those poor Hessians :) I sincerely hope that everyone found his/hers new Christmas toys under the tree this morning, and is happy. Merry Christmas. Enjoy your Christmas turkey. Your John Merz from north of the 'undefended' border, your security people are scratching their heads about. ----- Original Message ----- From: <wjsmith@optonline.net> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. > Hi, > > Here's a link about Washington's beliefs (and lack of them) > http://www.deism.com/washington.htm > <Snip> > > Cheers! > Bill >

Hi John, Happy Holidays to you and Yours and of course to all on the list! Now for those of us in the USA... aren't we glad Washington's fellow English Officers did not figure out just how determined he was... That he would attack on Christmas... All is fair in love and War! I wonder just what the Hessian Celebrations was like? Of course they had their religious activities, but what else? A special dinner, exchanging of gifts... was it anything like what it should be now? hummmmmmmmmmmm just wondering... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:07:40 -0500 Well now, Bill and Nelda; Hessians! That explains a lot - and frankly, the British in charge at the time, should have known the character of their former officer George Washington, and what he could be planning, and should have issued 'yellow or orange' alerts in time to warn those poor Hessians :) I sincerely hope that everyone found his/hers new Christmas toys under the tree this morning, and is happy. Merry Christmas. Enjoy your Christmas turkey. Your John Merz from north of the 'undefended' border, your security people are scratching their heads about. ----- Original Message ----- From: <wjsmith@optonline.net> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. > Hi, > > Here's a link about Washington's beliefs (and lack of them) > http://www.deism.com/washington.htm > <Snip> > > Cheers! > Bill > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== For Hessian research in Canada contact the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre, Ameliasburg, Ontario e-mail 7thtownmagrc@kos.net or check the mail list archives of this list for address. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L This list was started by Johannes Helmut Merz, Hessian researcher.

Belated, but sincere good wishes for a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the listers. Joy Happiness and good Health and the answer to all your genealogy hard-to-find questions. Special thoughts for John at this time of the year, who is soldiering on until a replacement for the AMREV-HESSIAN mail list is found, and to Dominique, who is doing a fine job as John's replacement on the QUEBEC-HESSIANS list. Meilleurs souhaits des Fêtes à tous. Sincerely Frank Watters

Hi, Here's a link about Washington's beliefs (and lack of them) http://www.deism.com/washington.htm I also had relatives on both sides - and my Brunswicker ancestor joined the American Army, after being captured with Burgoyne at Saratoga. My 6th g uncle, Thomas Chase, a Mason, was a participant at the Boston Tea Party. Cheers! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> Date: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:52 pm Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. > Hi, > I don't know Washington's religion/faith, but his cousin Col > Gilpin was > Quaker...(my relative) > And as John Said in love and war only results count. Though I > heard it All > in Love or War is FAIR... > I know my Hessians Paulus and Johann Jacob Bonnstein were both > caught at > Trenton.... > So you see I had relatives on both sides.... and quite a few of my > relatives > are/were Masons too.... > Nelda > > To see a Christian Card > http://www.geocities.com/nlp100/xmascard.htm > > Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG > Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ > > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > The Source HETRINA has been discussed more often than anything > else, you find the explanations by checking our key word archive > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > You can find it by typing in "26 feb 1999" and look for HETRINA. > Or check the Threaded Archives for February 1999 - Hetrina > publication. >

Mr. Merz wrote that Christmas was "the most "Christian of all Christian holidays" Isn't Easter supposed to be the highest "Christian" holiday? I don't know much about Washington's affiliation with Christianity but, since he was a Mason and (possibly) a Deist (along with many other Founding Fathers), he may not have been too concerned with Xmas. Merry Saturnalia and Happy New Year! ----- Original Message ----- From: "devy" <idevy@kinex.net> > You are so very right! Now is the time for us each to examine ourselves, > and to recognize the real meaning of this special holiday. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:45 PM > Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. > > Hello Hessians; > > > > I have seen the TV movie, I have read many books about this > > event on Christmas 1776 at Trenton, N.J. when General George > > Washington surprised the Hessians in their sleep after they had > > celebrated the most Christian of all Christian holidays. > > > > True Christian spirit, but then again - > > in love and war only results count. > > Food for thought - another Christmas is coming. > > > > I wish for a peaceful Christmas 2004 > > I wish for everyone to 'think' PEACE and make PEACE > > and help PEACE. > > > > Merry Christmas > > John Helmut Merz

Hi, I don't know Washington's religion/faith, but his cousin Col Gilpin was Quaker...(my relative) And as John Said in love and war only results count. Though I heard it All in Love or War is FAIR... I know my Hessians Paulus and Johann Jacob Bonnstein were both caught at Trenton.... So you see I had relatives on both sides.... and quite a few of my relatives are/were Masons too.... Nelda To see a Christian Card http://www.geocities.com/nlp100/xmascard.htm Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/

You are so very right! Now is the time for us each to examine ourselves, and to recognize the real meaning of this special holiday. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: PML Search Hessian - Christmas at Trenton 1776. > Hello Hessians; > > I have seen the TV movie, I have read many books about this > event on Christmas 1776 at Trenton, N.J. when General George > Washington surprised the Hessians in their sleep after they had > celebrated the most Christian of all Christian holidays. > > True Christian spirit, but then again - > in love and war only results count. > Food for thought - another Christmas is coming. > > I wish for a peaceful Christmas 2004 > I wish for everyone to 'think' PEACE and make PEACE > and help PEACE. > > Merry Christmas > John Helmut Merz > > > > ======================================== > > A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > > search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================================ > > Source: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Washington's Christmas > > > > Thank you for sending this James - it's a great reminder. > > > > I'm sure everyone's seen it but would like to mention that the Hessian > > attack is done rather nicely in a made for TV movie called The > > Crossing. It's on either the History Channel or A&E. They repeat it > > rather often. I've watched it a couple/three times now and am still in > > awe of, and very thankful for, what those men went thru for us!! > > > > Merry Christmas to all -- Terri > > > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > The subject of this list - Hessian Soldiers of the American Revolution > No other wars - no other German immigrants. Please stick to the subject. > Please no signature lines, they confuse our mail list archives. > >

Chere Dominique, Merci beaucoup pour l'information de la famille Geckel/Kaigle! J'insere Antoine dans la genealogie! Joyeux Noel! Louise Briggs (Godbout-Gamache, au Canada) _coastkid917@aol.com_ (mailto:coastkid917@aol.com)

Hello Louise and the List ! I only worked on the first generation, but here's what I have : Johann Anton GECKEL/ GOEKEL (Kaigle, Kekel, Stegel, Tegel), Hesse-Hanau, Stabscomp (HAJ, Jaeger), Kornrumpff co. transfered Castendyck co., mustered 00-02-1777, discharged 00-07-1783, born c. 1760 Spachbruecken (postal code : D6101), married 27 Jun. 1783 Christ Church (anglican), Montreal to Marie-Anne Maquet/Lajoie. On VonDenVelden land 1800 petition (Hesse-Hanau). Listed in HETRINA VI p. 152, DeMarce p. 114, 145, 203, Merz p. 167 (GOEKEL) and 177 (KAIGLE). Marie-Anne Marquet was daughter of Claude Marquet dit Lajoie and Charlotte Lalumière. Children : 1. Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle b. 03 Apr. 1784 Chambly d. 25 May 1784 Longueuil 2. Louis Kegle/Kaigle bpt. 09 Mr. 1786 Vercheres m. 17 Feb. 1817 L'Acadie : Marie-Anne LAFORET 3. Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. Dec. 1787 bpt 10 Sept. 1789 Chambly m. 14 May 1815 Montreal : Hippolyte TESSIER 4. Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 Chambly m 05 Mar. 1813 St-Mathias : M-Josephte SABOURIN dit CHOINIERE 5. Pierre-Frederic Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 L'Acadie m. 21 May 1825 Napierville : Marie MARCHAND 6. Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. Oct. 1793 bpt. 15 May 1794 Chambly 7. Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle bpt. 13 Jun. 1796 L'Acadie m. ??? 8. Marie-Veronique Goekel/Kaigle bpt. 14 Mar. 1798 L'Acadie 9. Alexis Goekell/Kaigle bpt. 18 Mar. 1800 L'Acadie 10. Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle b. ? m 13 May 1823 St-Luc : Julie SYLVESTRE 11. Marie-Anne Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle b. ? m 24 Apr. 1810 St-Antoine-sur-Richelieu : Atoine POIRIER 12. Antoine-Frederic b. ? m. (1) 19 Jan. 1829 La Prairie : Marguerite LEBEAU, m. (2) 08 Dec. 1845 St-Luc : Henriette MELANCON Hope that helps, Dominique Ritchot ritchotd@videotron.ca Montréal (Québec) > Hello everyone! > > While I am posting to this list, we have another family question: > > My grandmother is Celina Kaigle, who married Amedee Gamache, and who had 21 > children! Their son, Adelard Gamache from St. Gregoire, is my mother's > father. Celina's father was Joseph Kaigle, and her mother was Adelaide (Narbonne) > LaLanne, b. May 1, 1824.. All of this is well-documented. It appears that the > name 'Kaigle', was also spelled 'Gegle, Goekell' and other variants. > A distant cousin claims that Joseph's father is Joseph Kaigle, b. 21 Jan > 1790 in Chambly, Quebec, and his mother is Sophie Choiniere Sabourin. On 12 Nov > 1839 he married Adelaide Narbonne LaLanne, in Marieville, Quebec. Their > known children are, Julie Kaigle, b. 1836, and our Joseph. Now all of this is > documented thus far. Now, this however, is where it becomes controvertial: My > cousin claims that the father of this Joseph Gegle, Goekell, Kaigle is Antoine > Frederic (Gockell) Kaigle, b. 1757 in Sprachbrucken-Darmstadt, Germany. My > couisin also claims that Antoine married M. Anne Lajoie Maquet, > Now, I realize that the identity of Antoine Gockell Kaigle is controvertial > from proir posts on this subject.Their children he claims, are: > Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. 1787 > Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle > Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, PQ (our line) > Pierre Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 in L'Acadie, PQ > Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle > Marie Veroniqu Goekel/Kaigle > Alexis Goekell/Kaigle > Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle > Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle (cousin's line) > Louis Kegle/Kaigle > Marie Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle. > > I have posted this as 'food for thought' in the event that anyone has found > add'l information on Antoine Frederic Gockell/Kaigle! The cousin from whom > this information comes, is very distantly related to our Gamache line (from > Celina's husband), however, he lives in Quebec, and managed to put the entire > Gamache family together by walking through graveyards there, and creating > 'family groups' from the burials. Apart from possibly this assertion about Antoine, > he has been 100% correct, as we had the family traced by the > American-Canadian Society my mother belongs to, so we know he is right in his groupings! > What happens to our names is just tragic. I recently had to get my mother's > birth certificate from Warren, RI. Her name is "Lorraine Gamache." Her birth > certificate says "Zorene Garoush" > I asked the American-Canadian society to trace back Celina's Kaigle line > begining with her to Antoine, if possible. I won't hear back for a few months. > I'll certainly post the results. If in the meantime, there is any more info. on > this, please do contact me. > Merry Christmas! > Louise Briggs > New York, NY > _coastkid917@aol.com_ (mailto:coastkid917@aol.com)

Hello everybody, checking the mail list archives of this list, I just found that we discussed these two soldiers at lenght in August 2001. How memory fades, but the archives prevail. Cheers, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <Coastkid917@aol.com>; <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 4:22 PM Subject: Re: John Eudy & John Mellis, Leyden, Franklin, MA > Hello Louise, > that is a pleasant surprise to hear from you so soon. > I did some checking in the meantime at Google and luck was with me, > I found a 1790 census of heads of households of Leyden, Mass. > and here he was Johann UHDE as: > > ODEY, John, 1 male, 1 male under 16, and 3 females. > There is also one BRIGGS, Zadok and two more Brigs. > There is also one MELLISH, John with one male and 3 females. > > Try http://www.google.com and ask for Leyden, MA and there is > quite a bit about that town just inside or north of Greenfield. > >

Hello everyone! While I am posting to this list, we have another family question: My grandmother is Celina Kaigle, who married Amedee Gamache, and who had 21 children! Their son, Adelard Gamache from St. Gregoire, is my mother's father. Celina's father was Joseph Kaigle, and her mother was Adelaide (Narbonne) LaLanne, b. May 1, 1824.. All of this is well-documented. It appears that the name 'Kaigle', was also spelled 'Gegle, Goekell' and other variants. A distant cousin claims that Joseph's father is Joseph Kaigle, b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, Quebec, and his mother is Sophie Choiniere Sabourin. On 12 Nov 1839 he married Adelaide Narbonne LaLanne, in Marieville, Quebec. Their known children are, Julie Kaigle, b. 1836, and our Joseph. Now all of this is documented thus far. Now, this however, is where it becomes controvertial: My cousin claims that the father of this Joseph Gegle, Goekell, Kaigle is Antoine Frederic (Gockell) Kaigle, b. 1757 in Sprachbrucken-Darmstadt, Germany. My couisin also claims that Antoine married M. Anne Lajoie Maquet, Now, I realize that the identity of Antoine Gockell Kaigle is controvertial from proir posts on this subject.Their children he claims, are: Frederic Keel/Goekell/Kaigle b. 1787 Antoine Quequel/Geckell/Kaigle Joseph Gegle/Goekell/Kaigle b. 21 Jan 1790 in Chambly, PQ (our line) Pierre Goekel/Kaigle b. 21 Feb 1792 in L'Acadie, PQ Georges Gockell/Keigle/Kaigle Marie Veroniqu Goekel/Kaigle Alexis Goekell/Kaigle Charles Quegle/Goekell/Kaigle Marguerite Gockell/Kaigle (cousin's line) Louis Kegle/Kaigle Marie Kegle/Kekel/Kaigle. I have posted this as 'food for thought' in the event that anyone has found add'l information on Antoine Frederic Gockell/Kaigle! The cousin from whom this information comes, is very distantly related to our Gamache line (from Celina's husband), however, he lives in Quebec, and managed to put the entire Gamache family together by walking through graveyards there, and creating 'family groups' from the burials. Apart from possibly this assertion about Antoine, he has been 100% correct, as we had the family traced by the American-Canadian Society my mother belongs to, so we know he is right in his groupings! What happens to our names is just tragic. I recently had to get my mother's birth certificate from Warren, RI. Her name is "Lorraine Gamache." Her birth certificate says "Zorene Garoush" I asked the American-Canadian society to trace back Celina's Kaigle line begining with her to Antoine, if possible. I won't hear back for a few months. I'll certainly post the results. If in the meantime, there is any more info. on this, please do contact me. Merry Christmas! Louise Briggs New York, NY _coastkid917@aol.com_ (mailto:coastkid917@aol.com)

Hello Louise, that is a pleasant surprise to hear from you so soon. I did some checking in the meantime at Google and luck was with me, I found a 1790 census of heads of households of Leyden, Mass. and here he was Johann UHDE as: ODEY, John, 1 male, 1 male under 16, and 3 females. There is also one BRIGGS, Zadok and two more Brigs. There is also one MELLISH, John with one male and 3 females. Try http://www.google.com and ask for Leyden, MA and there is quite a bit about that town just inside or north of Greenfield. Thanks again for helping us finding one lost Hessian in MA. Thanks John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Coastkid917@aol.com> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: John Eudy & John Mellis, Leyden, Franklin, MA > Hello, > I posted the following research I did on the Franklin County rootsweb site, > regarding John Eudy & John Mellis. > I thank you Mr. Mertz for finding this posting! I am thrilled to find out > that John 'Eudy' is Johan Uhde from Seboldshausen! > This is to follow-up on that posting: > The "Hessian Cemetery" in Leyden adjoins the property that John Eudy & > Mellis lived on. It is not 'isolated' in the sense of being buried in a remote > part of the town, as my posting sounded when I re-read it! They lived in a part > of Leyden, mixed in with other settlers, my husband's grandfather, Zadoc > Briggs, lived amongst them as a neighbor. I became interested in Mr. Eudy & Mellis > because we have had trouble locating the name of Zadoc Briggs's wife, and > there is a family rumour that someone in the family was Hessian. We thought > that perhaps because Zadoc was living next door to Mr. Eudy, that he had married > a family member. I can't seem to find an appropriate candidate in the Eudy > family however, with the information that I have, as all of the Eudy children > seem to be accounted for with regard to husbands, and he doesn't have a widow > that was available in time for Zadoc to have children with! (Zadoc's > children are born approx.1780 through 1900). Zadoc interestingly enough, was also at > Bennington & Saratoga at the surrender, having enlisted at Northampton, MA, > in 1777. > I am unable to find any further information on John Mellis than what I > posted. > If anyone has any further information on Mr. Eudy or Mellis, please do email > me! I also have some wonderful photos of this cemetery, if anyone is > interested. > Merry Christmas to All! > Louise Briggs > coastkid917@aol.com > >

Hello, I posted the following research I did on the Franklin County rootsweb site, regarding John Eudy & John Mellis. I thank you Mr. Mertz for finding this posting! I am thrilled to find out that John 'Eudy' is Johan Uhde from Seboldshausen! This is to follow-up on that posting: The "Hessian Cemetery" in Leyden adjoins the property that John Eudy & Mellis lived on. It is not 'isolated' in the sense of being buried in a remote part of the town, as my posting sounded when I re-read it! They lived in a part of Leyden, mixed in with other settlers, my husband's grandfather, Zadoc Briggs, lived amongst them as a neighbor. I became interested in Mr. Eudy & Mellis because we have had trouble locating the name of Zadoc Briggs's wife, and there is a family rumour that someone in the family was Hessian. We thought that perhaps because Zadoc was living next door to Mr. Eudy, that he had married a family member. I can't seem to find an appropriate candidate in the Eudy family however, with the information that I have, as all of the Eudy children seem to be accounted for with regard to husbands, and he doesn't have a widow that was available in time for Zadoc to have children with! (Zadoc's children are born approx.1780 through 1900). Zadoc interestingly enough, was also at Bennington & Saratoga at the surrender, having enlisted at Northampton, MA, in 1777. I am unable to find any further information on John Mellis than what I posted. If anyone has any further information on Mr. Eudy or Mellis, please do email me! I also have some wonderful photos of this cemetery, if anyone is interested. Merry Christmas to All! Louise Briggs coastkid917@aol.com

Hello Hessians; I consider this to be a very interesting posting made to this Rootsweb mailing list, and I want to preserve it for our list archives. He was one of Burgoyne's army who was captured either at the Battle of Bennington or at the surrender at Saratoga in 1777. John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Coastkid917@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:56 PM > ======================================== > Source: MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Hessian Cemetery, Leyden, MA, EUDY & MELLIS > > Hi! > Here is a little work I did on "Eudy' & Mellis'--they are in the Hessian > Cemetery in Leyden, MA 9-in fact, are the only ones in the cemetery-a small plot > off the road-New Eden Rd, going north from Bernardston into Leyden, the plot > is on the right side, well before you reach the center of Leyden. ). Louise > Briggs > Hesssian Cemetery, New Eden Road, Leyden, MA > John H. Eudy, died 29 Aug 1828, Age 71 > Col. David Eudy, died 27 July 1829, Age 43 > Mary, relict of John H. Eudy, died Aug 15, 1848, Age 88 > Lorra, dau of Mr. John & Abigail Mellis, died N 18?? > Miss Sally, dau of Mr. John & Mrs. Hannah Melis died June 3, 1815 > Administration for John H. Eudy > Son David Eudy of Leyden appointed Administrator Oct. 14, 1828 by the > Franklin Probate Court, Greenfield, MA, upon the request of Polly Euda, widow, on > Oct. 11, 1828 ( who is also referred to as â?oMary Eudyâ? in another notice). > Petition by Richard Newcomb is included which states that David Eudy was in > the habit of â?oselling property and loaning money which were in the whole or > part the property of the said John and receiving notes.â? On Feb. 8, 1831, Judge > orders interrogatories to be issued to Elijah Chapin of Leyden regarding the > nature of any outstanding notes due to John Eudy (none). Estate valued at > $492.78, and distributed on Dec 20, 1831 as follows: > Mary Eudy, widow of deceased, $109.25 > Mary Ball, daughter, $24.27 8/9 > Nancy Haskel, daughter $24.27 8/9 > Elizabeth Wright, daughter, $24.27 8/9 > John Eudy, son, $24.27 8/9 > Sally Stanhope, daughter, $24.27 8/9 > William Eudy, son, $24.27 8/9 > Phebe Davis, daughter, $24.27 8/9 > Lemuel (Samuel?) Eudy, son, $24.27 8/9 > Admin of David Eudy, late, son, $24.27 8/9 > [David Eudy son died during the administration of his fatherâ?Ts estate, and > his mother petitioned the court on Aug. 7, 1839 to appoint Hezekial Newcomb > as administrator]. > Fron: Franklin Cty Probate Ct., Franklin, MA > The IGI contains marriage notices for John Eudyâ?Ts children, which correspond > somewhat to the administration distribution: > Nancy Eudy married 5 Jul 1813, Leyden, to Luin Haskel > Rosanna M. Eudy married 22 Mar 1845, Leyden, to Lemuel M. Woodard > Betsy Eudy married 3 Jan 1811, Leyden, to Joel Munn > Achsah Eudy married 18 Jan 1834, Leyden, to Elisha Wells > David Eudy married 14 April, Leyden, to Achsah Field > Sarah Eudy married 19 Jun 1815, Leyden, to Samuel Stanhope > Birth of David Eudy to John Henry Eudy & Mary R. Turner, 1794 > [Note, there is a Mary Ann Eudy in the 1880 census for Greenfield, MA who is > listed as a prisoner, age 48, born MA, and both parents born MA!] > In the Town of Leyden Town Records 1807-1828, Town Hall, Leyden, the > following marriages are noted for the Eudy family: > Eudy, Briggs Richmond p. 19 & 56 > Eudy, Rosanna, p. 35 > Eudy, Katie, p. 18 > Eudy, Polly, p. 46 > John Millis (Millish) is listed as a neighbor to Eudy, and the IGI contains > the following entires for that name: > Isaac Millis & Elizabeth Walker, m. 22 June 1816, Leyden/Gill > John Millis & Abigail Farnsworth, m. 2 Oct 1798, Leyden > John H. Millis & Hannah Turner, m. 29 Oct 1786, Leyden

Hello Hessians; I have seen the TV movie, I have read many books about this event on Christmas 1776 at Trenton, N.J. when General George Washington surprised the Hessians in their sleep after they had celebrated the most Christian of all Christian holidays. True Christian spirit, but then again - in love and war only results count. Food for thought - another Christmas is coming. I wish for a peaceful Christmas 2004 I wish for everyone to 'think' PEACE and make PEACE and help PEACE. Merry Christmas John Helmut Merz > ======================================== > A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > ============================================ > Source: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Washington's Christmas > > Thank you for sending this James - it's a great reminder. > > I'm sure everyone's seen it but would like to mention that the Hessian > attack is done rather nicely in a made for TV movie called The > Crossing. It's on either the History Channel or A&E. They repeat it > rather often. I've watched it a couple/three times now and am still in > awe of, and very thankful for, what those men went thru for us!! > > Merry Christmas to all -- Terri >

OK, the purpose of this list is the study of German soldiers that fought for the BRITISH in the Revolutionary War, and decided to stay in the United States or Canada. Some of them, such as my "Hessian" ancestor, subsequently joined the American forces in the War for independence. EVERBODY on this list has other German ancestry, but this is not the place to discuss it (unless it's related to German forces sent by the British). I am not the moderator of this list, but if you look at the postings, they will bear out what I am saying. If we all did what you are doing, the whole point of this forum would be defeated. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda Houston <rfhouston@mindspring.com> Date: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:54 pm Subject: RE: [HESSIAN] Sovereign surname > I am apologize for any confusion which may have been on my part; > You are > probably correct. However, I guessing that my branch of the > Sovereigns did > participate within the Revolutionary War. > > I just recently came across my ancestor's name, that of Henry > > Lyman Lewis, b: Abt. 1845 who were my great, great grandparents. etc, etc, etc! > >

I am apologize for any confusion which may have been on my part; You are probably correct. However, I guessing that my branch of the Sovereigns did participate within the Revolutionary War. I just recently came across my ancestor's name, that of Henry Sovereign (aka Sovereen), b: 30 Aug 1788, in Schooley's Mt, Morris Co, NJ; I found out that he moved to Plato, Kane Co, Ilin stead of following the Sovereign patriarch to Canada ; although he and his wife accompanied the Sovereign's patriarch's branch to the Canadian boarder, this ancestor couple of mine, turned immediately southwest going down to the area that we consider today as Plato, Kane Co, IL instead of following the rest who were on their way into Canada. The two children born of Henry Sovereign who also didn't cross into Canada, were Richard who is my direct line, and his brother, Clark Sovereign. 1. Richard Sovereign, b: 1818 in NJ; listed in 1850 census of Plato, Kane Co, IL occupation: farmer married Elizabeth _______ b: 1812 in PA 2. Clark Sovereign, b: 1823 in NJ, occupation: farmer; listed in 1850 census of Plato, Kane Co, IL; married Agnes ______ b: Abt. 1823 in England One known child: Mary A. Sovereign b: 1848 in IL The two children of Richard Sovereign and Elizabeth ? Were: 1. Joshua S. Sovereign, b: 1834; married 04 Nov 1854 in Kane, IL to Elizabeth Collins, b: Abt. 1837 in Martinsburgh, Lewis, NY 2. Ellen Marie Sovereign (aks Sovreign) b: 1846 in Plato, Kane, IL; then moved to Iowa, then CA; married 1863 in Aurora, Kane Co, IL to Lyman Lewis, b: Abt. 1845 who were my great, great grandparents. So, Henry Sovereign and sons Richard and Clark Sovereign very well may have played their part within the Revolutionary War, so I don't really think I'm too far off the beaten track being on this list. I needed initially to establish where in the ball park something more about the Sovereigns than I knew, within their German background, and now I have to find what part Henry Sovereign's family played within the breaking away from England. Apparently, Richard Sovereign felt strong enough in his convictions to stay within the British colonial area, because interestingly, the area that they chose to homestead, wasn't within the area the British had established as the area in which they could 'control'. Isn't and wasn't geographically, the area of what today is Plato, Kane Co, IL part of what was considered unexplored territory then, and obviously beyond the two mountain ranges the colonist were directed not to seek a place to live beyond, and to not cross these two mountain ranges for any reason? Also, I want to thank the lady who is the Descendant of Arnold Haupt, a Hessian soldier for all her help in finding so much information for me. Rhonda Warmack Houston (rfhouston@mindspring.com)