Hello Amrev-Hessians: This Rootsweb Board Message came into my in-box, and is herewith forwarded to the list Re: More Descendants of Warner Buck ] > Subject: Re: More Descendants of Warner Buck > Author: Carol Fleck Fleck6@aol.com > Date: 04 Jan 2005 12:20 AM GMT > > I , too, am a descendant of Johann Warner Buck and Marie Schlosser. I > descend hrough their daughter, Elizabeth"Betsy' Buck who married William J. > Ellis in 1813 in Gallatin Co, Il They moved to Wayne County Il and are > buried in Bradford Cemetery near Keenes. Her brother Thomas Buck b.9 oct, > 1803 and died Dec. 18,1851 is buried there too, > > This is the information I have about "Warner and Barbara Buck" I think it is > interesting that our Johann was a Hessian Soldier! Captured by George > Washington and Troops at the battle of Trenton . > > From History Of Hamilton Co. Pag.678 and 679( Book Located at) the Illinois > State Archives > > William W. Buck > > William W. Buck , Farmer, was born in 1833 in Gallatin County, the son of > John and Eliza Cook Buck. The father , of German descent, was born in 1793 > in Virginia. His father, Warner, a native of Hesse, Germany, when eighteen, > entered military service, and was among the Hessian Soldiers bought by King > George to suppress the American Revolution. He was captured at Trenton and > held a prisoner three years, and then exchanged. During his imprisonment he > and twelve others became so attached to the Americans that they attempted to > desert to the American camp, but only he and one other succeeded. He settled > in Virginia, and afterward, in 1797 moved with his family to Bowling Green , > Kentucky. and in 1805 to Gallia County, Ohio. John was 12 years old when > they came to Gallatin County, Il and in 1827 he married. In 1840 he settled > in Beaver Creek Twp. Hamilton Co. Il the next year bought 120 acres and the > last 20 years of his life were spent with his son William. He died August > 4,1883. His wife Eliza Cook, was born in 1803 in Gallatin Co. and died in > 1839. Three of her six children are living: John J. of McCleansboro, > ex-county clerk; our subject, and Alexander, of Beaver Creek Twp. Our > subject was five years old when his mother died. and the next year came to > Hamilton Co. and was educated in home subscription schools. At 21 he left > his father and Feb.23,1854 he married Elizabeth, daughter of Jefferson > Garrison, , born August 10,1936 in Gallatin Co.. She came to Hamilton Co. > when a child. Their children are Eliza, wife of George Mason; Thomas, > George, Masten and Cloid. He located on the eighty acres in Sec.27, a gift > from his father in 1855 and by his ability in business has made his > possessions 340 acres, 240 of which is well improved and cultivated. He is > one of the leading farmers of the region.and a Democrat, first voting for > Buchanan. In November 1876, he was elected County Commissioner, and > commissioned the 24th of Nov. by Gov. John L. Beveridge, to serve three > years. He and his wife are members of the Christian Church. > Warner and Frederick Buck December 12, 1812 signed a petition to Congress > that a land office was to be established for the sale of area lands in > Gallatin Co. Il Source. 1887 History of Gallatin, Saline, Hamilton, and > Williamson County Il. Pgs. 678-679 > > From Cemeteries of Gallatin Co. Il > Buck Cemetery Sec. 17 Pg. 37 > Shawnee Twp. T9S R10E > Located in Shawnee Twp. 2 miles North of Old Shawneetown on the Round Pound > Road, on a high hill. The Cemetery is deserted and very much overgrown. > Located in Sec. 17., T9S R10E. the land for this cemetery was entered by > Warner Buck in 1815. It is one of the oldest cemeteries in the County. > > Buck, Warner D. 1825 wife Barbara(Slusher, Schlosser) died prior to > 1825.(Cannot locate marble slab about 4x6 feet which was for this couple. > Stone was still in cemetery in the 1940's. Warner Buck was a Hessian Soldier > in the Revolution and Deserted to American Forces. Married in Frederick Co. > Va. on March 26,1782. He was one of the very early settlers in Gallatin Co. > > Estates settled in Gallatin Co. Il from 1821-1838 > Warner Buck March 18,1825 Administrators Adam Crouch, Warner Buck and George > Buck

Hello Alice, I was really happy to hear from you and I thank you for the good wishes. I can only confirm your statement that 2004 was a year of mixed blessings, we all lost loved-ones, relatives, and very good friends, and there is nothing we can do about it. Congratulations to your birthday, my goodness, my younger sister is 13 years ahead of you, so you got lots ahead of you, everyday a new adventure ... got to keep a positive outlook :--) Did you ever hear anymore about your Johann Friedrich LUECKE (John Frederic LUKE), the Brunswick soldier who settled in Renfrew County, Upper Canada (Ontario)? Best wishes, John Helmut Merz (will visit Ameliasburg, Ontario, on 15. Jan.2005) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Garner" <garnera@nbnet.nb.ca> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: [HESSIAN] Happy New Year > Hello John: > A very happy new year to you and list members. 2004 was a mixed year > for me, I lost my Mother at the age of 90 just before Christmas and > have been through the holidays without her for the first time in > nearly 66 years (I turned 66 yesterday and our tree does not come > down until after my birthday). However, I am blessed in having a new > grandson born prematurely on Nov. 26/04 weighing 2 lb. 6 oz. and now > up to a hefty 3 lb. 8 oz. I can't wait until he gets old enough to > learn about his Hessian ancestor, Johann Friedrich Luecke, <SNIP>

Regretfully, that would have to wait for another day as he has to stay with his group. He has some latitude with what he does but the opportunity to go north isn't among his chances. Next year he goes for eight weeks probably and that might be a different story. Craig Reges -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello Craig, > if your son Phillip will have a chance to go to Hanau, > you let me know and I can give him some important contacts > who will look after him which will make him feel like the > Crown Prince himself. > Tell him not to miss this opportunity, > John Merz, > 'The' Hanauer Hessian. >

Hello Craig, if your son Phillip will have a chance to go to Hanau, you let me know and I can give him some important contacts who will look after him which will make him feel like the Crown Prince himself. Tell him not to miss this opportunity, John Merz, 'The' Hanauer Hessian. ----- Original Message ----- From: <falsecut@comcast.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:49 AM Subject: [HESSIAN] Future researcher in action (someday, I hope) > My son Phillip is taking a college course which has involved him taking a trip to Germany, where he should have landed in Munich about an hour ago. Unfortunately no direct research (closed but no cigar as they say) but since he is pursuing a German major, someday he'll be my translator maybe. He's talking to his teacher about Hessians. > Craig Reges > ggg grandson of Johann Philipp Reges > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > For Hessian research in Canada contact the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research Centre, Ameliasburg, Ontario e-mail 7thtownmagrc@kos.net or check the mail list archives of this list for address. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > This list was started by Johannes Helmut Merz, Hessian researcher. >

That's great Craig, guess you wish you could go too. Will he have a chance to see Hanau, perhaps even go to the Evangelical Church? Please let me know how the trip goes. Bill Hawk. 4th great grandson of Johann Philipp Reges ----- Original Message ----- From: <falsecut@comcast.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:49 AM Subject: [HESSIAN] Future researcher in action (someday, I hope) > My son Phillip is taking a college course which has involved him taking a > trip to Germany, where he should have landed in Munich about an hour ago. > Unfortunately no direct research (closed but no cigar as they say) but > since he is pursuing a German major, someday he'll be my translator maybe. > He's talking to his teacher about Hessians. > Craig Reges > ggg grandson of Johann Philipp Reges > >

My son Phillip is taking a college course which has involved him taking a trip to Germany, where he should have landed in Munich about an hour ago. Unfortunately no direct research (closed but no cigar as they say) but since he is pursuing a German major, someday he'll be my translator maybe. He's talking to his teacher about Hessians. Craig Reges ggg grandson of Johann Philipp Reges

Hello John: A very happy new year to you and list members. 2004 was a mixed year for me, I lost my Mother at the age of 90 just before Christmas and have been through the holidays without her for the first time in nearly 66 years (I turned 66 yesterday and our tree does not come down until after my birthday). However, I am blessed in having a new grandson born prematurely on Nov. 26/04 weighing 2 lb. 6 oz. and now up to a hefty 3 lb. 8 oz. I can't wait until he gets old enough to learn about his Hessian ancestor, Johann Friedrich Luecke, and have started what I understand is a German custom by hanging a glass pickle in the form of a green cucumber on my tree (I have done this for several years now since learning about Johann Friedrich). One needs to have a gift for the person who finds it on the tree, but this year it remained undiscovered. I am now eating the chocolates from the box that would have gone to the prize winner. So much for keeping resolutions about losing weight and so on. All best wishes to you and the family. Alice Garner in NB, Canada

Hello Rebecca, hello Hessian and Hoffmann researchers. Thanks to Rootsweb this message landed in my in-box and is herewith forwarded to the Hessian list for your entertainment. I think this Henrich you'll find in our mail list archives, and in Nancy Rice Kiddoo's article in "The Reggebogge" 1989. Cheers, John Merz (retired but still reading my in-mail) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L ----- Original Message ----- From: <RickyMcdanielrwv@aol.com> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:50 PM > Source: PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] Baptism's of the Rev. Traugott F.Illing,(H),Lanc.& Chester Co's. > > Hello, > > I believe there may be several HOFFMAN families from Lancaster County, > Pennsylvania. My first generation HOFFMAN into this country came as a Hessian > soldier during the Revolutionary War. He is Henrich HOFFMAN and was captured > and changed sides. He stayed in the newly formed United States and married > Elizabeth WICKERT from Lancaster. Their first two children were Georg HOFFMAN > (born October 21, 1784) and Caspar HOFFMAN (born about 1787). Believe they > could have been born in Lancaster or on the way to Frederick County, Maryland, > although we can't find any baptismal records on these two. Henry and > Elizabeth also had the following children: John HOFFMAN (born about 1789), Henry > HOFFMAN (born November 27, 1790), Ann Catharine HOFFMAN (born about 1792), > Jacob HOFFMAN (born about 1799), Adam HOFFMAN (born 1800), Baby Girl HOFFMAN > (born November 11, 1801), Rebecca Margaret HOFFMAN (born 1803), and Charlotte > HOFFMAN (born 1813). > > Any of that information sound familiar? > > Rebecca Hoffman McDaniel >

Hi John, Isn't Gunther's last name Hoffmann? He might be interested in this... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hi Alice, Happy New Year to everyone! What a wonderful custom... Is it permissible to tell us the history of this custom and where it came from (area of Germany) on the list? You have my heart felt condolances for your loss.. And wonderful blessings for the new little one! I would love to find out that my Hessians Paulus and Johann Jacob Bonstein (brothers) had a custom like this.. I wonder if the Tree at Trenton in 1776 had a glass pickle on it??!! Anyone know if there was a Schnable Hessian? My Jacob stayed here in PA and married a Schnable... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

A happy new year wish to John and family, fellow Listers, and German cousine's not yet located. May "God bless - " the world. Divined wisdom and conscience for our leaders. Ron Ferry ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: [HESSIAN] HAPPY NEW YEAR 2005 - and thank you Rootsweb ! > On this second day of the New Year 2005 I notice that not > one soul has had anything to say to our readers ..... > at least let me assure you that despite my retirement I am > still reading everything anyone brings forward, even if I may > not respond myself, because - > read my New Years resolution > All the best to everybody - > John Helmut Merz

Hello Cousin John, I have not had anything to say for a while....lots to do with Christmas and then I had to get some kind of bug/virus that is still not gone. I have a few ideas of other kinds of hunting for Heinrich Westfall. Will keep you posted if I have any success. Do not know if my OCHS family connects with yours as I have yet to find where they came from in Germany. We do know that they were here in USA around 1700. Hope you and Emmi have a healthy New Year. Will be in touch. Cousin Peggy Lyte Tyrrell At 11:08 AM 1/2/05 -0500, you wrote: >On this second day of the New Year 2005 I notice that not >one soul has had anything to say to our readers ..... >at least let me assure you that despite my retirement I am >still reading everything anyone brings forward, even if I may >not respond myself, because - >read my New Years resolution >All the best to everybody - >John Helmut Merz >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Merz >To: ABEL-L@rootsweb.com ; BACKOFEN-L@rootsweb.com ; BOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com ; >BOOS-L@rootsweb.com ; FILGES-L@rootsweb.com ; MATZ-L@rootsweb.com ; >MERZ-L@rootsweb.com ; NIES-L@rootsweb.com ; WEIDER-L@rootsweb.com ; >SCHRODT-L@rootsweb.com ; WENTZEL-L@rootsweb.com ; WEINHOLD-L@rootsweb.com ; >WESTPHAL-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 6:08 PM >Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2005 - and thank you Rootsweb ! > > >Hello everyone ! > >I sincerely hope that you all put the old year 2004 behind you, >and that you are looking forward to a good, healthy, successful >year with lots of new research and finding new cousins, and >above all, get over the 'brickwalls' we all have, finding our roots. > >Thanks for the help we have from the Rootsweb and Ancestry people >who run those mail lists and Message Boards, and that their >equipment may outlast and withstand the onslaught of the daily traffic. > >My own New Years resolution is simple - Survive 2005 ! >and dig deeper into my own family history, look for those brickwalls, >and help others to overcome theirs. > >Here is a short list of the names in my own tree in which I am most >keenly interested. You may check our mail list archives for my various >AHNENTAFEL postings - > >ABEL, BACKOFEN, BOEHLER, BOOS, FILGES, MATZ, MERZ, NIES, OCHS, >SCHRODT, WEIDER, WEINHOLD, WENTZEL, WINHOLD, WESTPHAL, >and MUELLER from Altwiedermus (Ronneburg) > >I would be most happy to hear from you - let's get over the Brickwall >together. > >Greetings to all >John Helmut Merz, >Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. > > >==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== >HETRINA - "Hessische Truppen im Amerikanischen Unabhaengigkeitskrieg" >Six Volumes covering Hessen-Kassel, Hessen-Hanau, and Waldeck. >HETRINA does not cover Braunschweig/Brunswick, Ansbach-Bayreuth or >Anhalt-Zerbst. Those are partly covered by other publications. >This list was started in 1998 by Johannes (John) Helmut Merz, and you will >find his explanations about HETRINA in our mail list archives.

On this second day of the New Year 2005 I notice that not one soul has had anything to say to our readers ..... at least let me assure you that despite my retirement I am still reading everything anyone brings forward, even if I may not respond myself, because - read my New Years resolution All the best to everybody - John Helmut Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: John Merz To: ABEL-L@rootsweb.com ; BACKOFEN-L@rootsweb.com ; BOEHLER-L@rootsweb.com ; BOOS-L@rootsweb.com ; FILGES-L@rootsweb.com ; MATZ-L@rootsweb.com ; MERZ-L@rootsweb.com ; NIES-L@rootsweb.com ; WEIDER-L@rootsweb.com ; SCHRODT-L@rootsweb.com ; WENTZEL-L@rootsweb.com ; WEINHOLD-L@rootsweb.com ; WESTPHAL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2005 - and thank you Rootsweb ! Hello everyone ! I sincerely hope that you all put the old year 2004 behind you, and that you are looking forward to a good, healthy, successful year with lots of new research and finding new cousins, and above all, get over the 'brickwalls' we all have, finding our roots. Thanks for the help we have from the Rootsweb and Ancestry people who run those mail lists and Message Boards, and that their equipment may outlast and withstand the onslaught of the daily traffic. My own New Years resolution is simple - Survive 2005 ! and dig deeper into my own family history, look for those brickwalls, and help others to overcome theirs. Here is a short list of the names in my own tree in which I am most keenly interested. You may check our mail list archives for my various AHNENTAFEL postings - ABEL, BACKOFEN, BOEHLER, BOOS, FILGES, MATZ, MERZ, NIES, OCHS, SCHRODT, WEIDER, WEINHOLD, WENTZEL, WINHOLD, WESTPHAL, and MUELLER from Altwiedermus (Ronneburg) I would be most happy to hear from you - let's get over the Brickwall together. Greetings to all John Helmut Merz, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

Thanks Barbara. Forestville is in Shenandoah county. A few miles further west, in Rockingham County, is the present town of Timberville. It is the location of Rader's Church. My ancestor Matthias (Matthaeus Konrad) Will of Company 5 (grendadier) of the Bayreuth regiment received a land grant near there for 28 acres which was officially granted in the early 1790's. Matthaeus showed up there in the mid 1780's as a member of the county militia. He left a wife and daughter behind in Bayreuth and apparently died around 1803. He had four more children in VA by Catherine Maria Sivley. I assume that he joined the militia or a Virginia regiment to find his way out of the prison camp at Frederick, MD around 1782. His son John Henry Will relocated to New Market where his house is still standing on Main Steet there. Curt Larsen ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe click on AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com> and write one single word unsubscribe in subject line and text field. No other words or explanations or it won't work. See our HESSIAN SOLDIER plaque - http://www.crbronzeworks.com/hessian/<http://www.crbronzeworks.com/hessian/>

I was just checking the GNIS map server looking for an old town in Virginia and came across some interesting information to share: Forestville, Virginia is located in Shenandoah Co, VA on the map of New Market, VA-- It is between Mount Jackson and New Market, to the west. Forestville used to be called Hesse-Cassel, which is listed as a variant name. Even thought my Hessian (Goldeiss) was not of Hesse-Cassel, I thought someone on this list may find this useful. Barbara Weese

Jürgen Schweimler wrote on Dec. 19, 2004 in regard to Schweimler in America: " Let us assume that the entries in Church records were done in German writing and letters in those days when there existed a lot of German parishes in Pennsylvania. Later on they translated the church records in English and used Latin letters." You may very well be correct in your supposition that 18th century German parishes in PA wrote church records in German. It looks as though you have done quite a bit of research on this name and family. I have experienced the same with German language records in the Greater Cincinnati area in Ohio. The city is on the banks of the Ohio River and Kentucky cities are located on the banks of the Ohio River across from Cincinnati. All this area has historic government and church records in which many are in German language. As I have researched German family immigrants, I too have seen the language and spelling of families in German church records change as the 19th century was coming to an end. If German immigrants did this in the 19th century, I can't help but feel it was done in 18th century, no matter what state was settled by them. Beverly Aulick Schmitz Descendant of Karl Aulich (Aulick), Co. 4, Regiment von Bose

Hallo/Hello, Hessenlaender und/and Amrev-Hessians: I am trying to clean out my E-mail In-box and found this - Ich versuche meine In-Box auszuraeumen und habe diese wichtige E-mail gefunden: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jürgen Schweimler" <schweimler@tiscali.de> To: "Merz,John" <hessian@sympatico.ca> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: Schweimler in Amerika > Sehr geehrter Herr Merz! > Sie hatten sich auf Vermittlung von Frau Heidi Banse sehr um die Klärung der > Familiengeschichte der Schweimlers bemüht. Dafür möchte ich Ihnen noch > einmal danken. > Inzwischen hat sich einiges getan und ich hatte viel Korrespondenz mir Gary > Swimeley.Auch ein anderer amerikanischer Familienforscher war interessiert > und schickte mir Ihre Mail vom 18.Januar 2004. Er hat sie wohl in einer > genealogischen Datei gefunden. Gary Swimeley hat sich sehr bemüht. Ich > schicke Ihnen hier einmal den Text meiner Mail, die ich am 09.Dezember 2004 > an Gary geschickt habe. Gary kann kein Deutsch, so habe ich in Englisch > geschrieben. Ich hoffe es ist verständlich geschrieben. > > Dear Gary, > In principle it is similar to those information I found in various files. > Mind you up to now I have been believing that Susanna was born in 1783 and > not 1788, but now I think the year of 1788 is the right one. because the war > ended 1783 and the Brunswick troops have been set free as prisoners of war > later on. > The writing"Schweimeler" used to be found in Hessen, too, now and again, but > the writing "Schweimler" one could find more often. > > I don't understand why Joseph D. should have taken on his godfather's name > Johann Jost. What was his name registered in the church records when he got > married and when he died? > Unfortunately it has not yet become clear who Friedrich/Frederik really was. > In October I went to the Staatsarchiv (state archives)in Wolfenbüttel again > and checked the Brunswickers' files through. There are registered Andreas > and Philip Schweimler only, but no Friedrich/Frederik.Apart from this I > found a so called "Musterrolle"concerning the > Brunswickers, it dates from the time of internment in Albemarle.There are > grounds for the supposition that this was the former name of North Carolina. > This "Musterrolle" was written down September 14 th,1779 and there are > registered Andreas and Philip Schweimler, but not > Friedrich/Frederik."Musterrollen"- recruiting scrolls - recruited soldiers > who are members of special troops are registered in it. > There is the list of soldiers who stayed in America after the war in 1783, > you know, and only Andreas and Philip have been registered in it. Andreas > did community service whereas Philip was soldier in the American army in the > last year of war.So I'm quite sure that Friedrich/Frederik was no > Brunswicker. He hasn't been registered at least under this name at the > troops. So I assume strongly that Philip > himself called "Frederik".Maybe there was need for that because he wanted to > get a new identity when he married Margaretha in 1784.After all his wife in > Hessen was still alive.As I found in the Documents she got 6 Thaler a year > as sort of social welfare to scrape by herself and the children. She was > registered as Musketeer's Philip Schweimlers spouse.Andreas Wife got social > welfare,too. > In addition to that I once more checked all church records of Hessen and > surroundings through concerning the years from 1730 to 1776 but I couldn't > find a person named Friedrich Schweimler. A son of Andreas, named Johann > Friedrich,born 1772 but died 1773.There was no other child born with this > name in this time.All church records of the Dukedom of Brunswick are in > Wolfenbüttel. > > Strange enough that we know exaktly where Andreas and his Family used to > live after the war - but the name Philip disappeared completely.Maybe he > took on his godfather's Friedrich Mewes name. I have quite a different > idea. Let us assume that the entries in Church records were done in german > writing > and letters in those days when there existed a lot of german parishs in > Pennsylvania. Later on they translated the church records in English and > used latin letters. But not every translator was able to read old german > letters. Maybe this way Philip turned into Frederik. It could be helpful to > have a look at the original church records especially at the entries > concerning marriage with Margaretha and son Jacob's baptism. In the appendix > I send you a specimem of old german letters and an example of old german > church records written in Amerika in 1776 till 1783. Very often church > secretaries were not too good in handwriting in those days. In german church > records, > too, a lot of words are hardly to read because of the miserable handwriting. > It will be extremely difficult to me to find out about it.Maybe you are more > succesful. > Juergen > > Ich glaube, daß sich nicht endgültig klären läßt, wer Frederik Schweimler > war. Ich habe alles versucht das hier zu klären, aber es gab ihn hier > nicht.Weder in Hessen, noch in der Umgebung. Und die Theorie, daß es Johann > Friedrich, der 1767 in Hessen geborene Sohn von Philip war, kann nicht sein, > da dieser 1827 in Hedeper bei Wolfenbüttel gestorben ist und dort zweimal > verheiratet war und auch beide Frauen dort gestorben sind. Da der Name > Frederik aber in verschiedenen Akten in Amerika genannt wird, muß es > jemanden gegeben haben, der diesen Namen benutzt hat.Ich glaube fest daran, > daß es Philip war, der diesen Namen angenommen hat. Der Name von Philips > Bruder Andreas ist in Pennsylvania als Vorfahre vieler Swimelers,Swymelers > usw, nachgewiesen. Gaynell Swymeler-Waggoner hat ihn eindeutig als ihren > Vorfahren identifiziert, er wurde "Old Man Andrew"genannt. Von Philip > dagegen fehlt nach dem Krieg aber jede Spur. Der Name ist verschwunden. Das > ist doch seltsam.Gary hat auch gefunden, daß die Witwe von Frederik > Schweimler, Margaretha Schweimler am 07.September 1802 in > der"Schwarzwaldkirche" einen Christian Hoffman geheiratet hat.Leider ist ihr > Geburtsname nicht bekannt.Und es ist auch nicht klar, wo die Ehe mit > Frederik geschlossen wurde. > Soweit der bisherige Kenntnisstand.Ich nehme an, daß Sie aus Ihren > Forschungen die altdeutsche Schrift kennen, deshalb habe ich das > Schriftbeispiel nicht angehängt.. > > Ich wünsche Ihnen im fernen Canada ein schönes und gesegnetes Weihnachtsfest > und ein gutes und erfolgreiches jahr 2005. > > Ihr Jürgen Schweimler > > Dipl.-Ing.Jürgen Schweimler > Harnischstraße 4 > D-41515 Grevenbroich > Telefon: 02181/6 15 35 > e-Mail:<schweimler@tiscali.de>

Yvonne, you are right, this has nothing to do with the Rev.War, therefore should not be on this list. Why don't you check the appropriate Rootsweb Message Board for the name BABB, there are over 800 postings on it, that should be enough for a starter. John Merz, List Administrator of the Amrev-Hessians-L mail list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "devy" <idevy@kinex.net> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Re: PA Berks list & post Hessian List (GECHTER) > Although this may or not be connected to Rev. War, I would like to make > contact with you regarding Johann Babb. Babb has been an elusive family > name for years. Anticipating a reply. Yvonne

Although this may or not be connected to Rev. War, I would like to make contact with you regarding Johann Babb. Babb has been an elusive family name for years. Anticipating a reply. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merz" <hessian@sympatico.ca> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: [HESSIAN] Re: PA Berks list & post Hessian List (GECHTER) > Thanks, Liz, for letting me put this over to the Hessians list, > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iris Gates" xxxxxxx > <To: <hessian@sympatico.ca> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 3:57 AM > Subject: PA Berks list & post Hessian List (GECHTER) > > > > Hi John, > > > > I'm Liz Johnson from PA-Berks list. > xxxxxxx > > I have changed over to my personal mail to write to you. Greetings & > > best wishes. > > > > Thanks again for pointing out my goofy link to the Berks List. > > > > Found something interesting today, maybe you would like to comment. > > > > I think I might be related to Mary-Anne on the AmRev/Hessian list. But > > although there are some great researchers on the Rev-Hessian list, I > > don't know if I want to join more lists right now. However, maybe you > > remember what resulted from a series of postings made to the Hessian > > List. That was mid-June 2004, thus: > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/A/AMREV-HES SIANS+2004+134219439+F > > > > > > Yesterday and tonight, after leaving one frustrating research subject > > alone for a while, I was checking again for record of her missing set of > > parents. After reading about Hessian soldiers reamining in US, I was > > reading list archives. So it's strange to begin looking at archives, > > then immediately find your post from last June. But was really nice to > > see not only that you are interested in the subject but also that you > > had found one person with the exact name I was looking for. So I am glad > > that you are over that list. > > > > Mine would have to be this man: > > > > > And one more time the military details for (S#19): > > > Gechter, Johann Adam, Ansbach-Bayreuth troops, deserted 29/9/1781. > > > > I also have surname GECHTER of Reading, and people by that name don't > > seem to show up around there until around 1800, which would be about > > right for a guy who left the army & married a girl from PA somewhere. I > > think his daughter Elizabeth married Johann Babb of Exeter, Berks. If > > this is the father, he would have to have been an early deserter, as > > there is an Elizabeth b. 1782. She must have had at least two siblings > > also in the area. > > So I am interested in pursuing that. There were only a few mentions of > > people by this name, found in the Reading Adler, weddings between 1800 - > > 1810. > > > > Nice work over there on Hessian List. You're not only Admin but also > > great human enyclopedia! Thank you so much! Did you ever discover if the > > contact, Mary-Anne, on the other list found who her subject married, and > > where? > > > > Hope you can forward my message somehow; maybe she is still on that List. > > > > Thanks again about my krunched link; I was so pleased to find the > > resource after I noticed the name I wanted, but I was tired, or my eyes > > were. The PA-Berks list will survive my goofiness I hope. Maybe you will > > too. > > > > Now I'm off to read just a little more history. > > > > All the best, > > Liz J > > > > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:53:30 -0500, John Merz <hessian@sympatico.ca> > > wrote: > > > > Liz, > > > > there got to be something wrong with this website > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Please stick to our published subject - Hessian Soldiers of the > American Revolution, not WWII or the Civil War. No other Immigrants. > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=amrev-hessians > One more tip - do not use signature lines (with names) when posting. >

Hallo Hessians; This came in from a non-subscriber to our list, but because it is quite of interest to our 340 subscribers, I am forwarding it, with a comment of mine at the end. John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly@comcast.net> To: "Winter-L" <Winter-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "<iris.gates@gmail.com>; <Amrev-Hessians-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Winter, Peter - Deserted 17 June 1777 on arrival America (Hessian surnames) > Winter, Peter > > Waldeck, Einhausen; Servant ? ; Company 4; HETRINA Vol V; Deserted on 17 > June 1777 upon arrival in America, Lived with the Haines family in Greenwich > Township, Sussex County, West Jersey. Story in JSHA 1997 Journal > http://pages.prodigy.net/halschwalm/jshacomb.html > (Many Hesse surnames here - Thanks Liz/ Iris) My comment - I don't mind at all when mentioning is made of the JSHA, in fact, in one of my last messages I did refer to that organization which collects membership fees and asks for substantial contributions if you ask them to help or verify your research data. There is nothing wrong with this. Nothing is free in this world, except John Merz's help and advice and the service of the Rootsweb Mailing Lists. As the JSHA has donated much (or all?) of their research material to the Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, PA. see under http://library.fandm.edu/archives/ and you can find some at http://library.fandm.edu/archives/jsha.html and their librarian can be reached here Mike.Lear@fandm.edu and Christopher.Raab@fandm.edu (none of them subscribed to our mail list, therefore not as informed as they could be :) and I myself having at the request of The National Society of The Sons of the American Revolution donated to their new Library in Louisville, Kentucky, headed by their Librarian General Mr. Richard Austin my total collection of research material concerning Hessian Soldiers who remained in the United States of America, and is now available for research for Hessian descendants. Our Hessian Soldier ancestors have come a long way, baby! They came out of the dark and are being recognized and honoured ! This alone makes me very proud. Yours very truly John Helmut Merz (retired)