Dear Barry, It is wonderful that you sent a list of resourse books so someone knows what books are out there but! You can not advertise for sell anything on any mailing list at rootsweb.com. Advertisements must be approved first by rootsweb.com/ancestry.com/Myfamily.com. Please do not re-advertise ... You could state I have references books then off list if anyone responded discuss seling them... You can even state I saw a book on such and such at.... if anyone is interested... but the actual listing of items and price is forbiden for anyone on this list but John Mertz.. He, as a comtributing member had the right as long as he was the list administrator... But even he does not have that right any more. Rootsweb no longer accepts contributing members.... Nelda List manager Pax et bonum! Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrfly@comcast.net> To: "Heer-L" <heer-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "BarryGmai" <cbarrfly@gmail.com>; "BarryCast" <cbarrfly@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: one of 2 letters from Genl Washington to Bartholomew von Heer in the Washington Papers This is one of 2 letters from Genl Washington to Bartholomew von Heer (our Jacob Barlett member of the von Heer Dragoons) in the Washington Papers located at: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=WasFi22.xml&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=157&division=div1 I believe there are more, possibly in other Washington Papers locations, although I may be thinking of Heer to Washington letters. Barry Wetherington ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Washington, George, 1732-1799. The writings of George Washington from the original manuscript sources Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | To CAPTAIN BARTHOLOMEW VON HEER Head Quarters, New Jersey, June 1, 1781. Sir: I have been favored with your Letter of the 25 Inst. together with . . . . . . . . . . . . Barry Wetherington ==================== Nelda, FYI: George Washington msg: 'Medicines, etc., for the Hessian sick', see below a.. To Captain Bartholomew von Heer, June 1 His care and attention to his troop -- Pay and emoluments due -- Remounting his dragoons. 149 a.. To Baron von Knyphausen, June 1 His complaint -- Medicines, etc., for the Hessian sick. 150 http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=WasFi22.xml&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=all a.. Pax et bonum! Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hi Robert, SEE MESSAGE BELOW I redirected you answer to the mailing list... all correspondance should be addressed to the list.. that way all those good researcher out there can read what you write... and possibly help you.. Thanks for answering... Nelda Pax et bonum! Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Robert F. Abbott" <abbottrobl.2@cox.net> To: "Nelda Percival" <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Welcome Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:12:45 -0600 Hi Nelda, My Hessian Revolutionary War Soldier is Michael Lorance (Lorentz). I have a copy of his Pension file from the national Archives which included his wife Esther Moore and children. My line is through George Washington Lorance and wife Palexina Northcutt, their daughter Madora Lorance and husband Gideon Allen, and their son Ephraim Robert Allen and wife Martha Todd, and their daughter Nuffie Mae Allen and husband Henry Preston Abbott ( my parents). My brick wall is Michael before landing at Staten Island on 03 June 1777. Any help in finding information from Germany and my German cousins would be appreciated. I will write more if you wish. Thanks for asking. Robert

John on Johann Bus(c)h we know he was in Winchester area of Virginia in 1785 or so and then left on the Wilderness Road for Kentucky and Indiana with his wife Mary Phillips and her 2 brothers Conrad and Joseph. John B. -----Original Message----- From: Nelda Percival [mailto:nelda_percival@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:47 PM To: AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HESSIAN] Welcome Welcome to the mailing list. Please let us know what relative/Hessian you are researching? State as much information as you can as that will help others to look in their resouces and see if they can help.. or make suggestions as to where you can look. You may also find people related to the same Hessian.. Nelda LM Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/ ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== The subject of this list - Hessian Soldiers of the American Revolution No other wars - no other German immigrants. Please stick to the subject. You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from one message to another. To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L ****************

Hi John, YOUR: John or Johann Bus(c)h we know he was in Winchester area of Virginia in 1785 or so and then left on the Wilderness Road for Kentucky and Indiana with his wife Mary Phillips and her 2 brothers Conrad and Joseph. John B. ~~~~~~~~~~ So you think Johann (John) Bus(c)h might have been a Hessian becaudse he was in VA in 1785? You state he married a Mary Phillips....Where? When? Ok Now, What we need is approximate date of birth, where you found records on him .. what makes you think he was a hessian? I'm sure I have seen other emails on Busch... Try searching the archives for different spellings of the surname... Let us know what you find.. And try to give us something more to help... Thanks Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Welcome to the mailing list. Please let us know what relative/Hessian you are researching? State as much information as you can as that will help others to look in their resouces and see if they can help.. or make suggestions as to where you can look. You may also find people related to the same Hessian.. Nelda LM Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hi Robert, Welcome to the mailing list. Please let us know what relative/Hessian you are researching? State as much information as you can as that will help others to look in their resouces and see if they can help.. or make suggestions as to where you can look. You may also find people related to the same Hessian.. Nelda LM Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hi StellaP Welcome to the mailing list. Please let us know what relative/Hessian you are researching? State as much information as you can as that will help others to look in their resouces and see if they can help.. or make suggestions as to where you can look. You may also find people related to the same Hessian.. Nelda LM Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hello all! I think I, Julie Miller, may be the one to whom John is referring since I did send in a request to unsubscribe in the aforesaid improper manner. Apologies! I actually have just recently and excitedly discovered that I am descended from Heinrich Linker orginally from Hesse-Cassel (Erksdorf), who was in Regiment Von Ditfurth, he deserted from Charleston and settled in northern Mecklenburg county (NC)...where I live now, though I was born in California. My story is very interesting and amazing...but my problem is that I have such limited time!! I am a mother of two young kids, work full-time outside the home, and am trying to squeeze in time to learn a little more about my ancestry and perhaps write my story. Although I am very computer literate (I actually work as a computer software trainer) I am totally unfamiliar with finding information on a list like this. I admittedly just don't know how to do anything in this "list" service and, unfortunately, don't think that I have enough time to learn! I signed up only about two weeks ago, but have not been able to spend the necessary time to become familiar with how to use this list service. So, with all that being said, I appreciate the unsubscribe instructions and may join again at another date when I have more time to devote! If that makes sense. Incidentally, any of you are welcome to correspond with me at the dotrain4u@yahoo.com address if you would like to swap stories! Many thanks, Julie John Merz <hessian@sympatico.ca> wrote: Being human myself I know that we all are prone to make mistakes - and we should show understanding - no reason to get mad abaout it, but it has to be explained that it is not done with just writing to the list for all to read that you forgot how to go about unsubscribing. Julia Miller asked us yesterday, Lynne Miller is doing it today. This is what you have to do - click on this address AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com and write just one word unsubscribe into the text field, nothing else, Then send and this will do the trick. You will get a confirmation by return mail. If you were a Digest subscriber, just changed the -L to -D and that will take care of this. But please, let me say this - Now ladies, I am personally sorry to see you go, I know in the case of Julia, she is a descendant of our Niagara Hessian Johannes SCHNUR, I bet she has been a subscriber for many many years and has found most of her ancestor's history on this mail list. I bet you anything her time with us was very enlightening to her, she could have told us good-bye in a little more personal manner, after all, aren't we all family? So, as a last word from me, the original list owner, and I am sure, our new list mom Nelda will agree with me, when you feel the time has come to leave us and the list, to give us a little 'Good-bye' with some words and your reason. We'll understand, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Unsubscribe > Lynne Miller > Dyevalou@aol.com > > unsubscribe > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Mail List archives are your best bet to find information, try > You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from one message to another. > To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS > To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > **************** > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== 6000 Hessian soldiers remained in North America after the Peace in 1783, the majority settled in the Eastern United States and Canada. You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from one message to another. To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L **************** Julie Miller dotrain4u@yahoo.com

Dear Nelda, I just checked the list archives, and sorry, I noticed that I was the offender, calling you a list mom. Truly didn't know it would offend you, since from my point of view the expression 'Mom' entails the highest and warmest respect one can bestow towards another person. How times have changed! Please accept my apology, and let me assure you, it will not happen again. Sincerely yours, John Helmut Merz (btw I do know how to unsubscribe, and will do that now, no help needed) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Unsubscribe - (really a Good-Bye message) > Hi List Memers and John, > > I agree it is nice to know the reason someone leaves a list... But I am not > a List Mom, That to me says your children <SNIP> > Thank you > Nelda List Manager > > Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG > (this is enough of a signature line, don't you think,)

Dear John, You did not offend me with calling me a list Mom. I just prefer not to be reffered to as such, as I explained. Once started on a list it is hard to get it stopped.That is why I had to write to the list instead of you personally. Now, Hurt feelings/differences of opinions should be discussed off list. I'd have preferred you wrote to me personally and we discussed this. What you wrote to me on the list can cause all the list members to dislike me and not want to be helpful as in helping other people... No, Please do not run back and say anything to anyone about it. That too could cause problems. You can't expect me to do the job if you are going to do it...It is one of the hardest things to let go of the list you created.. Yes I know you unsubbed yourself...That to me just pointed out even more that I hurt your feelings.. for this I am truly sorry, you are one of the people I truly respect!! If you ever feel lonely for the list and miss helping people like you do so well, please come back. The list will not be the same without you... John, I am sending a copy of this to the list so that they can see I appologised to you... Regards Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Hi List Memers and John, I agree it is nice to know the reason someone leaves a list... But I am not a List Mom, That to me says your children...LOL and I'm sure you are not. I manage the list by monitoring the messages, Check why email messages from the list are bouncing... try and fix it, assist people joining or unsubscribing... Not by doing it for them but by explaining how, By the way I sent a private message to the person who unsubed...Which is the job of the list manager.... give ideas about research and keep messages on tract... I stop all arguements and remove people from the list who are causing problems... That does not say mother is says manager.... So Please call me Nelda not list Mom... I do not expect you to tell us why you are leaving, although it would be nice, maybe there was a problem that could have been solved..?? If I knew about it...?? Maybe we would just like to say good bye and wish you luck... But as I said I do not expect you to. If you have a problem, Please present it to me The List Manager... off list as I will do for you unless it is something the whole list needs to know about it.... Thank you Nelda List Manager Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/

Dear Ed; your address book has nothing to do with the subject of subscribing and/or unsubscribing. The reason for my e-mail to the list in respect to people wanting to unsubscribe for whatever reason was simply this - Yes, follow the right procedure, but I don't mind if you let us know why you are leaving us. ==One big family - remember?== If we lose a long-time member, there is often a sad reason behind it, and members would appreciate to know. Just last month an 'unsub' came through on this list, from a woman we had heard lots about, who had helped many of us. She lived in Germany, near Braunschweig, her name was Catherine Lincoln. Last time I heard of her was in 2001, when visiting Bad Harzburg for a WWII re-union, somebody had left a parcel and some flowers for me and Emmi at the Hotel. It was from Catherine Lincoln. I called her home from Canada and her daughter told me that she was in the hospital. Nothing else. Last month her e-mail address was unsunscribed, no explanations. I remember that I asked the list if anybody heard anything, but there was nothing but silence. Don't you wonder yourself sometimes? John Merz From: "Ed Maul" <edmaul@optonline.net> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:43 AM > Some folks do not understand about posting and subscribing, etc. <SNIP>> > Edmund >

Being human myself I know that we all are prone to make mistakes - and we should show understanding - no reason to get mad abaout it, but it has to be explained that it is not done with just writing to the list for all to read that you forgot how to go about unsubscribing. Julia Miller asked us yesterday, Lynne Miller is doing it today. This is what you have to do - click on this address AMREV-HESSIANS-L-request@rootsweb.com and write just one word unsubscribe into the text field, nothing else, Then send and this will do the trick. You will get a confirmation by return mail. If you were a Digest subscriber, just changed the -L to -D and that will take care of this. But please, let me say this - Now ladies, I am personally sorry to see you go, I know in the case of Julia, she is a descendant of our Niagara Hessian Johannes SCHNUR, I bet she has been a subscriber for many many years and has found most of her ancestor's history on this mail list. I bet you anything her time with us was very enlightening to her, she could have told us good-bye in a little more personal manner, after all, aren't we all family? So, as a last word from me, the original list owner, and I am sure, our new list mom Nelda will agree with me, when you feel the time has come to leave us and the list, to give us a little 'Good-bye' with some words and your reason. We'll understand, John Merz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dyevalou@aol.com> To: <AMREV-HESSIANS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [HESSIAN] Unsubscribe > Lynne Miller > Dyevalou@aol.com > > unsubscribe > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > Mail List archives are your best bet to find information, try > You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from one message to another. > To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS > To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > **************** >

Some folks do not understand about posting and subscribing, etc. When I add an e-mail list to my address book, I do this: Put a little 'a' in front of the name I give to the posting e-mail address. Then a little 'b' to the subscribe and unsubscribe e-mail addresses. It keeps all the posting e-mails addresses and subscribe, etc. addresses in order. It works for years for me. Edmund

Lynne Miller Dyevalou@aol.com unsubscribe

I am helping a friend with learning more about his Johann George Elias from the Erbprinz Regiment. I have already looked him up in HETRINA, and "Of Revolutionary Memory". Both sources provide much information, but there is some questions about his actual age and maybe he had a son....... So I wondered if maybe someone else in this group may descend from this fine Hessian. If so, please contact me. George Elias married Catharine Lineweber April 02, 1797 Evangelical Lutheran Church, Middletown, MD. He died June 28, 1799. I know of one child, Eliabeth Elias who married Peter Beachley in 1820, Frederick County, Maryland. Cindy Hoffman smoketownuniv@myactv.net

You might try SAR records to find Hessian ancestors. While SAR does not have anyone up and running with John's material questions from interested parties may well speed up the process. Howard Horne, Ph.D. President General NSSAR 1999-2000. -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi Earl, > I was just thinking that if my Hessian's name could have been changed so > much, maybe yours could have been too. I'd try actually viewing the census > in the areas you think he was in. I do know that Ancestry.com's and > Genealogy.com's indexes have major errors in the transcriptions of the > indexes. One example is in my site at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/hstry/btyhist.htm > This is an extract from my site.... > > This is from Ray Beaty PHD.. the Beatty project founder... > > A related research problem has emerged in the last few years. As we now have > indexes for just about every available U.S. Census year we are running into > the problem created by indexing errors. > > Many of the original census data pages are difficult to read because of the > census recorder's difficult handwriting or the quality of the microfilm. I > have been working with the Ancestry.com and the Genealogy.com indexes and > have found several errors in the past couple of weeks. For example, Donna > Van Zandt and I were looking for the 1870 data on a Lewis Beatty (Lineage > 1), having the data for all the other census years on him. He is not listed > in the Genealogy.com 1870 index under the normal variations (Baty, Baity, > Batey, Beatie, Beattie, Beatty, Beaty, Beattey, Betty etc.). Donna found him > the hard way by going to the county and township he lived in 1860 and > searched the 1870 residents until she found him. When she sent me the data I > wondered how Genealogy.com had missed him, so I pulled up the 1870 image > which looked like it could have been interpreted as BENTLY. When I went back > to the Genealogy.com index I then found him....listed as LEWIS BENTTZ.! A > spelling variation I would never have thought to check! > > So....Researchers beware....like DAR records, family bibles, county (vanity) > histories, etc., these new indexes are not without errors! > > Nelda > > Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG > Beatty #005 & #10; Graves #231 & #105 > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gillock/ > http://www.doodleartgraphics.com/ > > > > ==== AMREV-HESSIANS Mailing List ==== > For Hessian research in Canada contact the Marilyn Adams Genealogical Research > Centre, Ameliasburg, Ontario e-mail 7thtownmagrc@kos.net or check the mail list > archives of this list for address. > You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from > one message to another. > To search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AMREV-HESSIANS > To browse: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/AMREV-HESSIANS-L > **************** > This list was started by Johannes Helmut Merz, Hessian researcher. >

In a message dated 2/3/2005 1:06:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, agatha1@flash.net writes: > BlankI made an error by attributing Jacob Engelbrecht's Diary to Frederick > , Va. It is Fredrick, Frederick County, Maryland. It was also known as > Fredericktown. > Ann > agatha1@flash.net > Ann Is there mention of a Schmeltz/Smeltz in the diary? Terry

BlankI made an error by attributing Jacob Engelbrecht's Diary to Frederick , Va. It is Fredrick, Frederick County, Maryland. It was also known as Fredericktown. Ann agatha1@flash.net