David Armstrong <ermstring@meer.net> asked: >>>>> JOHN MURRAY, EARL OF DUNMORE WAS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK IN 1772 AND WAS TRANSFERED TO VIRGINIA AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO GRAB LAND IN (NOW) WEST VIRGINIA. CAN ANYONE COMMENT ON DUNMORE'S ACTIVITIES AS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK AND WHETHER HE WAS INVOLVED IN LAND GRABBING IN THE WESTERN SECTIONS WHILE GOVERNOR THERE? <<<<< I think John Murray/Dunmore was only governor of New York from 1770 into the first part of 1771. He was succeded by Governor Tryon (???) in New York in 1771. So, he really didn't have time to grab anything, unless it was the silver plate on his way out the door. He is of interest to us (ancestral) Vermonters because he caused a census to be taken in at least parts of Vermont in early 1771. The part I know about is Woodstock, Windsor County, Vermont, rather close to the Connecticut River in the east. Thus, whatever the Vermonters thought of him at the time, which no doubt wasn't anything good, Gov. Dunmore was a pal to us modern researchers. But, this is all way off-topic. Wellllll, then on the other hand it is a lazy Sunday evening, and there isn't much else to do around here now that the crises have (I hope) waned. Lester Powers ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

http://www.middlebury.edu/~lib/genealogy.html#sh1 No state censuses are known to exist for Vermont, but an early listing of heads of families living in parts of New York, now in Vermont, was made in 1771 and published as the Vermont 1771 Census (Vt. Coll. F48 H7 1982). Published lists of land grantees and petitioners are substitutes for censuses in the pre-statehood period. Court Records Very early court matters may have been taken either to Boston, MA, Portsmouth, NH or to Albany, NY. After 1768, when Cumberland County was created, legal matters could be settled at Chester, VT, where there were courts of common pleas and of quarter sessions. Matters involving higher court jurisdiction were taken to Portsmouth or Albany depending on the allegiance of the parties to New Hampshire or New York. Gloucester County was created 16 March 1770. The Gloucester court records for 1770-1774 were published in The Upper Connecticut (Vt. Coll. F46 V53 v. 2) by the Vermont Historical Society. Cumberland and Gloucester counties were discontinued, and the present-day Vermont counties were established from them: Land and Property Records Township and other land records before 1791: For grants by Massachusetts, 1671-1744, see Massachusetts Land Grants in Vermont. (Vt. Coll. HD184 V4 D56 1920) Grants made by New York, 1688-1736 are listed in State Papers of Vermont, v. 7 (Vt. Coll. HD184 V4 A5 1939) The New Hampshire grants are in New Hampshire Grants (Vt. Coll. F31 N42 v. 26) Vermont also granted land, 1777-1811. These are listed in the State Papers of Vermont, v. 5 (Vt. Coll. HD184 V4 A5 1947) Deeds since statehood have generally been filed with the town clerk, though there are also some county records. The town clerks have records of deeds recorded in the 1780's but drawn up in the 1760-1780 period while Vermont was part of Cumberland and Gloucester counties of New York. Inventories of some town records are included in the Inventory of the Town, Village and City Archives of Vermont (Vt. Coll. CD3550 H47). French and Indian War - 1755-1763 During this period Vermont was under the jurisdiction of New Hampshire and New York. Records of these states may have information. No single listing of Vermonters involved in this conflict is known. Revolutionary War - 1776-1783 Goodrich, John E., ed. Rolls of Soldiers in the Revolution, 1775-1783. Rutland: Tuttle, 1904. (Vt. Coll. E263 V5 V5) Fisher, Carleton E. and Sue G. Soldiers, Sailors, and Patriots of the Revolutionary War: Vermont. Camden, ME: Picton Press, 1992. (Vt. Coll. E263 V5 F58 1992) War of 1812 Clark, Byron N., ed. A List of Pensioners of the War of 1812. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969. (Vt. Coll. E359.4 C62 1969) Johnson, Herbert T. Roster of Soldiers in the War of 1812-1814. St. Albans: The Adjutant-General, 1933. (Vt. Coll. C359.5 V3 1969) Civil War - 1861-1865 Peck, Theodore S. Revised Roster of Vermont Volunteers and Lists of Vermonters who Served in the Army and Navy of the United States during the War of the Rebellion, 1861-1866. Montpelier: Watchman Publishing Co., 1892. (Vt. Coll. E533.3 V53 1892a) Militia records for some years are on file at town clerk's offices. Newspapers Dates of first issue of early newspapers: Bennington 1783 Brattleboro 1797 Burlington 1796 Middlebury 1801 Montpelier 1806 Newbury 1796 Peacham 1798 Putney 1797 Randolph 1800 Rutland 1792 St. Albans 1802 Vergennes 1798 Westminster 1730 Windsor 1783 Woodstock 1805 Starr Library has microfilm copies of more than 20 early Vermont newspapers and both the Sheldon Museum and Ilsley Library in Middlebury have runs of additional newspapers on microfilm. Details of these holdings are given on our pathfinder, Newspapers and Related Material: A Library Guide. http://www.middlebury.edu/~lib/newspapers.html Bibliography Bassett, T. D. S. Vermont: A Bibliography of Its History. Boston: G. K. Hall, 1981. (Ref. F49 A1 V4) Burgess, Michael, et al. State and Province Vital Records Guide. San Berardino, CA: Borgo Press, 1993. (Ref. HA38 A2114 1993) Carleton, Hiram. Genealogical and Family History of the State of Vermont: A Record of the Achievements of her People. New York: Lewis Publishing Co., 1903. (Vt. Coll. F48 C28) Dodge, Prentiss C. Encyclopedia, Vermont Biography: A Series of Authentic Biographical Sketches of the Representative Men of Vermont and Sons of Vermont in Other States. Burlington: Ullery Publishing Co., 1912. (Vt. Coll. F48 D64) Gilman, Marcus D. Bibliography of Vermont: Or a List of Books and Pamphlets Relating in any Way to the State. Burlington: Free Press Association, 1897. (Vt. Coll. F48 G5) Hemenway, Abby M. Vermont Historical Gazetteer. 5 vols. Burlington: The Author, 1867-1891. (Vt. Coll. F46 V51) Kemp, Thomas Jay. Virtual Roots; A Guide to Genealogy and Local History on the World Wide Web Wilmington, DE: Scholarly Resources, 1997. (Ref. CS21 K46 1997) National Archives Trust Fund Board. Genealogical & Biographical Research; A Select Catalog of National Archives Microfilm Publications Washington, DC: National Archives and Records Administration, 1996. (Ref. CS47 A1 U64 1996) New England Library Association. A Genealogist's Handbook for New England Research. New England Library Association, 1980. (Vt. Coll. CS44 N4) Ullery, Jacob G. Men of Vermont: An Illustrated Biographical History of Vermonters and Sons of Vermont. Brattleboro: Transcript Publishing Co., 1894. (Vt. Coll. F48 F41) Vermont. Secretary of State. Basic Sources for Vermont Historical Research. Montpelier: Secretary of State, 1981. (Vt. Coll. F49 A1 B3 1981) Adapted from information provided by the Genealogical Society of Utah, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. With an email address with which you could inquire about the governor of New York! Raum@middlebury.edu. Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Lester M Powers [mailto:lesterps@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:16 PM To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-REV] quotes, vermont (NY GOV. DUNMORE) David Armstrong <ermstring@meer.net> asked: >>>>> JOHN MURRAY, EARL OF DUNMORE WAS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK IN 1772 AND WAS TRANSFERED TO VIRGINIA AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO GRAB LAND IN (NOW) WEST VIRGINIA. CAN ANYONE COMMENT ON DUNMORE'S ACTIVITIES AS GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK AND WHETHER HE WAS INVOLVED IN LAND GRABBING IN THE WESTERN SECTIONS WHILE GOVERNOR THERE? <<<<< I think John Murray/Dunmore was only governor of New York from 1770 into the first part of 1771. He was succeded by Governor Tryon (???) in New York in 1771. So, he really didn't have time to grab anything, unless it was the silver plate on his way out the door. He is of interest to us (ancestral) Vermonters because he caused a census to be taken in at least parts of Vermont in early 1771. The part I know about is Woodstock, Windsor County, Vermont, rather close to the Connecticut River in the east. Thus, whatever the Vermonters thought of him at the time, which no doubt wasn't anything good, Gov. Dunmore was a pal to us modern researchers. But, this is all way off-topic. Wellllll, then on the other hand it is a lazy Sunday evening, and there isn't much else to do around here now that the crises have (I hope) waned. Lester Powers ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp