I had mentioned Quaker pacifism, and Murray McCombs replied, in part: > For Vermont, Quaker Timothy Rogers was the equivolent > Quaker Moses. He set off for Upper Canada from Danby to > settle a new world in Upper Canada. > > It's little wonder that history doesn't record or > proclaim the Quaker achievment with such misinformation > as being simply pacifist. After my morning visit to the local library, I can attest that, at least here, Quakers are neither recorded nor proclaimed all that much. But, the point now is Lynn Phifer's > ancestor, Jesse Irish, a Quaker with seven sons came > to Danby [Vermont] when it was opening. <...snip...> > In any case one son John was killed on his front porch > by locals. [and then the family fled] I think a primary question is this: When we think of Quakers at Danby, VT during the Revolution, should we picture in our heated little imaginations scenes like The Burning Of Atlanta in "Gone With The Wind," where in this case the flames are roaring out of Yankee Quaker homes? Well, for a tiny little place like Danby, which doesn't even rate mention in the index of my road atlas, these things can be hard to figure. Aha! But, there was Timothy Rogers at Danby, about the same time!!! We can use Timothy Rogers as a surrogate. I couldn't find Mr. Rogers at the library either, but he is in a periodical, "The Canadian Friend," May 2001, vol. 97, no. 2, pp. 21-22 (see the web site www.quaker.ca/cfriend/2001-May/CF-MAY2001-lambert.pdf), to wit and viz thusly: "By 1777 Rogers, with Sarah and their first young son, moved to Danby, Vermont where he attempted to settle down during the Revolutionary war. He was exempted from fighting in the military due to his use of the 'simple language.' Although he was not yet a member of the Society of Friends, people who were interviewed by the military said that they thought Rogers was a Quaker, so the military 'let me go.'" Danby seems to have been a piece o' cake for Rogers during the Revolution, even though he wasn't formally a Quaker yet, though people there thought he was. I guess one could say he was sort of accused of being a Quaker, and the result was that he was left alone to do his farming. Incidentally, he "*attempted* to settle down" because he was something of a born wanderer, not because he was harassed. Eventually, Lynn will have to read a history of Danby. I noticed that the LDS has on film "The History and Map of Danby, Vermont," by J.C. Williams, which can be rented at Lynn's local family history center. Maybe that will mention the brother of the tax collector getting shot on his porch and his folks subsequently taking it on the lam. Meantime, Timothy Rogers wasn't shot or lynched at Danby, so we can't assume any sort of purge going on there. The shooting might have been an isolated incident. Lester Powers ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.