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    2. Collins Publishers, 1992, pp. 600-03 &quot;On January 17, 1781, the two small armies collided in a place of sandy hills where cattle wandered in open cowpens, which was thus given the name Cowpens. Daniel Morgan chose to fight in what looked like a trap. He held a plain dotted with widely spaced trees in which Tarleton's superior horsemen could easily maneuver, and he had his back to the Broad River. But the Old Wagoner knew his men. If he secured his wings on swamps, as he said later, his miliitia would have vanished through the bogs, and if he crossed the river, half of them would have abandoned him. He wanted no hope of retreat, so that his men would fight the dreaded Tarleton with the desperation of the doomed, and he was certain that his dashing enemy would charge straight ahead, rather than nibble at his exposed wings. So Morgan put about 150 picked riflemen forward in a skirmish line. About 150 yards behind them were about three hundred mmilitia, under Andrew Pickens, and back another 150 yards, on the crest of a hill, was Morgan's main line of about four hundred Continentals, under John Howard. Again to the rear, behind another hill, were about one hundred horse, under the fat but capable William Washington, the cavalryman who had been wounded at Trenton. The sharpshooters in front were not to open fire until the enemy was within fifty yards, and then they were to aim at &quot;the men with the epaulets.&quot; They were to deliver two volleys, and then fall back on Pickens's militia. The militia were then to fire only two volleys, before retiring around the American left to the rear of the main line on the hill, there to re-form as a reserve. Morgan promised they would be perfectlysafe. He also informed every man of his plan, so that no one would be alarmed at the withdrawals. Tarleton came on. His legion cavalry rode at the sharpshooters. A scathing fire sent fifteen riderless horses off the field, and the Tory cavalry fled, never to be induced to reenter the battle. Now the main British line moved forward, dragoons on either wing. Here was the crux of the battle. If the militia showed their customary reaction to bared British steel, they would flee. But Pickens's men stayed, firing and loading and firing again to send two volleys into the scarlet line. then, they began running to the left as planned, to get behind the Continentals on the hill. The militia on the right had the farthest to go, and the British dragoons came thundering down on them. Suddenly, out of the American right rear Washington's horsemen came riding. They fell upon the astonished cragoons with whistling sabers, routing and pursuing them, while all Pickens's men gained the rear and re-formed. But the inpetuous British had taken Pickens's retirement to mean the start of the customary retreat, and they came shouting against the main line of Howard's Continentals. Kneeling on the hill, the Americans poured a plunging fire into the enemy. Still, the British advanced. Tarleton put his Highlanders on his left. They stretched beyond the American right. Howard saw that he was being outflanked. He called for his right-hand company to face about. Then they were to wheel and form a right angle to the main line and face about again to blunt the British flanking movement. But they faced about and marched to the rear, and the whole line followed suit. Morgan came rushing up to Howard, shouting, &quot;What is this retreat?&quot; &quot;A change of position to save my right flank,&quot; Howard replied. &quot;Are you beaten?{&quot; the Old Wagoner yelled, and Howard shot back scornfully: &quot;Do men who march like that look as though they were beaten?&quot; Morgan nodded, and dashed off to find Howard's men a second position between the two hills. Tarleton, sending victory, pursued. His men broke ranks and rushed forward. William Washington, whose pursuit of the dragoons had carried him ahead of the American line, saw the British confusion. He sent word to Morgan: &quot;They're coming on like a mob. Give them one fire, and I'll charge them.&quot; Morgan gave the order to the Continentals; they faced about and blazed away from the hip. the scarlet line crumpled, and Howard cried: &quot;Give them the bayonet!&quot; So it was that an American cheer and American blades went forward, just as Washington's cavalry burst upon the enemy flank and rear like a tornado. After that charge, Pickens's re-formed militia struck the Highlanders down, and the Battle of Cowpens was over, but for an individual and inconclusive mounted skirmish between Tarleton and Washington. Banastre Tarleton himself rode off, his brilliant plumed helmet drooping in a defeat that was nearly total: nine-tenths of his force had been killed or captured, against only twelve Americans killed and sixty wounded. Cowpens was the American Cannae, it was the glittering small gem of the Revolution, and it was brought off by an American backwoodsman, who, like the great Hannibal himself, was merely adapting himself to men and terrain. Moreover, Cowpens made the way of the ware Nathanael Greene easier as he waged his war of attrition against Cornwallis.&quot; ========================================================================= From: mary <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: RE: Fraser Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:31:43 Hi Mary , in your book about Battles of Revolution, is their anything interesting about the Battle of Saratoga regarding Brig. Gen Simon Fraser (he was Britist, but shot by an Indian Scout on the order of Benedict Arnold) who was killed there, he died on 8 Oct 1777 and is buried at a redoubt on a hill near Saratoga, NY. Thanks, Sylvia [email protected] mary wrote: The book says that Fraser had the mission of enveloping the American left by seizing the high ground to the west of the fort that would be a dominate position.Fraser had a brigade of Artillery &quot; four six-pounders and four three-pounders. The infantry of his wing included the light infantry companies of ten British regiments plus the grenadier companies of the same ten regiments. He also had the battalion companies of the British 24th as well as Lt. Col. Breymann's Brunswick riflemen. Because Fraser commanded the advance corps, his wing also included 50 Indians, about 150 Tories, 80 Canadians, and 50 British Marksmen. Apparently Gen Gates was setting tight and didn't call the order for battle as fast as B. Arnold thought he should. It says that &quot;Arnold begged, stormed, and entreated, but still he coould get no orders&quot; I can't quote all of this story as it goes on for about 10 pages Apparently Arnold became more and more frustrated. It finally says that Arnold called on his old friend Morgan:&quot; That man on the gray house is a host in himself and must be disposed of&quot;Morgan called up Tim Murphy, one of his best marksmen. Murphy was a noted Indian fighter and was known along the frontier for his famous double barreled rifle. He climbed a tree and sighted down on the British general. His first two shots rang out and were near misses. His aids told him he was a target but Fraser disagreed. Murphy's third shot felled Fraser. This is taken from the book Battles of the Revolutionary War by W.J. Wood. Mary Russell [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: AR Ancestor &quot;SMITH&quot; Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:03:02 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 00:26:39 EST, [email protected] (Margaret E. McDowell) writes: &lt;&lt; After the war, the article says, &quot;he moved to South Carolina, married an Indian Princess&quot;, &gt;&gt; Do you have her name? His birth or death date? The state from which he served? The son's name is of no help to me. Mary ========================================================================= From: &quot;H.R.HENLY&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: My Revolutionary Ancestor Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:16:05 -0000 Hi, I'm Bob Henly, from Swindon, Wiltshire. UK. Pse have a look at my page on: to read about my rev war ancestor Peter ROBERTSON alias HENLY who hailed from Wiltshire. hero or Rogue or both? CHeers Bob Henly ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Battle of Cowpens Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:16:23 -0800 Thank you much for the description of the Battle of Cowpens. I found out that my ancestor John McNUTT was wounded there in the foot &amp; later died of those wounds with lock jaw. I wonder how many men died for not being treated properly? Thanks, Debbie Malec [email protected] Homepage: (lists my Rev. War ancestors) ========================================================================= From: Don Seale <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: IN SEARCH OF LT. WILLIAM BROWN Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:59:09 -0800 Hi Mary: Thanks for your offer for a look-up. LT. WILLIAM BROWN, b.c. 1725,VA, married MARY ELIZABETH SEALE. I'm hoping his service record might lead to other information on his descendants. Thanks for your help, Don. -- Don Seale Check out our Seale Family Home Page: Researching: SEALE, BRISTOW, JARVIS, YARBROUGH, ELLIOTT, KNOX (England&gt;VA&gt;GA&gt;AL&gt;MS&gt;LA&gt;TX) RAYMOND, CHAMBERLAIN, PLUMMER (MA&gt;MS&gt;TX&gt;OK) WHETSTONE (SC&gt;FL&gt;TX), HARMON (GA&gt;AR&gt;TX) ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Will the real List Owner please let us know!! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:16:56 -0500 Hi Patchez and the rest of AR's..., No, I don't know who is the list owner. So - Would the Real List Owner please let the rest of us know who you are????? (No, its not me, and its not MHMarsh) And noooooo, sorry! I don't have any information as yet on the Baker Family (Elizabeth Baker of No. Kingston). If my health will behave, I will be down in Providence for Christmas - and might be able to find out something then. Kingston is right next to Providence, or almost... Next question - The DAR Patriot Index - is a list of men who fought in the American Revolution; it is considered quite good and is sometimes helpful in getting a date you need on an ancestor, or accessing more data about the ancestor in the DAR files (like who used that ancestor to belong to the DAR or SAR - for they have to have very extensive and exact proff that they are truely related to him. Those files are awfully useful to others who are doing research in the same family lines.) At least I THINK that's what that is all about... How about someone else in the group correcting or adding to that bit of information??????? I've never quite understood why there seemed to be DAR or SAR members on all sides of the family, and just assumed that they were people who were 'joiners' as well as interested in history and genealogy. Nancy [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Flo Dickey <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:52:54 -0800 Looking for any information on two RWS ancestors. Julian NAIL also spelled NEALE, appeared on a list of the First Rifle Co., from Amherst Co., VA, commanded by Samuel Jordan Cabell, organized 26 Feb 1776. He received warrant of 120 acres, Capt. Dunston Blackwells-Major Richard Hunt's Battalion. John NEAL, NC/VA/TN He was in the battle of Cowpens. Served in SC, dischared SC, served under Col. Roebuck, Gen. Morgan &amp; Gen. Green. Had a brother, Joseph who also served. Does anyone have information of the above RWS? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Flo Neal Dickey -- mailto:[email protected] ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:50:11 -0500 Hi Mary, Thanks for looking up Peter Wright and Daniel Clarke. Puzzled as to Daniel's not being on it. Does the DAR list everyone who fought in the war? I have it that he died in the Battle of Stillwater, so does DAR list only those who lived through the war or all those who fought? Here are some more ancestors that I think fought in the Am. Revolution. Some, by time and rank, I assume to have fought, others I don't know... Sgt/Maj Andrew Ross- b APril 20, 1741 Newark NJ, d Nov 9, 1819 Oxford,NY Robert Randall b Oct 25, 1751 Stonington, Ct. d 1833 Courtland NY Sgt Peter Kinny - Ca.1755 NJ d Aug 14, 1832 Portsmouth, Ohio Capt John Michael Clingman b 17 36 Germany, d Jan 26,1816 Portsmouth, Ohio Capt Andrew McFarlane b 1729 Carlisle, PA, d 1777 near Philedelphia from wounds in Rev. War. John Waller- 1732 Stafford, Virginia d Dec 31, 1784 (91?)Stafford, Virginia Benajah Austin b Sept 3 0, 1747 Suffield, Conn d Feb 1, 1781 Rupert, Vt Enos Harmon b Jan 9, 1750 Suffield, Ct, d 1803 Pittsfield, MA Capt Justus Sackett b 1729 East Greenwich, Ct d Mar 16, 1815 Warren Ohio Benjamin Sackett 1762 Warren Ct d April 3, 1844 Warren Ohio. Benjamin Dean May 17 34 COrnwall, Ct..d Aug 13, 1818 William Bailey July 3, 1743l Lebanon, Ct d Aug 10, 18 23 Darien NY Benjamin Bowker 1737 Scituate MA d 1820 William Clapp b Dec 3, 1733 Scituate, MA d 1807 Decon John Whitman 1734 Bridgewater, MA d 1824 Joseph Robbins of Plymouth Ma ? Moses Bennett b 1745 Ashbonham, MA d July 27, 1820 Leonminster, MA Eliakim Stebbins b Nov 17, 1753 MA, d 1836 Vernon, NH. Jesse Lee b 1741 Killingly, Ct and d 1816 Vernon, NH Capt John Wheeler b 1731/2 Petersham, MA d June 12, 1815 Westmoreland (family ledgend is that he was a Minute Man at Concord...) Maj. Russell Bissell b Jan 8, 1756 Bolton, Ct d Dec 18, 1807 Capt Ozias Bissell b May 13, 1731 Vernon, Ct d 1822 BOlton Ct. William Wilson of Manchester, Ct Russell Woodbridge May 8, 1719 d Nov 5, 1782 in Rev. War. Deodatus Woodbridge b Sept 6, 1757 Hartford,Ct. d Feb 2, 1836 Hartford area. Capt Elijah Smith 1723 Belchertown MA (?) d APril 21, 1770 (?) Crown Point Battle on Lake George, NY Rev Ethan Smith 1762 Belchertown, Ma d Aug 2 9, 1849 Boyston, MA family ledgend: a drummer boy in Rev. War. John Loomis b Mar 4, 1732/3 near Manchester, Ct, d 1787 I think all the rest of possible ancestors were Quakers - except for a half-brother of an ancestor, Nathaniel Greene, who got 'removed' from Quaker meeting, (no longer a member), when he insisted on going to war... and ended up a General, a very able one too! The rest, at Providence, I know were Quakers, and those at Nantucket (a neutral zone during the war!) I assume to be all Quakers by that time. Its a long list - but now I am curious about the stories told in my family and my husband's family! One last question - is the DAR listings the same as the SAR lists? I think my grandfather belonged to the SAR and the only way I can figure out how is thru Lt Daniel Clarke or Capt Peter Wright. How does one find out those things? No hurry of course. There have been members of the SAR or DAR on all sides of the family (mine and my husbands) and I am curious as to what they used as a link or links. (Anyone else in the group link up to any of these....?) Happy Thanksgiving Holidays...and Drive Carefully!!!!! Nancy [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: *I'm* reading this list! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:36:21 -0500 Hi, {{{{Mary!}}}} Fun meeting you on ANOTHER list! :-) For information about my genealogy research (and pictures of my kids! &lt;BWG&gt;) check out my webpage at I have only one proven DAR Patriot, William REDFIELD of Middletown, CT, but am working on several other supplementals, notably John HERITAGE, b. ca. 1740, m. (lic. 7 Dec. 1768) Susannah MARPLE, and d. 27 Sept 1817. He was a prisoner on the prison ship Old Jersey off the coast of New York during the Revolution, but is not on the list of prisoners which I found in the DAR Library and does not have a pension record. Any other suggestions as to where to look, anyone? I realized yesterday that I have been committing the cardinal sin of replying individually to people who posted queries on this list. I apologize to the rest of you. I usually just &quot;lurk&quot; on lists...enjoy reading them, but don't have much to say. However, this looks like a fun and interesting one! Lynn Marshall, Chairman Connecticut DAR VIS Committee [email protected] Genealogy Forum Staff ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Will the real List Owner please let us know!! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:04:00 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 10:31:30 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: &lt;&lt; How about someone else in the group correcting or adding to that bit of information??????? I've never quite understood why there seemed to be DAR or SAR members on all sides of the family, and just assumed that they were people who were 'joiners' as well as interested in history and genealogy. &gt;&gt; Your interpretation was very good. I assume you're not a DAR member and have figured this out! DAR and SAR are not affiliated organizations, for those who are wondering. However, if you have family members who've belonged to both organizations, you're safe in assuming you have Patriot ancestors. If you want a copy of a DAR application, you can request it by writing a brief letter to Record Copy, NSDAR, 1776 D St., NW, Washington, DC 20006. Your request should be accompanied by a check for $5 (per application) made payable to: Treasurer General, NSDAR. ========================================================================= From: emcraw <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Pension Applications Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:08:38 -0700 Hi everyone! If any of you find that an ancestor of yours applied for a Rev War Pension, I strongly urge you to obtain a copy of the application either from the National Archives or from film through one of the LDS Church History Centers. You may not get too much information, but most of them make fascinating reading. On one of mine I got 128 pages of HISTORY! Some genealogy, but just sheer HISTORY. Never leave any stone unturned in genealogy! Just my 2 cents worth. Ellen ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:04:07 -0500 I looked up your Neal/Neale/Nail line in my book, &quot;Neals of Bedford Co., VA&quot; and found nothing. This is one of my lines. Julian - there is nothing in DAR PI John - I'd need date of birth/death and/or wife's name to be able to nail him down. Too many listed to take on such general information. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to list them all. MM ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Correction Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:03:53 -0800 Sorry, I posted earlier about a John McNUTT in the Battle of Cowpens. Wrong ancestor! Lt. John McCORKLE was appointed esign of Rockbridge Co. VA milita on 7 JUL 1778 &amp; rejoined the army under General Morgan &amp; died in N.C. from wounds recieved in Battle of Cowpens. Debbie Malec [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:14:38 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 11:43:54 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: &lt;&lt; Does the DAR list everyone who fought in the war? I have it that he died in the Battle of Stillwater, so does DAR list only those who lived through the war or all those who fought? &gt;&gt; DAR only has those Patriots used by DAR members. That leaves a whole kajillion Patriots who were involved who are NOT in the Patriot Index. New Patriots are being proven every day by ladies such as you. You might want to find a listing of soldiers who participated in the Battle of Stillwater. That can probably be found through county research (the county where he lived when he was activated for service). All Patriots in DAR were not necessarily soldiers. There is a whole realm of qualifications that include...Declaration of Independence signers; those who fed the troops (many Quakers participated in this fashion); signers of Oath of Allegiance/Fidelity; those who provided ammo or clothing for the troops...and the list goes on and on. It is basically in prooving that these people (both men and women qualify) participated in the cause through loyalty to the cause of independence. Believe it or not, this was the minority of the U.S. population! ========================================================================= From: Sandi Gorin <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: LINCOLN MILITIA - GEORGE ROGERS CLARK - SHAWNEE INDIANS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:43:51 -0500 I know that our ancestor, John GORIN, founder of Glasgow, KY had a noted Rev War service. Have all the records. It was noted in a pension application by his widow that he also saw service in some of the Indian wars but they couldn't find the papers. I was just sent the following by a friend in Fairfax Co VA (from where John served) and am wondering if anyone can help me find more information on this. George Rogers Clark's descendants married into our Gorin line and there were also Gorin-Lewis connections. The Snoddy family came early to Barren Co KY also. TIA for ANY help! Start quote: Last time I was at the VA State Library, I noticed a reference to a John Goran serving under George Rogers Clark during the Rev. War. It was close to closing and I didn't have time to check it. Found a book on the soldiers who served under George Rogers Clark at the Fairfax library last night, and this is what it had, minus the amounts of pay, etc. A Pay Roll of Capt. John Snoddy's Company of Lincoln Militia in Actual Service on an Expedition against the Shawnee Indians and Commanded by George Rogers Clark Brigdr. General this 22 Day of October 1782 Names John Snoddy Capt. Wm. Moore Lieut. Absalom Mounce Ens. George Edwards Anthony Rogers sergt. Michael Faris, Joseph Moore, Martin Moore, Warner Ford, David Briggs, Raley Chinn, Thomas Bogie, John Lewis, John Goran, James Hutchison, Thos. Hutchison, William Watts, Edmund Torrill William Finney, William Trimble, Benjamin Nokes, Robert Terrill, John Pope, Stephen English, John English, Joseph Crisman, Wm. Richardson, Jesse Richardson Wm. Owsley, Thos. Owsley, Daniel Owsley, Anthony Owsley, Edward Carns, John Williams, John Owsley, Wm. Terrill, Peter Sheerman, William Hooper, Matrom Elmore, Henry Carter, Cornelius Dougherty, Robert Terrill, Richd. Wooldrige, Jesse Ellis, Elisha Roberts, John Edwards, James Sleet, Thos. Arnold Sillr Allen, Jonathan Taylor, Jesse Davis. (Service of this Lincoln Co, KY militia was from 22 Oct 1782 to 25 Nov 1782) Where would I find more information on this? &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; Sandi Gorin 205 Clements Avenue, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409 (502) 651-9114 or [email protected] Home page: Barren Co: Metcalfe Co: Monroe Co: KYBIOGRAPHIES: [email protected] SUB KYBIOGRAPHIES KYRESEARCH: [email protected] SUB KYRESEARCH &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; &gt;&lt;&gt; ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Virginia Reserves qualifiy for Rev. War? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:36:08 -0600 (CST) Hi everyone: I understand I am SUPPOSED to send a query to the list. Right? I have lurked in the background reading and love it. My husband has a 3rd great grandfather, Nathan Nichols b. 1748 &quot;eastern shores of Va.&quot; who served three months of active duty Nov 4, 1777 to Feb 13, 1778 which would not qualify him for a land grant. But......he did serve in the Va. Reserves and was called to serve in the last year of the Revolution, preceding Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown. There is a James and RI do not know who Nathan's parents are, and have been searching in Va. for past year and half hoping by searching the counties I could find parents. Nathan known to have had one brother and two sisters. Father was supposed to have been a Baptist minister. When Nathan's mother died (when he was young) his father remarried, and Nathan left home. (eastern shores of Va.) traveled up to near Winchester Va. Owned alot of land and was a shoemaker. Anyone out there in our American Revolution reading area who could help me to locate records regarding Am. REv. that might steer me in the direction of finding Nathan's parents/siblings, I would appreciate hearing from you. thanks. I am going to love reading more about everyone's ancestors, it's already wonderful.!!!!! kathleen Nichols in Okla. City Ok. ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: War of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:09:22 -0600 (CST) My husband's 2nd great grandfather, Philip Nichols b. 12 July 1785 in Frederick County Va. was in the War of 1812. In accordance with the National Archives files: Veteran: Philip Nichols grade: Pvt. 1812. Service. Capt Robert Haines Col Ohio Mil. Act of 3 March 1855 Warrant No 6229-160-55 P.J. Donham New Richmond Ohio. Philip was aged 20 years, a resident of the county of Clermont Ohio. Philip was a private in the company commanded by Robert Haines in the Regiment of Ohio Militia , in the war with Great Brittain in 1812 that he volunteered at Clermont County on or about the 21st day of July 1813 for the term of six months and continued in actual service in said war for the term of 16 days and was honorably discharged at upper Sandusky on the 13th day of August 1813 as will appear by the muster rolls of said company. Philip appears in the &quot;Roll of Capt. Robert Haines' Mounted Company also War of 1812. I have other names listed in other companies, IF anyone wants I can e mail these names to you. They are from the Roster of Ohio Soldiers in the War of 1812. ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:03:49 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 10:26:10 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: &lt;&lt; Next question - The DAR Patriot Index - is a list of men who fought in the American Revolution; &gt;&gt; Not exactly - The Patriot Index lists men and women who aided the cause of American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have furnished supplies or signed an Oath of Allegiance or many other things. This book does not contain all the ancesters with Revolutionary service, only the ones that a DAR member has used to join. There are many other people that no one has ever joined on, and more are being proved everyday. Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: *I'm* reading this list! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:23:53 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 12:29:03 EST, [email protected] writes: &lt;&lt; For information about my genealogy research (and pictures of my kids! &lt;BWG&gt;) check out my webpage at &gt;&gt; I've been giving this webpage regular traffic. Such fun!!! and SO clever!!! Huggs....MM ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: War of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:23:56 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 15:37:43 EST, [email protected] (kathleen nichols) writes: &lt;&lt; I have other names listed in other companies, IF anyone wants I can e mail these names to you. They are from the Roster of Ohio Soldiers in the War of 1812. &gt;&gt; Clermont Co., OH is a strong area for my Stoner, Metzger, Salter, Frazier, Waterfield lines. If you think there's anything for me there, I'd love to have a copy. Thanks. ========================================================================= From: Lois Johnsten <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: re battle reports Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:33:09 -0600 I cannot tell all of you how much I have enjoyed reading the battle = reports. It makes everything so much more interesting. Thank you. = Lois in Nebraska ========================================================================= From: Penny Dennis Holmes <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Adam Skains/Skeins Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:52:51 -0600 I have an ancestor that was at the Battle of Cowpens, ADAM SKAINS and his two brothers were supposedly at that Battle--brother John fell mortally wounded. Adam Skains b. abt 1753 in SC and d. dec 1845. He was marr to Nancy Turner (maybe Charner). Adams Rev War Pension # S 11 404. He moved to Ala in early 1820's That is all I know. Penny Dennis Holmes ========================================================================= From: Grover Pope <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Salisbury Battalion, Somerset Co. Md. Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:51:01 -0500 (EST) Seeking information on the Salisbury Battalion, Somerset County, Maryland during the American Rev. War. In the Maryland Genealogical Bulletin and Revolutionary War Journal, published by Robert F. Hayes Jr. , Janruary, 1934 Vol.-5, No-1, page-1, there is an article on the Somerset County, Maryland Militia,Rev. War, Salisbury Battalion. The names of all men in the battalion are listed. John Span Conway, Capt John McClester, 1st Lieut. John Evans, 2nd Lieut. William Stewart, Ensign Four Sargents Three Corporals There are about sixty privates listed, one of the privates, Joshua Ashmore abt age 16 at the time , was my 3rd great grand father. I have tried the National, Maryland and the Tennessee Archives, also the Maryland Genealogical Society. No one seems to have ever heard of this battalion. Could someone please help find this lost group of men. Thanks, Grover Pope Dyersburg, Tn. ========================================================================= From: Beatrice &quot;Dede&quot; D MacDonald<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Re: Thanks- let's talk Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:02:57 EST Hi, I sure like your enthusiasm!!! I've been pretty bogged down and had forgotten I even subscribed to this list! One of my ancestors who fought in the Revolution was Richard Pearis/Parris and his brothers. Unfortunately, Richard was a Loyalist. His brother George a Patriot. Richard Pearis' nephew, Robert Alexander Pearis, fought for the Americans at Kings Mountain. Richard's brother Robert died after being jailed in Charleston for suspected Tory sympathies. These Pearis/Parris' have a very rich and exiting history and I am trying to gather all the information I can about them. I would be grateful for any information sent to me about these men. Thank you, Dede Aday MacDonald [email protected] Greenville Co., SC USGenWeb Project: On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:50:44 -0600 mary &lt;[email protected]&gt; writes: &gt;WOW ! Talk about a response. About 25 nice replies about the list &gt;working and also the Welcome message arrived. Thank you nice people. &gt;Guess &gt;I'm just impatient. There is so much to talk about here. I think &gt;about 6 &gt;of my ancestors did some service in the American Revolution. &gt;I am very interested in finding more about my grandpa that was &gt;named STEPHEN JACKSON . He lived in Anson Co. North Carolina and &gt;I guess since the border was in dispute part of the time he thought &gt;he was living in South Carolina. &gt;I found him in the book &quot;South Carolina Roster&quot; #R5522 on page 491. &gt;He served as a Captain after a Capt. Joseph Griffin was disabled. and &gt;was known as &quot;Killing Stephen Jackson&quot; He was married to a &gt;NANCY COOK. I think he fought at the battle of Cowpins. It also &gt;mentions a &gt;General Gates. &gt;Since there seems to be more than 25 of us on this list --- lets start &gt;making it sing Mary Russell [email protected] &gt; &gt;I have a book about the battle of Kings mountain with a roster. &gt;and a book on Battles of the Rev War by W.J. Wood. If I can help &gt;anyone let me know. MR &gt; &gt; ========================================================================= From: Jennifer Day <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Who is running this list?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:26:43 -0600 I subscribed to this list, and never got one of those welcome messages. Does anyone know why? I would like to set the list to Digest mode, but don't know if that is available. Can anybody help? Jen ========================================================================= From: Darwina Michael<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:48:58 EST Hi all: If anyone is researching Andrew Smith of Hopewell, Hunterdon Co., NJ, b 1753, I have his pension file from the National Archives. Willing to share this and any other information. Darwina Michael ***MLS Online-An Internet BBS. ( Focus: Family, Business &amp; Education. Voice Support: 716-454-5577 ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Rev. War Vet from Clermont Co OHIO Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:51:46 -0600 (CST) Edward MORIN entered service in year 1775, under Col John Skinker and Capt Jos. Rogers of the Virginia Militia and continued in the service of the U.S. for 6 years as a Va. volunteer Militia ....two years under Col Skinker and Capt Rogers and four years under Col John Washington and Capt.Tow-- Dade (or Dods?). He resided in King George County at the time when he first volunteered just before the close of the term of service he removed to Fauquier Co. in Va. under Col Pickett and Capt Sharp. He served Was in skirmish at the mouth of Machodack Creek on the Potomac river. He was engaged in firing on the Barges of the British when they attempted to land. He belonged to the Va. Militia then commonly called &quot;Minute Men&quot;. excerpts taken from Clermont Co. Ohio Revolutionary War Veterans Vol III c. 1991 EDWARD MORIN fought under the illustrious Light Horse Harry Lee in the great struggles for independence. He was born and lived in Culpepper county Va., and was four years in the Rev. contest. In 1797 this old veteran of 1776 came to the Northwest Territory with his large family, his son, Rodham Morin, having preceded him the previous year, settled on the John Dandridge survey, near Col. Isaac Ferguson's settlement. Rodham Morin had served in General Anthony Wayne's campaign against the Indians in 179 ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: GILBERT maybe war of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:01:37 PST Can anyone help me with this name of a friends relative not sure where he was from or if he was even in the war of 1812 but from the dates its possible. Any help would be great the name was in her family bible.I can be reached at [email protected] Major Thomas Gilbert born 1770 died 1848 Thank you Melanie ========================================================================= From: Jan Wattles <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Just Great! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:34:19 -0700 I thoroughly enjoy the stories that have been received, regarding the Revolution. Much anticipation for those waiting for the first issue. Great addition to the rest of the lists you share with us. I don't need a 'welcome letter.' Just keep those experiences comin'. Good Luck, Jan Wattles ========================================================================= From: Flo Dickey <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:39:29 -0800 [email protected] wrote: &gt; &gt; I looked up your Neal/Neale/Nail line in my book, &quot;Neals of Bedford Co., VA&quot; &gt; and found nothing. This is one of my lines. &gt; &gt; Julian - there is nothing in DAR PI &gt; &gt; John - I'd need date of birth/death and/or wife's name to be able to nail him &gt; down. Too many listed to take on such general information. I'm sorry, but I &gt; don't have time to list them all. &gt; &gt; MM Thanks for the help. John Neal or NAIL was b 1760, but his son A.G. said he thought his father was older. John Neal died 1840 in MS. John also had a sister, Elizabeth Easter, b. VA and several years younger. I have no idea what is wife's or wives name were. He had a daughter, Elizabeth and other sons; Thomas, Jesse, Noel. I wish I could provide more information, but this is all I have. Thanks again, Flo -- mailto:[email protected] ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:53:13 -0500 (which includes ME!) Welcome to the Revolution!!! There doesn't seem to be anyone who sponsored the list, so it comes under Larry's domaine (who runs rmgage and hundred of lists listed under that address...). I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. and send it to [email protected] Anyone have a better idea for Jennifer? It could be that Larry is just swampted, he mentioned on Rmgate Herald he was going to take abit of vacation and that could have happened just as this group no long file telling us what to do and what not to do. It could be the first rmgate group for some, so they wouldn't have the pattern of other groups to follow. Anyway, with and without proper formal greetings from the mysterious powers of Rmgate.... I greet each and everyone of you, hope we all have an enjoyable time and resiste flaming anything at all! Some of real scholars, some are not, some spell excellently, some do not, but all are interested in the American Revolution and that's what matters!!! It should be interesting, informative and fun! If anyone else comes in new and wants to be greeted, how about just dropping them a personal note of &quot;greetings&quot; or &quot;hello!, Welcome to the American Revolution&quot;..... . Nancy ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: CS 191<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Isaac MARVIN d. 1777/8 Long Island, NY Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:14:38 -0500 George Franklin Marvin and William T. R. Marvin's book Descendants of Reinold and Matthew Marvin of Hartford, Ct.,... says that Isaac Marvin (b. Norwalk, Connecticut, 1744/5) &quot;according to family tradition&quot; died on Long Island, New York, in 1777 or 1778 &quot;while serving in the Revolutionary army.&quot; Does anyone have any advice on where to look to try to determine if he served? Frances Van Scoy 782 Meadowbrook Road Morgantown, WV 26505 [email protected] [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Thanks- let's talk Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:26:19 -0500 Hi, all. I'm here to tell you there are LOTS of us on this list. I really want to help, but am afraid the lookup requests have already become overwhelming. My daughter had a kidney transplant Oct. 4 and has been convalescing in my home ever since. (she lives 360 miles away). Her husband and 2 kids come in every other week or so for several days and my load REALLY gets heavy then. Plus, I've been having to get up every morning at 5 a.m. to have her in to the transplant center in Dallas by 7. So, I'll try to get to everyone, but must apologize for the fact I can't handle this as fast as it's coming in. I stayed up with it last night and worked again this morning; have been inputing answers 8+ hours, with some still waiting. Perhaps someone else has the DAR Index and can also help out. Mary ========================================================================= From: Jerry Offholter <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: I forgot to ask what is a Matross Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:44:25 -0800 I POSTED THE FOLLOWING SOME DAYS BACK=20 My GGGG-Granddaddy Jesse Dillon was a Bombardier I know it has something = to do do with Artillery =B7 Jesse Dillon Bombardier, December 20 1776, in Company 9; Val= ley Forge; June 3 1778. Awarded bounty lands. Dillon, Jesse served with Col. Chas. Harrison=92s Virginia &amp; Maryland Reg= iment of Artillery as it stood from November 30, 1776 to April, 1782. XX WELL I FORGOT TO ASK IT SHOWED THE RANK OF MATROSS IN ARTILLERY XX I H= AVE ALREADY BEEN ADVISED WHAT A=20 ''BOMBARDIER'' IS XX TKU --=20 Jerry Offholter [email protected] Half Moon Bay, CA. Genealogy Researching for: DILLON, Jesse; wife Mary Elizabeth Blankenship (also could be just only E= lizabeth) DILLON, Asa; wife Elizabeth Greer (Parents Aquilla Greer Jr. &amp; Elizabeth = Bandy) DILLON, Quincy Perry m'd twice 1st Catherine McGhee 2nd Jennie Chambers DILLON, James W.; wife Margaret Matilda Skaggs Also will &quot;Share Equal Time With&quot; Bouseman/Brickhouse/Brodie/Brooks/Byrd/ Byrn/Chambers/Farley/Ferguson/Fisher/Garrett/ Harper/HaworthHolland/Housman/Hutts/Johnson/ Lemmons/McGhee/McMahan/Metts/Pasley/Perdue/ Plybon/PowellRobinson/SaundersSink/Skaggs/ Smith/Spradling/Stewart/Tyree/Webster/Williams/Wilson ========================================================================= From: mary <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: RE: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:38:15 -0600 I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. and send it to [email protected] I did get the welcome letter but It is beginning to sound like I am the only one who did. It said------------- * DIGESTS ARE CURRENTLY DISABLED AND PROBABLY BEING REVISED. * It said that the list person is [email protected] It did not give Oldgrinds name. WHERE ARE YOU, DEAR PERSON, ??? We are having fun here but need a fearless leader&lt;BWG&gt; Mary Russell [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Joe Garcia <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: IVES Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:03:24 -0800 Hello All; Just wanted to add my 5th Great-Grandfather to the list...Amasa IVES....He served in Company I commanded by Capt. PARKER of Reg ? commander Col. SYMOND Mass. Line....his brothers, Stephen, and David also served Have a Great Day Joe ========================================================================= From: Joan Swanson <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Thomas Sumter, Major General Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:35:32 +0000 I posted this article on N/C-S/C and Deep South Roots about a month ago. It seems appropiate to post it to the American Revolution List. I hope you enjoy it. Joan excerpt from &quot;Statistics of the State of Georgia&quot;, by George White. Printed in 1849, Savannah, W. Thorne Williams. Name-The following account of Major General Thomas Sumter, is abridged from a memoir written by William Gilmore Sims, Esq.: Thomas Sumter, after whom this division of the State was named, was born in Virinia, in the year 1734. When a boy, he went as a volunteer against the French and Indians, in the &quot;old French war.&quot; Not long after Braddock's defeat he came to South Carolina, where he was engaged in active service against the Indians. Known to be a warm friend to the principles of those who were opposed to the usurpations of Great Britain, as early as March, 1776, he was appointed by the Provisional Congress, Lieutenant Colonel of the 2d regiment of riflemen, and was engaged in watching the outbreaks of the disaffected on the frontier, and the hostile red men. After the fall of Charleston, Sumter retired to the swamps of the Santee; but he soon emerged from his hiding place, went to North Carolina to obtain recruits, and stopped at a place known as the &quot;Gillespie Settlement.&quot; Of the Gillespie family were numerous brothers, all of whom were famous cock-fighters. They were content with the conflicts of the barn-yard, having in their possession, amongst other famous fighting birds, a blue hen of the game species, whose progeny were particularly distinguished for their martial qualities. Of one of these chickens, called Tuck, there is quite a biography. His reputation was extended far and wide, from mountain to mountain. He was never known to refuse a fight, or to lose a battle. At one time Sumter suddenly appeared at the cockpit and surprised the Gillespies at their usual occupation, and in abrupt language called upon them to leave the cockpit, and go with him, where he would teach them how to fight with men. They took him at his word. &quot;Tuck for ever,&quot; was the cry of the Gillespies. &quot;He is one of the Blue Hen's chickens.&quot; The sobriquet stuck to him always after; and the eagerness with which he sought his enemies on all occasions amply justified in the opinion of his followers the name of the Game Cock. In raising recruits our hero was successful, and on the 12th of July, 1780, he gave the Gillespies the amusement he had promised them, by suddenly attacking a body of Tories, and completely defeating them. After this affair Sumter had the pleasure of receiving from Governor Rutledge, a commission as a Brigadier in the service of the State, and was ordered to recover a certain portion of the country from the power of the enemy. On the 30th of July, 1780, he advanced upon the British post at Rocky Mount; but for want of artillery, he was compelled to abandon the attack. Hanging Rock next attracted the notice of Sumter. This was garrisoned by a force of 500 men; and although in the battle fought here he could not be said to have obtained a complete victory, yet it is acknowledged by the enemy, that they got the worst of the battle. About August of the same year, he surprised the British near Carey's fort. Having taken the fort; stores and troops, he commenced a retreat; but Tarlton overtook him two days after, at Fishing creek. Burdened with his baggage and his prisoners, 300 in number, his movements were necessarily slower than those of the light armed troops which Tarlton commanded. The camp of Sumter was surprised; his troops were dispersed, the prisoners recaptured, and Sumter again a fugitive. Again he made his way into North Carolina, and after raising a force, he took the field and occupied a post at the Fish Dam ford. Here he was attacked by Col. Wemyss; but so gallantly did Sumter defend his position, that the British fled, leaving their commander in the hands of the Americans. Col. Wemyss had rendered himself very obnoxious to the Americans by his cruelties. In addition to many offences of the same character, a memorandum of the houses and estates he was yet to destroy was found upon his person. This was shown to Sumter, but he, with the magnanimity becoming a hero, threw the paper into the fire, and would permit no injury to be inflicted upon the British officer. After this action, he crossed Broad river, and being joined by an additional force, he prepared to attempt the British post at Ninety-Six; but hearing of the approach of Tarlton, he changed his movements, and took up his position at the house of Blackstock, where he was attacked by the British; but a well directed fire from the Americans forced him to give up the assault. In this engagement 192 of the enemy were left on the field, of whom 92 were slain, and the rest wounded. The loss of the americans was almost nominal. General Sumter received a ball through the breast near the shoulder, which for a long time rendered him unfit for service. Congress acknowledged his services by a vote of thanks. In the early part of 1781, he again took the field, and made a rapid movement towards Fort Granby, and succeeded in destroying its magazines, and the very next day he surprised an escort convoying wagons of stores from Charleston to Camden, slew thirteen of the escort, and made sixty-six prisoners. Not long after this he was attacked by Major Fraser, near Camden; but that officer got the worst in the conflict, making off with the loss of twenty men. Receiving a letter from General Greene, requesting him to do all in his power towards breaking up the British communication, Sumter was already in the field, sweeping the county lying between the Broad, Saluda, and Wateree rivers. On the 10th of May, he took the British post, at Orangeburgh, with its garrison, consisting of 100 men, and all its stores. About this time Gen. Sumter, embroiled in a dispute with Col. Lee, sent his commission to Gen. Greene, whom he thought improperly partial to Lee. This was returned with many expressions of kindness and compliment on the part of Gen. Greene; and Sumter, cheerfully yielding his private grievances to his sense of patriotism, resumed his responsibilities; but in a short time, fatigue and wounds demanded that he should have a respite from toils, and accordingly he repaired to the mountains, for the purpose of recruiting his health; and when he was able to resume the field, the war was at an end. He survived long after the independence of his country was established. For many years he was a member of Congress, first as a Representative, and afterwards as a Senator. He lived to a mature old age, honoured to the last, and died on the 1st of June, 1832, at his residence, near Bradford Springs, South Carolina, in the ninety-eighth year of his age. ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Who is running this list?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:15 -0600 At 02:26 PM 11/25/96 -0600, you wrote: &gt;I subscribed to this list, and never got one of those welcome messages. &gt;Does anyone know why? I would like to set the list to Digest mode, &gt;but don't know if that is available. Can anybody help? &gt;Jen &gt; Hi, Jen, Just send a note to Teresa at: [email protected] and you'll receive a very nice reply. Paula *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Lois Johnsten <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: re Welcome Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:26:00 -0600 I never thought I would ever receive a &quot;Welcome to the American = Revolution&quot;. Thank you, Nancy. Several of you have talked about your = ancestor being at one battle or another. Does it count that my ancestor = left the night before the Battle of Yorktown to go home and repair his = tavern? Lois in Nebraska ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Important Notice Re American Revolution Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:00:19 -0600 FYI, perhaps the following will help. And I have to say this: this is a terrific list! :D Paula &gt;Return-Path: &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:14:48 -0500 &gt;From: [email protected] &gt;To: [email protected] &gt;Subject: Re: Important Notice Re American Revolution &gt; &gt;I contact Larry at [email protected] Perhaps because of the holiday &gt;he is not answering. As soon as I hear something from him. I'll make another &gt;announcement every thing is O.K. I'm sending you a copy of the subscription &gt;information. Sorry for any inconvenience. &gt; &gt;Happy Holidays, &gt;Teresa &gt; *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Jerry Sanford <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: I forgot to ask what is a Matross Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:10:36 -0500 (EST) I was told a few years ago when I was on Prodigy that a Matross was the same as the current title of Warrent Officer. I have not been able to varify this though. However, it was a valid rank/title in the Arty during the Rev War as I secured the pay records from the Nat Archives on a Matross I thought was an ancestor. I was wrong but I'm still working on my Thomas P. SANFORD. Anyone need the payroll records of Matross Thomas Sanford of the 1st VA Arty? JerrySanford ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: **IMPORTANT NOTICE TO EVERYONE**PLEASE READ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:54:21 -0500 TO ALL AMERICAN-REVOLUTION SUBSCRIBERS, I want to apologize for all the problems and improper greetings from the list in general. There has been some error problems at MAISER and I have reported them to Larry at Rmgate. I hope things will be working properly soon. I will be away for the holidays and will be back in full throttle when I return. Again Sorry for any inconvenience. I like to make this list as fun and enjoyable as possible. If anyone has subscribed to this list and haven't received the welcome screen I include it at the bottom of this message. Again my apologies for any problems that have incurred on this list. My Best To You All, Teresa [email protected] P.S. This list is not in digest mode. 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If they won't let you in to the DAR on his line, I think there's a society of tavern keepers, although the proper name escapes me at the moment. janice [email protected] ---------- From: Lois Johnsten &lt;[email protected]&gt; To: American Revolution discussion list &lt;[email protected]&gt; Subject: re Welcome Date: Monday, 25 November, 1996 20:26 PM I never thought I would ever receive a &quot;Welcome to the American Revolution&quot;. Thank you, Nancy. Several of you have talked about your ancestor being at one battle or another. Does it count that my ancestor left the night before the Battle of Yorktown to go home and repair his tavern? Lois in Nebraska ---------- ========================================================================= From: Ed Crump <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:02:21 -0600 To Mary Marshall and the list: I believe my ancestor, John Bushrod Crump, is the same as the &quot;John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER&quot; who was involved in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse in North Carolina, March 15, 1781. I am familiar with the battle. Gen. Green was opposed by Cornwallis, and although Cornwallis &quot;took the day&quot; he was so beaten that after he retreated to the coast and worked his way back to Yorktown he was surrounded and had to surrender just a few months later. About 35 years ago a distant relative, Katie MacAulay Rankin, applied for a &quot;Supp;emental Line&quot; through the DAR for John Crump and I believe it was approved on March 13, 1961. I believe my relatives National Number was 293918. There was also a reference to a National No. 203951. I'm not sure what these numbers mean.

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