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    2. &quot;consistant&quot; with the dates on our records, but research in the '70's until recently have them more exact, but within the &quot;ranges&quot; of the information that was apparently presented originally. Additionally, John's wife's dates of birth and death, along with those of his children are correct...John's brother James, was in charge of the North Carolina Militia until his death in 1800, when he was succeeded by his son, John Bushrod Crump, II. John is burried in NC in Montgomery county mear the narrows on the East Side of the Yadkin (Pee Dee) River, in what is now the Baden Lake Area of the Uwharrie National Forest. My question is: was he, in fact, approved, and is there any information on what unit he was in or what his military service was? All I have been told is that he was assigned to General Green, and was in that battle. John was from Virginia, and we think that he migrated to North Carolina in about 1777. Thats when he sold his land in Virginia. Finally, John was a public servant. He was what was called an &quot;Entry Taker&quot;, which translates to a Clerk of Court, or thereabouts. And another reference source tells me that he was recorded as &quot;John Crump, E.T. was a Revolutionary Soldier in the State of Virginia. See Vol 9 Page 82. Also see War Department.&quot; Was he a Virginia or North Carolina troop? If these numbers, etc. are a part of DAR's records, I would LOVE to have some documentation of it. Can I get copies - how? Ed in Louisiana - working on Crumps from 1619 - 1800! ========================================================================= From: Chet Swanson <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:06:00 At 06:53 PM 11/25/96 -0500, Nancy Whitman wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt;I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... &gt;SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. &gt; &gt;and send it to [email protected] &gt; &gt;Anyone have a better idea for Jennifer? &gt; Actually, if the digest is working for this list the actual command is: set american-revolution digest and it is sent to [email protected] However, due to problems with the maiser program a lot of the lists will not work in the digest mode Chet -- C. V. (Chet) Swanson Jr. Everett, WA mailto:[email protected] ***PLEASE, NO LONG FILES WITHOUT ASKING FIRST*** ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: . Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:56:48 -0500 SUB AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ========================================================================= From: Reuben Robertson <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:38:33 -0800 How do the qualifications for NSDAR membership differ from those of the Sons of the American Revolution -- other than the applicant's gender? There is also a Sons of the Revolution organization, which I take it is distinct form the Sons of the American Revolution -- can anyone provide info about that group, its membership qualifications, and its interests and activities? Reuben Robertson [email protected] wrote: &gt; &gt; DAR only has those Patriots used by DAR members. That leaves a whole &gt; kajillion Patriots who were involved who are NOT in the Patriot Index. New &gt; Patriots are being proven every day by ladies such as you. &gt; &gt; You might want to find a listing of soldiers who participated in the Battle &gt; of Stillwater. That can probably be found through county research (the &gt; county where he lived when he was activated for service). &gt; &gt; All Patriots in DAR were not necessarily soldiers. There is a whole realm of &gt; qualifications that include...Declaration of Independence signers; those who &gt; fed the troops (many Quakers participated in this fashion); signers of Oath &gt; of Allegiance/Fidelity; those who provided ammo or clothing for the &gt; troops...and the list goes on and on. It is basically in prooving that these &gt; people (both men and women qualify) participated in the cause through loyalty &gt; to the cause of independence. Believe it or not, this was the minority of &gt; the U.S. population! ========================================================================= From: Frances L VanScoy<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: unsubscribe american-revolution Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:43:29 -0500 unsubscribe american-revolution ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Matross Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:10:28 -0500 According to A TO ZAX by Barbara Jean Evans matross was a private in the army who aided the artillery gunners to load, fire, sponge, etc. the guns. ========================================================================= From: &quot;John G. West&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:19:32 -0600 A great little booklet on the Battle of Guildford Courthouse by Hugh F. Rankin entitled: Greene and Cornwallis: The Campaign in the Carolinas, (Raleigh 1976), copyright, 1976, Department of Cultural Resources, Division of Archives &amp; History [paperback, 86 pages - price $2.00 1981]. From what I read in this book is that this battle led to Cornwallis' surrender. As Cornwallis and his troops retreated, he demanded food, clothing &amp; other provisions from the farmers along the way. These farmers gave little or no provisions as they hid what they had. Then as Greene came through they gave material aide to him and his troops. My ancestor, Thomas West, planter of Chatham Co., NC was one of these farmers. It has been said that Cornwallis basically surrendered due to the lack of supplies and provisions for his army. Farmers like Thomas West made that possible. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ========================================================================= From: Julie Forrest <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: SET NO MAIL Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:26:10 -0800 Hi all... I'm going to need to set no mail for a few days... I'm sure that I'm not alone as many people will be gone/or taking a break for a few days. My question is this... after I am ready to resume... can I get any of the mail or at least the digests from the previous few days??? Hate to miss whats going on... JUlie -- Julie Forrest | Dynamic System Solutions, Inc. [email protected] | (770) 887-5925 http://www.dss-inc.com | (770) 887-2196 fax. ========================================================================= From: Julie Forrest <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Looking for: Wohlfarth/Wolford Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:48:14 -0800 Hi again... I am looking for Revolutionary War service for the sons of a certain family... Their fathers surname was Wohlfarth and the sons have referred to themselves as Wolford in later land records... Before the war, they were in Philadelphia County, PA and after the war they were around Bedford County, PA, both of which are on the Maryland border. Also not far from VA. Their names are: John Wolford/Wohlfarth Godfrey Wolford/Wohlfarth Frederick Wolford/Wohlfarth Moses Wolford/Wohlfarth I did find a reference on CD 146 for a Frederick Wolford; Private, Smith's Company, 2nd US Levies (Reg. Army), Lt. Col. Gibson, 1791-1792, N.F.I. Does the above mean anything to anybody??? Julie -- Julie Forrest | Dynamic System Solutions, Inc. [email protected] | (770) 887-5925 http://www.dss-inc.com | (770) 887-2196 fax. ========================================================================= From: Ken/Nancy Pascal <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:55:14 -0800 UNSUB AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ========================================================================= From: Keith A McGuire <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: 2nd Virginia Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:00:48 -0500 Good Morning All, Does anyone have information or sources for the following: Capt. CHRISTIAN'S Co. of Regulars of the 2nd Va. Regt. in the year 1760, commanded by Capt. Wm.BYRD. Searching for the soldier James McGuire of this Regiment. Thanks for the help. Keith McGuire [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Roberts, Broughton, Lemasters, and Brown Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:24:51 +0200 (EET) I am looking for information regarding: Cornelious Roberts (b. ca 1744 - d. 24 Jun 1788) m. Mary Ellen Benton (?) Job Broughton (b. 30 Oct 1755) m. Elizabeth Benjamin Lematers (b. 15 Jun 1756 - d. 16 Dec 1837) m. Rebecca Ann Martin William Brown, Jr. (b. 20 May 1730 - d. 5 Dec 1803) m. Jane Doak Does anyone have any information other than what is stated above? Thank you. BJ Hillier ========================================================================= From: Margaret L Edwards<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Benjamin Grayson Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:24:42 EST This was sent to me by Terry &amp; Martha Lawson, being cousins of my on my Grayson line. Thought you might enjoy it. Any Graysons descendants that might want to help contact the person listed below. Maggie Graysons, Belle Air Prince William County, Virginia The hill rises above the surrounding terrain, a quiet verdant island in the heart of densely developed Marumsco Hills near Woodbridge. There are almost five acres, isolated from the surrounding neighborhoods by a thick perimeter of trees. From the level hilltop, one can see the Potomac to the south, and, on a clear day, the Maryland shore. It is a place where congregations gather for Easter sunrise services. At the top of this prominent hill near the center of his plantation, Benjamin Grayson established his home, Belle Air. Benjamins children were raised here and some buried here along with others of the family. From this place, the Graysons made their contributions as frontier planters and merchants, as leaders in early political thinking, as officers in the revolution , as a framer of our Constitution and as a first United States Senator from Virginia. Today, a handsome old home, built on the foundations of the original, occupies the hilltop. The original structure was destroyed in the War Between the States. Nearby on the hillside, is the Grayson burial vault built =93. . .in the style of the old vault at Mt. Vernon.=94 Bronze plaques have been affixed by the DAR. The present owner and resident for many years has been a wonderful steward of the site. Now the time has come for her to leave, and the property is offered for sale. The most likely use is development into building lots, according to the real estate sales agent. This rare piece of American heritage would then be lost for all time. A small group of Grayson descendants in Georgia, along with a growing number of friends in Virginia and Prince William, have begun a movement to save =93Belle Air.=94 The vision is to create a public cultural resource for the study and the interpretation of the key roles played by early citizens of Old Prince William in the history of colonial Virginia, revolutionary America and early American government. Inclusion of the visual arts, literature and trades of the period is contemplated.. Those wishing more information and periodic status reports are invited to contact Leigh C. Havle at 703-369-4677. Benjamin Grayson, born about 1684, may have arrived in Prince William as early as 1715. In his eulogy, the Reverend Mr. Scott said of Benjamin, =93=He had come into the county from the lower parts of Virginia, his broad ax on his shoulder, that his industry and good management, his being executor to some good estates and his marrying a rich widow, had enabled him to acquire a large estate. Benjamin established himself as a successful merchant. He acquired a large bakery at Occoquan from which biscuits=94 were distributed throughout the frontier, and he accumulated large land holdings. He served as a colonel of local militia. Benjamin did marry a rich widow, in fact, two of them. First, Susanna Monroe, the widow of William Linton and of Charles Tyler. Susanna would be the aunt of James Monroe, fifth President of the United States. After Susannas death in 1752, Benjamin married the Widow Ewell. There were four children, all by Susanna Monroe; Benjamin, Spence, William and Susanna. Benjamin Grayson died in 1757 and was buried at Belle Air. Benjamin Grayson was closely associated with the Lee, Fairfax, Carter, and Washington families of the neighborhood. These business, social and political connections were an important legacy to his children who continued these family associations throughout the tumultuous years of their lives and the birth of a new nation. Benjamin Grayson ,the second, continued his fathers business at Colchester. An able merchant, he prospered and expanded into new ventures. He added additional lots in Colchester to those inherited from his father. He acquired Belmont, the thousand acre Mason Neck plantation. Young Benjamin involved himself in development of a flour mill, bakery and store on the Occoquan, the construction of a new tobacco warehouse in Colchester and even a commercial winery. He became a justice of the Fairfax Court in 1763. Debt accumulated as a result of these ventures, and in 1765 and 1766 his creditors were foreclosing or forcing the sale of his holdings. Benjamin and his wife Elizabeth left for Loudoun County to begin anew. He died in 1768, leaving Elizabeth in a comfortable condition. She, in turn, left a son and a daughter with what has been described as a handsome estate. Spence Monroe Grayson , born 1734, inherited his fathers Belle Air Educated in England, Spence returned to Prince William and applied himself to the affairs of Belle Air. He was quite successful at Belle Air. Then at mid-life, he went again to England to study theology, returning home in 1771 as the Reverend Spence Grayson. He served as rector of Cameron Parish and then of Dettingen Parish in Prince William. Spence was active in events foreshadowing the Revolution, and he served in that war with the rank of Captain as Chaplain of Graysons Additional Regiment, a unit named for his brother William. He was . .a fighting as well as a praying parson, according to his son-in-law Lund Washington. A life-long friend of George Washington, Reverend Grayson was asked by the General to officiate at the marriage of Washingtons nephew, George Augustine Washington, at Mount Vernon. Spence married Mary Elizabeth Wagener and they had seventeen children. Spence Grayson died in 1798 and was buried at Belle Air. William Grayson , born 1736, was educated at the College of Philadelphia and in England at Oxford where he graduated. He then studied law at the Temple in London. Returning to Prince William, he settled at Dumfries and had established a successful law practice before he was thirty. He was a leader in the rebellious events of the day; a signer of the Leedstown Resolution, elected to the committee of correspondence, and later chosen Captain of Prince Williams-and Virginias-first company of minutemen. He was among those who served on the Committee of Safety for Prince William. When fighting began, he was appointed assistant secretary to George Washington. Two months later he was the Generals aide-de-camp. William was with Washington at Valley Forge, had attained the rank of colonel, and fought in the battles of Long Island, White Plaines, Brandywine and Germantown. Colonel Grayson distinguished himself at Monmouth in command of his regiments and attached brigades. He was elected to the Continental Congress in 1784 after the successful conclusion of the war. He was president of that Congress in 1788. He served with distinction, and is credited with the successful passage of the Northwest Ordinance, setting the course for the new nations westward expansion. He was sent the same year to the Virginia Convention called to consider the new Constitution of the United States which he had helped to create. Grayson stood with Patrick Henry in opposing a strong central government with its threats to the freedom of individuals, and he was concerned that domination of such a government by the northern states majority would lead to domination of the southern states and to future conflict. Through their opposition, these antifederalists were able to negotiate the amendments that we know as the Bill of Rights that protect the rights of individuals from an overly powerful government. William Grayson was one of the first two United States Senators elected from Virginia. The other was Henry Richard Lee. The concerns of Grayson, Henry and their associates are now considered prophetic in light of subsequent events that culminated in the great tragedy of the War Between the States. William married Eleanor Smallwood. There were four sons and a daughter. William Grayson died in 1790 and was buried at Belle Air. Susanna Monroe Grayson, born about 1745, was the only daughter of Benjamin and Susanna Monroe Grayson. She is described as . . . a great beauty and an heiress. Susannah married John Orr, the Scottish Merchant. They made their home at Leedstown on the Rappahannock. ***end*** The Grayson Family of Georgia John Robinson Grayson was born 1779 at his fathers plantation, Belle Air, in Prince William County, Virginia, He was the son of Reverend Spence Monroe Grayson and Mary Elizabeth Wagener. John was one of seventeen children that included his twin brother Thomas Robinson Grayson. Great Britain, ever resentful of the colonies rebellion, continued to devise provocations. Among these was a self-proclaimed right to detain American vessels on the high seas for the purpose of boarding and searching for British citizens. The Royal Navy was not above removing Americans from these ships as there was always need for hands aboard their own. It was in this manner that the boy John Robinson Grayson was impressed by the Royal Navy from the Brig Polly belonging to his brother-in-law Lund Washington and sailing out of the Occoquan. Johns twin brother Thomas was later impressed from the same vessel. John was held for several years by the British before his release was negotiated by the American government. John was twenty-one when released in 1800. The fate of Thomas is unknown. It appears that John took full advantage of his time with the Royal Navy and became a competent seaman. He was a Sailing Master with the rank of captain when the U.S. Navy ordered him to Georgia in the War of 1812. Captain Grayson commanded a squadron of gunboats stationed at St. Marys to patrol the Georgia coast. He resigned his commission when hostilities ended. John elected to remain in Georgia, settled in Savannah and took command of the Liverpool Packet sailing from Savannah and Charleston to Liverpool England. A son was born in Liverpool, the result of a pregnant Mrs. Grayson making the crossing with John. When Johns health began to fail, he took a position with the U.S. Customs House in Savannah. It was written of John, He possessed rare cultivation and refinement, brave as a lion, gentle as a woman, a skillful and intrepid seaman, a polished gentleman and a gallant officer. John Robinson Grayson married Frances Ann Harvey of Charleston in 1816. There were three children; John Langdon, Albert G. and Frances Lucretia. John died in 1822 at age forty-two. He was buried at old Colonial Cemetery in Savannah, but the family plot was moved in 1853 to the new Laural Grove Cemetery. The ravages of time, weather and Union soldiers have taken their toll of his impressive monument, and the grave is unmarked for now. The descendants of John Robinson Grayson will be found today along the southern coast at Charleston in South Carolina; Savannah, Brunswick and Woodbine in Georgia and in Jacksonville, Florida. ***end*** ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Look Ups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:25:52 +0200 (EET) Hi. Is there anyone out there that can do look ups in &quot;the index?&quot; I have several men that I would like to look up. Thank you. BJ ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Broughton - OOPS Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:26:54 +0200 (EET) Sorry folks, I have Job marrying his mother! Job Broughton married Mary Lewis. I apologize. Thanks - bj in Turkey ========================================================================= From: &quot;Larry Stephens&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: The WELCOME Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:45:33 GMT-0500 (EST) Most (or all) of you didn't get the welcome message when you signed on. This was due to an error in how I had it set up. Here it is: WELCOME to the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list. ************* There is a lot of important information in this message, including general information about lists as well as specific information about this list. I'll be glad to help you if you have problems, but I'll also be frank: If you don't have time to read this message and learn the proper way to use lists, you shouldn't be subscribed. Please take just a few minutes to read this message. Keep it so you can refer to it later. ************* SOME PROBLEMS WITH SOFTWARE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED. 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Send this command to [email protected] SEND FILELIST and then carefully follow the instructions in that file. **** Larry Stephens ([email protected]) Indiana University Office of Risk Management 400 E. 7th Room 705, Bloomington, IN 47405 812-855-9758 ========================================================================= From: jasgrob<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Dunmore's War 1774 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:23:07 -0800 A good source of the soldier's on the payrolls at Romney and Winchester is Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck's book &quot;Virginia's Colonial Soldiers&quot;. These abstracts were taken form records at the Virginia State Archives and from the Draper Manuscripts at the Wisconsin State Historical Society. For example: On page 139, John GOREN is listed as being on Capt. William Hancher's Roll. Jim -- James G. Robertson 112 Northwood Place Mabank, TX 75147-9014 ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR Info Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:38:51 -0500 Dear Nancy; The DAR Patriot Index lists those (men and women) who aided the cause of American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have provided supplies, signed an Oath of Allegiance, or MANY other things. Only those are listed that are ancestors of DAR members. Just because your ancestor is not in the book does not mean he/she did not have service. In fact more abcestors are added to the list all the time, the the Patriot Index has to be revised. The latest edition was published in 1990 (3-volume set). New ancestors are published 4 times a year in the DAR Magazine. You can order the Patriot Index for $75 and the magazine is $12 per year. Just write to DAR at 1776 D Street, NW, Washington, DC 20006. Just because your ancestors were Quakers, they could have supported the cause by providing supplies, etc. That would make them a Patriot. The DAR and SAR are not the same. There is an SAR Home Page at http://www.sar.org.~carroll. Check it out. Another thing to remember in the past DAR and SAR did not ask for much proof/documentation. There were not as many generations back to the Revolutionary War. As time has past more and more documentation is required. Also many errors were found in the lines. So just because grandmother or grandpa were members, that do not mean you can get in. Good luck. Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:20:56 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-26 02:30:43 EST, [email protected] (Ed Crump) writes: &lt;&lt; If these numbers, etc. are a part of DAR's records, I would LOVE to have some documentation of it. Can I get copies - how? &gt;&gt; Yes, these numbers are the members' DAR numbers. Please see my previous note as to how to order copies. (Note of 11-24-96) ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: HELP!?!? Branham Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:23:47 +0200 (EET) Hello. Mary Marshall helped me with look-ups (thank you Mary) and she did not show David Branham listed in the index. Now, can someone steer me the correct direction? I live in Turkey and have no idea where to begin. I have a reference that &quot;David Branham served in the Revolutionary War as a militia man in the company of Captain Jonathon Isom of Montgomery County Militia, as did James Branham, who may have been David's younger borhter. David's Revolutionary War service has been approved by the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution.&quot; Does someone out there have information on this militia? How/where would I begin? Thank you in advance for your assistance. BJ ========================================================================= From: Joseph Beagle<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: book Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:09:23 -0800 Does anyone have the book,&quot;POWs of the AMERICAN REVOLUTION&quot;? I am trying to locate two ancestors in this publication and would appreciate any help.. Their names were BENJAMIN BEVERLY and WILLIAM CREEL..Thank you. JoAnn ========================================================================= From: &quot;John G. West&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR Info Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:15:43 -0600 The URL that Phyllis listed for SAR does not work, try instead: http://www.sar.org/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- &gt; From: [email protected] &gt; To: American Revolution discussion list &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; Subject: DAR Info &gt; Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 10:38 AM &gt; &gt; Dear Nancy; &gt; &gt; The DAR Patriot Index lists those (men and women) who aided the cause of &gt; American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have &gt; provided supplies, signed an Oath of Allegiance, or MANY other things. Only &gt; those are listed that are ancestors of DAR members. Just because your &gt; ancestor is not in the book does not mean he/she did not have service. In &gt; fact more abcestors are added to the list all the time, the the Patriot Index &gt; has to be revised. The latest edition was published in 1990 (3-volume set). &gt; New ancestors are published 4 times a year in the DAR Magazine. You can &gt; order the Patriot Index for $75 and the magazine is $12 per year. Just write &gt; to DAR at 1776 D Street, NW, Washington, DC 20006. &gt; &gt; Just because your ancestors were Quakers, they could have supported the cause &gt; by providing supplies, etc. That would make them a Patriot. &gt; &gt; The DAR and SAR are not the same. There is an SAR Home Page at &gt; http://www.sar.org.~carroll. Check it out. &gt; &gt; Another thing to remember in the past DAR and SAR did not ask for much &gt; proof/documentation. There were not as many generations back to the &gt; Revolutionary War. As time has past more and more documentation is required. &gt; Also many errors were found in the lines. So just because grandmother or &gt; grandpa were members, that do not mean you can get in. &gt; &gt; Good luck. &gt; Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Lookups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:33:17 -0500 I'm assuming there are several DAR on this board. I was wondering if those of you who might be interested would contact me about organizing lookups so we have several participating and everyone takes responsibility for several days a month. I'm coordinator of the DAR lookups on Prodigy and would be happy to organize a group to help. The two requirements: DAR Patriot Index, Centennial Edition (1990) and a DAR Handbook (to help you be able to answer questions about DAR). My daughter left to go home this morning (unexpectedly), so I'll be free to take the time to do this. We're getting enough requests, we need several DAR members to help. This is VIS service. Mary Hall Marshall ========================================================================= From: &quot;Karen Turner&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: 2nd VA Regiment of Foot-Col Alex Spotswood Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:49:03 -0800 I'm new at everything genealogical, but especially the Revolutionary War, common terms and procedures. I've been given photocopies of payroll records and muster rolls for my husband's ancestor (William Turner). I've spent my life avoiding anything involving history, so I find myself handicapped in trying to make the most of the information I was gifted with. What were the muster rolls used for, and where/why were they used? William Turner's records were for the 2nd Virginia Regiment of Foot (I take it he was in the infantry?) for a period of 10 months. Will anyone take the time to help me interpret what they mean, and get me started in finding out about the 2nd regiment of foot, it's history, and hopefully, something of the life of William Turner? In the remarks section a muster roll record dated May 14, 1777 notes: &quot;(illegible) sick in (looks like) hospital Williamsburg&quot;. Another muster record dated Nov 7, 1777 has nothing on it but his name &amp; the date (no remarks, etc.). The third and final muster record is dated December 31, 1777. The time since last muster or enlistment says &quot;Time (expires?) 2 Dec 1780&quot;, and the remarks say &quot;One furlough&quot;. I don't know anyone locally who can help me, so would appreciate any help anyone can provide. Thanks for listening. Karen King Turner Tracy, CA [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Tim and Terry Patterson <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:54:47 -0600 I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well worth the effort even if I don't make it in. Terry ========================================================================= From: &quot;Coy B. Hodge Sr.&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:15:08 -0500 &gt;Return-path: &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 &gt;From: Mail Delivery Subsystem &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown &gt;To: [email protected] &gt; &gt; ----- Transcript of session follows ----- &gt;550 rmgate.pop.indians.edu (smtp)... 550 Host unknown &gt;554 &lt;[email protected]&gt;... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) &gt; &gt; ----- Unsent message follows ----- &gt;Received: by news1.sunbelt.net; id AA18987; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 &gt;Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 &gt;Message-Id: &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;X-Sender: [email protected] &gt;X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 &gt;Mime-Version: 1.0 &gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot; &gt;To: [email protected] &gt;From: &quot;Coy B. Hodge Sr.&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Subject: DAR Error corrections &gt; &gt; Need information from anyone that can help, I need name and address of &gt;person to contact to try and correct an entry in the DAR BOOK THAT IS INCORRECT. &gt; &gt;Can anyone help me with this please. &gt; &gt;Thank you, &gt; &gt;Coy B. Hodge Sr. &gt; &gt; ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: Dunmore's War Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:16:02 -0500 On 24 Nov, Barb Boese wrote regarding material about Dunmore's War and one of her ancestors. The same day, Paula Ward replied citing &quot;Settlement and Indian Wars, etc. First of all, the M'Clenachan Paula mentioned in her message I'm proud to say, is my gggg-grandfather, killed at the Battle of Point Pleasant, October 1774. To Barb, I have been trying to obtain a copy of Dunmore's War for several months only to have found out that it is now out of print. :-( Anyhow, I visited the Library of VA in Richmond ealier this year and then to Staunton and finally Point Pleasant West Virginia to see the battle site and the memorial with his name along with all the others. Nothing can adequately describe that. Anyhow, I brought back quite a bit of stuff on the battle. If Barb Boese from Dodge City would contact me with the full name of her ancestor and possibly anything else, I'll see what I can come up with. To the rest of the list, hello everyone and I wanted to share the above tidbit with everyone and wish them the same degree of luck I had earlier in this year coming up with all this info. If anyone else has reference to the surnames of M'CLENACHAN, McCLENAHAN, McCLENACHAN or McCLANAHAN, I would appreciate hearing from you. Yes, they spelled the name as aforementioned and in some other ways. Those 4 are the most common. I do know that the M'CLENACHAN killed at the Point Pleasant Battle had a brother who fought thru the Rev. War until he retired as a Col. in 1778. His name was Alexander. The family came from Staunton, Augusta County, VA. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. &quot;The aim of arguement, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress.&quot;....Joseph Joubert Joe [email protected] 120 Apple Hill Lane Battle Creek, MI 49017 ========================================================================= From: Mary Hill <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: AR ancestors Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:55:53 -0500 (EST) Hi! I've enjoyed reading about everyone's ancestors and the various battles. Someone mentioned something about everyone posting a query - I missed that message (along with the list intro) so I'm just now posting my info: 1) Capt. James Ewing of the Augusta VA militia: although I have copies of various records (eg., bills of sale for milita goods, etc) and I have the minutes from a number of officer's meetings (from 1776), I do not know in what battles he might have participated. I believe that he was in the militia during the early and mid-1770's, but that is all that I know. Does anyone have any information on the Augusta Co. militia? 2) Edward McMullin: he was a surveyor in VA (probably Augusta Co) during the French &amp; Indian War. I don't think that he fought during the revolution but I don't know if he continued his work as a surveyor. 3) Zephaniah Holcomb: he was in the NY militia - probably serving out of Albany. I'm interested in anything that I can learn about Zeph and his service. 4) Return Holcom: He was Zeph's father and lived in Connecticut. He fought in the Conn. milita. - again, I'm interested in whatever information anyone has. In addition to these specific ancestors, I'm interested in reading what others have found about battles and milita/army units located near my ancestors - understanding the environment in which these people lived gives me a better idea of what life was like for them. Thanks, Mary ************************************************************* Mary Hill, M.A. Doctoral Candidate, Psychology Ohio State University [email protected] ************************************************************* ========================================================================= From: Glenn/Anne Sanders<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: AKERS, BROWN, HULS, SHANKLIN, and Adios! Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:29:49 -0700 Hi all, First, I love this list - probably the best I've seen on the 'net! But without a digest mode, I just can't handle all of the traffic. So for now I am going to have to unsub. Will someone wake me up if digest mode is ever implemented, please? ----------- I have these known Rev. War ancestors, please contact me at my e-mail address if you are interested. I have much more information on most of these: John SAUNDERS of Guilford Co. NC, b. abt. 1735/40, died in 1780 supposedly in service on a march to S.C. His wife's name was Susanna. Three children that I know of. Robert SAUNDERS, John's son, of Guilford (later Rockingham) County, NC; Montgomery Co. VA after 1800. He was born about 1760; his wife's name was Anna; at least nine children. Austin AKERS, b. abt. 1760 in Buckingham Co. VA. He is physically described in the Chesterfield Register, as a soldier from Montgomery Co. VA. His wife's name was Rhoda THOMPSON. Many children. Valentine AKERS, Austin's brother; also described in the Chesterfield Register. James SHANKLIN, b. 1760 Chester Co. Pennsylvania, d. 1809 Rockingham Co. VA, married Hannah HOPKINS 5/13/1794. If you are descended from him, I have a wonderful surprise to share with you! John BROWN (DAR), b. 1760 Washington Co. MD, died same place 1827; married Elizabeth GASTON in 1787. James HULS, b. 1743 Amherst Co. VA; died 1804 Fleming Co. KY; m. Rachel FLEMING 1782. ------ Glenn Sanders [email protected] ========================================================================= From: &quot;John G. West&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:10:17 -0600 I think you said it when you mentioned that: &quot;I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul.&quot; That is why many researchers take an adverse reaction to your efforts to document properly your ancestry. And this statement says why you should do it: &quot; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- &gt; From: Tim and Terry Patterson &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; To: American Revolution discussion list &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; Subject: DAR &gt; Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 6:54 PM &gt; &gt; I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they &gt; seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to &gt; document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. &gt; &gt; The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. &gt; Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey &gt; from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. &gt; &gt; I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have &gt; found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well &gt; worth the effort even if I don't make it in. &gt; &gt; Terry ========================================================================= From: &quot;John G. West&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:15:39 -0600 I think you said it when you mentioned that: &quot;I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul.&quot; That is why many researchers take an adverse reaction to your efforts to document properly your ancestry. And this statement says why you should do it: &quot;I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR.&quot; Plus you are documenting your line and then recording it with the DAR (or SAR). By the way, the Sons of the American Revolution are slightly older organization than the Daughters of the American Revolution. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- &gt; From: Tim and Terry Patterson &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; To: American Revolution discussion list &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; Subject: DAR &gt; Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 6:54 PM &gt; &gt; I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they &gt; seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to &gt; document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. &gt; &gt; The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. &gt; Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey &gt; from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. &gt; &gt; I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have &gt; found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well &gt; worth the effort even if I don't make it in. &gt; &gt; Terry ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:52:23 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-26 21:01:44 EST, [email protected] (Tim and Terry Patterson) writes: &lt;&lt; The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well worth the effort even if I don't make it in. &gt;&gt; Dear Terry, You only need to prove one of them to join DAR. You'll do supplementals on the others later. Most DAR chapters are very open to new members. You join as a prospective or provisional member and complete your paper work afterward. Sometimes there are gals in the chapter who enjoy doing genealogy and will help you. If you're interested in a chapter in your area, one of us on here can help you make contact. Please don't delay because of a scarcity of time. Most of us suffer from THAT malady! Mary ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Corrections to Lineages Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:52:25 -0500 Coy, you can send the proofs to &quot;Corrections Genealogist&quot;, NSDAR, 1776 D St. N.W., Washington, DC 20006. When documented proof of error is submitted, it's my understanding that the appropriate corrections are made. Mary ========================================================================= From: Roy Edmund Romans II <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: MAYNARD, James Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:12:45 -0800 Greetings, I am seeking information regarding one of my Revolutionary ancestors, one James Maynard, who was born in 1750, Virginia and served the North Carolina troops under Captain Jesse FRANKLIN and Colonel Benjamin CLEVELAND as a private. His pensions claim number was W10212 Thanks to any and all who may reply. Happy Thanksgiving! In Kinship, Roy E. Romans &lt;[email protected]&gt; http://www.kansas.net/~romans/index.html My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal? ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Thanks everyone Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:18:02 +0200 (EET) I had wonderful responses from several of you offering to perform look-ups. Just FYI, I received about 3-4 messages offering look-ups - so there out there. This is a very helpful list! Question? Do I have to be a member of DAR to subsribe to the yearly periodical and to buy the index? I think it will be difficult for me to prove my birth, etc. since I live in Turkey and have no idea where MY birth certificate is!! But, I would really like to have the reading materials for my enjoyment and to help others. So far, it looks as though I have eight men to register under. I need to find the closest one to me, I know. Does anyone have any words of wisdom where to start. I have received bit mail on what to do but the steps are not there. Request applications first? Find birth and marriage certificates first? How do I find out who registered and where the smallest generation gap is between my ancestor and me? I am very new at this so please excuse my ignorance. Thanks for your time. Thank you again for those that were willing to help me with look ups. I accepted the first offer and she helped me for now. I will try again after the holidays pass. HAVE A GREAT REMAINDER OF '96!! BJ in Adana, TU ========================================================================= From: jasgrob<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: Re: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:52:24 -0800 Reuben Robertson wrote: &gt; &gt; How do the qualifications for NSDAR membership differ from those of the &gt; Sons of the American Revolution -- other than the applicant's gender? &gt; &gt; There is also a Sons of the Revolution organization, which I take it is &gt; distinct form the Sons of the American Revolution -- can anyone provide &gt; info about that group, its membership qualifications, and its interests &gt; and activities? &gt; &gt; Reuben Robertson Reuben, The Sons of the Revolution was formed in 1883. To qualify your patriot must have been in the armed forces of the Continental Congress, i.e. militia, army, navy or marines. While it is the oldest of the lineage organizations, it is the smallest and is less well known. The Sons of the American Revolution was formed in 1889. Any man 18 years or over who is the lineal descent of an ancestor who at all times was unfailing in loyalty to, and rendered active service in, either as an officer, soldier, seaman, marine, militiaman or Minuteman, in the armed forces of the Continental Congress, or of any one of the several Colonies or States; or as a signer of the Declaration of Independence, or as a member of a Committee of Safety or Correspondence; or as a member of any Continental, Provincial, or Colonial Congress or Legislature; or as a recognized patriot performed actual service by overt acts of resistance to the authority of Great Britain. The overt acts of resistance, includes such items as providing food, clothing, signing oaths of allegience, etc. The DAR was formed a year or so later, I do not have the actual year. As I understand their requirements, they are much the same as for the SAR. I have worked with my wife on 9 DAR applications and couldn't tell any difference in the requirements. My observation is that the DAR is more a stickler for preciseness in documentation than is the SAR. For men or women under 18, there is the Children of the American Revolution. Chapters are fewer and mainly located in larger metropolitan areas. Jim -- James G. Robertson 112 Northwood Place Mabank, TX 75147-9014 ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Lookup Request Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:07:22 -0600 Hello, Mary, or someone else who might be helping, At 01:30 AM 11/25/96 -0500, you wrote: &gt;Please give me all you know about them as far as name, where they &gt;lived/served from, dates of birth/death, name of spouse. That will help me &gt;look them up for you in the DAR Patriot Index. I will just ask about one of my Rev. War ancestors: KELLY/KELLEY, James. b. abt 1758. He was &quot;from&quot; Bedford Co VA. Married Elizabeth SLEDD 6 Nov 1787 Amherst Co VA. James died abt 1835 Daviess Co KY. BIRTH: The year 1758 is the approximate year of birth of James Kelley. When James Kelley declared his military service in the Revolutionary War in order to obtain a pension, in court at Daviess County, Kentucky, on 11 October 1832, he stated that he was 74 years old. MILITARY: Revolutionary War Pensioner. National Archives record. James Kelley, Survivor, Revolutionary War, Pension No. S6549. He was a Private in Captain Bluford's Company of the Regiment commanded by Colonel Lewis in the Virginia Line for a total of 15 months. He applied for his pension on 11 October 1832 in Daviess County Court, State of Kentucky. His age at that time was 74 years. 1778: James Kelley volunteered for his first tour of duty under Captain James Bluford, in Colonel Lewis' Regiment under General Christy, Commander-in-Chief. Fought against the Cherokee Indians. Two months service. (James Bluford was probably James Buford; General Christy might be correct, or the name may have been General William Christian.) 1779: James Kelley was drafted for his second tour of duty under Captain John Paxton, Col. George Skillron, General Hande, Commander. Fought against the Shawnee Indians. Two months service. 1780: James Kelley enlisted as a State Soldier (Virginia) for his third tour of duty, under John Graves Captain, James Lucus Colonel, General Stephens Commander. They had a skirmish with Tarleton's Horse at Sloan's Ferry on the Yadkin River. Eight months service. 1781: James Kelley enlisted for his fourth tour of duty and served under Captain Calloway, Col. Tucker, and General Lawson. He was at the siege of York when Lord Cornwallis was captured. Three months service. &quot;...This applicant resided in the County of Bedford...in the state of Virginia and continued a citizen of Virginia until about the year 1817 when he removed to Kentucky. He was, from information from his ancestors, born in 1758. He now resides in Daviess County, Kentucky...[in 1832]&quot; (from Pension application) !MILITARY: The following is from: Summers, Lewis Preston. &quot;Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769-1800&quot;, Kingsport Press, Kingsport Tenn., 1929: p. 1,379: &quot;Appendix I: Revolutionary Soldiers. The following list of Revolutionary Soldiers from Southwest Virginia has been compiled from sources believed to be absolutely reliable...: &quot;(1) The Court records of Botetourt, Fincastle, Montgomery and Washington Counties; &quot;(2) The History of Southwest Virginia by Summers, Lewis; Battle of Point Pleasant, Dunmore's War, by Thwaites; List of Revolutionary Soldiers, published by the Virginia State Library and compiled by H. J. Eckenrode; and from fifteen bound books of letters received from descendants of soldiers by the author during the past twenty-five years.&quot; p. 1,419: &quot;Cherokee Expedition&quot; &quot;Officers and a partial list of the privates accompany Col. William Christian upon the Cherokee Expedition in August, 1776: &quot;First Battalion Second Battalion Colonel, William Christian Colonel, Charles Lewis Major, Evan Shelby Surgeon, George Hart. Surgeon, Joseph Starke The Captains were listed as: Isaac Bledsoe, Robert Boggs, John Campbell, William Cocke, Benjamin Gray, Aaron Lewis, Thomas Madison, John Montgomery, William Preston, William Russell, John Sevier, Daniel Smith, James Thompson, and Jacob Womack.&quot; Among the many listed as Privates were: James Buford, Jacob Early, Peter Huff, Samuel Ingram, William Ingram, JAMES KELLY (p. 1,420), Johnathan Martin, Samuel Martin, Robert Preston, Joshua Renfro, Daniel Smith, David Smith, James Thomas, Isaac Thomas, Benjamin Thomas, Peter Turney (perhaps Turner?), and James Young. !LAND RECORD: Kentucky Land Warrant No. 2250 is issued to James Kelley on 12 March 1818 for fifty acres on Rough Creek in Ohio County, Kentucky. Thank you for doing this. I know everyone will be busy for the Thanksgiving Holiday. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Paula *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Sharon Rinio<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: subcribe Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:42:41 -0900 subscribe Lapi Knewelch. Sharon Rinio Library Tech. Ryan Middle School ========================================================================= From: Tomi Reneau <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:49:50 -0500 subscribe ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: War of 1812 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:47:26 -0600 &gt;Return-Path: &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:52:30 -0500 &gt;Reply-To: [email protected] &gt;Sender: Kentucky Genealogy &amp; History Discussions &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;From: &quot;Rochelle E. Cochran&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt;Subject: War of 1812 &gt;To: Multiple recipients of list KYROOTS &lt;[email protected]&gt; &gt; &gt;Does anyone have info about &quot;The General Society of the War of 1812&quot;? i.e., &gt;requirements for membership, info available, etc.... &gt; &gt;Thanks, Chelle &gt; ========================================================================= From: Linda<a href="mailto:[email protected] ">&lt;[email protected] &gt;</a> Subject: DAR Look-up, Please Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:01:56 -0500 I just found out last night that I have a relative that it is suspected served in the American Revolution. All that I know about him currently is: John McCaskill, b. Scotland, son of Finley McCaskill, one of about 10 brothers, mother, Rachel McLeod. John, I believe, lived in South Carolina. At least, that's where his family ended up. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Linda ========================================================================= From: &quot;Karen Turner&quot; <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Possible DAR lookup Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 06:13:13 -0800 My husband's 5th great grandfather served as a private in the VA 2nd regiment of foot under Col Alexander Spotswood and Christian Febiger May of 1877 to March of 1787. His name was William Turner. I believe other people have joined the DAR through his name. I can't, of course, but my granddaughter can. I would like any and all information possible about allied members. Thank you for any information you can provide. Karen King Turner [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Russell Laird <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: FW: Robert HALL-Elizabeth BEDWELL Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:30:56 -0600 ---------- SEARCHING for ANY additional genealogical data for this family. 1777 - Robert HALL [1761-1810] m. Elizabeth BEDWELL [1770-1850] Kent = County,=20 Delaware - was in Capt. John Smith's Company, Colonel Henry Neil's = command, 2nd=20 DELAWARE Regiment October 31,1780. He was wounded and Honorably = discharged on=20 September 13, 1781. This regiment was known as &quot;Delaware's Lost = Regiment.&quot; =20 Robert HALL was in attendance at the execution by Hanging, ordered by = General=20 George Washington of the spy Andre` To wit: co-conspiritor with Benedict = Arnold. Andr=E9 (=E4n=B4dr=E2, =E0n=B4dr=EA), John 1751-1780 British army officer hanged as a spy in the American Revolution for = conspiring=20 with Benedict Arnold. Arnold, Benedict 1741-1801 American Revolutionary general and traitor whose plan to surrender West = Point to=20 the British for 20,000 pounds was foiled when his accomplice John = Andr=E9 was=20 captured (1780). Arnold fled to New York and then to England (1781). http://delgensoc.org ROBERT COOPER MOOR=20 12th generation American! PO BOX 5=20 HOCKESSIN, DELAWARE 19707-0005 =20 [email protected] =20 =20 =20 ========================================================================= From: William Disbro <a href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> Subject: Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 05:25 WET Hello Gang I'd like to start a new tread in our discusion of the revolution.While alot of us have patriots in our family that we are all rightly proud of let us not forget the other side of this war.Many of us have family ties to the other side namely loyalist and like me Hessian Soldiers in our tree's . These relatives are no less deserving of our respect.So with that said I would like to know if there are anyone out there that have such relatives and could they also help in the search for our roots . I have a relative that is from the Somerset Co.,PA area named Conrad Silbaugh from oral history we believe he was a deserter from Hessian Forces after the end of the war. Our chief suspect is Conrad Seebach a drummer in the Hesse-Hanau regiment of the Hessian forces sent to the America's to fight for the British as mercenaries.He deserted to the Americans after the war while being held in a POW camp.

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