Re: a couple of messages of late on the list. One said: >if you read the old records, especially in > Pennsylvania, they called themselves Scotch-Irish. Can you point me in the direction of WHAT records? In the records that I have seen they called themselves SCOTCH and not Irish anything. Another said: >there were some Highlanders in > the bunch who moved to Northern Ireland and were eventually called > Scotch-Irish in the United States and Ulster Scots in Northern > Ireland. I think that this is the exception and not the rule. As a rule they used lowlanders as they were English-speaking and Protestant while the Highlanders were Gaelic-speaking and Catholic. They also planted some English and these are mixed in "Scotch-Irish" communities. So far as the term "Scotch-Irish" goes this is an Americanism and not used in the U. K. The late Michael O'Brien believed that it came about when bigoted (for which read "anti-Catholic") descendants of Ulster Scots wanted to distance themselves from any connection with the famine Irish who came over in the 19th century. If this is true (O'Brien was a partisan who wrote with some venom but was sometimes right) then the term "Scotch-Irish" would be an insult to both the Irish and the Scots. Billy Kennedy (an Irishman) wrote an article in the current issue of BELLEFONTE and he uses "Scots-Irish" or "Ulstermen." Being from Ireland he ought to know. David Armstrong 201 Graham St Elkins, WV 26241 Ph (304)-636-3964