In a message dated 06/03/2002 4:17:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lender@netrox.net writes: << Patriot Index listings for those who served but no one has joined DAR for those to date: my Philip Catt and Richard Shipp, for example....... >> No, that is not correct. The Patriot Index contains only those Revolutionary ancestors whose descendants have joined DAR. Phyllis