IIRC John Adams spent the last few years of the AR in Europe. Also, I doubt that he any sense of the support/nonsupport of colonists outside New England and Pennsylvania. His figures are probably fairly accurate for the period up 'til after the Declaration of Independence, however, support would have grown after that period. In the area of support for the Patriot Cause by Scot Irish and Scots. I recall that those Scots who settled in the Piedmont area of North Carolina were described as generally favoring the Loyalist cause. The Scot Irish that were "over the mountain," when they took a position, generally came down on the patriot side. B. Cox In a message dated 6/10/2002 2:05:20 PM Central Daylight Time, jlstokes@supernet.com writes: > These are probably the only numbers > we will ever have, they come from a reliable source who cites numbers that > are against his interests, so just on that point we have to acknowledge > them. As a politician it would have been Adam's business to know how people > thought. >