I don't have a problem with Serle's numbers, quite the contrary, they are so close to Adams that it convinces me that Adams was pretty close to correct. If both sides give you about the same numbers you have to figure they are pretty close. Keep in mind, even with a modern poll there is often a plus or minus of 4% so the numbers can be off by 8% in a modern poll. Adams and the others were avid letter writers so I'm sure he was receiving letters from others back in the colonies and I'm sure, high on the list of things they discussed, was the mood at home. I agree, I'd like to know where Adams mentioned these numbers, it will surely help put them in context and give me more faith in them. Still, I'm impressed that Serle's numbers were so close. I'm not aware of any other estimates of how the population felt during the revolution, I'm amazed there is a second set of numbers. I will keep my eyes open. Granted, these numbers are fluid and probably went up and down as they did in the Philadelphia area. Jim