--part1_135.f767a17.2a32e274_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit < Subj: Re: [A-REV] Greed Date: 6/8/2002 12:27:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: JMJJF In a message dated 6/6/2002 5:54:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hcalmes@mindspring.com writes: << Subj: [A-REV] Greed Date: 6/6/2002 5:54:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: hcalmes@mindspring.com (holley calmes) To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com Let see, if I followed you correctly on another point. The rebels were motivated primarily by greed. Therefore the loyalists would have been characterized by ... (absence of greed?). Ahem. The Loyalist characters in my book loved America. I have no reason to think they were atypical. They loved their homes, their way of life and their patriotic kin and neighbors. But they ended up having to leave it all forever and live out their lives in alien lands. I might add, I don't see how they could have acted other than they did, or how the patriots could have treated them other than they did. This leads me to believe people of Middle Eastern origin are going to have a very bad time in this country. I wish it were not so. Anne >> --part1_135.f767a17.2a32e274_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <JMJJF@aol.com> From: JMJJF@aol.com Full-name: JMJJF Message-ID: <32.2811d206.2a32e1c7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:27:51 EDT Subject: Re: [A-REV] Greed To: hcalmes@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 In a message dated 6/6/2002 5:54:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hcalmes@mindspring.com writes: << Subj: [A-REV] Greed Date: 6/6/2002 5:54:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: hcalmes@mindspring.com (holley calmes) To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com Let see, if I followed you correctly on another point. The rebels were motivated primarily by greed. Therefore the loyalists would have been characterized by ... (absence of greed?). Ahem. The Loyalist characters in my book loved America. I have no reason to think they were atypical. They loved their homes, their way of life and their patriotic kin and neighbors. But they ended up having to leave it all forever and live out their lives in alien lands. I might add, I don't see how they could have acted other than they did, or how the patriots could have treated them other than they did. This leads me to believe people of Middle Eastern origin are going to have a very bad time in this country. I wish it were not so. Anne --part1_135.f767a17.2a32e274_boundary--

><< The Loyalist characters in my book loved America. I have no reason >to think >they were atypical. They loved their homes, their way of life and their >patriotic kin and neighbors. But they ended up having to leave it all >forever and live out their lives in alien lands. > I might add, I don't see how they could have acted other than they did, or >how the patriots could have treated them other than they did. >> You make a good point, Anne... There were two sides to that issue - at least two sides! <g> In a tiny pocket of (beautiful!) countryside on what is now the state line between NY and VT there was a group of Irish and Irish Palatine immigrants living in a tiny settlement called Ashgrove. The Palatines had been brought out of the Palatinate torn by famine and war, and the one who "saved" them was none other than the English queen. She brought thousands of families to England, and then sent most to the Colonies (for her own less-than-altruistic motives). Hundreds of other Palatine families were sent north to Ireland to live as tenant farmers on estates owned by wealthy landlords. Later, when those same families immigrated to the Colonies to better their lives and to own their own land, they felt a great debt to the Crown. Ira and Ethan ALLEN, who lived in the same 'hood, began raiding, harassing, beating, stealing the animals and burning the homes of anyone who did not declare himself to be a rebel. These Irish Palatines were torn... they, too, loved their new homes and homeland, but they could not fight against the Crown that had given them their freedom and indeed their very lives. Some did not necessarily view themselves as Loyalists, but they could not bring themselves to take up arms against the British. In that particular area and probably in many others it was pretty nearly impossible to stay neutral. Many of these Irish Palatines were driven out and they ended up moving north to Ontario. Susan