David, I went back to school about the same age and when someone in one governmental area (county, state, federal) won't do interlibrary loans for me, I looked into another library within the area to find someone (that had the knowledge to do this) would this is for me. That's why I've learned to never take NO for an answer...there is ALWAYS SOMEONE up the line who will do these interlibrary loans; perservenence is the name of the game here! Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: David Armstrong [mailto:frankensteinjr@meer.net] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:28 PM To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 I have never understood these libraries and their policies that exclude the general public from such a valuable service as interlibrary loan. Our local college has a policy that NO interlibrary loans will be provided unless to (1) a professor or (2) a student in a class at that college with a note from the professor that the interlibrary loan is for a class assignment. I was 35 when I entered college but I possessed a fair amount of education at that time mostly from my own reading and research into topics that interested me or I was curious about. The library that you mention seems to think that ordinary folks like me who want knowledge are not worthy of fooling with. This is a shame as our local PUBLIC library has a limited system through which they can get materials although I will say that if one locates a publication that is not within their system of libraries the WILL get it for you. Good luck....you will most likely need it! David Armstrong 201 Graham St. Elkins, WV 26241 Phone (304)-636-3964 -----Original Message----- From: Dee <deedovey@rica.net> To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 31, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 >Thanks again, Rhonda. But this "we don't do Interlibrary Loans" comes right >from the top, telling me in person. She did say that if you are doing a Dr.'s >thesis, we will do ILL's for you. That was it! > >Incredible, right? >Dee. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rhonda Houston" <rfhouston@mindspring.com> >To: "Dee" <deedovey@rica.net>; <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: March 31, 2002 12:55 PM >Subject: RE: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > > >Every library is funded by a larger governmental concern be it county, >state, or federal....SOMEONE IS GETTING PAID to make sure the library is >functioning as a library should and is responsible for this service to the >customers. Very often you have to politically, politely ask for a SUPERVISOR >who has more of a handle on how to do these things...these individuals have >been sent to college (4 to 6 yrs) for this job and their pay check reflects >this as well; so ASK for this individual and you will get results. > >PERSEVERANCE AND KNOWLEDGE of how the chain of command within an >organization evolves ALWAYS WINS OUT!! Remember that for someone on the >otherside of the counter to have to admit to a patron on the otherside of >the counter, to whom they are trying to serve, that they don't know how to >do something, is sometime awkward (and makes them feel inadequate). This >doesn't make that person who is assisting you feel good. So, Help relieve >this feeling and ALLOW them to pass you on to that person in-the-know. >Someone is always incharge of all governmental concerns (whatever level) and >it is everyone's responsible within that library to SERVE the customers who >are paying their salaries. > >Rhonda Houston >-----Original Message----- >From: Dee [mailto:deedovey@rica.net] >Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 11:24 AM >To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > > >Dear Rhonda, >Thanks for answering this in such a thorough manner. How I appreciate it >and I >know others do as well. > >You say, >go to either your public library or family history center and give the >librarian the ISBN# and you will be able to have access to any thing from >Prince William County Library. > >This is so good to know, but I think I must live in the only town in the >whole >United States that does NOT do Interlibrary Loans. And it is a relatively >new >library, too. I got one ILL once by asking a guy that was retiring from the >library, but then I had to ask over and over about what had happened to it. >As >I recall, it might have been a book from RELIC. Each time they? seemed to >have >lost track of it. > >I will try the FHC which is in Winchester, VA. However, it might be nice to >spend a day now and then at Mansassas at the Bull Run Regional Library, on >Ashton Street, which is where RELIC is housed. This is where I understand >it >is; however, I have not been there yet. It is only 120 RT miles away from >where >I live. And the FHC is 60, so it might be worth a day over there. > >Dee >Shenandoah Valley, VA > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rhonda Houston" <rfhouston@mindspring.com> >To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com>; <deedovey@rica.net> >Sent: March 31, 2002 10:20 AM >Subject: FW: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > > >According to the write up within the website there isn't a fee because the >library where the RELIC is housed is witin what is considered one of >Virginia's public libraries, and "the "staff maintain ties with local >historical and genealogical societies and with other libraries and agencies >with common interests, such as the National Archives and the Church of Jesus >Christ of Latter Day Saints Library (LDS) and other related organizations" >which means strongly that any Mormon family history center which has records >can get easy access to the RELIC's holdings in Manassas. > >and > >http://www.pwcgov.org/library/default.asp >Also, through your local library any book. All you have to do is ask the >RELIC's librarian for the book's ISBN# (which is on the title page) and then >go to either your public library or family history center and give the >librarian the ISBN# and you will be able to have access to any thing from >Prince William County Library. THE SECRET IS TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU >WANT which can be accomplished by emailing the libraian at the RELIC via >this url provided: >Here's the url for contacting one of Prince William County Librarian's >directly = http://www.pwcgov.org/library/forms/virtual_reference.htm >however, it looks like from the website, this website is created for those >who are already living within the county of Prince William county, but don't >let that keep you from using the contact provided. You still can ask >questions and will get an answer. Immediate access to what it is that you >want is only an email away.... this an email form that was established so >they can take care of those people out of the county, so fill out this form >and ask away! Here is a map within Prince William County where all their >libraries are located. http://www.pwcgov.org/library/AreaLibraries.asp > >Hope this answers your question. Rhonda Houston > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dee [mailto:deedovey@rica.net] >Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:41 AM >To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [A-REV] Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > > >I was asking if the RELIC library in Manassas was open to the public or if >you >have to have a librarcy card there to avail yourself of its services. >I have been to the wonderful DAR library in Washington, D.C. I believe >there is >a fee there, bu it is open to the public. > >thanks. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dee" <deedovey@rica.net> >To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com>; ><AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D@rootsweb.com> >Sent: March 30, 2002 12:08 AM >Subject: Re: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > > >I have often wondered if this is open to the public or if you have to have a >library card there. > >Thanks, >Dee >----- Original Message ----- >From: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D@rootsweb.com> >Sent: March 29, 2002 9:01 PM >Subject: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest V02 #80 > >______________________________ > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237