Pardon me for interjecting myself into this conversation, but I'm in the (Saratoga) area and have some background on what happened up here. (1) I'd love the reference. Please provide to all. (2) We're talking 1777. Without looking it up, I'm not sure where Morgan was after the fiasco at Quebec, but I've got a nagging feeling he was with Washington in the Jerseys, before he was sent up here to help Schuyler/Gates. By the way, many of us Yorkers think Schuyler was the hero, and Gates should only be commended for not messing it up. (3) Agree that Morgan and his folks were instrumental at Saratoga. He, along with John Glover, is one of the under-appreciated officers of the Revolution. -- Bill Carr Town of Malta Saratoga County, NY Lossing's Field Books of the Revolution and War of 1812; http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/ List Administrator for RootsWeb's DUSTIN mailing list. Coordinator for Haddam, Middlesex County, Connecticut page; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/ David Armstrong wrote: > Hi Frank: > > I was interested when you said you work on Saratoga. In the 1770s in > an adjoining county to this one a guy was brought before the court for > being a tory. It was charged that he had got drunk and said "All the > American Army ever did was take Burgoyne and that was by accident!". > Do you have any idea what he meant by a statement like that? I can > send the reference if you want it. > > What is the address of your web site? > > Best regards > > David Armstrong > Elkins, WV > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Goodway" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:03 PM > Subject: [AMER-REV] Fort Pitt > > >> I'm very interested in finding any rosters that might be available. I >> work on a web site that involves the battles at Saratoga in Sept. and >> Oct. 1777. Col. Daniel Morgan, at the request of General Washington, >> put >> together a corp of riflemen from PA and VA. From what I've been reading >> here, I'm pretty sure they came out of Fort Pitt. They were very >> instrumental in both battles at Saratoga. >> >> The captains I have are Hawkins Boone, Samuel Cabell, William Henderson, >> James Knox, Gabriel Long, Thomas Posey and Van Swearingen. Don't have >> very many of Long's men. >> Can anybody help? >> Frank Goodway >
Bill Carr wrote > (1) I'd love the reference. Please provide to all. William Ward was the one who was on trial. He lived in Pendleton (then Rockingham) County, VA. Morton in his history fingers Ward as the leaader of the Torys at the "Tory Camp" in Randolph County but the camp pre-dates Ward's trial by a year or more. What is known for sure is this: Rockingham Co VA Order Book 29 Aug 1780 - William Ward charged with having uttererd on 27 Feb 1780 for people to take up arms against the USA. 4 Statements: "Americans would just as soon fight the Devil as the English" "The US has never done anything in the war but take Burgoyne and that was by accident" "England had a right to send forces the the US because the US owed England a debt" "The US are cowards since they hired foreginers to fight their battles" This guy seems to have forgotten the Indians and Germans that his majesty was using. I never have exactly figured out what he meant by that "by accident" remark regarding Saratoga. There are some other bits and pieces in the court record and Morton says that Ward was sent to Williamsburgh for trial. I have not yet followed up on that. If Ward was the typical tory agent living among the settlements he would not likely have been shooting his mouth off like that. If he was the leader at the "Tory Camp" on the Dry Fork I am unaware of anything in particular that the people in the camp ever did. Maybe they were a safehouse for invading tory forces from the west. A location pretty far east for such a purpose but very remote and hard to get to. The historical marker for the Tory Camp got knocked over by traffic. A shame as we don't have that many Rvolutionary era monuments around here. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV