Hi Warren Yes, I agree that this area was full of Tories. Before the war they would have been the politically conservative (like Ward's statement that the US owed England a debt). During the war many were double agents. I have a pay roll of Guy Carleton's Indian Dept. in 1776 and Simon Girty and Alexd. McKee are on it. This was two years BEFORE they "escaped " to Detroit. I also have a contemporary letter that says Girty made a run from Detroit back to the settlements to pick up a bundle of letters from a hollow tree, so there was comminication going on between this area and Detroit. I have been able to explain all of the behaviors of Timothy Dorman and am ready to write something about him. Also, as far as I am concerned my ancestor, Jacob Brake was a full-blown Tory who intended to link up with Cornwalis. Given the horrible situation Virginia was in at the time Morgan recommended clemency for if it had happened at any other time Brake would have danced on a rope. I think Buckhannon was a center of conservative (i.e. "Tory") politics as Dorman, Brake and the Schoolcrafts can all be found there and Simon Schoolcraft DID get a land grant in Canada. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV One of the things I kept bumping into when I did the biographies of the captains in Dunmore's War were stories about the Tories -- who were more numerous than I suspected. Almost every county seemed to have had a pocket of Loyalists. Alas the INLAND Virginians did not go to Canada, nor did they put in bills for their losses to the British government -- which makes them so much harder to identify than the contingents on the seabords in New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, etc.