As a proud member of the DAR I am glad I have been able to research at least one ancestor and have him now on the rolls of known Revolutionary War soldiers and patriots. I have several more men that need recognition and as hard as it is to find documents in Mississippi where records are as scarce as raindrop in the Sahara Desert, I am hoping that the sand in my hourglass does not run out before I can complete the documentation for these unknown heroes of American Liberty. Membership in the DAR is not for me...it is for them. The DAR local chapters are pleased to review your documentation and let you know what you will need if anything to prove link in the family ancestry--birth, death, marriage. It is not the purpose of the DAR to do one's research. If you are having trouble with record resources talk to your local genealogy librarian or historical society. Read about the record archives in the states with which you are concerned. I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. Tree Mother She lives a long way from Mississippi. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "qvarizona" <qvarizona@yahoo.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > Terri, > > I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info > about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out > some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: > > Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership > Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local > chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September thru > May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. > > Your reference number is: xxxxxxx > > Thank you for your interest, > Membership Information Department, NSDAR > ProspectiveMembers@dar.org > > Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State Membership > Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her > job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days > later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her job, > she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my > questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify > what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and > signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told > no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. > > I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I > know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. In > my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more than > enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an > undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying to > decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent > marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so > many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, > teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR > "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves my > research? > > Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and spouse-- > state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they were > available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land > records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted if > it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you can > check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). > > Hope this helps. > > Joanne > > > Terri <taire@webtv.net> wrote: > > Joanne - > > I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone > to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? > > Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! 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TreeMother <Tonin1@airmail.net> wrote: " I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line." I'm sorry you feel obligated to judge my problems without knowing what they are, and I'm not sure why you need to know, but I think your lack of understanding says more about you than me. Have you never seen blanks in a family line? It just so happens that my "documental blanks" are in the generations between me and my grandmothers, not because I don't know who they are, but because of situations that make finding the proof very difficult. For reasons too complicated to explain here, more than one on-site visit to a distant courthouse will be required, and due to age and other difficulties, it is not easy for me to make that trip. Frankly, it's DAR members like you who make me hesitate to even consider it. Of course you should be proud to be a DAR member, and hopefully, you earned it yourself, and didn't stop there but continued to learn more about your family history. I am fortunate in not needing any help proving my RWV's participation, as all are well known and mentioned by people like George Washington and Gen. Nathaniel Greene. Three of them are mentioned in almost every history of the Revolution written about their home states. All left wills, bibles and land deeds. I know where they lived, who their neighbors were, and was fortunate enough to trace several old ancestral homes that are still standing. Nevertheless. smugness is not a trait I think in vogue, so I'll agree to stop sounding smug if you will. Joanne Merrill Kartak Descendant of John and Priscilla Alden, Judge Samuel Sewall, Thomas Rowland, James Gilmore, As a proud member of the DAR I am glad I have been able to research at least one ancestor and have him now on the rolls of known Revolutionary War soldiers and patriots. I have several more men that need recognition and as hard as it is to find documents in Mississippi where records are as scarce as raindrop in the Sahara Desert, I am hoping that the sand in my hourglass does not run out before I can complete the documentation for these unknown heroes of American Liberty. Membership in the DAR is not for me...it is for them. The DAR local chapters are pleased to review your documentation and let you know what you will need if anything to prove link in the family ancestry--birth, death, marriage. It is not the purpose of the DAR to do one's research. If you are having trouble with record resources talk to your local genealogy librarian or historical society. Read about the record archives in the states with which you are concerned. I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. Tree Mother She lives a long way from Mississippi. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "qvarizona" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > Terri, > > I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info > about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out > some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: > > Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership > Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local > chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September thru > May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. > > Your reference number is: xxxxxxx > > Thank you for your interest, > Membership Information Department, NSDAR > ProspectiveMembers@dar.org > > Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State Membership > Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her > job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days > later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her job, > she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my > questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify > what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and > signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told > no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. > > I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I > know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. In > my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more than > enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an > undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying to > decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent > marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so > many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, > teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR > "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves my > research? > > Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and spouse-- > state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they were > available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land > records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted if > it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you can > check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). > > Hope this helps. > > Joanne > > > Terri wrote: > > Joanne - > > I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone > to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? > > Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! 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I have to ask...what is a "Certified Genealogist"? And how does one become one, and what does it mean? -David -----snip----- I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. [Me >] Tree Mother She lives a long way from Mississippi. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "qvarizona" <qvarizona@yahoo.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > Terri, > > I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info > about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out > some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: > > Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership > Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local > chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September thru > May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. > > Your reference number is: xxxxxxx > > Thank you for your interest, > Membership Information Department, NSDAR > ProspectiveMembers@dar.org > > Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State Membership > Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her > job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days > later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her job, > she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my > questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify > what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and > signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told > no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. > > I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I > know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. In > my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more than > enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an > undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying to > decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent > marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so > many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, > teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR > "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves my > research? > > Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and spouse-- > state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they were > available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land > records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted if > it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you can > check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). > > Hope this helps. > > Joanne > > > Terri <taire@webtv.net> wrote: > > Joanne - > > I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone > to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? > > Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! 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I'm third generation DAR, am a chapter regent, have volunteered to help with applications, databases, etc. The DAR does not have a "certified genealogist" position, so I don't know where this is coming from. We have volunteer genealogists at chapter, state, and national levels, but we're not arrogant about it. We are always willing to help, no matter what level of expertise or experience an applicant may have. This attitude makes me so sad. Karen Sullivan Regent, Quassaick Chapter, NY -----Original Message----- From: american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Reed Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:26 AM To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research I have to ask...what is a "Certified Genealogist"? And how does one become one, and what does it mean? -David -----snip----- I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. [Me >] Tree Mother She lives a long way from Mississippi. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "qvarizona" <qvarizona@yahoo.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > Terri, > > I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info > about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out > some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: > > Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership > Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local > chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September thru > May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. > > Your reference number is: xxxxxxx > > Thank you for your interest, > Membership Information Department, NSDAR ProspectiveMembers@dar.org > > Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State > Membership > Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her > job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days > later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her job, > she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my > questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify > what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and > signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told > no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. > > I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I > know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. In > my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more > than > enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an > undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying to > decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent > marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so > many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, > teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR > "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves my > research? > > Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and > spouse-- > state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they > were > available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land > records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted if > it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you can > check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). > > Hope this helps. > > Joanne > > > Terri <taire@webtv.net> wrote: > > Joanne - > > I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone > to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? > > Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe > philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > We have archives! 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