Thank you for this updated information. Tree Mother "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grundset, Eric" <egrundset@dar.org> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research Everyone, The address for BCG, from their website (www.bcgcertification.org), is: Board for Certification of Genealogists® P.O. Box 14291 Washington, D.C. 20044 In addition, there have been or are about to be significant changes in the certification process and the categories, so Helen's 15-year-old article won't address these latest developments. Information on BCG's website gives all of the details. I am not affiliated with BCG. Eric G. Grundset List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, Please reply to me off-line; I would appreciate your doing so. Barbara Buettner, DAR Registrar in Cullman, AL. -----Original Message----- From: american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Pat Reeser Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:47 AM To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR Birth Records Stephen, try this web site; it appears to be the site of a Seattle chapter. Good luck. Our chapter in Kentucky is attracting members nearly monthly right now. Three or four of us meet at the library each Wednesday afternoon for a couple of hours to help people with applications, as well as help with their research. We do what it takes to attract new members, including streamlined meetings, interesting speakers, worthwhile projects, good public relations and publicity. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wamgcdar/ If this doesn't work. I typed DAR Seattle into my browser and found the site for the state organization and then a list of chapters, including one in Seattle. Pat, a chapter Regent in Kentucky ----- Original Message ----- From: <Remeor@aol.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR Birth Records > Dear Ester, > > My wife is a direct descendant of several American Revolutionary war > soldiers, including > both the American Patriot and Loyalist sides. Regarding the Patriot side > I > have obtained > previous DAR genealogical records which were used by a cousin of her's and > have also > collected many other vital records, ect. I would like to assist my wife > and > daughter in > completing the DAR registration as well. Would you have any suggestions > for > us in this > process. Where do you find a local DAR chapter, ect.? Thank you for your > kind reply! > > Sincerely, > > Stephen G. Schweyen > Seattle > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the only recent Sandford found on DAR online index dates & spouse are different see below GOOD LUCK JUDY FLORIDA Elisha Sanford Service: CONNECTICUT    Rank: PRIVATE Birth: 11 Jul 1750    MILFORD NEW HAVEN CO CONNECTICUT Death: 12 Jul 1841    MILFORD NEW HAVEN CO CONNECTICUT Service Source: S*W17772 Service Description:  1) CAPT JAS.DAVIDSON Residence 1) MILFORD - NEW HAVEN CO - CONNECTICUT Spouse Number Name 1) RHODA JOHNSON  children Mary Jones m-abijah Brown Mabel m-David Nettleton Mehetibel m David Nettleton Elisha m-Mary Nancy m Oliver Rice last DAR # 818942 Mabel Sanford m-D Nettleton ------------ SANFORD, ELIADA/ELIDA Ancestor #: A099982 Service: CONNECTICUT    Rank: PRIVATE Birth: 1755     NORTH HAVEN CONNECTICUT Death: 4 Nov 1820    NORTH HAVEN CONNECTICUT Service Description:  1) CAPTS BRACKETT & TRUMBULL Residence 1) NORTH HAVEN - CONNECTICUT Spouse Number Name 1) NANCY TODD  children Eliada Perit M Sarah last dar #373554 add vol 393

Two Specht on the Rev War Database System, both from PA. An Adam and a Christian Specht. Adam enlisted in Schaefferstown, Lancaster Co. PA, applied for his pension while living in Union Co PA. /Has anyone ever joined the D.A.R. with Speck or Specht as the surnames? Any help would be appreciated. Gary in Kentucky/

I didn't say there was no such thing as a certified genealogist. I said the DAR doesn't have a "certified genealogist" position, as such. I'm sure some of the volunteer field genealogists have obtained certification, but it's not required of them. Karen Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: PmpGenie@aol.com [mailto:PmpGenie@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:04 PM To: ksullivan@hvc.rr.com Subject: DAR and research In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:47:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ksullivan@hvc.rr.com writes: The DAR does not have a "certified genealogist" position, so I don't know where this is coming from. There is a certification for genealogists, and it is very difficult to get. Board for Certification of <http://www.bcgcertification.org/> Genealogists Phyllis - DAR in GA

I didn't write "Where do you find a local DAR chapter?" I answered someone who wrote that. I've been a member for years, with 17 proven ancestors and one pending. Have held many offices; and completed applications for 20 new members in the past year. I still say the easiest and quickest way to find a chapter is to Google or use any web browser by writing "DAR Oregon" or wherever. Most state web sites have listings of all chapters in the state with links to the registrar or regent's e-mail address. Another point is that the latest edition of the DAR Patriot Index is already outdated and the National web site is the best way to check for proven patriots. Officers of the local chapters have access to the very latest information. There is also a web site for non-members at http://www.dar.org/ At that site you can find a "patriot lookup" request form. If you fill out that form you will get a response from National within a few days. And of course, you really don't need to try to remember any of these addresses -- just put DAR in the browser and scroll down to find National or your state. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <PmpGenie@aol.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > > In a message dated 12/6/2006 5:28:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > pareeser@insightbb.com writes: > > Where do you find a local DAR chapter, etc.? > > > > To find the most convenient chapter to you, go to _www.dar.org_ > (http://www.dar.org) > Click Membership, then go down to "Step 3" and click Contact Us. > Complete the form and someone will contact you soon. > > Phyllis > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As a followup to the question from Ann Brown, Elisha and Rhoda seem to have had children Mabel, Nancy, Mehitibel, Mary, and Elisha, and people gone through these children as part of their line to Elisha. I don't know if this helps you or not. Pat

Greetings Listers, I read this list and learn a great deal on a weekly basis. Now it is my turn to share. I joined DAR because I wanted to honor my patriots who served to make this the great country it is. I had to research and document every ancestor back to my "favorite" ancestor a fighting Quaker. It was not easy but I learned a great deal. Along the way I had many DAR members help me. When it got down to approving my application I was fortunate enough to be able to visit DC and meet with the genealogist employee reviewing my file. I have since documented and honored two more revolutionary ancestors. DAR is a patriotic organization. It is current. It is non-political (although you may run into some strong willed individuals). Most of all it is an organziation of women who treasure their lineage. I have been priviledged to be a member in Virginia Beach and now Maryland. Within the membership of DAR there are Certified Genealogists. They DO NOT market their skills. In some chapters there are membership chairs who are the first liaison to a potential member. Each chapter does have a registrar. Some chapters have few members others like both of mine have ACTIVE membership in excess of 60 people. If you need help ask for it. Honoring your ancestor for your heirs is a living gift. One cannot explain, it is a feeling, a powerful feeling to know that you can honor your lineage. Caryn Johnson DAR member Goshen Mills DAR Maryland

There is an Elisha Sanford who married Rhoda Johnson. He was born 11 Jul 1750 died 12 Jul 1841 -- New Haven, CT. I did not find one from Norwich who married Mary Dorman. My information is coming from a web site that only chapter officers can access -- not the Patriot Index which is already outdated. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Brown" <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Patriot Elisha Sanford >I would like to know if anyone has documented this man listed below as a > Patriot for either DAR or SAR enrollment. Could someone please check for > me? > Elisha Sanford of Norwich, Conn. b. 18 Nov 1755 m Mary Dorman 6 Feb 1782. > Elisha died 23 Jan 1834 and Mary death place unknown? . This info was > handed down to me by an Aunt who did the research on the family. I don't > know where she got her information so must prove all this. Perhaps in the > town records. > > Thank you, Ann Brown > Florida > > > -- > Ann Brown " Cookie" > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What is the SAR? The SAR is a historical, educational, and patriotic non-profit, United States 501(c)3, corporation that seeks to maintain and extend *  the institutions of American freedom*  an appreciation for true patriotism*  a respect for our national symbols*  the value of American citizenship*  the unifying force of 'e pluribus unum' that has created, from the people of many nations, one nation and one people. We do this by perpetuating the stories of patriotism, courage, sacrifice, tragedy, and triumph of the men who achieved the independence of the American people in the belief that these stories are universal ones of man's eternal struggle against tyranny, relevant to all time, and will inspire and strengthen each succeeding generation as it too is called upon to defend our freedoms on the battlefield and in our public institutions. Historical • We commemorate and provide memorials for the people and events of the American Revolution. • We help preserve records relating to the events leading up to and during the American Revolution. • The National SAR was a major force behind the construction of the National Archives in Washington DC and the collection of historic documents there. • We support research and presentations (books, articles, and talks) related to the history and people of the period 1750-1800. • The national SAR Magazine publishes authoritative descriptions of historical events in a quality magazine of archival value. • The SAR Revolutionary War Graves Committee published information on some 54,000 grave sites of patriots in the NSSAR Revolutionary War Graves Register, published in 1993.  More names have been collected and the entire 140,000 names and locations have now been published on CDROM. • The Patriot Index Committee is publishing a CDROM with information on 732,000 patriots and their descendants. Patriotic • We inspire the community with the principles on which our nation was founded. • Many chapters and states have color guards that wear Revolutionary War uniforms and participate in civic and patriotic events and observances such as Fourth of July, Veterans Day, Armed Forces Day, Flag Day, Patriots Day (April 19), Bill of Rights Day, Yorktown Day, Constitution Day, and important battles of the Revolutionary War. • Each year the SAR National Congress passes resolutions to stimulate personal and national action based on these principles. • We maintain and extend the institutions of American freedom. In 1994 the NSSAR formed a Task Force to Preserve U. S. History to help focus public attention on profound problems in some proposed national standards for teaching pre-college U. S. History. • We help carry out the promises expressed in the Preamble to the Constitution. • We provide recognition for public service. The state societies and chapters of the NSSAR present thousands of awards each year to law enforcement officers, public safety officers, and other citizens who exemplify the best civic traditions of our nation. This includes young men and women who are leaders in our communities: high-ranking high school students of history, Eagle Scouts, JROTC and ROTC cadets and midshipmen. • We honor, respect, and support veterans, especially those confined to residential and hospital facilities provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs. Educational • We sponsor contests -- essay and oration -- for high school students, based on historical and patriotic themes. • We distribute history curriculum at no cost to the recipient.  This curriculum was developed by the Houston Independent School System in cooperation with the Robert and Janice McNair Foundation and the American Heritage Education Foundation, Inc. • We inform the community about the events and philosophical bases of the American Revolution and the Constitution.  Color Guards in Revolutionary War uniforms participate in civic events and patriotic celebrations throughout the United States, providing pageantry, drama and a sense of the nation's history.  Important events and persons of the Revolutionary period are portrayed for students and the public at large. • The SAR Magazine provides a public record of the activities of the society and has numerous articles detailing the history of the initial and continuing struggle for independence. • We help people locate and evaluate genealogical records. Our state and chapter registrars have excellent resources, and the NSSAR library is a major national repository of genealogical information. http://www.sar.org/

Everyone, The address for BCG, from their website (www.bcgcertification.org), is: Board for Certification of Genealogists® P.O. Box 14291 Washington, D.C. 20044 In addition, there have been or are about to be significant changes in the certification process and the categories, so Helen's 15-year-old article won't address these latest developments. Information on BCG's website gives all of the details. I am not affiliated with BCG. Eric G. Grundset

You can send the name to DAR and within few days they'll let you know. http://www.dar.org/natsociety/pi_lookup.cfm Joanne Ann Brown <cookiebrown11@gmail.com> wrote: I would like to know if anyone has documented this man listed below as a Patriot for either DAR or SAR enrollment. Could someone please check for me? Elisha Sanford of Norwich, Conn. b. 18 Nov 1755 m Mary Dorman 6 Feb 1782. Elisha died 23 Jan 1834 and Mary death place unknown? . This info was handed down to me by an Aunt who did the research on the family. I don't know where she got her information so must prove all this. Perhaps in the town records. Thank you, Ann Brown Florida -- Ann Brown " Cookie" List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

Pat, Thank you very much for the information. Sincerely, Stephen

In a message dated 12/6/2006 8:53:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DaveReed@midmaine.com writes: I have to ask...what is a "Certified Genealogist"? And how does one become one, and what does it mean? -David Yes, there is a Certification for Genealogists. It is NOT an easy task. _Welcome to the Board for Certification of Genealogists_ (http://www.bcgcertification.org/) Click "How to Become Certified" Phyllis in GA

I would like to know if anyone has documented this man listed below as a Patriot for either DAR or SAR enrollment. Could someone please check for me? Elisha Sanford of Norwich, Conn. b. 18 Nov 1755 m Mary Dorman 6 Feb 1782. Elisha died 23 Jan 1834 and Mary death place unknown? . This info was handed down to me by an Aunt who did the research on the family. I don't know where she got her information so must prove all this. Perhaps in the town records. Thank you, Ann Brown Florida -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

I thougth about joining SAR, but, I couldn't really find any real reason to...it doesn't seem that they "do" anything, and that membership is pretty expensive considering it doesn't "mean" anything... (If someone can provide good reason to join, let me know!) -----Original Message----- From: american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Reeser Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:36 AM To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research In response to this in Joanne's message: "NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate." Technically the person who told you this is correct. The DAR loves it when every step of the ancestry is documented with birth, marriage, death certificates, but often this just isn't available. At those times, other documentation will work. Bible records, school records, documents signed by a parent, for example. It's no wonder ladies are afraid to try to join the DAR; unfortunately, some chapters and members make it sound so much more complicated than it really is. Our regent and registrar help with research, the applications (the application form is on-line and available to members so it's easy to help prospects by filling out their applications for them). I hope the bickering and sniping on this site does not discourage ladies from joining. It is a very worthwhile organization that works hard to help veterans, children, schools, & patriotic endeavors. Our chapter has fun and welcomes new members; we have more than 20 new members/applicants right now, and it isn't "your grandma's DAR" in our chapter. List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 12/6/2006 5:28:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pareeser@insightbb.com writes: Where do you find a local DAR chapter, etc.? To find the most convenient chapter to you, go to _www.dar.org_ (http://www.dar.org) Click Membership, then go down to "Step 3" and click Contact Us. Complete the form and someone will contact you soon. Phyllis

> If you have access to the publications of the National Genealogical > Society, check out the Quarterly, Volume 79, Number 1, March, 1991. On > page 5, Helen F. M. Leary has written an article, "Certification of > Genealogists: A Consumers Report". Ms. Leary outlines the certification > requirements and the categories. > > One can check the NGS on-line site and read about the courses offered and > the fees attached thereto. Also the above cited issue of the quarterly > may be available for purchase through their on-line site. > > The address for the Board for Certification of Genealogists is P.O. Box > 5816, Falmouth,VA 22403-5815. Ms. Leary served as president at the time of > writing the above referenced article. > > I am not sure but the Family History Center may also offer courses of > study in preparation for the testing and certification. > > The BGC will take legal action against persons using designations > fraudulently. > One must retest every five years to ensure skills are updated and their > work is of quality in order to maintain their certification. > > The BGC does not offer courses but is an independent accrediting > organization. > > Tree Mother > > > > > "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." > Hercule Poirot > > http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com > > "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will > eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne > for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." > --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Reed" <DaveReed@midmaine.com> > To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:25 AM > Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research > > >>I have to ask...what is a "Certified Genealogist"? And how does one >>become >> one, and what does it mean? >> >> -David >> >> >> >> >> >> -----snip----- >> I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not >> have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified >> genealogist >> one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. >> [Me >] >> Tree Mother >> She lives a long way from Mississippi. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for >> her." >> Hercule Poirot >> >> http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com >> >> "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will >> eternally >> prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while >> by >> violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." >> --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "qvarizona" <qvarizona@yahoo.com> >> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR >> >> >>> Terri, >>> >>> I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info >>> about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out >>> some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: >>> >>> Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership >>> Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local >>> chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September >>> thru >>> May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. >>> >>> Your reference number is: xxxxxxx >>> >>> Thank you for your interest, >>> Membership Information Department, NSDAR >>> ProspectiveMembers@dar.org >>> >>> Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State Membership >>> Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her >>> job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days >>> later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her >>> job, >> >>> she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my >>> questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify >>> what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and >>> signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told >>> no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. >>> >>> I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I >>> know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. >>> In >>> my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more >>> than >>> enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an >>> undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying >>> to >>> decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent >>> marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so >>> many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, >>> teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR >>> "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves >>> my >>> research? >>> >>> Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and >>> spouse-- >> >>> state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they were >>> available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land >>> records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted >>> if >>> it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you >>> can >> >>> check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Joanne >>> >>> >>> Terri <taire@webtv.net> wrote: >>> >>> Joanne - >>> >>> I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone >>> to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? >>> >>> Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri >>> >>> List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: >>> Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information >>> here..... >>> >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT >> ION >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most >>> helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! 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David-- Don't feel badly, many people do not have any idea of what "certified genealogist --C.G.-- means, or why it may be of any importance. I'm sorry I even mentioned it, and sorrier still, that the word "certified" makes some people sad. Below are some links that will explain what the term means. I'm tempted to offer an explanation of why certification can be of importance, but will refrain; I've already caused enough of an uproar... and that was NOT my intention. --Joanne Definitions of Accredited, Certified, Professional genealogists, etc. http://genealogy.about.com/library/tips/blprofessional.htm Board for certification of genealogists- Mission: To foster public confidence in genealogy as a respected branch of history by promoting an attainable, uniform standard of competence and ethics among genealogical practitioners; and by publicly recognizing persons who meet that standard. http://www.bcgcertification.org/certification/index.html More information about certified genealogist organizations: http://www.apgen.org/resources/index.html David Reed <DaveReed@midmaine.com> wrote: What did I say to make you so sad? I had just never heard the term "Certified Genealogist" before, and wondered, is there really a Certification of Genealogy? And if so, what is it, and what is involved in becoming "Certified"? I'm sorry, didn't mean to make you sad. -David -----Original Message----- From: Karen Sullivan [mailto:ksullivan@hvc.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:49 AM To: DaveReed@midmaine.com; american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research I'm third generation DAR, am a chapter regent, have volunteered to help with applications, databases, etc. The DAR does not have a "certified genealogist" position, so I don't know where this is coming from. We have volunteer genealogists at chapter, state, and national levels, but we're not arrogant about it. We are always willing to help, no matter what level of expertise or experience an applicant may have. This attitude makes me so sad. Karen Sullivan Regent, Quassaick Chapter, NY -----Original Message----- From: american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Reed Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:26 AM To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR and research I have to ask...what is a "Certified Genealogist"? And how does one become one, and what does it mean? -David -----snip----- I don't understand how anyone can claim to be teaching genealogy and not have their own family documents at hand. If one is a certified genealogist one must have documented at least 5 generations of a family line. [Me >] Tree Mother She lives a long way from Mississippi. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 ----- Original Message ----- From: "qvarizona" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] DAR > Terri, > > I had sent a query to DAR re. a RWV, and with the response, was info > about joining DAR. I think I just clicked on a link and then filled out > some online form. Here's part of the email I got back: > > Your information is being added to our database. The State Membership > Chairman in your state is also being contacted. She will notify a local > chapter, who will contact you. Chapters meet once a month, September thru > May, so please allow up to two months for chapter contact. > > Your reference number is: xxxxxxx > > Thank you for your interest, > Membership Information Department, NSDAR ProspectiveMembers@dar.org > > Within a very short time, I got an email from the DAR State > Membership > Chairperson for Arizona, who sent a lovely letter explaining it was her > job to answer any questions and to find me a DAR chapter. A few days > later, I was contacted by a woman from the Chapter closest to me. Her job, > she said, was to sent me the membership application and answers all my > questions. NOTE: She does NOT do my research for me, but does clarify > what is needed, e.g. I had hoped my dad's birth certificate naming and > signed by his mother would suffice for her "birth" record, but was told > no. I should try to find her certificate and her marriage certificate. > > I have still not joined, nor made up my mind if I want to. As far as I > know, one can join with or without a completed/accepted application. In > my own case, the problems are not with my RWV ancestor --I have more > than > enough documentation to show his involvement in the Revolution, and an > undisputable paper trail connecting him to my grandmother-- but trying to > decide if I want to spend the time and $$$ to get all the more recent > marriage, birth, death, etc. copies I need to send for. . . .Alas, so > many ancestors, so many genealogy projects --I'm do volunteer research, > teach genealogy, continue to do my own research etc.-- and what does DAR > "acceptance" of my ancestor and me really mean? That someone approves my > research? > > Documentation required by DAR are --for BOTH the direct line and > spouse-- > state certificates of birth, marriage and death as far back as they > were > available in the appropriate state, census, obituaries, wills, land > records - just to name a few. Family genealogy books are only accepted if > it is well documented AND if the book is at the DAR Library in DC (you can > check their on-line catalogue at www.dar.org). > > Hope this helps. > > Joanne > > > Terri wrote: > > Joanne - > > I'm VERY interested in your email about DAR Chapters supplying someone > to help a person. How does one go about checking into this? > > Thank You and Keep Well all -- Terri > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > We have archives! 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There are 4 Specht/Speck/Spect names listed in the DAR Patriot Index so the answer would be yes. The names listed as having served in the Revolutionary War are Adam, Christian, John Conrad, and Michael. All were born and served and died in PA except John Conrad who was born in Germany and served and died in MD. Tom Montague in VA -----Original Message----- From: american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:american-revolution-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norris, Gary Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:21 AM To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Speck or Specht Has anyone ever joined the D.A.R. with Speck or Specht as the surnames? Any help would be appreciated. Gary in Kentucky List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUT ION ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message