To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN Camp near German Town, August 9, 1777.     Sir: You will march to morrow morning the Corps under your Command for Maidenhead in the State of Jersey and there halt till you receive further Orders. You will take every possible care in your power, as well in your march, as during your stay at that place, to restrain every Species of licentiousness in the Soldiery and to prevent them doing the least injury to the Inhabitants or their property, as nothing can be more disserviceable to our cause, or more unworthy the character we possess, to say nothing of the injustice of the measure. I am etc.68 [Note:The draft is in the writing of Robert Hanson Harrison. The letter sent, which is in the New York Public Library, is also in Harrison's writing, and varies from the above in capitalization. To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN Camp at the Cross Roads, Bucks County, Sunday, 10 o'clock P.M., August 10, 1777.     Sir: I have just recd an Express from Philada informing me that a large Fleet was seen off Sinepuxent Inlet on the 7th inst. You are therefore desired to halt wherever this finds you, and wait till we hear further of this matter. Let me know by Return of the Express where you are, that I may know how to direct for when I have occasion to send you Orders. I am, etc.     P.S. By ordering you to halt where this shall find you, I mean upon the most convenient ground near the place.78 [Note:The text is from the Magazine of American History , vol. 7, P. 137. ] To ]

Washington, George, 1732-1799. The writings of George Washington from the original manuscript sources Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library The entire work To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN 8 Miles East of Morris Town, July 26, 1777. Sir: If this letter comes to hand before you have passed the Delaware, you are to halt at Trenton and there remain till further orders, unless you should receive such information, as you deem authentic, of the arrival of the Enemy's Fleet within the Capes of Delaware. If you should have passed the River, when this reaches you, you will then proceed to Bristol and there halt till further orders; Unless you should obtain satisfactory intelligence of the Enemy's arrival as above, in which case you will march with the utmost expedition to Philadelphia and take orders from the Commanding Officer there as before directed. I am etc. 29 The draft is in the writing of Robert Hanson Harrison.

Washington, George, 1732-1799. The writings of George Washington from the original manuscript sources Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library The entire work To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN Camp at Ramapough, July 24, 1777. Sir: The Enemy's Fleet having left Sandy Hook and gone to Sea, you are immediately on receipt of this, to march with the Corps under your Command to the City of Philadelphia and there receive orders from the commanding officer. You will proceed as Expeditiously as you can by the Shortest route. You will take no heavy baggage with you, but leave it to follow with an Officer and a proper Guard. I am etc. 9 The copy is in the writing of George Lewis. The same letter was sent to Col. Theodorick Bland, who was stationed at Bound Brook, and this original, in the writing of Robert Hanson Harrison, is in the New York Public Library.

Washington, George, 1732-1799. The writings of George Washington from the original manuscript sources Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library The entire work To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN Head Quarters, Clove, July 23, 1777. Sir: While you are lying at Hackinsack you may be subject to a surprise by a party of the enemy from Fort Washington except you keep your Guard advanced to Hackinsack Ferry and the Bridge above. Patrolling Parties may safely lay by day at Fort Lee, from whence they may observe what is doing at Fort Washington, or down the River toward New York. When you move it will probably be at a very short warning, you are therefore to hold your Corps in readiness to march in an Hour after you receive Notice either by Night or day. I am etc. P.S. Whenever you receive any material intelligence transmit it immediately to me by Express. 1 In private hands. It was sold at auction in 1931.

Note: The topic of Saratoga has come up and Frank Goodway has mentioned Col Daniel Morgan's Corp of Frontier Rifles and their relationship to General Washintton. I would like to send a few of Gen Washington's order to Morgan to give those who are not familiar with that unit some background. Anyone not interested please delete because some of the information is several pages long. George Patrick Washington, George, 1732-1799. The writings of George Washington from the original manuscript sources Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library The entire work *To COLONEL DANIEL MORGAN Head Quarters, Middle Brook, June 13, 1777. Sir: The Corps of Rangers newly formed, and under your Command, are to be considered as a body of light Infantry and are to Act as such; for whh. reason they will be exempted from the common duties of the Line. At present, you are to take Post at Van Veghten Bridge and watch, with very small Scouting Parties (to avoid fatiegueing your Men too much, under the prest. appearance of things) the Enemys left Flank, and particularly the Roads leading from Brunswick towards Millstone, Princeton &ca. In case of any Movement of the Enemy you are Instantly to fall upon their Flanks and gall them as much as possible, taking especial care not to be surrounded, or have your retreat to the Army cut off. I have sent for Spears, which I expect shortly to receive and deliver you, as a defence against Horse; till you are furnished with these, take care not to be caught in such a Situation as to give them any advantage over you. It occurs to me that if you were to dress a Company or two of true Woods Men in the right Indian Style and let them make the Attack accompanied with screaming and yelling as the Indians do, it would have very good consequences especially if as little as possible was said, or known of the matter beforehand. 43 The letter sent is in the writing of Tench Tilghman and is in the New York Public Library. It lacks the last paragraph, as above.

Kent, My primary source for Massachusetts soldiers comes from the 17 volume set of "Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors in the Revolutionary War." Isaac Pooler's information is listed below: Name: Pooler, Isaac, South Hadley. Source Info: Volume 12 page 553 Information: Pooler, Isaac, South Hadley.Private, Capt. Josiah Smith's co., Col. Josiah Whitney's regt.; enlisted May 25, 1776, 4 days preceding march; service to [p.553] Aug. 1, 1776, 2 mos. 6 days; company raised for defence of town and harbor of Boston; also, list of men raised to serve in the Continental Army from Capt. Smith's co., 4th Hampshire Co. regt., as returned by Lieut. Col. R. Woodbridge, dated May 28, 1777; engaged for town of South Hadley; joined Capt. Shay's co., Col. Putnam's regt.; also, return of men raised to serve in the Continental Army from Capt. Moses Montague's co., Col. Porter's regt., dated June 30, 1778; residence, South Hadley; engaged for town of South Hadley; term, 3 years or during war; also, Private, Capt. McFarland's corps of invalids; Continental Army pay accounts for service from Jan. 1, 1780, to Jan. 29, 1780; reported transferred from Col. Putnam's regt.; also reported discharged. There is nothing there to indicate his involvement with the Battles of Saratoga, in Sept. and Oct. 1777. On the face of it, it appears he was transferred from Col. Porter's 4th Hampshire Co. Militia regt. to Col. Putnam's 5th Massachusetts Continental Line regt. 28 May 1777 and was still in the regiment 30 Jun 1778. Col. Putnam's regt. was at Saratoga, although I can't find a Capt. Shay. There could be a number of variations to the Captain's name. What documentation do you have (pension, etc.) that specifies he was at Saratoga? Frank Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:14:40 -0600 From: Kent Elam <kae75@mchsi.com> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Battle of Saratoga To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061217130752.021201c0@mchsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Frank, Please excuse my entering into an ongoing discussion. I checked out your table at the below mentioned web address and I did not fine my patriot ancestor listed. My ancestor, Isaac Pooler, served with the 5th Massachusetts under Col. Rufus Putnam. In his pension application he states that he served at the tent of General Gates and witnessed the surrender of General Burgoyne. I would enjoy hearing from you and any comments you have on this topic. I would be happy to share any documents I have concerning Isaac. Regards, Kent

Charles, Sorry, not in Fernow's book, which is "New York in the Revolution." I checked my reference for Austin Godsey and it is: "National Archives; M881 series of compiled payroll records of soldiers who served in the American army during the Revolutionary War." This Austin Godsey was part of Col. Daniel Morgan's corp. of sharpshooters that he recruited from Virginia and Pennsylvania troops at the request of General Washington. They performed admirably at Saratoga, to the extent that the Continental Congress awarded each of them an extra month's pay. Morgan went on to achieve further fame in the Carolinas, but not necessarily with the same group. I believe they pretty much went back to their respective Virginia and Pennsylvania units during the stay at Valley Forge. Hope this is helpful. Frank Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:48:15 -0500 From: <chasafuller@charter.net> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Look-Up Please To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801c72203$87decb80$962c9f18@fuller1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Frank, My ggg grandfather,Pvt. Austin Godsey is listed in the Saratoga site you mentioned. Does the Fernow book have any additional information about him? Thanks Charles A. Fuller

For Charles: I have found my g Uncle in the civil war. He fought in the battle at Antietam. Co H, 23rd NY Infantry. In Ed Raus book, Banners South, it tells that he was shot in the thigh and arm and died because of the amputation of his arm. Two others from his Co also were wounded but recovered. I would like to know where he was buried. He was Edmund O. Campbell. Is there any mention of him in Fernow's book? Records say he died in Sharpsburg so it could be that he was buried there. I have sent for his pension records but you know how slow they are in sending the information. Jean Bunch----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Goodway" <fgdwy@juno.com> To: <chasafuller@charter.net>; <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Austin Godsey > Charles, > Sorry, not in Fernow's book, which is "New York in the Revolution." I > checked my reference for Austin Godsey and it is: "National Archives; > M881 series of compiled payroll records of soldiers who served in the > American army during the Revolutionary War." > > This Austin Godsey was part of Col. Daniel Morgan's corp. of > sharpshooters that he recruited from Virginia and Pennsylvania troops at > the request of General Washington. They performed admirably at Saratoga, > to the extent that the Continental Congress awarded each of them an extra > month's pay. Morgan went on to achieve further fame in the Carolinas, > but not necessarily with the same group. I believe they pretty much went > back to their respective Virginia and Pennsylvania units during the stay > at Valley Forge. > > Hope this is helpful. > Frank > > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:48:15 -0500 > From: <chasafuller@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Look-Up Please > To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c72203$87decb80$962c9f18@fuller1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Frank, > > My ggg grandfather,Pvt. Austin Godsey is listed in the Saratoga site you > mentioned. Does the Fernow book have any additional information about > him? > > Thanks > Charles A. Fuller > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 12/15/2006 > >

Frank, Please excuse my entering into an ongoing discussion. I checked out your table at the below mentioned web address and I did not fine my patriot ancestor listed. My ancestor, Isaac Pooler, served with the 5th Massachusetts under Col. Rufus Putnam. In his pension application he states that he served at the tent of General Gates and witnessed the surrender of General Burgoyne. I would enjoy hearing from you and any comments you have on this topic. I would be happy to share any documents I have concerning Isaac. Regards, Kent At 03:00 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote: >Mike, >You might want to check out the state library at Albany; I would guess >they might have it. >It sounds like something I would like to see. Eric Schnitzer, >ranger/historian at the Saratoga National Park has developed a table of >organization for each of the battles, at the regimental level. >I have a data base on the 'net, listing participants in alphabetic order >at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm#Top > >I'm also working on a table of organization, down to the Privates, but >I'm only up to the R's. Mine is, at this point, alphabetic by Colonel or >equivalent head of a unit. Any particular unit you're looking for? > >Good luck, >Frank > >Hello, >would anyone have access to the article: >Mills, Borden H. "Troop units at the Battle of Saratoga" Quarterly >Journal of the New York State Historical Association, 9 (April 1928), pp. >136-158 or know the best way to get a hold of it. I am not sure if >something like that would be available on ILL. > Thanks! > Regards, Mike > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: >Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > >------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank, My ggg grandfather,Pvt. Austin Godsey is listed in the Saratoga site you mentioned. Does the Fernow book have any additional information about him? Thanks Charles A. Fuller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Goodway" <fgdwy@juno.com> To: <monteleblanc@sbcglobal.net>; <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Look-Up Please > Monte, > I'm getting an education; I had never heard of Moses Hazen's 2nd > Canadian. I'm familiar with Col. James Livingston's regt., popularly > called the 1st Canadian regt.; they were at the battles of Saratoga, > which is my project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm > > Page 248 of Fernow's book has a small list of persons in Hazen's Second > Canadian, but no White or LeBlanc. Page 239 lists a Basil Nideau, > "priv., enlisted '75 near Montreal, enl'd for the war at Albany in Capt. > Oliver, [co,] Col. M. Hazen's [regt.]." He was an interpreter for > General DeLongchamps (with whom I'm also not familiar) > > There are no entries for LeBlanc or Richard White, but a number for > Stephen White (I would guess a fairly common name). > > Page 211 lists Pvt. Stephen White, Capt John Davis's Co., Col. Henry > Livingston's 4th N.Y. regt. It states he enlisted 21 Nov '76, died 13 > Apr '77. > > Page 550 lists Pvt. Stephen White of the 2nd Ulster County Regt., Killed > in action on 24 Dec. 1778. > > Page 258 lists a Capt. Stephen White in a militia commanded by Lt. Col. > Marinus Willet, apparently in 1781. > > Page 271 lists Capt. Stephen White, commanding the 4th company in Col. > Jacobus VanSchoonhoven's 12th Albany Militia from Halfmoon and Ballston > Districts. > > Finally, under casualties, on page 544 lists Capt. Stephen White, Lt. Col > Willet's regt., taken prisoner near Johnstown, Oct. 26, 1781; exchanged > Fall of 1782. > > Nothing in particular looks like your ancestor. > Good luck with your search, > Frank > > > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:39:24 -0800 Monte LeBlanc > <monteleblanc@sbcglobal.net> writes: >> Sorry for the off list message as I am never current with the list >> being >> an over the road truck driver without internet access daily >> >> In a post to the American-Revolution list you said you had some >> sources >> on NY. >> >> I have an ancestor who was listed as drawing rations and quarters at >> >> Albany NY in 1785 as a Quebec-Acadian Canadian refugee who fought >> for >> the Colonist side. He is listed as a PVT having joined in 1776. I >> have >> allways assumed that he was a member of Moses Hazen's 2nd Canadian >> Regiment recruited out of Quebec, but have never found anything. >> >> Would any of your sources list a Etienne LeBlanc (AKA Stephen White >> or >> Richard White) being part of the NY soldiers? >> >> Sincerely, Monte LeBlanc >> >> > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doris, I have some information you need on your RW ancester, William Wood. Please email me privately off line if you're still looking for this information. Ester ekeads@classicnet.net

Mike, You might want to check out the state library at Albany; I would guess they might have it. It sounds like something I would like to see. Eric Schnitzer, ranger/historian at the Saratoga National Park has developed a table of organization for each of the battles, at the regimental level. I have a data base on the 'net, listing participants in alphabetic order at http://www.rootswebcom/~nysarato/sarapk.htm I'm also working on a table of organization, down to the Privates, but I'm only up to the R's. Mine is, at this point, alphabetic by Colonel or equivalent head of a unit. Any particular unit you're looking for? Good luck, Frank Hello, would anyone have access to the article: Mills, Borden H. "Troop units at the Battle of Saratoga" Quarterly Journal of the New York State Historical Association, 9 (April 1928), pp. 136-158 or know the best way to get a hold of it. I am not sure if something like that would be available on ILL. Thanks! Regards, Mike

Donald, Sorry, no Isaac Springer in Fernow's book. Not sure what you mean by the unit splitting up. The 4th NY regt. fought at Saratoga under Col. Henry Livingston in the Fall of 1777. I have a project on the 'net covering those battles but no Isaac Springer. Good luck. Frank Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:29:59 -0500 From: "Donald L. Springer" <springerdl@acsworld.com> Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] NY Rev War militia To: american-revolution@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <457B1CC7.30904@acsworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi Frank, My name is Donald L. Springer. I have chased my ancestors back to the NY 4th Regiment Continental Line. I subscribe to these lists on the of chance that I can find documentation much the same as described in Mike's query. Any help would be appreciated. The ancestors, two of them, both served in the same unit. The unit only lasted about one year, 1775 to 1776 and then was split up into other units. I have found them on the Mohawk Valley site in the above unit. The names are Isaac Springer as a Lt. and Isaac Springer, his son, as a private. Any documentation would surely help. Thanking you in advance, DLS Frank Goodway wrote: >Mike, >I am responsible for the site to which you were referred: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm >Unfortunately, I've got the same problem as you; the records of NY >militia were lost in a fire. I do have some militia listed, obtained >from other sources. I also have Berthold Fernow's book, " New York in >the Revolution" and would be willing to do a lookup for you, if you send >me the names that you have. >Frank

Thanks so much; that will be a big help. Pat R. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PmpGenie@aol.com> To: <american-revolution@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] North Carolina Patriot records > > In a message dated 12/14/2006 10:52:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > pareeser@insightbb.com writes: > > What types of records are there for non-military patriotic > efforts -- like oaths of allegiance, furnishing supplies, housing, food? > I > haven't really seen any records like that for North Carolina, > > > There is a large set of books called State Records of North Carolina (or > something like that), which contain Oaths of Alliengance, etc. > > Phyllis > > List Mom for the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Monte, I'm getting an education; I had never heard of Moses Hazen's 2nd Canadian. I'm familiar with Col. James Livingston's regt., popularly called the 1st Canadian regt.; they were at the battles of Saratoga, which is my project at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm Page 248 of Fernow's book has a small list of persons in Hazen's Second Canadian, but no White or LeBlanc. Page 239 lists a Basil Nideau, "priv., enlisted '75 near Montreal, enl'd for the war at Albany in Capt. Oliver, [co,] Col. M. Hazen's [regt.]." He was an interpreter for General DeLongchamps (with whom I'm also not familiar) There are no entries for LeBlanc or Richard White, but a number for Stephen White (I would guess a fairly common name). Page 211 lists Pvt. Stephen White, Capt John Davis's Co., Col. Henry Livingston's 4th N.Y. regt. It states he enlisted 21 Nov '76, died 13 Apr '77. Page 550 lists Pvt. Stephen White of the 2nd Ulster County Regt., Killed in action on 24 Dec. 1778. Page 258 lists a Capt. Stephen White in a militia commanded by Lt. Col. Marinus Willet, apparently in 1781. Page 271 lists Capt. Stephen White, commanding the 4th company in Col. Jacobus VanSchoonhoven's 12th Albany Militia from Halfmoon and Ballston Districts. Finally, under casualties, on page 544 lists Capt. Stephen White, Lt. Col Willet's regt., taken prisoner near Johnstown, Oct. 26, 1781; exchanged Fall of 1782. Nothing in particular looks like your ancestor. Good luck with your search, Frank On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:39:24 -0800 Monte LeBlanc <monteleblanc@sbcglobal.net> writes: > Sorry for the off list message as I am never current with the list > being > an over the road truck driver without internet access daily > > In a post to the American-Revolution list you said you had some > sources > on NY. > > I have an ancestor who was listed as drawing rations and quarters at > > Albany NY in 1785 as a Quebec-Acadian Canadian refugee who fought > for > the Colonist side. He is listed as a PVT having joined in 1776. I > have > allways assumed that he was a member of Moses Hazen's 2nd Canadian > Regiment recruited out of Quebec, but have never found anything. > > Would any of your sources list a Etienne LeBlanc (AKA Stephen White > or > Richard White) being part of the NY soldiers? > > Sincerely, Monte LeBlanc > >

In a message dated 12/14/2006 10:52:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pareeser@insightbb.com writes: What types of records are there for non-military patriotic efforts -- like oaths of allegiance, furnishing supplies, housing, food? I haven't really seen any records like that for North Carolina, There is a large set of books called State Records of North Carolina (or something like that), which contain Oaths of Alliengance, etc. Phyllis

Mike, Fairly common last name, but let me give you what's in Fernow's work: There's a Pvt. George Miller, in Capt. Jonathan Titus' co., Col. Henry Livingston's 4th NY Continental line regt.; served from 10 Jul 1780 to 15 Dec 1780. There's a Pvt. George Miller, in Capt. John Sandford's co., Col. William Malcom's regt.; "one of the 16 regts. in the Cont'l Service, officered by Gen'l Wash'n, and not belonging to the line of any particular State, but credited to N.Y." In addition Miller's listing is, "1st m. Oct. 77. O, M R" - whatever that means. There's a Pvt. George Miller, in Capt. Samuel Kerseley' co., also Malcom's regt., with the exact same information as the one above. There's a Pvt James Miller, in Capt. Paul Neven (Nevins) co., also Malcom's regt. His listing states, "Aug. 15, '77; war, never joined." There's a Pvt. James Miller, of the 2nd Ulster County regiment. His listing is, "Private, Col. Thomas, June 10, 1779." There's a 1st. Lieut. James Miller, Capt. Charles Graham's 2nd. co., Col. Phillip Van Cortland's 2nd NY Battalion. At the beginning of this listing it states, "A list of the Officers of Four Battalions to be raised in the State of New York, arranged by a Committee of Convention of the said State, November 21st, 1776." I think these were subsequently regiments. There's a Lieut. James Miller, in Capt. Benjamin Pelton's co., Col. Phillip Van Cortlandt's 2nd N. Y. regt. His listing says, "Lieut., Nov. 21, '76; resigned Apr. 7, 1778, M R 1st Lt. 3d co., Mil. Com." There's a 1st Lieut. James Miller, Capt. Charles Graham's co., Col. Phillip Van Cortlandt's 2nd N. Y. regt. His listing says' "Mil. Arrt. See 2d Co." Finally (no Millars), theres a 1st. Lieut. James Miller, Capt. Capt. Richard Sacket's Grenadier Co., Col. Thomas Thomas's "Second Middle Regiment." That's it! you'll have to sort it out for yourself; I don't know what the abbreviations above signify, nor do I have any information as to actions of the units or the "Land Bounty Rights." Good luck, Frank On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:20:04 -0500 "Michael McAlonie" <mmcalonie@msn.com> writes: Thank you Frank, The men were my 4th and 5th great grandfathers: James Miller (1756-1834) and his father George Miller (1731-1789). George had a brother John Miller (1739-1811) who was at one point a Lt. in Col. Van Woert's 16th Albany County militia. They may also be spelled Millar. All from the Cambridge/ Easton area. Would I be short sighted to assume the scope of their involvement would have been limited to minor action in/ on the fringes of the Battle Of Bennington? George Miller is not listed in the 16th roster, probably because he was older than 45, but he has a newer veterans marker that says "Continental Line", but I can not find any indication of his service. Tough names. These are Scottish Millers. I have seen some men buried with these men who were listed as privates in the 16th, and also noted as listed in the Land Bounty Rights section of New York in the Rev as Colony and State. What is that section all about? Thanks for looking Frank, regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Goodway To: mmcalonie@msn.com ; american-revolution@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: NY Rev War militia Mike, I am responsible for the site to which you were referred: http://www.rootswebcom/~nysarato/sarapk.htm Unfortunately, I've got the same problem as you; the records of NY militia were lost in a fire. I do have some militia listed, obtained from other sources. I also have Berthold Fernow's book, " New York in the Revolution" and would be willing to do a lookup for you, if you send me the names that you have. Frank

Mike, This link should take you to information about your inquiry. Although Frank Goodway may be reading this list and may respond to you individually, you may want to contact him by E-mail. You can send a message to him at the link near the bottom of this page. Look around at the various parts of this website if you haven't done so. There is a link to the Saratoga co., NY Genweb and County Genealogical Society, Too. Lots of places to ask questions of very knowledgable folks. George The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm#Top Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

Hello, would anyone have access to the article: Mills, Borden H. "Troop units at the Battle of Saratoga" Quarterly Journal of the New York State Historical Association, 9 (April 1928), pp. 136-158 or know the best way to get a hold of it. I am not sure if something like that would be available on ILL. Thanks! Regards, Mike

Thanks, Jackie. What types of records are there for non-military patriotic efforts -- like oaths of allegiance, furnishing supplies, housing, food? I haven't really seen any records like that for North Carolina, although there seem to be such for Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, so there must be some for NC too. I just don't know where to look for them. I have seen Bartholomew Grogan's name listed as having migrated from Ireland and perhaps serving with the British Army, but deserting and joining the patriots. The entry I saw on Ancestry.com said he received Lord Granville Grants in 1760, 1796, 1803 and 1804, and that he was a co-founder of Groganville in Rockingham, NC. This information seems to have come from a newspaper column but it is not documented, other than to say it comes from Rockingham County records, census records and records of early researchers. Did someone dream up the bit about deserting and joining the patriots? What were the Lord Granville grants? Thanks. Pat > Rev War Pension Applications > > Surname Given Name State Service > GROGEN JOHN NY > GROGEN PATRICK VA > > These are the only two by spelling - Grogan/Grogen > > Jackie